Wellington's Mayoral Drunk

[LEMON]

That's ridiculous. Quite obviously, most people will continue their lives never speaking Te Reo, if indeed they have even heard of it!

That's fine though, my point still stands, how does that give you the right to dismiss and belittle an entire race and culture, just because you disagree with Labour Party and the media?

[fungus pudding]

That's fine though, my point still stands, how does that give you the right to dismiss and belittle an entire race and culture, just because you disagree with Labour Party and the media?

That wasn't your point; which was most people will continue speaking te reo. I can't be bothered working out the percentage of people who speak te reo, but it's maybe 500 of the world's 8 billion, and maybe another 500 who can but don't.

[LEMON]

That wasn't your point; which was most people will continue speaking te reo. I can't be bothered working out the percentage of people speaking te reo, but it's maybe 500 of the world's 8 billion, and maybe another 500 who can but don't.

That's always been my point here, on the elections page. Te Reo was the fundamentals of the argument and Maorification as balance would say, you say media is "shoving it down our throats" I agreed this is maybe not good, if that was the objective from the media when people felt uncomfortable. You lot proceed to see it as a way to put down Maori culture, calling it primitive and having no place in your ideal NZ, I disagree, I think that's a pathetic stance for people who are scared of anything that is different to them

I ain't a Cindy voter, or "woke" so you'll need to try harder than just say you "lefty" as that to, would be inaccurate

[Logen Ninefingers]

LEMON is just here to call everyone a racist if they aren’t onboard with the separatist agenda. Stating the truth about the Treaty of Waitangi doesn’t make anyone a racist. If it did, Sir Apirana Ngata himself would be a racist. We should all heed his words:


Article the First
———————
These are the words of the first article of the Treaty of Waitangi:

‘The Chiefs assembled including Chiefs not present at the assembly hereby cede absolutely to the Queen of England for ever the Government of all of their lands’

“These are but a few words but they indicate a complete cession. This was the transfer by the Maori Chiefs to the Queen of England for ever of the Government of all their lands. What was the thing they transferred? What was the thing which they gave away so freely for ever? It was the Government of their lands.”

[Bjauck]

LEMON is just here to call everyone a racist if they aren’t onboard with the separatist agenda. Stating the truth about the Treaty of Waitangi doesn’t make anyone a racist. If it did, Sir Apirana Ngata himself would be a racist. We should all heed his words:


Article the First
———————
These are the words of the first article of the Treaty of Waitangi:

‘The Chiefs assembled including Chiefs not present at the assembly hereby cede absolutely to the Queen of England for ever the Government of all of their lands’

“These are but a few words but they indicate a complete cession. This was the transfer by the Maori Chiefs to the Queen of England for ever of the Government of all their lands. What was the thing they transferred? What was the thing which they gave away so freely for ever? It was the Government of their lands.”

However most Māori signed the Māori version.

[jonu]

However most Māori signed the Māori version.

That they couldn't read and was written by a European.

[Bjauck]

That they couldn't read and was written by a European.

So that is why when there is doubt there is emphasis on the principle of contra proferentem with any ambiguity.

[jonu]

So that is why when there is doubt there is emphasis on the principle of contra proferentem with any ambiguity.

The ambiguity is removed by referencing the original English version, not by reinterpreting it 180 years later to entrench a racist power grab.

[LEMON]

LEMON is just here to call everyone a racist if they aren’t onboard with the separatist agenda. Stating the truth about the Treaty of Waitangi doesn’t make anyone a racist. If it did, Sir Apirana Ngata himself would be a racist. We should all heed his words:


Article the First
———————
These are the words of the first article of the Treaty of Waitangi:

‘The Chiefs assembled including Chiefs not present at the assembly hereby cede absolutely to the Queen of England for ever the Government of all of their lands’

“These are but a few words but they indicate a complete cession. This was the transfer by the Maori Chiefs to the Queen of England for ever of the Government of all their lands. What was the thing they transferred? What was the thing which they gave away so freely for ever? It was the Government of their lands.”

When did I call you a racist?

[Daytr]

The ambiguity is removed by referencing the original English version, not by reinterpreting it 180 years later to entrench a racist power grab.

I think you just contradicted yourself from your earlier post.