Nat/act/nzf 2023

[Balance]

Repeating it 1000 times doesn't make it more interesting, quite the opposite.
Get some new material!

You mean like :

12,000 new houses built by Labour

Oops

12,000 new houses delivered by Labour

Oops

12,000 additional houses delivered by Labour?

New material but the same old Clueless Cindy spin and BS!

[Daytr]

Yawn!
Hovering over the ignore button at this rate.

[Balance]

Yawn!
Hovering over the ignore button at this rate.

Please do so.

And quickly so you do not need to be embarrassed further by your pathetic attempts to spin like Cindy.

[Daytr]

I don't think you understand how the ignore button works. 😂

[dobby41]

Lol - Admirer of pathological liar Clueless Cindy (one source of truth) unable to point towards one single post where he wrote that Kiwibuild was always going to fail.

Next!

You are the proven liar - next!

[dobby41]

Good enough for the majority of NZers that recidivist offenders and criminals are kept away longer and reduce/eliminate the harm they cause to society. Victims’ rights are more important than criminals’.

But why try to tell us that it will REDUCE crime - it won't.
Evidence-based policies they said - the evidence here and around the world is that it doesn't work (but it will this time they say).

There is some merit that keeping them in prison longer means that they can't commit a crime - until they get out without any work having been done to change their behavior.

If they just want to lock people up for longer then make that the policy - not this fantasy.

[Baa_Baa]

But why try to tell us that it [locking up the crims] will REDUCE crime - it won't.

Labour government 6-year experiment of significantly reducing the prison population proved that alternative sentences and letting the crims out of prison absolutely did INCREASE crime.

So what will work, to reduce crime in NZ?

[dobby41]

Labour government 6-year experiment of significantly reducing the prison population proved that alternative sentences and letting the crims out of prison absolutely did INCREASE crime.

So what will work, to reduce crime in NZ?

Not for me to solve the issues (I don't have the research resources (or time)) but 3 strikes won't so maybe the Govt should spend their time working on something that will work.
I believe the problem isn't simple - so the solution won't be either.

[Daytr]

Not for me to solve the issues (I don't have the research resources (or time)) but 3 strikes won't so maybe the Govt should spend their time working on something that will work.
I believe the problem isn't simple - so the solution won't be either.

Correct it isn't that simple.
501s definitely had an impact on serious crime through gangs in NZ.
Cost of living, some of that blame can be laid at Labour's feet also contributed.
However need to see serious crime & even the not so serious I.e theft etc need to be held accountable.

Implementation of the crack down on crime is key and 3 strikes rule requires nuance. Not just a blanket sentence.

Just filling prisons isn't the answer, let alone the cost to tax payers.

[Joshuatree]

Three Strikes - a failed policy before so why will it succeed this time?
Why are they trying to fool us into believing that it will reduce crime when it didn't before?
About time they got into some real policies and helped the average New Zealander (like cost of living - removal of fuel tax hasn't happened (Auckland only) and regos are about to go up (all of us)).

Correct it's a failed policy from the past,a bit like boot camps
This Cannibal Collective is treating NZ like an experiment, a ruthless business mentality,profit at all costs,complete uncaring for most kiwi's.