Premiership Investments

[Gryffyn]

Much as it pains me, a near sure-fire investment now would be putting the house on the &rse to win the P'ship. With less tyhan 10 games gone they look unstopable. After my beloved Chelsea's soft capitulation this weekend, it's going to be a minor miracle if the Wenger-boys don't retain the trophy :-(

[Gryffyn]

On a more businessy note, buying shares in Man U against a possible Glaze take over might be an option.

[Gryffyn]

Sorry, that should be Glazer as in...

Fan anger as Glazer increases stake


Manchester United supporters' groups have reacted with dismay to the news that US tycoon Malcolm Glazer has increased his shareholding in the club.
Fans who railed against the prospect of Glazer taking a controlling interest in United were lifted on Thursday when it emerged his plans for an outright takeover had collapsed as Manchester United's majority shareholders John Magnier and JP McManus opted not to continue discussions over the sale of their 28.9% stake.


However, the owner of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers NFL franchise has now swept up another 15.4million shares at a cost of £45million, taking his overall holding to 25.3%.

Andy Walsh, the secretary of the Independent Manchester United Supporters Association, remains highly dubious of Glazer's motives and said: 'Malcolm Glazer has never been to Manchester and he is not wanted.

'We were told his attempt to buy the club had fallen but clearly this is an attempt to outmuscle Cubic Expression (Magnier and McManus' holding company).

'We can only speculate about his motives but we don't believe any of them will be of benefit, not just to our football club, but to football as a whole.

'If he got his way, individual TV deals and a European Super League would be even closer to being realised and we will not allow that to happen.'

It is not yet known whether Glazer bought his new shares from some of the big City institutions or Scottish mining entrepreneur Harry Dobson, whose 6.5% stake roughly equates to Glazer's purchase, but either way the deal sent the share price rocketing by eight percent to £2.85, the average purchase price of Friday's investment.

Glazer is hopeful that the supporters who have been so fierce in their opposition to his interest will see his latest move as an indication that he views United as a long-term investment and will help deflect some of their criticism.

Glazer is clearly intent on hanging around, although there is no clear indication as to his next likely move.

One theory is that he will ask for board representation, something Cubic have opted against pursuing in the past, thereby increasing his own influence at Old Trafford and forcing the Irish duo to either follow suit, accept a reduced role, or sell out.

Another suggestion doing the rounds is that Glazer will try to lever more profits out of the Red Devils by attempting to negotiate separate television deals, a move chief executive David Gill has always claimed to be counter-productive as it would increase revenues in the short term but wreck the already loose notion of competition within the Premier League.

In their own statement to the Stock Exchange yesterday, United indicated they would take the fans' fears on board should any official offer for the club be received.

'The Board can assure shareholders in the Company and fans of the club that, should any proposal be made in the future, the Board will take into account all relevant considerations including the potential financial terms, possible financial structure and any impact these considerations may have on the future operation of the football club,' the statement read pointedly.

With Glazer still officially `considering his options', United remain in an Offer Period and could do so indefinitely unless the American clarifies his position.

It leaves the plans of former Football League chairman Keith Harris in disarray.

Harris was apparently on the verge of putting forward his own proposals, which include a combination of fresh investment and more power to the fans.

However, in Shareholders United and IMUSA circles, Harris is not seen as the supporters' champion he has been painted in other quarters and many have not forgotten the part he played in advising BSkyB about their own ultimately unsuccessful bid for the club four years ago.

[marinesalvor]

rode Man U shares from 88p to 183p a couple of years ago - was great fun... sold after the McManus/Magnier move to invest elsewhere

[marinesalvor]

and lets not forget a doubling of money on NUFC - Gryf did you ever see the website soccerinvestor.com?? was superb but I think its died now

[Gryffyn]

I did look at it for a while. New a chap with Milwall shares who was very happy they made UEFA albeit very briefly.

Good return on NUFC! Probably the most they will do for you ;)

good return on my Fantasy team this week too :-) Chelsea should never have let Jimmy go.

[marinesalvor]

my captain didnt play!!! Okocha - plus sylvestre - bit tough for me

[marinesalvor]

1 is better than zero!!!

[Gryffyn]

Oh so true. Another 6 points from Yakuba sticking one past Spurs so a very good week indeed.

[marinesalvor]

I had a crap week again - and it seems most others in the world had a superb one - sigh

[Gryffyn]

Dunno, most others in our league don't seem to have faired much better than you. Hopefully not too many intnls between now and xmas.

[Gryffyn]

Looking like 2-0 to the Chelsea! Might distract from cokehead Mutu stories. Seems we can only score goals in C'league and P'ship.

[marinesalvor]

thought you would be happy with that!! as long as you beat ****nal later on!

[Gryffyn]

In the final would be nice.

What's with UEFA cup this year - new format? You guys now go into group play or something?

[marinesalvor]

seems weird huh - I know they have to face Sporting Lisbon v early - but am currently v focussed on baseball - my other love! Yankees have slipped to 3-3 in playoffs and its sudden death today

[Gryffyn]

Only seen a few baseball games live. bluejays when I was doing some work in toronto. very impressed with the setup and entertainment at venue etc. 150 or so games a year per team means you can get into it.

[Capitalist]

Is this like betting on horses?? Can I make money out of it? I have a horse running this weekend, a Pentire- its Dam out of Sir Tristram. I won't tell you its' name though, that might reduce the odds :D:D:D

[marinesalvor]

Cappy - I hear the Sunline foal will be for sale soon - any bets on its price?

[Gryffyn]

Damned TAB eh Cap?

Good money to be made out of betting on ****nal cap but it's against my principles ;)

Do you ever yell win or you're cat-food at your nag?

[Capitalist]

I didn't think they were going to sell the Sunline foal, but if they do I would expect about $2 million!

The horse has won b4, but it's just a hobby....the trainers are a lot like brokers I'm afraid, they tell you all sorts of garbage about how good your horse is. This guy said he would put it in The Oaks and it never got anywhere close. But it's all good fun. Won't make you rich though [:p];)

[winner69]

Cap - must be a good story behind Assorted Antipodeans?

Going to Otaki then or channel 14?

I have an interest in 2 at Alexandra Park tomorrow night

[Capitalist]

Busted!! Going to channel 14.

[winner69]

Good luck - I'll cheer it on for you ... always liked the Grays

Watch the horse named after a drug cheat at the trots tomorrow night

[winner69]

Cap - watch the price on that nag of yours

Aunty Madge and the boys down at the Crownie Pub are now in the know ... and ramping it hard

Probably laying off on betfair

[Capitalist]

quote:Originally posted by winner69

Good luck - I'll cheer it on for you ... always liked the Grays

Watch the horse named after a drug cheat at the trots tomorrow night


Will do Winner ;) Ours isn't picked so that is a good sign. Pray for fine weather.

[marinesalvor]

was there the day zabeel/diamond lover foal yearling went over 3m - presume sunny would rate more???

[Capitalist]

Hey Winner-- 5 more strides and she would have had it. I am so pleased. $4.10 too.Aunty Madge definitely didn't know about this one. Gray says it is one of the best horses he has had, so watch out for us in the Auckland Cup :D:D:D

[winner69]

Cap - was a great run and looks like she can only get better as the season goes on. Quite small isn't she.

It would be really exciting at Ellerslie on Cup day witha starter in the big race

Our blsck fella ran a good race for 3rd last night - might be aimed at the Auckland Cup with sulkies

[Capitalist]

Well done- are we winnahs or not ;)

[Gryffyn]

And now for words not previously heard this year four nil to the Chelsea :-)

[Gryffyn]

4-1 to the Chelsea :-)

Hey MS - looking like I'll be top manager of the month for our little league. Good result this week with a couple of players still to have a run.

[marinesalvor]

I had Lampard as captain - sadly noone else in the team stepped up!! am in mid table - I guess its better than being last!

[Gryffyn]

Indeed! NU taken by Sams lads - that's gotta hurt the most. some interesting teams competing for 3 and 4!

got two NC players playing tomorrow - hopefully a leaky Man c defense will help.

i have always presumed you are the NO****NALPLAYERS team :-)

[Gryffyn]

Lumpalard is proving to be a good choice for captain most weeks :-) only got a point two weeks ago.

[Gryffyn]

Cool! 4 outa 4 for Chelski. Through at top of group already with two to play :-)

[marinesalvor]

I did ok - 26 pts for Lampard as cap helped!

well done in Moscow - also v glad that wengers boys drew

[Gryffyn]

Rumour has it that we're showing interest in that plonker Dwyer - please no! How many midfielders / wing backs do we need?

Wenger cry-babies may yet fail to make it through :-) Certainly may only end up second.

[marinesalvor]

yep - we have been trying to dump him for ages - we want a central defender plus cash

[Gryffyn]

Huth aint bad but why oh why would we want Dwyer? Desperately need a fit goal scoring machine.

Arjen looking like the business on the wing - may have to target for fantasy transfer at this rate.

[Gryffyn]

Woohoo - 1-0 to the Chelsea and the A.rse draw with CP!!! Don't get much better :-)

I see Roman is now number two richest resident in the UK as some steel-wallah has taken over.

[Gryffyn]

MS - a bit of a black day for you old boy.

[Greyhound]

So pleased to see Chelsea supporters here.Are there any of those 'red'ones lurking about?

[floyd]

red as in man u or as in liverpool?

[Greyhound]

As in Man Yoo...

[floyd]

im liverpool, but theres always man u supporters lurking everywhere....

[Greyhound]

http://www.onlinejersey.com/chelsea-a.jpg


Lets add some colour here...:D

[Gryffyn]

Greyhound - welcome aboard. Believe it or not, this thread has the least heated discussion on this site despite being followers of a variety of clubs!

Why post the away strip?

Just watched the highlights package - so many goals this weekend.

PS - red could also include Addicks, M'boro or of course the Wenger boys.

[Greyhound]

Cheers Gryff....could also be the mighty Brechin City or by the tone of your handle,Wrexham.I actually prefer this away strip to the blue-this season anyway.

[Gryffyn]

Yeah, cynical marketing changes every year. Poor dads in families of P'ship team supporters eh- two new strips a year for the top teams.

I'm still trying to get myself a 25 - Zola shirt from the old days.

[Mingeathinaikos]

How did this thread survive the culling by site admin? Deemed NZX related because of 'investments' in the subject??

C'mon the mighty Blackburn!

[Gryffyn]

Well you can buy shares in various teams but not I guess on the NZX. Maybe the comptroller is a footy fan.

[Runswifscissors]

I think the admin reads the headings and not the threads.

[Greyhound]

http://fp.homesoffootball.f9.co.uk/4907_CHELSEA.jpg

THATS THE ADMIN IN BLACK.

[Gryffyn]

Gosh that's an old photo.

Chelsea through to the quarters of cardboard cup. Sorry MS - your bad run continues.

[Greyhound]

And the BLUES go marching on....:):):)

[Gryffyn]

Boring boring chelski??? I think not. Absolute cracker of a game. Shame spurs couldn't stop from leaking one more goal.

[Gryffyn]

Robben proving an inspired buy by Ranieri. Him and Duff on at the same time gives so much speed on both flanks on the break.

Drogba back to partner the iceman and it'll be looking very good.

[Toulouse - Luzern]

Double O2
Check out the feature photo & story
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/index?cc=3436

[Sideshow Bob]

Missed the replay on today - must have been a cracker of a match!!

C'mon the Gooners!!

[Gryffyn]

Premier highlights packapge on tonight should be good - around 39 goals for the weekend.

Poor old Toon - a draw against Man U would have been good.

[marinesalvor]

might see Chelsea take the title... anyone but the gunners

[Gryffyn]

We'll take all the support - even backhanded support - that we can get. Long way to go yet and the Gunners are a class act that will be hard to top. Not ruling man u out yet.

Thinking of buying Van Nis in the fantasy league - he's due a run of form. I note that you caught up a bit on my lads this week.

[Sideshow Bob]

Bolton 2 - Chelsea 2

Draw paying $4.00 at the TAB - easiest money have made in a long time. (Dont hold NOG or NOGOC).

Unfortunately the Gooners couldn't get past West Brom!!

[Gryffyn]

No no - very fortunate. At least we drew with a top 4 team (yes Bolton). Maybe Robson will be a boon to the baggies.

Good weekend for the fantasy team as well!

[marinesalvor]

52 so far for me - with 1 player to come... sadly Shearer injured...

toon back with a win, they need to kick in from here

[Gryffyn]

yes, I noticed that you're having a good run this month. topped our league this week with 66 - melchiot got 7 pts this morning even though the brumbie defence leaked three goals!

[Gryffyn]

was considering buying shearer - lemme know when he comes right although bellamy looked good when allowed to play in the centre.

[Gryffyn]

just watched the highlights package - goal by kluivert sublime

[Sideshow Bob]

quote: Originally posted by Gryffyn

No no - very fortunate. At least we drew with a top 4 team (yes Bolton). Maybe Robson will be a boon to the baggies.

Whaddaya mean? West Brom is a class side (if it was in the second division).

BTW Bolton is actually currently 6th!! ;)

[marinesalvor]

still think shearers goal last week vs the Scum was the best of the season - forced ball away from Brown - round 3 defenders - solo effort - poor guy has to carry the whole team

but glad to see Kluivert beginning to get to potential!

[Gryffyn]

no no no - Lampards free kick last week against Fulham! See the reverse swing on that baby.

sideshow - they were 4th until the results of the weekend. most importantly we're still no 1.

euro games this week :-)

[Sideshow Bob]

quote:Originally posted by Gryffyn

sideshow - they were 4th until the results of the weekend. most importantly we're still no 1.

That's why I said 'currently 6th'!! As i believe they were when you posted.

Sorry - just in a nit-picking mood!

SSB

[Greyhound]

http://www.asromaultras.it/tribu_chelsea_shed.jpg







The Party has started at the Bridge.

[Gryffyn]

Ah, I truly miss being at the bridge.

one man went to mow...

[Greyhound]

Is that you Gryff,the one with the blue scarf..20 up,25 to the left?..

[marinesalvor]

am still harbouring hopes of a run of non stop wins from the Toon to take the Prem... sigh

[Gryffyn]

You'd be happy with this morning's result MS.

On the fantasy front, which striker would you recommend buying for around 10 or less?

[marinesalvor]

very happy thanks Gryf - good to get a win away

I actually bought Blackstock - getting a lot of game time with Southampton - he cost basically nothing and playing next to Beattie is good for him

[Gryffyn]

well you're through now to the final 32 of uefa.

was thinking of bellamy myself or boa morte. basically I'm going to cash in reyes as he's the wrong team and form is off.

[Gryffyn]

4-0 to the Chelsea! Gosh I'm really starting to enjoy saying that a lot :-)

[Greyhound]

Isn't life just wonderful at the moment...[8D] :D :) ;)

[Gryffyn]

Truly it is (cricket notwithstanding). Most of my planets seem to be in alignmment :-)

[marinesalvor]

well done - and good for my FF team with Terry

Toon continue to be mediocre....

[Gryffyn]

It just gets better (in real life) - the A rse lose to the scousers - 5 points clear. Not good results on the fantasy front this moring though.

Chelski Chelski Chelski

[marinesalvor]

they dont seem to have tallied up the scores for the weekend... though I was generally ok in the midfield... strikers didnt fire though

[Gryffyn]

you look like you've done ok - only 2 places behind me i think :-(

[marinesalvor]

71.... with 3 pts from my strikers...

[Gryffyn]

puts you 10 behind me on the table - yikes. I cost myself some points with extra xfers due to last minute injury scares. Looking forward to the highlight package tonight on sky :-)

[Gryffyn]

2-1 to the Chelsea; through now to the semifinal of the cardboard cup :-)

[marinesalvor]

well done - good weekend matchup on Sunday!

[Gryffyn]

Indeed. I hear Shearer may not be fit which is good for us. We have a pretty good record against your lads in London so looking forward to the game - as long as we stay ahead of the gunners!

[marinesalvor]

Shearer is trying hard to be fit... but Kluivert is looking dangerous - how many times can you hit the posts?

[Gryffyn]

Dunno but Kezman can probably tell you ;)

Need to do well this weekend to stay ahead of you in the fantasy league as well.

Hoping that the Man U v Gunners game tomorrow will be a high-scoring extra-time blood bath.

[marinesalvor]

as long as the gunners go down and wenger balls his eyes out

[Gryffyn]

It's been great watching his face and manner over the last few weeks. Few managers annoy me as much as him - all his players are angels and he never sees anything if contreversy is attached to his players but seems to have remarkable vision when it comes to others teams indiscretions.

Give me the straight talking of Sir Bobby or Chris Coleman and lately our new boss, anyday.

[Mingeathinaikos]

Premiership investment: Portsmouth to finish last @ 200 to 1 at the TAB a month ago. I got amongst it. Ambitious?[^]

[marinesalvor]

think West Brom will stay last - harrassed all the way by Delia's Cooking Team (Norwich)

[marinesalvor]

re wenger
http://www.tshirts365.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=956

[Gryffyn]

Damn that's good MS. May actually splurge for one.

Minge (?) - would have been a bit sick when they beat Bolton then but reassured with this mornings result.

West Brom have now got Captain Marvellous in charge so who knows.

Saints look sick to me.

[Mingeathinaikos]

I was v dark when they beat Bolton....huge game against the West Brom this weekend...the ol' 6 pointer.

[Greyhound]

Pissing down with rain outside,kids fighting,but @ 4-0 it truely is a wonderful day,and I feel so smug.-Chelsea fans ain't used to that. :)

[Gryffyn]

4-o to the Chelsea. Really starting to enjoy saying that. Sorry MS - your lads were right in it for 60 mins and then Lampard to the rescue :-)

[Gryffyn]

Bring back Sir Bobby MS - NC now in bottom half of table. They didn't give him long enough with his new players and the injuries etc.

[Gryffyn]

Also notice that you've snuck ahead of me in the fantasy league but I have two players playing tomorrow. Three players out with injuries this week and another two didn't play so hard to make points.

[Greyhound]

Adding to the snugness...there's not a scum supporter in sight!!!

[Gryffyn]

They've been pretty quiet of late. Although they have snuck back into chumpions league contention.

Can't rule em out. They are in 4th, in semi of cardboard cup and through to knock-out stage of CL.

Hopefully the Portugeezer will rest a few/all of the stars in this weeks meaningless (for us) CL game so we can be ready for the &rse this weekend.

[marinesalvor]

dont mention the weekend - thankfully I had an idyllic one away in one of the loveliest parts of the country and forgot there was soccer on!!

[Gryffyn]

there's always the highlights package tonight ;)

[marinesalvor]

sadly I think I will be too busy helping kids with homework ;)

[Gryffyn]

well, we got the ar$e next week so perhaps you'll be back into footy by then.

[marinesalvor]

will be backing you guys all the way - *sings* "Blue is the colour, football is the game... Chelsea..."

Lampard has been dream captain for me! 30pts this week

[Gryffyn]

Incredible the number of consequitive games he manages. Viera not playing for gunners this weekend - how sad. Hope the portugeezer rests lots of players for the cl game this week and that &rse get knocked out.

[Gryffyn]

Hey MS - snuck pass you after this mornings game - phew. Go those ex-Chelsea players.

[Mingeathinaikos]

quote:Originally posted by Mingeathinaikos

Premiership investment: Portsmouth to finish last @ 200 to 1 at the TAB a month ago. I got amongst it. Ambitious?[^]


Looks like they've come right since i placed the bet![:I]
Had to be better things i could have done with one large.:(

[Gryffyn]

I tell you, saints to be last!

[Gryffyn]

I may have to change that call now that Harry has been made manager and the other plonker has gone.

[Gryffyn]

2 all, I can live with that. Cracking game with controversy but little foul play. The A rse slip down to 3rd, oh dear.

[marinesalvor]

great to see the @rse go down a spot... as for the Geordies - its most unimpressive

[Gryffyn]

Bring back Sir Bobby don't you think? Technically he's still on contract to you guys and Souness hasn't done that much methinks. Of course the powers that be won't admit making a mistake so it won't happen.

Shearer may be caretaker manager before the season is out yet...

[Gryffyn]

4-0 to the Chelsea. It's great, I just get to cut and paste previous results :-)

MS - ??? What is sourness doing? Moved up into top 10 of the fantasy league after this weekends results.

[marinesalvor]

am in pain - again - so many pathetic rich young midfielders and not even Mr Shearer to boot them up the backside

[Gryffyn]

I'd really have thought with the talent at St James that NCU would be up there by now injuries and all - all clubs have a few of those afterall.

Seems to soon for Shearer to become a manager but he's definitely retiring in summer so he'll be at the head in a few years methinks.

Chelsea have scored 4 in quite a few games recently - certainly shut up the boring boring chelsea chanters.

[marinesalvor]

if I want to see the Toon score 4 I will have to put in the 2002 Return of the Entertainers DVD - sigh

[Greyhound]

BUMP
just bringing the thread up handy for the next round of matches.
:D:D

[Gryffyn]

LOL Greyhound. Certainly when the smoke clears form the xmas round I'm sure the tablewill have a different look.

Newcastle to be in relegation woe by the New Year? Just kidding MS ;)

If Chelsea still top the table after the next four games then they might have the confidence to carry on. Hard games in champs league and cardboard cup coming up to worry about.

I will be at the beach for post-xmas so no watching the games - just the results and internet for next few weeks.

Come on Chelsea :-)

[Greyhound]

I don't have Sky.Used to before life hit the rocks.Now floating free and cruising to open sea.However,Sky is kept out of kennels cause if we had it,nothing would get done.The dogs take up all my spare time.As a result,I know longer get to see my beloved "Blues" play,except for any crumbs TV3 toss up in the news.
Merry Christmas Gryff and everyone else.[8D]

[Gryffyn]

Perhaps you could find a friend with an evil time wasting sky subscription and get them to video the highlights package each week.

Getting rid of sky maybe be on Gryffyn household agenda next year to see if it frees up more time. Purely an issue of self-discipline but easier if the temptation is removed.

Enjoy your Christmas Greyhound.

[Greyhound]

http://www.explodingdog.com/dumbpict51/temphappy.gif


I'm enjoying it while it lasts.......[8D]

[Gryffyn]

Yay for innernet at the beach. Nice to see the lads of got 2 from 2 so far over the crammed xmas period.

Back for some more body surfing...

G

[Gryffyn]

MS - another loss! How long will you suffer sourness?

[Greyhound]

Life is still wonderful.Gryff,as well as the sunburn(??!!),beware of Laptops and scrotal warming.[8D]

[Greyhound]

Marinesalvor...I understand its YOUR lot-the TOON ARMY-thats responsible for the devastation in Asia. :)

[Gryffyn]

3 outa 3 over the xmas period and one to go. so far no dropped points, phew. unfortunately the chasers are also doing well.

[Greyhound]

Yawnn....by crikey I'm loving this.

[Gryffyn]

4 outa 4 even. only team to do so...

[shasta]

did we play over night, which game are you referring to?

Good article in the Sunday Times on the Mincers

[Sideshow Bob]

Chelsea won 3-1 in the 3rd round of the FA Cup against........S****horpe.

Report from BBC online: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/fa_cup/4139387.stm

[Sideshow Bob]

Just realised when I tried to type Scun-thorpe, the 4 letters in question were automatically replaced by astrix's!

Learn something every day!!

SSB

[marinesalvor]

back to a net connection - what a dreary xmas for the toon boys - though Dyer scored which is rarer than hens teeth

Greyhound- when NUFC said they wanted to break intot he asian market I thought they meant through marketing/merchandise

[Greyhound]

It just gets better and better.It'll be one heck of a crash if it all turns to custard.Only downer today was Sheff.Utds lose which ****ed up my multi (7 x games including Bolton@$5).

[Gryffyn]

Yes indedd Greyhound - I Watched it live - a beautiful result and with the a r s e falling at Bolton it just got even better.

Good score so far in the fantasy league MS - bet you wish you had kept Shearer though. I've still got 5 players to turn out yet so picking to be in a solid seventh after tomorrow.

[shasta]

Glad to see our annual trip to "3 point lane", resulting in a record 6th consecutive clean sheet in the EPL.

Poor Aresnal :(

[Gryffyn]

Gotta enjoy seeing Wenger's face when Bolton scored.

[marinesalvor]

yep am pretty happy!! long may the **** lose one nil to all comers!!!

[Mingeathinaikos]

quote:Originally posted by Mingeathinaikos

Premiership investment: Portsmouth to finish last @ 200 to 1 at the TAB a month ago. I got amongst it. Ambitious?[^]


This bet made a few months ago now looks impossible[xx(]. Both marinesalvor and Gryffyn's picks of West Brom and Southampton look safe....but who knows.

[Gryffyn]

well pompey might be selling yet another quality player which they may regret. I kinda like Robson so hope he rescues albion but with the new mgmt at saints I may be proved wrong there.

[marinesalvor]

are they selling to the Toon???

[Gryffyn]

toon are keen on aikibu. they have already sold quashie. would still pick them to stay in p'ship but hoping they lose to my Chelsea this weekend of course :-)

[Greyhound]

The fat lady is leaving the dressing room.As much as I delight in Chelsea's win,I went to England to have trials with Pompey in the mid 70s,so I have a soft spot for them and was hoping Chelsea would be 'gentle' on them.
Now Marineman,if your lot can just do the bizzo on the ****...[8D]

[Gryffyn]

Another beautiful Sunday morning waking to 3-0 to the Chelsea.

It's not over yet but it's starting to get to the point where we can rest a few stars for champs league and fa cup duty.

Go toon tomorrow.

Highlights package should be good - a lot of goals scored this weekend.

[marinesalvor]

sorry guys - wish I could have helped with the **** - didnt get to see the game but assume it wasnt a great one

[Gryffyn]

saw last 30 mins. a rse looked the better team and only Given performing heroically keeping score down. One good chance missed by Bowyer.

Damn. Now for Manure on Thursday morning. A scoring draw will be enough.

[Mingeathinaikos]

quote:Originally posted by Gryffyn

well pompey might be selling yet another quality player which they may regret. I kinda like Robson so hope he rescues albion but with the new mgmt at saints I may be proved wrong there.


West Brom to play the 3 teams above them in the next three games....Palace,Norwich , and then Southampton. Will sort things out a bit i imagine.

Good weekend for my 'Pompey to lose the premiership' bet, points for everyone below them so far (except Birmington, but they lost to Fulham), come on Blackburn![^]

[Gryffyn]

The Chelsea are through to the final of the cardboard cup after dumping out ManUre.

Tricky FA Cup this weekend against Brummies. Not sure what is worse, their football or the accents...

[marinesalvor]

hopefully now we have got rid of the snivelling and obnoxious Bellamy we can finally sort out the HR issues at the Toon... need to start winning some games

[Greyhound]

Hey Gryff...we could win not just 4 cups ,but maybe 5,if they still play for the Super cup in Tokyo.(Got to stop thinking like this..kiss of death for sure)...:)

[Gryffyn]

yes, I'd be happy with P'ship, then chumps leagues, then FA in that order.

5 cups - try 6 if you count the charity shield assuming we win either the FA or the P'ship then we get to play shield match. Was there at Wembley when we beat ManUre 2-0. Great day.

[Greyhound]

THE BOYS AT THE 'BRIDGE' HAVE JUST INSTALLED THIS...
http://www.xavierhs.org/alumnews/winter98/face1.jpg

[Gryffyn]

lol - we do have a few cups already but they are pretty dusty. new silverware needed for sure.

[shasta]

LOL @ Greyhound/Gryffyn, lets be realistic the premiership is ours, the cupboard cup is ours, the FA cup doesnt really matter, lets concentrate on Barcelona a tricky match, first up in the CL.

Not happy the SCUM scored against us!

[Gryffyn]

Hey there - the FA cup does matter! Just not as much as CL but certainly more than cardboard cup.

Good game against the brummies this weekend and maybe we might get an easier draw.

[shasta]

True Gryffyn, it does matter, just trying not to get too greedy wanting it all, a treble is still a rare feat, although this Chelsea side has the ability to do it. Whether they can or not we will have to wait and see!

[Greyhound]

For all of us that have an intense dislike for Man Utd., check this out...
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[Gryffyn]

good one.

By the end of Feb a lot of things will be clearer as regards multiple trophies. The big one is all I ask and everything else is a bonus.

[Gryffyn]

You just know for sure that if we win the P'ship and nothing else, then everyone will say that the season was a failure/disappointment/underachieved.

[Gryffyn]

Bye bye Brumies. A sweet 2-0 to the Chelsea. Hope we draw a non-prem team for the 5th round.

[Greyhound]

Not worried who we play Gryff.I am concearned about Blackburn away on Thursday. :(

[Gryffyn]

Well, most of the A team was rested for this game. 8 changes from the win over ManUre and still 2-0 over a p'ship team - bodes well. BB will be tough and we need the 3 pts but I'm confident that with the rested team members back plus BB have had a few worries of their own, we should prevail.

Will be watching the Arrse play ManUre live tomorrow. Please let it be a 0-0 draw with heaps of red cards...

[Greyhound]

I wonder if any of you guys keen on footy, have or have thought about buying shares in an English soccer club?I've toyed with the idea.I noticed a year ago that West brom. shares were @77.77(I think) now I can't find them listed.Sheff.Utd @ 22p ish.I had heard that Bury were also listed and I am dead keen on them (as a spec.)but blowed if I can find them.You blokes know if they trade under another name?

[Gryffyn]

Can't buy Chelsea shares anymore :-(

[marinesalvor]

Gryf buddy - I think we should go for Sunderland shares and bet that they will be promoted...

[Gryffyn]

Not bad thinking. Although are you as a committed Toon allowed to own such? It might get you into all sorts of trouble.

I thought Milwall shares might go up a bit when they won a place in the UEFA and they have the Dennis Wise factor.

Will look at the Black Cats though. Is there a share site that just has football/sporting shares?

[Gryffyn]

I think there is some talk of them de-listing now the chairman has grabbed over 50% of shares...

[marinesalvor]

I was always a conundrum in the north east - I liked sunderland AND newcastle - a mad kiwi can do that

yes - I heard that they may be delisted... sad...

I think the good old soccer investor site is down these days

I still track the shares on www.iii.co.uk

[Gryffyn]

Thanks MS - will look into a few.

[Greyhound]

Starting to sound like this thread should really be here now.Guess you can't help with my BURY problem huh.

[Gryffyn]

Start googling...

[marinesalvor]

seen the draw Gryf??
I hope Shearer has a blinder.... he has to go out with some silver - surely???

[Greyhound]

Gulp...the toon away.I guess it was only going to get harder. [:0]

[Gryffyn]

The FA Cup fifth-round draw in full:

Bolton Wanderers v Derby County or Fulham

West Bromwich Albion or Tottenham Hotspur v Nottingham Forest

Everton v Manchester United

Charlton Athletic v Leicester City

Burnley v Blackburn Rovers

Southampton v Brentford or Hartlepool United

Newcastle United v Chelsea

****nal v West Ham United or Sheffield United

Ties to be played on the weekend of February 19/20th.

[Gryffyn]

Bugger! Was hoping for an easy one to help us focus on CL v Barca.

Remember Chelsea dumping Toon out a few years back in a semi-final that we went on to win. Shearer was a handful that day.

Glad to see Burnley get a derby draw. They're the second team that I support and I hope they can go further.

[Gryffyn]

Well Greyhound, I guess if we want to win them all we have to beat some good teams along the way (or lose trying).

I'm heartened by how well the b-team played yesterday so perhaps a result is possible while still not knackering the stars before the big one.

[Gryffyn]

ManUre and the Arrse on tv within an hour. Should be a cracker of game. Go the ref!

[Gryffyn]

Oh the beautiful game! 2-4, kick up the Arrse. Plenty of cards which may bite later on too. So long as we win tomorrow then it has been a great result.

[Gryffyn]

1-0 to the Chelsea this morning :-) Rough game and with Robben limping off early I hope we don't pick yup anymore injuries soon (like Huth on the weekend).

Still, 3 more points in the bag.

[Greyhound]

http://www.dailynexus.com/story_images/2002-10-25/c-fatlady.jpg
SHES ARRIVED AND IS WARMING UP

[Gryffyn]

I'm not wanting to be that sure just yet. Robbo hurt, Drogba recovering, Huth out for a few weeks, Parker out, Cav yet to come back... a few draws or lossed and ManUre will be right there. Next 3 p'ship games important.

But I do like the picture and the sentiment :-)

[Greyhound]

Had visions this morning of Ryan slotting home a last minute goal.That would've REALLY pissed me off...yet I would've been kinda proud...[:0]

[Gryffyn]

I felt the same way while watching. He looks to have a future in the p'ship anyway (but not at Chelsea).

[Gryffyn]

This was too good not to share with other football pundits...

Mark Radcliffe
Soccernet Correspondent

Hacking bag of shyte 0 Chelsea 1
It's been a while since I've seen a team so inept, so secure in it's lack of footballing ability and so desperate that they take to a pitch determined to try to kick the opposition off the park. But that is what northern inadequates and former football club Blackburn Rovers tried to do to us on wednesday.
Started early, David 'small man syndrome' Thompson went delebierately over the top on John Terry (and turned away like a coward in mid challenge) after 4 minutes, Terry said he thought he'd broken his leg and also that the bloke went over the top. Then we score and they decide to do Robben with a late studs first challenge that Uriah Rennie chose to ignore - him being the worse ref in the premiership - and so it went on.
They kicked, hacked, spat and sulked. Funniest of all being Paul 'I am also a small inadequate man' Dickov who must be Rennies ***** as he was only booked whereas he should have been shipped out to the colonies. kicking, pushing rowing and eventually being picked up by the throat by JT and todl to behave himself or we'll take the raised insoles out of his shoes.

All Chelsea fans loved Mark Hughes, hard but fair. His side were dirty cowards, they tried to kick a point out of us and the celebration at the end - where Jose went up even further in my estimation by refusing to shake hands with the shameful Hughes - says it all.
We've bought success? Where do you buy that kind of spirit and discipline? How much does it cost? Any chance of getting soem for Tin Henman?

11 points clear of an in form Manure side who out thought ****nal the night before. It isn't in the bag, not by any means. We have some very tough games coming up and increasingly we are picking up injuries but christ we deserve the title. And the former football club Blackburn deserve to be relegated where **** like Dickov, Savage, Neill and Thompson will just about find their level.

[Greyhound]

:D:D:D

[shasta]

Man City at home this weekend postponed, so lets hope the Birmingham based sides win & all but seal the EPL for us.

The U16 side should be able to bring it home from here!

[Gryffyn]

pp only till tomorrow :-) live on sky for larks.

so far the competition have crushed the brummies :-(

MS - you've been quite for a while. Got your Sourness out, bring back Bobby campaign underway yet?

[marinesalvor]

another draw for us... they will soon put the tyne river to sleep they are so dull....

[Gryffyn]

only maganaged a draw ourselves :-( at least ManC had a go and deserved it.

[marinesalvor]

surely a Man U comeback is just too unlikely?? we would never hear the end of it

[Gryffyn]

it's unlikely but not out of the question :-( AR might be gone for the season and Drogba still on sidelines. Lot of games coming up. I think you might find an under strength team for that FA cup clash MS.

[marinesalvor]

under strength wont matter - our guys are too busy spending their millions to actually worry about playing

[Greyhound]

Manchester ****in City and Kevin ****in Keegan.. :(

[Gryffyn]

United shares soar following Glazer bid


Manchester United shares rocketed by almost four per cent this morning following confirmation of Malcolm Glazer's approach to the Old Trafford board.

Malcolm Glazer: Another bid (Photography/GettyImages)

Shares were trading at 279p, up 10.3p on Friday's closing price, as United chief executive David Gill and the rest of the Red Devils board started their analysis of the `definitive proposals' put to them by Glazer over the weekend.


The American business tycoon is believed to be offering 300p per share, valuing the club at £800million, and would proceed with a formal bid should his current proposals get the green light.

Having told Glazer in December that he would not enter into any further discussions about the future of United until there were more concrete plans to examine, Gill is clearly taking the latest offer seriously.

Fans are vehemently opposed to any single individual taking control of United, a stance that has been backed in recent times by Sir Alex Ferguson, Eric Cantona and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

Now Rio Ferdinand, tipped as a future Red Devils captain once Roy Keane retires, has spoken out against Glazer.

'A lot of people want the club's interest to be with people who have grown up with the club and got its interests at heart,' Ferdinand told BBC Radio 5 Live.

'No-one knows what this guy will be bringing to the table.'

Glazer has already had two overtures to the Old Trafford board rebuffed due to the high level of debt required to finance his scheme.

The 76-year-old Tampa Bay Buccaneers owner, who is thought to want sons Avi and Joel to be heavily involved in running the club, has cut the borrowings by around £200million and promised to earmark more funds for squad strengthening.

However, this has done nothing to appease influential fans groups, who have vowed to mount a forceful campaign to keep Glazer out.

Of even more significance though will be the reaction of major shareholders John Magnier and JP McManus, who through their Cubic Expression investment vehicle own 28.9 per cent of the club.

The Irish racing duo broke off contact with Glazer in October and unless they indicate a willingness to sell their stake, any takeover bid would be doomed to failure.

United winger Ryan Giggs tonight empathised with the supporters who are urging Glazer to back off.

Giggs, on international duty with Wales, said: 'The Glazer things doesn't affect the players, but I sympathise with the view of the fans.

'As far as the club is run at the moment, there is nothing wrong with it and I know the fans want that to continue. So do I.

'They feel the club is in good hands and it can't get any better than it is at the moment.'

[Gryffyn]

I didn't relaise that a 4% rise was considered "rocketed".

[marinesalvor]

rocketed about as fast as a Kluivert volley straight at the keeper

[Gryffyn]

ooooh, I sense a slightly bitter/disillusioned Toon supporter.

Over here is a slightly nervous Chelsea supporter. Need a result v Everton this weekend to show back on track.

[Gryffyn]

Robben out for at least 6 weeks with broken foot :-(

[Greyhound]

You're nervous???!!! I'm ****ting bricks.Chelsea sneeze and I think they've got pneaumoania! But being realistic,in this, their centenary year,they should 'piss in' now.Funny how the only other time of sweet success was their 50th!!!!!!(excluding cup comps.)
:)

[Gryffyn]

We need a fit Drogba then I'll be happier. Why oh why didn't we buy another winf/forward to replace Mutu during the Jan window?

[marinesalvor]

I guess this Toon supporter is now resigned to the fact that we may miss the drop this year and thats about it...

I am also hoping the reverse psychology will work and the lads will pull out a big one to stay in the FA Cup

[Gryffyn]

Nooooooooooooo!

[marinesalvor]

You guys dont really want the treble do you??? You have to let us take Big Al out with a piece of silverware in his hands!

ps - see that Chelsea still number one rank in ESPN top 25 world clubs this morning

[Gryffyn]

maybe BCU will have the greatest come back since lazurus and make it to 4th and qualify for chumps league and then he'll decide to stay one more year... don't let the FA cup distract you from that!

[marinesalvor]

hmmm I think Chumps league has gone for us (for another year...)so FA Cup might be last hope for Big Al

[Gryffyn]

MS - don't forget to review your fantasy team this week as several teams are not playing!

[marinesalvor]

Thanks mate - will do - but I also cant really afford to make many transfers!!!

[Gryffyn]

the eternal dilemma

[Gryffyn]

MP joins Anti-Glazer protests


Manchester United fans have warned Malcolm Glazer that they will take their battle against his takeover bid to Parliament and beyond.
The influential Shareholders United group have been backed by the Manchester Central MP Tony Lloyd, an SU patron and chair of the Parliamentary Manchester United Group.


Lloyd tabled an Early Day Motion in Parliament today claiming the bid was 'against the interests of those supporters and football'.

Shareholders United vice-chairman Oliver Houston confirmed his group would attempt to take their fight against Glazer to the highest offices in the land.

Houston said: 'We will fight this battle in Parliament, on the Stock Exchange and through the courts if we have to. There is so much at stake and we will do everything we can to defend our club.'

United's board are still deciding whether to allow Glazer access to their books as takeover talk intensifies.

Lloyd's Early Day Motion reads:

That this house notes the renewed attempt to take over Manchester United PLC by Malcolm Glazer and his company, Tampa Bay Buccaneers American Football franchise.

Recognises that senior players Ryan Giggs and Rio Ferdinand have spoken out against the bid.

Recalls that the overwhelming majority of Manchester United supporters oppose the bid.

Believes that any takeover designed to transform the club into a private company would be against the interests of those supporters and football.

Considers that profit increases in ticket and merchandise prices in order to increase shareholder return would conflict with the club's wider obligations.

Accepts that football clubs differ from other trading companies in owing real accountability to their customers, the supporters.

Calls upon the Premier League and the football authorities to use the powers that they have to ensure that full information about the benefits and disbenefits of this bid to football in general and Manchester United in particular be placed in the public domain.

Is aware that bankers NM Rothschild are backing this bid.

Calls on them to issue a statement explaining how they intend to measure support for this takeover from football supporters in line with statements that that is their intention.

And reiterates its request to the Department of Trade and Industry to take steps to regulate any takeover on public interest grounds.

[Gryffyn]

Of course you say "why don't more fans buy shares and then they can block t/o's"

But of course as the price gets pushed up with lack of liquidity etc self-interest takes over.

Plus even if there were 50,000 loyal regular non fancy sandwich eating Manure fans prepared to have a few shares - how many would they each need to block a t/o?

[Greyhound]

THE MAN I'M WORSHIPING ON THIS WONDERFUL SUNDAY MORN..
http://www.mychelseafc.com/images/gudjohnsen.jpg

[Gryffyn]

Bloody good result that, And the (other) scousers lost too. Expect ManUre and the Arrse to win but at least a little pressure goes back on them.

Starting next weekend it gets very tough - NC in FA cup, then the all important CL game and then the CCup final all without Robben and possibly Drogba for a lot of it.

[shasta]

Nice one gryffyn, Eideur saved us from a potentially tricky trip to Everton.

Especially liked his comments in the Friday Dom, "we are not a one man team".

Lets await a slip up now by Man U

[Gryffyn]

Yes, ManC are certainly are the team most likely to cause an upset this year - already one over Man U and us plus unlucky against Arrse.

[Greyhound]

Will have a good laugh at EMIRATES when we've won everything going in the next couple of months.Reckon someones head should roll at that organization...maybe blasted off with an old artillary gun-like this...



http://store.aetv.com/MEDIA/ProductCatalog/m970022_AAE81193b.jpg

[Gryffyn]

Damn - ManUre 2-0 over Kevin's lads :-(

A week of rest and recovery now before the FA cup games.

[Gryffyn]

Go the mighty Toon tomorrow eh MS? I'll be hoping for a few tired players by Sunday.

[Gryffyn]

Bugger! Well done the toon.

[Gryffyn]

MS - Without wanting to sound sour-grapes, I'm not sure that NCU have the firepower to go all the way in this one with ManUre and the Arrse still in it. It was a below strength Chelsea in more ways than one.

However, that said we won our last two FA cups when we weren't exactly top team in the league - maybe AS will nick some silverware.

[marinesalvor]

WOOOHOOOO!!!! we'll take it

I think we can do this on emotion not skill - though was just glad to see our defence not leaky for once

[madmike]

is this the start of the chelsea choke.
see that celtic have coughed up the premiership lead

[Gryffyn]

Barca this week then cardboard cup final - see how those two go for indication of Chelsea's wellebing.

[marinesalvor]

I actually lay the credit for the victory at the feet of the new alternate strip shirt with Kluivert 11 that was delivered to me on Friday - great price too off Trademe

[Gryffyn]

:-)

Well, my FA Cup allegiance now switches to Burnley. As they may struggle to win their replay away the Toon will probably get my support thereafter.

[Gryffyn]

Very big week for Chelsea now.

[Greyhound]

http://bigwhiteguy.com/images/daily/jump2.jpg

[Gryffyn]

sorry dude but your pic doesn't show...

[marinesalvor]

Huge week all right - off to Nou camp huh - the last time the Toon were in Champs league we got to Barca in last 16...

[Gryffyn]

Sounds like we're taking a b-team there as well with the injury list growing daily :-( You guys got your return uefa game so should go through I imagine.

[Gryffyn]

Hey MS, Bridge is out for rest of season so can we have Babayaro back?

[Greyhound]

DEAR ****NAL ... http://meade.k12.sd.us/dtl/goodbye.jpg

[Gryffyn]

Pleasing result wasn't it but not quite out of yet unfortunately.

[Greyhound]

Sorry Gryff,have to disagree...they're GOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNEEE

[Gryffyn]

2-1 down at the Nou Camp - not the worst result but a shame after being a luck goal ahead. Two weeks to wait and must wine 1 nil or better...

[Gryffyn]

2-1 down at the Nou Camp - not the worst result but a shame after being a luck goal ahead. Two weeks to wait and must win 1 nil or better...

[marinesalvor]

31 shots at goal by Barca, 0 by Chelsea - did very very well to hold out and an away goal was huge (even if it was an own goal!!)

Manure not so lucky

[Gryffyn]

yes, watched the Manure game - high quality display by AC - don't think Manure will go any further at the San sero. We'll have our work cut out as well.

Hopefully we can bounce back and deal to the scousers this weekend.

[shasta]

For sure we will Gryffyn, that away goal might be all we need, when back at home.

We shoul dbe able to scrape a 1-0 nil & progress, heres hoping anyway.

Its Man U with all to do after a home loss.
Such a shame really!

[Gryffyn]

13 days to wait. scousers have best chance of next round at this stage.

[Greyhound]

http://recollectionbooks.com/bleed/images/war/crying.jpg

[Gryffyn]

Greyhound, you're starting to worry me ;)

[Paper Tiger]

Do you think that the Administrators will ever work out that this is in the wrong forum [:0]

[Mingeathinaikos]

quote:Originally posted by Paper Tiger

Do you think that the Administrators will ever work out that this is in the wrong forum [:0]


PT, it has investments in the subject line, that'll fool them everytime![|)]

Go the mighty Blackburn.....pulling well clear of relegation woes now....maybe a challenge for Chelsea next season!;)

[Greyhound]

Notice how we are on the "Main" board,and those rugby peasants are on the minor one?:D:D:D:D:D:D