Nat/act/nzf 2023

[causecelebre]

If Victoria is a woke establishment - and presumably you think that is a bad thing? Do you think safeguards should be brought to in stop Universities becoming woke and what would those safeguards be?

It looks like the VU free speech debate is back on anyway: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...rsity-on-panel

Nope, I'd like Universities to be places of education for every one without affirmative action and not have small special interest groups dominating the discourse and allowing all views. Anyone that does not toe the progressive line is cancelled and is not in a "safe place". Students that publicly vocalise opinions that do not follow the VUSU point of view suffer not only harassment on campus but very real career risk.

I'm not surprised the debate is back on. Marcail Parkinson got publicly roasted on her inability to provide any evidence that Johnathon Ayling and the Free Speech Union incited hate speech as the VUSU expounded. It was simply cancel culture at its worst

[Bjauck]

Nope, I'd like Universities to be places of education for every one without affirmative action and not have small special interest groups dominating the discourse and allowing all views. Anyone that does not toe the progressive line is cancelled and is not in a "safe place". Students that publicly vocalise opinions that do not follow the VUSU point of view suffer not only harassment on campus but very real career risk.

I'm not surprised the debate is back on. Marcail Parkinson got publicly roasted on her inability to provide any evidence that Johnathon Ayling and the Free Speech Union incited hate speech as the VUSU expounded. It was simply cancel culture at its worst

However he is not being cancelled. The University is holding an event in which he is included. There was a debate about the debate and a revised format established! Some students had expressed their concern at the original structure and possibility it could be a platform for hate speech.

With respect to the harassed students, are they bullied/harassed by other students or by the University administration how are they harassed and what career risk do they face?

[mistaTea]

David Seymour just posted:

We just saved you $107 million on school lunches.

And despite the shrieking from the left, we’re not cancelling the programme.


The reality is Labour did not budget for free school lunches past this year. By making tough choices, we’re able to keep funding the programme and do more with less money.


We’ll be feeding kids in schools the fruit and sandwiches their parents would give them, not woke food like quinoa and sushi.


We’re going to be saving $107 million on the programme, and more kids will be eligible for lunches. That’s the kind of problem solving we need to stop Government waste and treat your tax dollars with respect.


Bon appétit.

[blackcap]

David Seymour just posted:

Who the hell would feed kids Quinoa and Sushi? Are people that retarded?

Heck, I'm in my mid 40's now and can appreciate Quinoa now and then but as a kid that SIHT would go straight into the bin.

[mistaTea]

Who the hell would feed kids Quinoa and Sushi? Are people that retarded?

Heck, I'm in my mid 40's now and can appreciate Quinoa now and then but as a kid that SIHT would go straight into the bin.

Yeah for sure, earlier reports showed that a lot of kids did not eat the food so there was a lot of waste.

Part of that would be due to them ripping the ring out of it by trying to be too 'healthy' with the good.

At the end of the day, if the taxpayer is going to foot the bill... we do have to provide food that the kids will actually eat, in a cost-effective way.

We do want the food to have nutritional value (so we probably shouldn't be feeding them a pie and a coke), but we don't need to get carried away. The main thing is that these underpriviledged kids are getting something that they will eat.

Some common sense perhaps?

[Bjauck]

Who the hell would feed kids Quinoa and Sushi? Are people that retarded?
Heck, I'm in my mid 40's now and can appreciate Quinoa now and then but as a kid that SIHT would go straight into the bin.

Didn't Seymour invent that outrage? As far as I understand nobody - not even the previous government - had suggested school lunches consist of quinoa and sushi. Quinoa and sushi sound sufficiently champagne socialist for Seymour to create outrage against. However I think he was trying to add a bit of humour to make his point, which is also his manner.

I am in my 50's and like sushi and hummus but I would put quinoa in the compost bin unless I had nothing else to eat!

I think energetic kids could metabolise fat and sugar more effectively - as part of a balanced diet - than more sedentary adults.

Maybe different areas could have different foods. So if a trial of quinoa salad works in Ponsonby schools lunches, for example, and it is cost effective, they should run with it.

[mistaTea]

Didn't Seymour invent that outrage? As far as I understand nobody - not even the previous government - had suggested school lunches consist of quinoa and sushi. Quinoa and sushi sound sufficiently champagne socialist for Seymour to create outrage against. However I think he was trying to add a bit of humour to make his point, which is also his manner.

I am in my 50's and like sushi and hummus but I would put quinoa in the compost bin unless I had nothing else to eat!

I think energetic kids could metabolise fat and sugar more effectively - as part of a balanced diet - than more sedentary adults.

Maybe different areas could have different foods. So if a trial of quinoa salad works in Ponsonby schools lunches, for example, and it is cost effective, they should run with it.

Mate, if the taxpayer ever starts paying for lunches in Ponsoby, we riot.

[Bjauck]

Mate, if the taxpayer ever starts paying for lunches in Ponsoby, we riot.

There is social housing in Freemans Bay/Ponsonby. We pay for Accommodation supplements and Ponsonby pensioners. It is not all yuppies.

[blackcap]

Didn't Seymour invent that outrage? As far as I understand nobody - not even the previous government - had suggested school lunches consist of quinoa and sushi. Quinoa and sushi sound sufficiently champagne socialist for Seymour to create outrage against. However I think he was trying to add a bit of humour to make his point, which is also his manner.

I am in my 50's and like sushi and hummus but I would put quinoa in the compost bin unless I had nothing else to eat!

I think energetic kids could metabolise fat and sugar more effectively - as part of a balanced diet - than more sedentary adults.

Maybe different areas could have different foods. So if a trial of quinoa salad works in Ponsonby schools lunches, for example, and it is cost effective, they should run with it.

Definitely, kids can easily have a pie and coke, but even a good old fashioned ham and cheese sandwich on white bread would be great to give kids a good start to the day.

That said, I am against lunches in schools and if parents do not provide their kids with lunch, they are failing in one of their core responsibilities. Maybe CYPS needs to pay them a visit.