Male circumcision

[cantab]

Should this be permitted in NZ? It's a barbaric act and performed in civilised nations ie non-muslim, God knows why?. We're talking about a natural part of a person that is removed yet the circumcisee gets no say in the decision and has to live with the consequences in later life.

Male Circumcision: Medical or Ritual?

"This article discusses the history and reasoning behind male circumcision; identifies overwhelming medical evidence against the performance of non-medical (ritual) circumcision; and argues that the medical profession may be ignoring modern medical law through a combination of medical opinion, negligence, and vitiated consent. It also suggests that the legal distinction between male and female circumcision should be removed and that the Australian executive is indirectly authorising and encouraging ritual male circumcision."

http://www.cirp.org/library/legal/richards/

[whatsup]

Copycat,get a life Cantab!!!

[Packersoldkidney]

I have experienced the knife....cut out of Packer, which I'm happy about, as he has now departed.

[belgarion]

quote:Originally posted by whatsup

Copycat,get a life Cantab!!!


Pathetic! The act is exactly the same.

No matter how you slice it WHATSUP, the act is basically mutilation based on outdated norms. Blame religion for these norms if you like. Its a tenuous relationship at best. A far better corelation exist between eduation and religion ;)

[cantab]

quote:Originally posted by belgarion


quote:Originally posted by whatsup

Copycat,get a life Cantab!!!


Pathetic! The act is exactly the same.

No matter how you slice it WHATSUP, the act is basically mutilation based on outdated norms. Blame religion for these norms if you like. Its a tenuous relationship at best. A far better corelation exist between eduation and religion ;)


Belgarion, exactly!

Whatsup, what's the difference?

[cantab]

From Whatsup on the female circumcision topic:

"I see the reason that the 8 female athletes did/do not want to return home to Sierra Leone is at their age of the early 20's they will have to under go the barbaric ritual/disfigurement of female circumcision, what sort of religious fanaticism would enforce this practise on its female members , only a stone age one Muslim!!!"

Errr... but what about the little boys who get no choice[?]

[Major von Tempsky]

Yes, its ruined my life. (where did the 4 kids come from? [:0]

[cantab]

quote:Originally posted by Major von Tempsky

Yes, its ruined my life. (where did the 4 kids come from? [:0]


MVT, congratulations.

[trackers]

its all about the aerodynamics

[cantab]

I've been doing some googling and found another male who thought being circumcised was great, and further that many women swear by it, the following is but one example:

http://www.circlist.com/femalecirc/anatfemale.html

"I recently had my clitoral hood removed (female circumcision) to improve sensitivity and cleanliness as it was such a long hood. I had some pain during healing, but that has been minimal. Healing has been rapid.

The glans clitoris has slowly increased in size since the operation. The sensitivity is also there and my ability to orgasm has increased be cause of it.

I think that all women should consider have their hoods removed as it would aid in cleanliness of the area and grreatly improving orgasm! I'm totally satisfied!"

Cindy (USA)

[Major von Tempsky]

Ah, Cantab me old mate. Wrong circumcision thread. You need to post that on the Female Circum thread.
But should it be clockwise or anticlockwise threaded?

[lanenz]

Where do you think that Niki Lauda got his new ears from. No wonder he goes into a frenzy when someone whispers to him

ops..put this one under female circumcision

[stockie4]

Hi there all you guys. Circumcision had it but why. They tell me that women like a tickler and this means that they miss out!

[Major von Tempsky]

How does one get uncircumcised.....

[lanenz]

quote:Originally posted by Major von Tempsky

How does one get uncircumcised.....
Rather than have someone try and pull the wool over your eyes, trying pulling the skin over your one eyed monster.

[stockie4]

quote:Originally posted by Major von Tempsky

How does one get uncircumcised.....


I sae a guy on tele once who was hanging upside down suspended from you know what with the idea that he would stretch his skin and come to the fore.

[cantab]

Perhaps some of the women out there could tell us if they have a preference one way or the other.

Does anyone know of statistics as to what % of the population is circumcised. If not perhaps we could lobby to have the question included in the next census.

[cantab]

quote:Originally posted by ace42

Hi there all you guys. Circumcision had it but why. They tell me that women like a tickler and this means that they miss out!


ace42 you are so right.

The Christchurch Press reported on a study in the NZ Medical Journal. I'm very pleased to report that:

O’Hara and O’Hara reported that women who had experienced coitus with both intact and circumcised men preferred intact partners by a ratio of 8.6 to one. Most women (85.5%) in that survey reported that they were more likely to experience orgasm with a genitally intact partner: ‘They [surveyed women] were also more likely to report that vaginal secretions lessened as coitus progressed with their circumcised partners (16.75, 6.88–40.77).’4

Presence of the movable foreskin makes a difference in foreplay, being more arousing to the female.4 Women reported they were about twice as likely to experience orgasm if the male partner had a foreskin.

We conducted a survey of 35 female sexual partners aged 18 to 69 years who had experienced sexual intercourse with both circumcised and genitally intact men.

Participants completed a 35-item sexual awareness survey. Women reported they were significantly more likely to have experienced vaginal dryness during intercourse with circumcised than with genitally intact men ÷2 (df = 1, n = 20) = 5.0, p <0.05.5

Women who preferred a circumcised male sexual partner averaged 27.3 years of age (SD = 8.2), while those whose stated preference was for a genitally intact partner had a mean age of 36.4 years (SD = 13.7). Thus, the role of the male foreskin in preventing loss of vaginal lubrication during intercourse may become more discernible with increasing age among women. We reported:

‘During intercourse, the skin of an intact penis slides up and down the shaft, stimulating the glans and the nerves of the inner and outer foreskin. On the outstroke, the glans is partially or completely engulfed by the foreskin with more skin remaining inside the vagina than is the case with the circumcised penis. This ‘valve’ mechanism is thought to retain the natural lubrication provided by the female because the bunched up skin acts to block the lubrication escaping from the vagina, which results in dryness.’5

Gillian A Bensley

Gregory J Boyle
Department of Psychology
Bond University, QLD, Australia

http://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/116-1181/595/