Nat/act/nzf 2023

[mistaTea]

https://youtu.be/UL2CaNyNBks?si=e7_JaVpIzH42TNd6
Yes, hysteria is a good description MrT.

I was actually stunned at how hysterical Maiki was over a poll so far away from the election.

Zero objectivity.

It is not a suprise that the current govt are going to bounce around in the polls and take some knocks as they are having to make some really tough calls. I don't envy them, as this first 6 months has really been about trying to get to grips with the state of things and clean up as much as they can.

But the proof will be in the pudding in the next couple of years in terms of who NZers think deserve to govern. Any polls taken now are nothing to get hysterical over.

I just hope Luxon does not direct Goldsmith to do some sort of bailout for this lot. Most of our journalists need to be retrained.

[Daytr]

Not at all, but this is one poll 30 months out from the next election.

I decided to put TV1 on to see what they had to say, and was shocked.

I thought Maiki Sherman was on the verge of hysteria.

https://youtu.be/UL2CaNyNBks?si=e7_JaVpIzH42TNd6
Yes, hysteria is a good description MrT.

They spent 11 minutes on it? Slow news day Monday?

There's no way NZ would elect a L/G/TPM coalition at the moment. The poll will be reflecting the electorate's grumpiness with the state of the nation, most of which is down to the last 6 years. Six months from an election these numbers would have worried the government. Not now.

The only hysteria I am seeing is on here.
The denial, twisting the interpretation of the outcome of the poll. Isn't that what most of you accuse the media of?

It's the fourth time in a row that this poll has ACT down.

And yes it is news, as NZF who didn't win one electoral seat & according to this poll wouldn't be even in parliament & ACT with the worst performing polling figures of the coalition, both have had outsized influence on the Government & policy. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

Both NZF & ACT are the extremes of the NZ political spectrum and it should be a concern for the over 85% of the population that didn't vote for them, that they are having those on the extreme are having so much influence.

Sure it's one poll, but NAFT wouldn't want to see another one like it so early in their first and perhaps only term in office.

[Balance]

Cutting the public sector, younger family members still heading to Oz and even the right of centre Auckland mayor has been fighting with the new government. The electorate needs to see the positive and unifying rebuilding part of the Coalition plans.

I view the poll results as a very good reminder of how short term NZers are when it comes to forward thinking - inflict a bit of pain by withdrawing them from their fast food diet of quick-fixes (by throwing monies and funds recklessly with no accountability or expectations of returns) and they howl for relief.

Never mind the future - it's all about the present.

The poll should get Luxon cracking instead of playing nice guy and trying to appease the woke leftist voters - shock & awe to get NZ back on track to slow down the slide towards 2nd world status.

An excellent poll results at this stage of the election cycle imo.

[mistaTea]

I view the poll results as a very good reminder of how short term NZers are when it comes to forward thinking - inflict a bit of pain by withdrawing them from their fast food diet of quick-fixes (by throwing monies and funds recklessly with no accountability or expectations of returns) and they howl for relief.

Never mind the future - it's all about the present.

The poll should get Luxon cracking instead of playing nice guy and trying to appease the woke leftist voters - shock & awe to get NZ back on track to slow down the slide towards 2nd world status.

An excellent poll results at this stage of the election cycle imo.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/...is-are-facing/

During this interview, Hosko put together some key moments of the 'Maiki Special' last night. Baldy laughed it off, but I winced.

[RTM]

The only hysteria I am seeing is on here.
The denial, twisting the interpretation of the outcome of the poll. Isn't that what most of you accuse the media of?

It's the fourth time in a row that this poll has ACT down.

And yes it is news, as NZF who didn't win one electoral seat & according to this poll wouldn't be even in parliament & ACT with the worst performing polling figures of the coalition, both have had outsized influence on the Government & policy. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

Both NZF & ACT are the extremes of the NZ political spectrum and it should be a concern for the over 85% of the population that didn't vote for them, that they are having those on the extreme are having so much influence.

Sure it's one poll, but NAFT wouldn't want to see another one like it so early in their first and perhaps only term in office.

So you thought TVNZ's presentation was appropriate ? Wow. Did you watch it ?
No one is doubting what it told us.

[thegreatestben]

Mistatea, can you feed your chat gpt 4 with the transcript or can it listen to the audio and reflect on it? ask it to be neutral and describe the tone etc

[mistaTea]

Mistatea, can you feed your chat gpt 4 with the transcript or can it listen to the audio and reflect on it? ask it to be neutral and describe the tone etc

Looks like transcripts disabled for that youtube video RTM provided.

GPT4 is not able to watch videos (might be a feature of GPT5).

[Daytr]

So you thought TVNZ's presentation was appropriate ? Wow. Did you watch it ?
No one is doubting what it told us.

Depends what you mean by appropriate?
My only comment was that it was overly long.
It could be a reaction to a Government who has put the boot into the media & speaking of inappropriate, that is highly inappropriate by Winston, we don't want Trump style politics here.

A politician threatening the media is never a good look.

[mistaTea]

So you thought TVNZ's presentation was appropriate ? Wow. Did you watch it ?
No one is doubting what it told us.

I am just astounded how these guys can put this kind of hysterical presenation together, and then still not see why so many people don't want to use their service.

The poll is the poll, no disputing the result. And it is a reminder to the current govt (as much as they will all try to play it down) that people want to start seeing some tangible results.

Difficult job for the current govt, as they are working at pace...but these things take time. Law and Order, for example, is not going to get fixed in 6 months after how bad it was allowed to deteriorate over the previous 6 years. Footage of thugs smashing jewellry stores with hammers and machetes will understandably make people afraid. And the current govt won't get away with blaming Labour forever (even though the problem execcerbated so badly under Labour's watch) - all people will want to see is law and order restored, no more excuses.

All the press about cuts...gives the impression that National are just dramatically reducing services as opposed to streamlining and focussing spend, cutting out unecessary waste.

The electorate can be fickle at the best of times, so I am sure the polls will jump around. And we accept the polls as they are, each a snapshot in time.

But Maiki can do much better than the crazed lunatic presentation she gave. Anyone would have thought the current government were on the eve of being chucked out of office. Come on, the next election is two and a half years away and that us a very very long time in politics.

[mistaTea]

Depends what you mean by appropriate?
My only comment was that it was overly long.
It could be a reaction to a Government who has put the boot into the media & speaking of inappropriate, that is highly inappropriate by Winston, we don't want Trump style politics here.

A politician threatening the media is never a good look.

Ahhhh I see, so it's our impartial MSM giving the govt the message is it? Cough up, or more crazed loon pressos every time your support drops a percentage point in the polls yeah?

Nice.