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ananda77
19-06-2004, 02:18 PM
<center>Residential 10-Day Courses in VIPASSANA MEDITATION</center>
Exclusively for Executives and Other Leaders
"As leaders, we have a responsibility to set an example, to be an inspiration. A sage once said, 'a balanced mind is necessary to balance the unbalanced mind of others.'" - S.N. Goenka
http://www.executive.dhamma.org
Lawso
19-06-2004, 03:49 PM
[|)] ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Gryffyn
19-06-2004, 03:59 PM
Yes, but if everyone else has balanced minds then I need to keep my unbalanced to balance them out; right?
youre doing a great job Gryffyn :-)
Lawnmower
19-06-2004, 06:52 PM
Gryffyn, there could be an opening for you running courses for people wishing to have an unbalanced mind, who wish to differentiate themselves from the balanced masses.
As your courses would be exclusively for leaders and executives, thus generating some significant margins. Gee, you could even list the company !
zyreon
19-06-2004, 08:25 PM
well there's something you don't see everyday
might go mediatate on this for a while, i think im out of balance, my yin and yang spread is precarious :P
David Renwick
19-06-2004, 09:10 PM
Ananda77 - you have only to look at the "Professional Investing" thread to see leaders sharing & creating inspiration. Save your breath. Om Mani Padme.:)
Major von Tempsky
20-06-2004, 09:06 AM
hmmmmm....
So, Mr Goenka "worked as a prominent and successful international businessman in Myanmar (Burma)" did he?
Would someone like to tell me the names of a few prominent international businesses emanating from Myanmar?
Mr Goenka "attended the World Peace Conference".
There's a nice children's book which has a wonderful quote in it - "Guinea pigs love Peace".
Nuff said.
Gryffyn
20-06-2004, 10:02 AM
LOL :-)
Capitalist
20-06-2004, 10:21 AM
quote:Originally posted by Major von Tempsky
hmmmmm....
So, Mr Goenka "worked as a prominent and successful international businessman in Myanmar (Burma)" did he?
Would someone like to tell me the names of a few prominent international businesses emanating from Myanmar?
Mr Goenka "attended the World Peace Conference".
There's a nice children's book which has a wonderful quote in it - "Guinea pigs love Peace".
Nuff said.
Say what??
I had already booked us in Tempsky--don't tell me you don't want to go...oh the HUMANITY!!!
Halebop
20-06-2004, 11:16 AM
quote:Originally posted by Capitalist
Say what??
I had already booked us in Tempsky--don't tell me you don't want to go...oh the HUMANITY!!!
Sorry Cap, you can't go anywhere. You're already booked for the comet remember?
ananda77
20-06-2004, 05:27 PM
In 2002 S.N. Goenka guided a 10-day retreat for 125 top executives and leaders in North America. Since then, courses have been held exclusively for executives and leaders at Vipassana meditation centres in Australia, USA, Europe, and India. Leaders in business and government are discovering that the traditional reasoning "I am too busy" or "This is not for me" is a myth. The dividends from learning the practical technique (e.g. the Vipassana meditation technique. the writer.)far exceed the investment of time and effort.
Some Praise from past participants:
"After ten days I went back to work feeling as if I'd had a six-week holiday. People stopped me in the corridor to say, 'Why are you looking so happy'?"
Dr. Elizabeth Gordon-Werner, Manager Electronic Strategic Projects, NSW Department of Commerce.
More if you want or just visit the side, http://www.executive.dhamma.org/
Capitalist
20-06-2004, 05:54 PM
With all due respect Sir/Madam, this is advertising spam.
Suggest you repair elsewhere.
Gryffyn
20-06-2004, 06:26 PM
Hear hear.
David Renwick
20-06-2004, 08:26 PM
Kadempa via Bodh Gaya 4 me.:D
Halebop
20-06-2004, 11:50 PM
quote:Originally posted by ananda77
...After ten days I went back to work feeling as if I'd had a six-week holiday...
Hi Ananda,
I'm not sure of your motivation but if you are genuinely trying to help people good luck!
However, I think there are a number of people who come to this site (me in particular) who are more interested in NOT going back to work after 10 days.
An easier sell would be sharing details of Vipassana Meditation, S N Goenka and how our involvement would provide net returns to our portfolios?
As a question, how does Goenka reconcile being a successful businessman in Myanmar and attending international peace symposiums? A military dictatorship has controlled Myanmar for a considerable period of time. The wealthiest demographic in the country are the generals and colonels. Serious business is simply not conducted without their involvement.
ananda77
21-06-2004, 01:15 AM
Hi everyone!
Thank you very much for all contributions so far to the recently opened topic which are greatly appreciated.
S.N. Goenka became one of the wealthiest businessmen in Burma, but his business empire diappeared in a stroke when a new government nationalised all industries. It was his practice of Vipassana which allowed him to face this drastic reversal with equanimity. He began teaching Vipassana in 1969, relocating to India, where he regularly spent ten days teaching and twenty days working at his office in Bombay. For many years now he has devoted himself exclusively to teaching worldwide.
All information about the technique and the underlying principles can be found at http://www.executive.dhamma.org/.
The topic is suggested only to be an invitation for all of you to CONSIDER to take part in a truly unique experience.
Costs: There is no charge. Expenses for each course have already been met by donations from previous participants. Suitable accomodation, clean,comfortable private or semi-private rooms are provided as well as a supply of ample nourishing and tasty vegetarian food.
Vipassana is offered free from any commercial interest. No remuneration is given to teachers including Goenka or anyone helping to organize and conduct the courses. Voluntary donations are only accepted from students who have already finished one ten-day course and have an ACTUAL experience of its benefits.
My apologies to those who feel that this is an advertising spam. I can assure you that there is nothing in it for me.
I am involved like most of you in buying, selling, and holding shares.
Halebop
21-06-2004, 02:12 AM
A good answer on the Myanmar connection Ananda. I was not long ago involved with a business that was arranging a deal with a State owned Myanmar company and decided not to continue the relationship when researching their history. Speaking to one of the directors who is still pursuing the opportunity there: he says they have come to distrust the various "officials" they have dealt with and have also come to recognise the deal will not go through without a significant proportion of profits being set aside for "others". Read into that what you will.
A friend went to Myanmar on holiday a couple of years ago. The people and location were wonderful. He had to be attended by a "guide" at all times. The guide also nervously disclosed that the few palatial homes they passed here and there belonged to this general or that government offical. He had the impression right from the start that the armed forces are the biggest industry in town.
warthog
21-06-2004, 04:09 AM
quote:Originally posted by Halebop
A good answer on the Myanmar connection Ananda. I was not long ago involved with a business that was arranging a deal with a State owned Myanmar company and decided not to continue the relationship when researching their history. Speaking to one of the directors who is still pursuing the opportunity there: he says they have come to distrust the various "officials" they have dealt with and have also come to recognise the deal will not go through without a significant proportion of profits being set aside for "others". Read into that what you will.
A friend went to Myanmar on holiday a couple of years ago. The people and location were wonderful. He had to be attended by a "guide" at all times. The guide also nervously disclosed that the few palatial homes they passed here and there belonged to this general or that government offical. He had the impression right from the start that the armed forces are the biggest industry in town.
Myanmar, formerly Burma, is a corrupt and zany place that is full of 19th century thinking. While there I could not help but be amazed by the backwardness of the place.
It's run by a military junta who take astrological advice on what to do next. The writing, fortunately, is on the wall for Burma, which will have some sort of popular revolution, hopefully bloodless (relatively-speaking) within a decade or so.
Earlier if the international community gives more than a passing toss.
willy_wonker
21-06-2004, 09:48 AM
Is Vipassana Meditation doing a IPO?
:D
ananda77
21-06-2004, 12:05 PM
Hi everyone again and thanks for your participation!
A challenge for you:
Is it true that in our Western capitalist society, happiness is largely a measure of GDP-increases every year, which allows an ever-increasing accumulation of wealth at a personal level?
Would it be feasible to think of a Western capitalist society where people in leadership positions would need to act in ways designed to create ever-increasing levels of GDH (Gross Domestic Happiness)?
Please do not take it too seriously and have some fun with it.
willy_wonker
21-06-2004, 02:03 PM
Happiness is when your share price puts on 50-100% in a couple of months. :D
Well, I share my happiness by donating a small portion of that profit to charity. :)
ananda77
21-06-2004, 03:15 PM
quote:Originally posted by willy_wonker
Happiness is when your share price puts on 50-100% in a couple of months. :D
Well, I share my happiness by donating a small portion of that profit to charity. :)
[:o)]Wonderful, I absolutely agree and I also share my fortune.
The crunch lies in the reversal of that fortune. In that scenario are we still able to [8D]or are we going to be [xx(]?
Major von Tempsky
21-06-2004, 04:02 PM
Enuff Vapiss_in_a Medication.
See the happy moron as he smiles at his feet.
Time to get back to the sharemarket for a dose of reality.
zyreon
21-06-2004, 04:13 PM
cosmic
Gryffyn
21-06-2004, 05:43 PM
The sharemarket is hardly reality - just an averaging of perception ;)
willy_wonker
22-06-2004, 09:37 AM
quote:Originally posted by Gryffyn
The sharemarket is hardly reality - just an averaging of perception ;)
Oh, so true. All the PEs, EBITS, DIV..etc means nothing in the middle of the forest.
Halebop
22-06-2004, 09:48 AM
Hmmmm. So if a company crashes in the middle of a bear market and nobody is around, does it make a noise?
ananda77
22-06-2004, 11:04 AM
Good morning everybody and thanks for participating!
Hope you had a good start to the day.
Reality happens as a result of our five senses. In the mindshere reality starts with
cognizing,
evaluating,
and in the physical sphere continues as
feeling,
reacting,
Depending of how we evaluate reality, we feel pleasant or unpleasant sensation on the body and consequently react to those sensations with either graving or aversion.
The problem is that the mind/body interplay happens so fast that we hardly ever are able to be truly aware of it. Compounding the problems are the fact that NOTHING is PERMANENT and everything subject to change. As a result, we are constantly enslaved by our changing emotions in our attempts to seek as much pleasure and avoid as much pain as possible.
2500 years ago, one of the greatest human scientists -the BUDDHA- discovered and described this mind/body phenomenon in various texts and he also discovered and described in minute-detail a technique he called Vipassana(an old Pali word meaning: to see rality as it is, and not as we would like it to be).
The Vipassana technique enables human beings to discover, become aware of the chain of reality-creation by trainig the human mind to the extent to where this process can be experienced on an ACTUAL level by practising the Vipassana meditation. Of course, reality continues to happen, but by practising Vipassana, we are empowered to have ultimately control over the process.
Enumerate
22-06-2004, 11:25 AM
Another path to enlightenment is the application of ever greater computing power to increasingly large data sets ;)
Andrew
22-06-2004, 12:00 PM
Ive got nothing against Ananda, or the meditation thing. In fact they may be a good thing, but they remind me of the door to door jehovahs witness. If you start talking to them it never ends. Enough on this post.
THE KING says Willie next time when your in the money and feel like sending off to a good cause : send Cheques to THE KING c/-
Direct Brokers Wellington. They will make shore its passed on or any person in NZ who feels the same the collection will be most welcome.[8D][8D][8D]
Meditation in any form is fully ban in the USA. THE KING
ananda77
22-06-2004, 12:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by Andrew
Ive got nothing against Ananda, or the meditation thing. In fact they may be a good thing, but they remind me of the door to door jehovahs witness. If you start talking to them it never ends. Enough on this post.
Hi Andrew!
Ultimately, you can stop this Vipassana reality by not responding to it. Just ignore it and it will go away for you.
If enough people feel like that, who likes to talk to oneselve?
willy_wonker
22-06-2004, 01:38 PM
Sending donation to a broker? hahaha... what have you been smoking KING?
You a broker KING?
David Renwick
22-06-2004, 01:52 PM
Hello Andrew,
I'm sure many wld agree with you as this thread has no biz' being on this sharechat thread even if Ananda wants to extrapolate to the nth degree. I'll take a punt here and at my peril try to paraphrase the uber-libertarian Cap' and Ananda:
*This is a public forum and people can say whatever they like.
*Don't respond to what you perceive as "negative" behaviour, whether it's from a child throwing a tantrum or hearing what you don't like, and as Ananda wld say "it may go away."
Giving energy to it will make it grow.
This works for me Grasshopper.:)
willy_wonker
22-06-2004, 02:52 PM
Willy thinks Yoga and Meditation compliments good decision making. More relaxed to think clearly. Dont beat it until you have tried it.
Abit like chocolate on your ice cream. :)
ananda77
22-06-2004, 11:20 PM
Hi everybody!
Thank you David Renwick for taking the courages punt.
I admit, that the Vipassana thread is not directly linked and in no way helpful to convey information about the shares trading on the NZX.
As Enumerate mentions in his response, for matters of gathering information regarding enlightened trading in the market, "the application of ever greater computing power to increasingly large data sets" would be far more helpful.
However, since trading in the market involves a high degree of decision-making, we all thrive to make 'good decisions' and as Willy Wonker in his response mentions, "Yoga and Meditation compliments good decision making". Thank you Willy Wonker for your support. A clear and from the troubles of everyday life detached mind remains a vital ingredient to do successful sharetrading and sound business practice. Over the past few decades, Vipassana established itself as the fastest growing means to reach the goal for thousands of people.
The invitation of S.N. Goenka to the 'World Economic Forum' in Davos (Switzerland) in January 2000, to talk about Vipassana speaks for itself.
In my mind http://www.executive.dhamma.org/
[url]http://www.executive.dhamma.org/happiness.htm[url]
[url]http://www.executive.dhamma.org/anger.htm[url]
provide links well worth checking out.
This is going to be my last post on the subject for a while as I have enrolled in another Vipassana course in Kaukapakapa. [8D]
Cheers and thanks a million for your kind participation
spock
23-06-2004, 09:39 PM
Here is a link to a book I found useful. Nothing about sharetrading for those not interested.
http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/taste-freedom.pdf
It's pays to have a backup plan if all turns to crap. Which one you choose is your choice.
The point being that if your happiness is based on things that are inherently subject to change, is that happiness genuine?[8D]
Trade on.
craic
23-06-2004, 09:48 PM
"2500 years ago, one of the greatest human scientists -the BUDDHA- discovered"
If this is so How come he has such a cracking beer gut and a face just like Craig Norgate?
zyreon
23-06-2004, 10:56 PM
http://www.utah.edu/stc/tai-chi/stories.html
zen tales are short little stories and often are amusing.
often you will read it and laugh in a surprised or ...ah huh sort of way as they all aim to illustrate principles of conduct etc
Major von Tempsky
24-06-2004, 09:10 AM
Yippee! S.N. Goenka is going to the World Economic Forum at Davos!
I look forward to the headlines as he gets beaten up and fricaseed by wild eyed anarchists and left wingers in between all the usual window smashing and car burning. With any luck Al Qaeda will become interested as well. I wonder how easy it is to do Vapissana as you are being beheaded....
I was sorry to see Buddha had edged out Einstein, Newton, Hawking, Rutherford & as the world's greatest scientist....
Lucky old Kaukapakapa, what's it got that Taihape hasn't got?
Longtack
24-06-2004, 11:22 AM
Von Tempsky being as objective as ever I see. Dehydrate!
ananda77
24-06-2004, 12:58 PM
Welcome Major von Tempski and Craig!
This is an actual bubble chamber photograph of an antiproton (entering from the bottom of the picture) colliding with a proton (at rest) and annihilating. Eight pions were produced in this annihilation. One decayed into a + and a . The positive and negative pions curve different ways in the magnetic field.
The 'Bubble Chamber' was a 1952 invention by Mr. Donald Glaser. In 1960, Donald Arthur Glaser won the Nobel prize "for the invention of the bubble chambers". This discovery helped in understanding the interactions and decays of the elementary-particles. ...
In lay-speak: 'Bubble Chambers' proved that MATTER consists of sub-atomic particles rising and passing away with unbelievable speed.
2500 years ago, the Buddha called those sub-atomic particles Kalapas and stated that the whole physical universe is made up of sub-atomic particles which rise and pass away with incredible speed. Basic to Kalapas are the water,- solidity,- heat,- and air element. Buddha called tis discovery "the Law of Nature"... naturally it pertains to the mind/body phenomenon as well as any other physical entity/creation/structure in this universe.
One has to be very careful not to confuse the teachings of the Buddha with any religious teaching or beliefs in this god or that goddess (Goenka). The Buddha's teaching is solely concerned with explaining the Law of Nature and Vipassana provides the vehicle to discover this Law of Nature as it pertains to the mind/body phenomenon.
Lawso
24-06-2004, 12:58 PM
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ [|)] Still!
ananda77
24-06-2004, 01:02 PM
Sorry, picture did not work. Can someone explai how to do it?
Anyway here is the link http://pdg.web.cern.ch/pdg/cpep/bubble.html
Enumerate
24-06-2004, 03:51 PM
Atomic scale matter was postulated by the Greeks.
The sub-atomic nature of matter was proven by Rutherford.
The quark structure of matter was indicated by Murray Gell-Mann.
Matter does not "rise and pass away" - conservation of mass and energy are fundamental laws.
Buddah, nor anyone else thousands of years ago, did not describe the structure of matter in any way coherent with todays understanding.
Major von Tempsky
24-06-2004, 11:02 PM
Ah, Ananda old chap, you promised not to post any more and you have now posted twice since then. Does Buddha/Vapissana teach you to break promises?
When does the Kaukapakapa course actually start?
You'll need to concentrate hard then, no time for posting on Sharetrader (hint hint)...
ananda77
25-06-2004, 11:14 AM
Congratulation Major von Tempski!
You got me on that one and I am sorry. Wanted to leave early but did not work out. My bags are packed and I am ready to leave. Course starts tonight at 8 pm.
As I have said earlier in this post, if you do not like the Vipassana reality, do not respond to it. Otherwise you use petrol to try to extinguish the fire.
See you later and thanks for participating.
Gryffyn
25-06-2004, 12:37 PM
I do believe you promised your last post on this subject but seemed to have continued. Truth and honesty not a big part of the teachings then.
spock
25-06-2004, 04:04 PM
I promise that I may, or may not post on this thread again.
Gryffyn, I think you are right to some extent. Truth and honesty do not come to someone as soon as they make any decision. If one observes the movements of ones own mind without attaching to them certain traits in that person will develop as a consequence.
ananda77 sounds like a newbie in this area also, so looked at in this light the comment about him not posting seems somewhat trivial. Probably more trivial than relevent. Relevent in a different aspect than it seemed to be implied.
Not that I really give a toss, I just felt like repling.
Gryffyn
25-06-2004, 06:56 PM
Same here spock.
Capitalist
25-06-2004, 07:22 PM
:D Gryffyn. Probably high-fives all round at this retreat or whatever it is for the publicity this thread has afforded them. Three pages and 50+ replies. Who'd have thunk it! :D[:0]
Awryly
25-06-2004, 07:29 PM
Ananda 77 might have thunk it.
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