EIF

[bindi]

See the people who wanted out pre June 30 managed to sucker in hopefuls, what a crap stock this has proven to be, m/ment need a good kick in the backside, but then, they don,t give a rat,s ****, their wages are paid for doing stuff all, just how much longer can this woman, Cussen, keep her job ???, abject failure if you ask me, Jagen must be totally pissed off by now, so much for their 25c entry, but if I were them, I would shunt the lot of these losers, this company promised sooo much, and has delivered f/a, except six monthly placitudes, to prove that they really exist.

[davidrob]

Hi bindi,

yep, theyr'e are defintely some ****-holes out there, that's for sure....ESPECIALLY BROKERS...who are the true sharemarket investors Best enemy in 99% of cases. I despise non-independent sleazy predators masquarading as analysts and experts when the truth is they would not know the bum of an elephant in my humble opinion.

Actually, re EIF....they(being some stupid greed hog no morals looney tune Brokers rang me up last week, about this crock of sh#@*&%#@ --called EIF--and the brokers actually had the sheer audacity to try and get ME.... of all people to "invest"(throw money into the toilet...) with this heap of crap!!

Then the Broker concerned; told me that he had put his hard earned on it....so I am now v. seriously (just for fun)considering subponaeing him under "discovery" LAW to see if this is true or not. True; my fat ****!! It's very almost reportable to ASIC... IMO; and this sort of conspiracy driven bullsh#@!@#%&*# does hurt a lot of very nice and plain good and genuine folk; when brokers try to get themselves;... and their mates... out of losing trades...by ramping up sh*&%#@#@#* onto easy picking trusting mum and dad, and other unsuspecting investors.:(:(

Also... watch out BINDI.... as the market gets a bit silly...if it keeps reaching new highs... on anyone AT ALL ... luring you into the Innaminkas, bio-techs, IPO's; oil stories, gold stories, and anything else the snake oil crowd manage to dredge up from their loss making cess pit...I mean look at shares like Beach Petroleum and some of the Western Aussie gold explorers like HEG and GDN.. ALL crap, and more crap...

Also; while I remember Bindi, do steer clear, in my opinion, on any "smart card" technology--like the GPO's(Satellite positoning), the BQT's the ERG's etc...lots of promises and air filled crap hopes, that you kick yourself for...if you ever get the "greed bug" and get suckered by the stories floating around out there. They usually burn cash very quickly, and subsequently always need to dilute their investors/suckers shares by going back to the market for special capital raisings, otherwise they would be insolvent and stony cold bankrupt/ broke...

Basically bindi, the sharemarket can be extremely REWARDING, and highly steadilly profitable if, in my opinion, you only invest in the best of the best of very very best and stick to 2 or 3, maybe 4 MAX companies maximum.By definition the BEST of the BEST ; that are available; at truly remarkable BARGAIN DISCOUNT intrinsic Value PRICES---that are assessable by "us" on the outside--wil be limited. These diamond golden opportunity shares will only ever be, but a small countable on one hand...handful...

Also, in my opinion, Shares in actual real businesses' with strong and growing revenue and profit... worthy of you allocating YOUR precious wages and savings simply MUST MUST fit definite criteria, to be worthy of your very hard fought for... hard won earnings and savings. Bindi, do always Say a definite and resounding big No No... to 99 out of 100... before hitting 1 out of the ballpark!! Only consider shares with Premium high achievement "runs on the board"..re. earnings, revenue, profits etc... Shares need to be, shares of up and running very successful business operations...not just some lunatics hopes and aspirations....They need to be companies actually making and doing tangible very profitable things with YOUR capital/money...

Therefore to qualify for the priviilege and right to have YOUR money, they must have earned...by historical demonstration over 2-3 years minimum.... the right for you to give them your dough. So as a bare minimum, relevant co's must have 2... and preferably 3 years of solid earnings growth--(EPSG) of over 15%, Return on Capital (ROE) of at least 25% plus, Profit margins must be minimum 9-10% +(very important for highish SUSTAINABLE profits-- where this premium pricing can be maintained and at the very least 9% (year on Year);AND ALSO a adjusted profit which is growing over an average of at least 3 years of at the least; 12%

[marinesalvor]

and robbo - what company specific research have you done on EIF??
or do you just rant away on a weekend because you have nothing better to do

[davidrob]

Dearest marinesalvor from estonia,

No point getting stroppy darling.
and err where's your valuable insightful contribution pray tell. Am waiting, oh know all wise one....

Ranting Regards !! ,

Robbo:D[8D]:)[:p]


quote:Originally posted by marinesalvor

and robbo - what company specific research have you done on EIF??
or do you just rant away on a weekend because you have nothing better to do

[KD]

quote:Also; while I remember Bindi, do steer clear, in my opinion, on any "smart card" technology--like the GPO's(Satellite positoning), the BQT's the ERG's etc...lots of promises and air filled crap hopes, that you kick yourself for...if you ever get the "greed bug" and get suckered by the stories floating around out there. They usually burn cash very quickly, and subsequently always need to dilute their investors/suckers shares by going back to the market for special capital raisings, otherwise they would be insolvent and stony cold bankrupt/ broke...

Hi Robbo - I ventured onto this thread simply because I like reading your posts and support you've given under other posts...but fair dinkum mate - what's going on here[?] There seems to be a big disconnect between your postings under "BQT Solutions--BQT" and what you are saying here . Above is probably sound advice and sits pretty well with Buffetology. What you describe above is a company that one would want to hold forever and I'm all for that, but I'm not against a specy techy like BQT either. Not meaning to be critical but would like some clarification:).

cheers

KD

[marinesalvor]

Rob - go off and read all the other threads on EIF - you will find plenty of things that will educate you... ie science and business - both of which you dont seem to grasp

[thekiwi]

quote:Originally posted by marinesalvor

Rob - go off and read all the other threads on EIF - you will find plenty of things that will educate you... ie science and business - both of which you dont seem to grasp

Guys ... if you want to talk to each other in this manner, please do so offline.
MarineSalvor, we can well do without that sort of indifferent mud slinging so much a characteristic of other boards. If you have an axe to grind send an Email. If you disagree with a posting, do so ... but keep it civil.

[marinesalvor]

good one kiwi - I just believe that if you are going to slag off a company (as he did for a page) you should actually use facts, evidence, logic and at least some words of relevance to the company - re-read his post - then come back to me

[thekiwi]

quote:Originally posted by marinesalvor

good one kiwi - I just believe that if you are going to slag off a company (as he did for a page) you should actually use facts, evidence, logic and at least some words of relevance to the company - re-read his post - then come back to me



Dont have a problem with that. He bagged the company, you bagged him. See the difference.

I personally dont care what people say about stocks I hold. THe reason I hold them is to make my capital increase. The moment the stock stops contributing to that, I sell. If someone doesn't like certain particulars about a company I hold ... big deal ... they dont write the cheques for me.

[marinesalvor]

read it and weep boy - I bagged his lack of facts

[thekiwi]

quote:Originally posted by marinesalvor

read it and weep boy - I bagged his lack of facts


Of course you did ....

quote:
ie science and business - both of which you dont seem to grasp



quote:
do you just rant away on a weekend because you have nothing better to do


In todays society where anonymous postings via the internet are common, we seem to, as a whole, forgotten that the person at the end is exactly that .. a person with a Mum and Dad, maybe kids ... and maybe hurts, feelings and yes .. limitations.
Its just so sad that we are increasingly divorcing ourselves from the reality of human interaction.
Sure .. debate is great .. but plain simple "you mother is a %^$#*&", or "you obviously lack ...." shows, what I feel, is a lack of respect, courtesy and plain common decency.
Here end my involvement ... time to get ready to invest [8D]

[davidrob]

Hi guys,

Good point KD re BQT. With that share--I admit I WAS WRONG, AND KICKED myself, and my own stupidity for investing/speculating outside my own internal fundamental intrinsic guidelines.

Re.my "strong reaction" with EIF.... I was probably a bit sore bec. a technical chartist broker very nearly persuaded me to invest $25 000 --but fortuntately I did not, proceed as I would have lost approx 40% of that already by now. On reflection, I am more sore with brokers and "spruikers" --maybe even than EIF itself, although the share-price performance of EIF does look very dismal indeed....

Re. my message to Bindy---I was trying to EMPATHIZE with her---for I read her post,(possibly incorrectly ??); as having maybe lost some hard earned money--and not being happy with the reality of the share's(EIF) performance---, with the EIF announcements on the ASX not living up to expectactions/reality??--....and the seeming mismatch b/w the six monthly announcements/promises by the co. and the share's decline in value....as quoted on the 'bourse.

Re. marinesalvor..reply to my posting....Yes I did take being accused of "ranting" and having "nothing better to do on the weekends" personally---and a bit uncalled for....especially for such a sensitive and mild mannered soul as I....in fact re. EIF...I was specifically addressing Bindy's issues as raised in her posting and was commenting on shaers that fit the EIF generic profile of being inherrantly speccy(like BQT !!), but I only referred to my personal view/opinion; of such announcements/"promises" made by speculative companies, and made NO reference to anyones personal failings and/or attributes; and/or writing style... of any particular Sharetrader contributor/s-- Yes, I did find marinesalvors tone and comments insensitive, and personally quite unnecessarilly personal in a negative sense, and did read them as being provocative, disrrespectful and needlessly inflamatory.

Please marinesalvor, or anyone else, do anytime feel perfectly free to attack my comments on my analysis/"take" of a listed companies future prospects,it's fundamentals, current actual situation, current valuation or my espoused Investment philosophies,... or like KD has very legitametly done, re. my inconsistency/stupidity with BQT--where I have been irrationally inconsistent--with my own stated investment criteria(excellent and extremely fair enough point well taken KD )--but I do certainly not approve, and take a certain umbrage with personal slagging off and appearing to be "playing the man"--rather than "playing the ball"---

Marinesalvor, I think you were rather out of range there--but I still love you,you know that!!:):D... and let us now totally forgive and forget, and be good friends.We should all be just really genuinely trying, to help each other; make good Investment decisions; and to further the cause of choosing stocks wisely, for the enrichment of all subscribers...

The aim of the exercize, after all, is to help one another... that our capital may grow, and we have more discretionary Income and wealth to spend on ourselves, and those who are important to us...

So marinesalvor, let us shake hands, be friends and respect each others opinions, and be cool, and I genuinely hope, marinesalvor, that your Share Investing is very very successful for yourself, over the weeks, months and years ahead,

Kindest regards to everyone,

Robbo.


quote:Originally posted by thekiwi

[quote]quote:Originally posted by marinesalvor

read it and weep boy - I bagged his lack of facts


Of course you did ....
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[KD]

Kiwi - well said - this is a great site ....and Robbo, it's great you feel free enough to have a rant - so as the waters calm down - lets get down to business!;)[8D]

[Mr Murphy]

6 August 2004

To: Announcements Section ASX
Company: Australian Stock Exchange

$3.0m Placement to Accelerate Commercial Development

The directors of drug re-engineering company Eiffel Technologies Limited (ASX:EIF) today announced the placement of 36,363,637 fully paid ordinary shares at a price of 8.25 cents per share, raising $3.0 million. Approximately 8.6m shares will be subject to
approval at an extraordinary general meeting of shareholders, which will be held as soon as possible. The balance, of approximately 14% of the company’s capital, will be issued immediately. The placement was managed by Intersuisse Corporate and supported by
existing shareholders and new institutional investors.
The funds raised will be used to accelerate the commercial development of the business and to pursue corporate opportunities. Over the next 12 to 18 months, Eiffel aims to:

• Secure further commercial agreements for its collaborative non-injectable insulin
projects.
• Commence the manufacture of pharmaceutical products for collaborative
agreements.
• Screen a further 8 re-engineered drugs per year, of which three are expected to
progress to pre-clinical trials and one to go on to clinical trials.
• Commence pre-clinical studies on the most promising in-house development
drugs by Q1 2005 with the objective of having one in a clinical trial by early 2006.
• Lodge three additional patent applications by year-end.
• Explore the potential to acquire additional re-engineering technology platforms and/or complementary drug delivery technologies.

Shame they have priced the shares at 8.25 cents as that is now what the market will price these shares at but apart from that looks like they are moving in the right direction. They must have to announce if they have a deal with an overseas company as part of their listing rules but have not seen any announcements. Either they have not announced them yet and there will be some comoing or ......

Happy to hang on for the ride with this one though, could be big things come out of this little baby.

Cheers
Murph

[Mr Murphy]

Latest announcement, topped out at 9.1c and ended the day at 8.1c:

Eiffel Signs Lucrative Asthma Development Agreement

• Achievement of project milestones will deliver approx $1 million to
Eiffel over 18 months
• Potential to lead to multi million dollar licensing/supply agreement

Eiffel Technologies Limited (ASX: EIF) announced today that it has signed an agreement with a US-based specialty pharmaceutical company to develop an improved asthma treatment utilising Eiffel’s re-engineered drugs and the unnamed partner’s delivery device.
Eiffel is due to receive an upfront payment of US$150,000 and will receive total payments of the order of A$1 million over the next 18 months upon successful completion of project milestones. The agreement also provides for a potential multi million dollar licensing and supply agreement at the conclusion of the initial development program.

Eiffel will provide an asthma drug re-engineered using its proprietary Supercritical Fluid
(SCF) technology for use in a novel inhalation device. The objectives of the initial research program are to develop an effective and stable formulation, scale up the production process and produce materials to support clinical trials.

Eiffel Managing Director Christine Cussen said, “This is another very positive and significant step for Eiffel. The agreement with a leading inhaled drug delivery company is further endorsement of our drug re-engineering technology and in particular its application in the large and growing asthma treatment market. The near term revenue from successfully achieving our project development milestones will be substantial while the longer term earnings if we proceed to a licensing and supply agreement could be huge for us.”

The US company, which can’t be named for commercial reasons, is developing innovative therapies and inhalation delivery technologies to treat a broad spectrum of respiratory and systemic diseases.

Cheers
Murph

[Mr Murphy]

Eiffel to Work With Big Pharma on Improving Two Drugs

• Feasibility study with one of world’s largest pharmaceutical companies
• To assess potential for Eiffel’s re-engineering technology to improve performance of an on-market drug and one in development

Eiffel Technologies Limited (ASX: EIF) announced today that it has signed a Material
Transfer Agreement with an undisclosed major international pharmaceutical company to evaluate the potential for Eiffel’s drug re-engineering technology to improve the performance of two of the pharmaceutical company’s drugs. The two drugs, one a product already on the market and the other still in development, are both administered orally.

The feasibility study is designed to assess the application of Eiffel’s proprietary
Supercritical Fluid (SCF) processing technology to modify the physical forms of two distinct active ingredients. Re-engineered compound will be tested for improved dissolution and stability characteristics. Eiffel will supply material to the pharmaceutical company, which can further evaluate the material for in vivo performance

Eiffel Managing Director Christine Cussen said, “This is clearly a very exciting opportunity for Eiffel to showcase our re-engineering technology to one of the world’s largest pharmaceutical companies. Working alongside one of the industry’s heaviest hitters will position Eiffel well for similar collaborations in the future.”

The project is expected to be completed in approximately six months.
ENDS

[Mr Murphy]

Eiffel Meets First Milestone on Development Agreement Eiffel

Technologies Limited (ASX: EIF) announce today that it has met the first project milestone of a collaborative development agreement previously announced on 22 November 2004. Achievement of this milestone has triggered a milestone payment of $US50,000 bringing the total revenue for the project thus far to $US200,000.

Eiffel has established the feasibility of applying its technology to the production of a particulate preparation with physical properties that may bring about measurable benefits to product performance and stability.

Following on from this first stage success, the focus of the project will now shift to development of the process, and further product formulation, in order to achieve readiness to support potential clinical trials.

Eiffel also announces today that it has completed a second feasibility study previously announced on 28 February 2005. The results of the study partially met technical objectives, and have led to further discussions with the client about other ways in which the technology can be applied to the compound.

In addition to these developments, and as part of the cost reduction program announced in February 2005, cost base reductions of over 40% are expected to be achieved from July 2005, when compared to actual costs at the half year ended 31 December 2004. Furthermore, in accordance with the business’ previously stated need for additional capital the Board is currently assessing the Company’s funding requirements in the context of ongoing collaborations, research and development requirements and potential future partnerships.

Murph