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    Default Mortgage Rate hits 60 year low - What does that mean to you ?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11487606

    I logged on to internet banking this morning and got a real surprise. Surely not !! 4.69% fixed for 2 years. I racked my early 50's year old brain, barely functioning first thing in the morning after only one coffee and despite all the rusty cogs only just starting to work for the week, I was pretty sure I'd never seen a rate this low in all my life and sure enough, it turns out I haven't.

    Does this mean you'll spend more though or maybe gear up to make leveraged market investments ?
    Curious what this means to you folks ?

    Seems to me rates could go even lower, could it even be possible we'll see 3.99% by the end of this year ?

    Surely at that sort of rate there's some mileage in taking a moderatly geared position to invest more in high dividend yield shares or are you a crusty old GFC survivor that's getting old and conservative like me and extremly reluctant to take a geared position in the market ?

    Thoughts folks ?

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    I had a 2nd mortgage at 27.5% once with 1st mortgage over 20% and that was 'mates rates' from a super fund.

    A 4% mortgage - unbelievable ......and the young still moan and complain
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    By Countries/By Banks
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    Switzerland+Follow 0.4% 40,484 8,183,800 1.04% - CHF Jun 2015
    United Kingdom+Follow 2% 34,388 64,105,654 1.07% - GBP Jul 2015
    Taiwan+Follow 1.6% 31,776 23,410,280 1.88% ~ 3.38% - TWD Jul 2015
    Netherlands+Follow 2.3% 39,877 16,876,800 1.90% - EUR Jul 2015
    Sweden+Follow 2.5% 35,951 9,728,498 1.97% - SEK Jul 2015
    Hong Kong+Follow 5% 45,277* 7,234,800 2.15% - HKD Jul 2015
    Canada+Follow 2.8% 37,947 35,540,419 2.19% - CAD Jul 2015
    Norway+Follow 1.9% 53,471 5,156,450 2.40% - NOK Jul 2015
    Singapore+Follow 4.6% 50,180 5,469,700 2.5% - SGD Jul 2015
    Slovenia+Follow 27,900 2,064,647 2.50% - EUR Jul 2015
    United States+Follow 1.5% 45,934 319,094,000 2.50% - USD Jul 2015
    Slovakia+Follow 3.9% 7,325 5,415,949 2.84% - EUR Jul 2015
    Germany+Follow 2.2% 34,388 80,767,000 3.28% - EUR Jul 2015
    Ireland+Follow 2.4% 38,685 4,609,600 3.50% - EUR Jul 2015
    Chile+Follow 3.3% 15,002 17,819,054 3.60% - 5.10% CLP Jul 2015
    Poland+Follow 4% 18,837* 38,496,000 4.05% - PLN Jul 2015
    Australia+Follow 3.4% 38,663 23,665,600 4.09% - AUD Jul 2015
    Austria+Follow 3.3% 39,634 8,527,230 4.3% - EUR Jul 2015
    Qatar+Follow 2.8% 78,260 2,187,326 4.35% - QAR Jul 2015
    China+Follow 5.4% 6,778 1,367,900,000 4.50% - RMB Jul 2015
    Fiji+Follow 8.6% 4,366 859,178 4.50% - FJD Jul 2015
    Panama+Follow 5.9% 14,097 3,713,312 4.75% USD Jul 2015
    New Zealand+Follow 4.5% 26,670 4,541,340 4.95% NZD Jul 2015
    Greece+Follow 2.9% 29,663 10,992,589 5.25% - EUR Jul 2015
    Bulgaria+Follow 4.2% 13,789 7,245,677 5.80% - BGN Jul 2015
    Philippines+Follow 5.3% 3,546 100,553,900 6.00% - PHP Jul 2015
    Vietnam+Follow 18.9% 2,942 89,708,900 6.49% - VND Jul 2015
    Bosnia+Follow 8,127 3,791,622 7.85% - BAM Jul 2015
    Bahamas+Follow 1.8% 31,324 368,390 9.00% - 10.5% - BSD Jul 2015
    Nepal+Follow 8.3% 1,200 27,646,053 9.00% - 10.50% - NPR Jul 2015
    South Africa+Follow 5% 10,229 54,002,000 9.25% - ZAR Jul 2015
    Jamaica+Follow 9.4% 9,029 2,717,991 9.50% - JMD Jul 2015
    Solomon Islands+Follow 3,345 581,344 9.95% - SBD Jul 2015
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    I had a 1st at 23.5%, in the late 80's/early 90's but the house only cost 425k. Servicing was actually quite comfy at around 30% or so of income, but int only IIRC

    the youngish might get it at 4.69, but they need to pass a stress test of a notional 7+ don't they? If they don't, they should! When rates go back up, the fireworks begin......

    And the equivalent price today of my property then would be well over a mill. salaries ain't that much higher either, really

    Roger, re leverage - crusty old survivor of 87 and 08. Have only leveraged FX with limited success, but wouldn't bother on equities

    so, means nothing to me except lousy savings rates for surplus cash
    Last edited by Xerof; 27-07-2015 at 08:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIRMANBOY View Post
    early days.......
    Mortgage Rates by Country

    All TypesAuto LoanAuto LoansCar LoanEducation LoanEquity LoanFixedGold LoanHome LoanHousing LoanLoanMortgageMortgage LoanPersonal LoanPersonal LoansSecuredStudent LoanVariableHome Loan






    Highest Rates by all banksLowest Rates by all banksBest Rates by oldest BanksBest Rates by largest Banks

    By Countries/By Banks
    Country Inflation GDP Population Interest Rate Change Currency Last Updated
    Switzerland+Follow 0.4% 40,484 8,183,800 1.04% - CHF Jun 2015
    United Kingdom+Follow 2% 34,388 64,105,654 1.07% - GBP Jul 2015
    Taiwan+Follow 1.6% 31,776 23,410,280 1.88% ~ 3.38% - TWD Jul 2015
    Netherlands+Follow 2.3% 39,877 16,876,800 1.90% - EUR Jul 2015
    Sweden+Follow 2.5% 35,951 9,728,498 1.97% - SEK Jul 2015
    Hong Kong+Follow 5% 45,277* 7,234,800 2.15% - HKD Jul 2015
    Canada+Follow 2.8% 37,947 35,540,419 2.19% - CAD Jul 2015
    Norway+Follow 1.9% 53,471 5,156,450 2.40% - NOK Jul 2015
    Singapore+Follow 4.6% 50,180 5,469,700 2.5% - SGD Jul 2015
    Slovenia+Follow 27,900 2,064,647 2.50% - EUR Jul 2015
    United States+Follow 1.5% 45,934 319,094,000 2.50% - USD Jul 2015
    Slovakia+Follow 3.9% 7,325 5,415,949 2.84% - EUR Jul 2015
    Germany+Follow 2.2% 34,388 80,767,000 3.28% - EUR Jul 2015
    Ireland+Follow 2.4% 38,685 4,609,600 3.50% - EUR Jul 2015
    Chile+Follow 3.3% 15,002 17,819,054 3.60% - 5.10% CLP Jul 2015
    Poland+Follow 4% 18,837* 38,496,000 4.05% - PLN Jul 2015
    Australia+Follow 3.4% 38,663 23,665,600 4.09% - AUD Jul 2015
    Austria+Follow 3.3% 39,634 8,527,230 4.3% - EUR Jul 2015
    Qatar+Follow 2.8% 78,260 2,187,326 4.35% - QAR Jul 2015
    China+Follow 5.4% 6,778 1,367,900,000 4.50% - RMB Jul 2015
    Fiji+Follow 8.6% 4,366 859,178 4.50% - FJD Jul 2015
    Panama+Follow 5.9% 14,097 3,713,312 4.75% USD Jul 2015
    New Zealand+Follow 4.5% 26,670 4,541,340 4.95% NZD Jul 2015
    Greece+Follow 2.9% 29,663 10,992,589 5.25% - EUR Jul 2015
    Bulgaria+Follow 4.2% 13,789 7,245,677 5.80% - BGN Jul 2015
    Philippines+Follow 5.3% 3,546 100,553,900 6.00% - PHP Jul 2015
    Vietnam+Follow 18.9% 2,942 89,708,900 6.49% - VND Jul 2015
    Bosnia+Follow 8,127 3,791,622 7.85% - BAM Jul 2015
    Bahamas+Follow 1.8% 31,324 368,390 9.00% - 10.5% - BSD Jul 2015
    Nepal+Follow 8.3% 1,200 27,646,053 9.00% - 10.50% - NPR Jul 2015
    South Africa+Follow 5% 10,229 54,002,000 9.25% - ZAR Jul 2015
    Jamaica+Follow 9.4% 9,029 2,717,991 9.50% - JMD Jul 2015
    Solomon Islands+Follow 3,345 581,344 9.95% - SBD Jul 2015
    Georgia+Follow -0.5% 6,145 4,490,500 10.25% - GEL Jun 2015
    Malaysia+Follow 3.3% 13,800 30,401,400 10.50% - MYR Jul 2015
    Indonesia+Follow 5.7% 4,151 252,164,800 11.00% - IDR Jul 2015
    Maldives+Follow 9,173 341,848 11.00% - MVR Jul 2015
    Sri Lanka+Follow 7.7% 5,220 20,277,597 11.00%-12.50% - LKR Jul 2015
    India+Follow 6.8% 3,275 1,262,530,000 11.75% - INR Jul 2015
    Thailand+Follow 4.1% 8,051 64,871,000 12.00% - THB Jul 2015
    Bangladesh+Follow 10.7% 1,565 157,322,000 13.00% - BDT Jul 2015
    Russia+Follow 8.9% 14,913 146,149,200 14.25% - RUB May 2015
    Turkey+Follow 7.8% 13,905 76,667,864 15.48% TRY Jul 2015
    Zimbabwe+Follow 8.3% 559 13,061,239 18.50% - USD Jul 2015
    Ukraine+Follow 9% 6,665* 42,977,367 22.30% - UAH Jul 2015
    From tradingeconomics
    New Zealand Inflation Rate 1918-2015 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast
    The inflation rate in New Zealand was recorded at 0.30 percent in the second quarter of 2015. Inflation Rate in New Zealand averaged 4.80 percent from 1918 until 2015, reaching an all time high of 44 percent in the third quarter of 1918 and a record low of -15.30 percent in the first quarter of 1923. Inflation Rate in New Zealand is reported by the Statistics New Zealand.
    But now 2% for tradeable goods
    So shouldn't interest rates should be more like 2.5 % ?
    Maybe time to borrow more and let the dividends pay the interest bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerof View Post
    I had a 1st at 23.5%, in the late 80's/early 90's but the house only cost 425k. Servicing was actually quite comfy at around 30% or so of income, but int only IIRC

    the youngish might get it at 4.69, but they need to pass a stress test of a notional 7+ don't they? If they don't, they should! When rates go back up, the fireworks begin......

    And the equivalent price today of my property then would be well over a mill. salaries ain't that much higher either, really

    Roger, re leverage - crusty old survivor of 87 and 08. Have only leveraged FX with limited success, but wouldn't bother on equities

    so, means nothing to me except lousy savings rates for surplus cash
    Yeah me too mate but 3.99% fixed for 5 years might have me re-thinking my investment strategy a bit.

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    What does it mean for me? It means I am a bit annoyed I locked in a portion of my loan about 6 months ago. And annoyed that they still charge such a high margin on float rates. Both in the high 5s while people are sub 5% annoys me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harvey Specter View Post
    What does it mean for me? It means I am a bit annoyed I locked in a portion of my loan about 6 months ago. And annoyed that they still charge such a high margin on float rates. Both in the high 5s while people are sub 5% annoys me.
    And I'm a bit annoyed because it means less interest income for me from the cash part of my portfolio and a greater incentive to top up on dividend-paying equities!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    Yeah me too mate but 3.99% fixed for 5 years might have me re-thinking my investment strategy a bit.
    I think you have answered your original question !! I would think many will be thinking along similar lines as we have many stocks on the NZX that pay steady ad fairly safe dividends well above that rate

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    Its also nerve wrecking if your mortgage fixed term is ending soon and you know the rates are going to drop further but the floating is way too high to leave it on there and the fixed is good for a 1 year+. Anyone neg. with their bank for a sub 5 for 6mths? If so, which bank?

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