UK Election

Interesting times in the UK.
It's been a long, long way back for Labour in the UK. The SNP debacle could be the tipping point.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...on-rishi-sunak

The damage is done.

Interesting to ponder whether, if labour had a half-decent candidate before Kier (instead of the Ed duo and then Corbyn), they might have won as soon as 2015.

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Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-

The damage is done.

Interesting to ponder whether, if labour had a half-decent candidate before Kier (instead of the Ed duo and then Corbyn), they might have won as soon as 2015.

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Both US and UK politics seem to be a toxic and barren landscape at the moment.

This last Right Wing UK govt must have been the most destructive not only economically, but socially too. Divisive European policy; divisive social policy. Northern Ireland used and then ignored for Conservative ideological purposes. The Brexit lies from some Conservative leaders are so far entrenched with the electorate, that Labour is too scared to deviate much from them.

They were going to rebuild the british empire after Brexit and return to the glory days.

At least we (and particularly Australia) got a good deal from it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austra...rade_Agreement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Ze...rade_Agreement

Helped in part by having an NZer on the UK "negotiating team" :p

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Eustice was particularly critical of one other person involved, Crawford Falconer, the New Zealand-born interim permanent secretary of the Department of International Trade (DIT): "His approach always was to internalise Australian demands, often when they were against UK interests, his advice was invariably to retreat and make fresh concessions and all the while he resented people who understood technical issues greater than he did." Eustice said Falconer should be replaced with "somebody who understands British interests better than I think he's been able to."

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Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-

Helped in part by having an NZer on the UK "negotiating team" :p

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You’d think he would resist Aussie demands, being a Kiwi!

I wonder why the Brits would think they would be good at negotiations, when the EU had been doing trade negotiations on behalf of the UK, and all member states, for so long. Unrealistic expectations!