will minder post on a subject related to shares?

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[xx(]

[zyreon]

A picture is worth a thousand words....


MINDER:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/sucks5.jpg

Zyreon minder does not have enough brains to post on any topic that he can not get a one eyed view on from the american news.

[craic]

Who shot the site administrator?

[Gryffyn]

Unlikely.

[Burgerbun]

MINDER IS NIGHTMARE, BALANCE, SNIPER and MATRIX

ban them ALL

[Capitalist]

I don't agree with the flooding of the board, but by replying to Minder's threads, instead of ignoring them Gryffyn, you have put them at the top of the page again. Counter-productive surely. I note you did not complain about Belgarion's OT thread in the same manner.

[mikescott]

I be thinking I have made my point - this be most disgraceful behaviour by those posters who are complaining when they be so happy to tolerate all kind of irrelevant postings by others, especially that loser Belgarion.

So what's be the story? Why the double standard?

[boring]

No double standard ... at least Belgarion sticks to posting his macro/political views on a small number of threads.

By all means, post your stuff, but don't flood ST with numerous irrelevant NEW threads.

[mikescott]

Boring,

No double standard? Gee - you could have fooled me!

So what's the relevance of Aussie Hicks as a new thread today? Especially when there's one on Iraq Invasion and attempts in the past on others? Why no complaints from you?

[kiwigold]

MINDLESS would be a more suitable handle this time around ********,as in mindless boring rambles from a diseased mind.

[boring]

Minder, admittedly I didn't see the new Belgarion thread until after I wrote my post because it was near the bottom ... after the bombardment of all your new threads ... so I now fully get your point.

Rather than defacing the whole of ST, why don't you just continue to attack those threads ? Then the rest of us can just get on with the more important stuff.

[Lawnmower]

Quite correct, the political topics of this forum has lead me to only being an infrequent visitor to this site, minder is merely taking the same liberty in posting political topics that others have done in the past, so why pick on him just because he is prolific in posting. The rot had set into this forum well before minder came on the scene, pity as this used to be an enjoyable site to visit.

[Gryffyn]

Cap - I DID in fact post on Belgs thread this morning saying it had no place on ST - he wasn't actually flooding/spamming with new threads though as was Minder.

[Halebop]

I'm not debating the pros or cons of banning Minder or any other individual - it's a pointless task in any case. It's an easy thing to modify your IP address and register with a new user name if you are banned.

I too prefer reading about investment and business related topics when I visit ST. Having said that, there have been some great "non business" threads in the past and hopefully there will be in the future. I personally just stop visiting a thread once it bores me. Anyone can exercise this perogative. I don't find Minder's musings all that offensive but if others do, just don't read them!

[Capitalist]

Quite right Halebop.

What started the brawl yesterday?

What started the Reagan fracas?

Trolling threads put up by someone else. Someone deliberately setting out to make mischief, knowing who they would be baiting. Not everyone can ignore troll posts and let them wither on the vine.

Minder obviously feels passionately about these things and it got out of hand.

Trolls love to sit back and enjoy the carnage they have created. Don't feed the trolls Minder.

[Lawso]

quote: Will minder post on a subject related to shares? unquote

Why pick on minder? Of 13 threads active today only 3 by my count have anything to do with the stock market. Blame it on Sunday, bloody Sunday, perhaps.

On second thoughts, I can think of several reasons for picking on minder ;)

[Futurz]

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[zyreon]

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"ju wan axe?"

[Cooper]

Is the kitten still breathing zyreon?

[Major von Tempsky]

But does ShareTrader aim to have a full informed discussion on the NZX companies?

I think not.

Take Contact Energy. Our, what?, 3rd largest company? Often is by values traded.
It's a takeover candidate, it's in the centre of the energy crisis, it's profit is rising gi-normously (63% last announcement).

Yet there is more discussion in the Australian media (AFR for a start) than there is in NZ.

How much discussion on CEN has there been in the last few weeks on ShareTrader?

Absolutely zilch.
I gave up trying to keep CEN discussion threads alive, there was just no interest.

Has Belge ever posted on CEN? Has he ever thought of CEN in the last few weeks?

If NZ loses CEN to overseas owners altogether you guys have only yourselves to blame.
You just couldn't be bothered getting out of bed that day.

[mikescott]

Hear! Hear! Major.

This is fast becoming a rat-ship for sea-going rampers, manipulative posters and micky-mouse half-brained traders. Look at the stocks discussed - FTB, RMG etc.

[craic]

I agree, Major, that this forum tends to be filled with stuff that reflects the posters fears and dreams but people want to verbalise when they are uncertain. What is there to discuss about Contact? If WRI sells in the Norgate saga, Contact will move to No 2 in my portfolio after NZR but may be overtaken by PGG which all my indicators point to as the best bet around.
Yesterday morning, after a bad night cleaned out all the rubbish from my pf. Sold 20 odd grand of rubbish. Its a much more effective theraphy than hanging on to it and bleating on this forum.

[Capitalist]

quote:Originally posted by Major von Tempsky

But does ShareTrader aim to have a full informed discussion on the NZX companies?

I think not.

Take Contact Energy. Our, what?, 3rd largest company? Often is by values traded.
It's a takeover candidate, it's in the centre of the energy crisis, it's profit is rising gi-normously (63% last announcement).

Yet there is more discussion in the Australian media (AFR for a start) than there is in NZ.

How much discussion on CEN has there been in the last few weeks on ShareTrader?

Absolutely zilch.
I gave up trying to keep CEN discussion threads alive, there was just no interest.

Has Belge ever posted on CEN? Has he ever thought of CEN in the last few weeks?

If NZ loses CEN to overseas owners altogether you guys have only yourselves to blame.
You just couldn't be bothered getting out of bed that day.


Hi Tempsky :)

IMO stock like CEN and banking sector stock are just not sexy enough to interest most [xx(] They don't provide the excitement and glamour of the IPO's and penny dreadfuls maybe.
I guess we are too bloody boring :D[:I]:D

[zyreon]

Incidentally

I used to frequent a discussion community which had various categories ranging from drugs, paranormal, self-reinvention, "bad ideas" and so on

bottom line, they had moderators...

i.e. if a thread was started in a forum that wasn't related to it (i.e. belonged in another forum) it was removed and placed in appropriate forum.

so? well you would think share traders were more sophisticated than anarchists, druggies, weirdos, pyros, and "h@x0rz"

[wsheridan]

quote:Originally posted by Major von Tempsky

But does ShareTrader aim to have a full informed discussion on the NZX companies?

I think not.

Take Contact Energy. Our, what?, 3rd largest company? Often is by values traded.
It's a takeover candidate, it's in the centre of the energy crisis, it's profit is rising gi-normously (63% last announcement).

Yet there is more discussion in the Australian media (AFR for a start) than there is in NZ.

How much discussion on CEN has there been in the last few weeks on ShareTrader?

Absolutely zilch.
I gave up trying to keep CEN discussion threads alive, there was just no interest.

Has Belge ever posted on CEN? Has he ever thought of CEN in the last few weeks?

If NZ loses CEN to overseas owners altogether you guys have only yourselves to blame.
You just couldn't be bothered getting out of bed that day.


I've often posted on CEN, PWC and NGC ... NGC especially about two years ago when it was extremely good buying. I think they just aren't considered sexy enough for Sharetrader members. A shame really because if you've been in these stocks lately you have done very well.

It's a bit like AIA ... for ages noone really took an interest, it got talked about a lot after most of the smart money was in, now it's quiet again.


I reckon stocks are like publicity for movie stars .... there's only one thing worse than being talked about, and that's not being talked about:)

[star]

I bought CEN and NGC about three months ago. Both give me over 15% return. I am quite satisfied. I intend to hold both for long term and will buy more when the price is in weakness.

[belgarion]

quote:Originally posted by wsheridan

I reckon stocks are like publicity for movie stars .... there's only one thing worse than being talked about, and that's not being talked about:)


... So very true ... punters should take note!

[Lawso]

quote: posted by wsheridan
I reckon stocks are like publicity for movie stars .... there's only one thing worse than being talked about, and that's not being talked about
Actually, that was Oscar Wilde: "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about."

Apart from that, I share your views as a contented holder of stocks largely ignored by posters - AIA, CEN, FBU, WAM, WPT etc. The pages devoted to ravings about FTB and the like are harmless, sometimes amusing but completely irrelevant AFAIC (as far as I'm concerned :)

[KJ]

Major-the reality is that the topics that generate most interest are not ones related to the sharemarket-eg Iraq etc

Unfortunately this site has gone down hill in the last 6 mths.Often sharemarket topics now degenerate into nonsense comments with little thought or analysis eg 51 pgs on 42Below.

[Capitalist]

Well like it or not, politics and group psychology are the prime movers of markets.

Many of my readers can't understand why, as an investment strategist, I write so much about politics and government policy since neither has anything to do with investing. Well, unless you slept through 2003, now you know that politics and your portfolio are hopelessly intertwined. Last year was a textbook case of how you can use analysis of monetary policy, tax policy and military policy to make great market calls. Think Wall Street and Pennsylvania Avenue have nothing in common? Think again.
Don Luskin

PS The Major is just being a grumpy bunny ;)

[KJ]

I don't disagree with you at all Capitalist.

[craic]

Kj and Capatalist - do the numbers. The Iraq war thread owned and operated by Belgarion has fifteen readers per post - the 42 Below next to it has 48.7 on my arithmetic. People on this forum show a distinct preference for topics about shares over topics about politics.

[dinosaur]

Craic, I'm not wanting to boost Belgies ego, but I don't think you can rely on the "Read" numbers, as I always hit the back button to go back to the Topic page, and I have noticed that by doing this the Read number does not change.

[KJ]

Fair comment Craic-in agreeing with Cap I was agreeing to the point that politics and psycology have an influence on the stockmarket.

[Capitalist]

Also clicking the 'reply to topic' button at the right by poster's name to get the latest reply first does not show as a hit.

This forum is far and away the most popular for NZ sharemarket. Why? I think it is largely because it is not sanitised. Pushing the 'moderator' ie censorship, barrow puts a lot of people off. Posters aren't intimidated into thinking they have to be the reincarnated Einstein to post here. If one wants to write a flatulent post what of it?

Often the people who complain the most are the ones who never put up any threads. In which case they are part of the problem, not the solution.;)

[thereslifeafter87]

The reason the number of posts appears to not change when you hit the 'back' button is that you are goin back to the previous screen that has already been downloaded and stored in your internet cache on your PC's hard drive. Next time you refresh that screen, the number will update. So if you hit 'back' and then 'refresh' the new numbers will show up. Same as if you go back to the NZX screen by clicking hte NZX link up the top of the page.

[Major von Tempsky]

Agree with most of the comments.

The best news is (a) CEN etc are up today (b) a lot more people prefer to read puffery about FTB than they do Belg's manaical ravings on Iraq, the US, or anything else that comes into his head.

I think I'll go and have a celebratory cup of coffee on the strength of that.

Heigh-ho, it's past the shortest day in Chch and we still haven't had a real frost this year..... roll on global warming :-).
The Russians, Canadians and US should be all for it in making huge areas of marginal or useless land useful, and the Australians seem to think it's going to increase their rainfall.

Anyone know a shop which only sells genetically engineered food products that I can do my weekly grocery shopping at? :-)

[Capitalist]

Good boy Tempsky [:X]. See, no need to be a grumpy bunny...it all comes out in the wash :)

[Gryffyn]

MVT - any Maccas in the US ;)