If anybody interested on the troubles Serco are working through this is a good read. Long but it is the weekend
http://www.theguardian.com/business/...P=share_btn_tw
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If anybody interested on the troubles Serco are working through this is a good read. Long but it is the weekend
http://www.theguardian.com/business/...P=share_btn_tw
Hi EZ, this is a bit thick coming from you. Which of my allegations do you think is without substance? and hey, you said "again", i.e. there must be more than one allegation without substance ...? You should give me at least an opportunity to deliver the evidence (even if I am sure you won't like it). What allegations exactly are you referring to?
EZ, is Labour still predistribution on their agenda and using those ideas as the foundation of their policies or did that go out the window with Cunliffe
CT have some leanings that way - maybe the Nats will start thinking that way now
W69, I'm not sure what you mean, is that pro-distribution of.. something?
However I see John Key has moved to take some Labour policy ideas about immigration into the regions. All carefully worded in the media interview:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/politi...on-rule-change
So while they're bereft of good ideas, they've taken some Labour policies and used them, and simultaneously they are placing some controls on immigration. Then at the end of the interview he's cunning enough to suggest that they still want an open policy on immigration and open markets, and that Labour don't seem to know what their policies are at the moment. Yes, John, we all believe you. Every word.
The only trouble is, this type of policy to move new people into the regions to presumably start up businesses, has come at the very time the locals are cutting back on staff and paring back their costs to weather a big downturn. This bandaid policy would have been better, if it was done a couple of years ago.
An economist formerly from the Reserve Bank was on The Nation this morning, saying that it only takes a 1% population increase in NZ to add 10% to property prices (I assume that's in Auckland, or worse in Auckland). So while the National govt's response to housing prices is to do a snapshot of ownership in October(not a register, which would be updated), it's still going to be very interesting to see the data.
I was speaking to a guy who has two tertiary qualifications today, very briefly he mentioned the leaked house buyer data, and implied the data was rubbish, done solely on surnames. Again, he never saw the data, was only going on what he'd read in the press, and being a National/Act sort of voter, that was good enough for him. You can see where this is going. Labour do need to get the public to be a bit more informed, but that takes money.
EZ
Wiki definition - Pre-distribution is the idea that the state should try to prevent inequalities occurring in the first place rather than ameliorating inequalities through the tax and benefits system once they have occurred as occurs under redistribution.
Brainchild of a Yale professor
Cunliffe liked the concept and did talk about it.
Conservative introduction of a National Living Wage in the recent UK budget was predistribution in action. Very poignant as Miliband was seen as a dork talking predistribution before the election.
Seems a pattern here - Conservative/National 'stealing' Labour ideas.
OK, thanks for that W69. I would guess that in some cases you could predict the results from putting effort in at the front end, like a liveable minimum wage, but in other situations you'd need to be there at the end to tidy up. Which is surely what we have now, a series of policies tested over time. While National make a show of being polite to the masses, they also clamp down hard in certain areas too.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/politi...,-sole-parents
BP, confusion reigns again I see. Common theme on this thread.
I never said YOU questioned the union movement. However I'm glad to see you think they have their place as long as they don't have control. I probably agree with that, although I'm not sure that's how I would term it & I think their needs to be a balance and at the moment the balance has swung too far in favour of business, with the likes of zero hour contracts, threats to smoko breaks and more recently watering down safety standards for small business the biggest employer in NZ.
How can you used to be a Greenie? You are confusing the Green party with being a Greenie. A Greenie is someone who shows concern for the environment or actively supporting and promoting protection of the environment. Obviously Green party members are Greenies, but you can be a Greenie without being a supporter of the Green party. I am one of those. Easy to confuse the two as unfortunately environmental policy is owned by the left, whereas it should be a priority for all parties, as the environment is what we all depend on to survive and surely even the short sighted National party can see of you crap in your own backyard it will cost you in the long run. This is a major area of policy failure for National and one of the first reasons that turned me against them when returning to NZ. Seeing their promotion of mining & fossil fuel exploration & at the same time cutting funding to DOC. Disgraceful.
BP, for someone who doesn't believe emissions which is a, if not the major issue in regards man made climate change, I think you may failed Greenie 101 and perhaps could never call yourself a Greenie in the true sense of the term. However any concern for the environment and its protection is certainly a positive.
That's certainly what it looks like.
Here is a short version of Labour's immigration policy at the 2014 elections, one of the policies no-one looked at. Seems a bit like National's 'new idea for the regions'.
http://campaign.labour.org.nz/immigration