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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Really wearing a headscarf which was a western fashion item in the 50s & 60s is reflective of the oppression of women?

    Is Jewish men wearing their kippah or the black hat & having curls reflective of the oppression of men? How about Jewish women wearing head scarves which is also quite common?

    The headscarf is also part of traditional costumes in many parts Christian Europe.
    Perhaps if Ardern had worn a niqab I would agree with you.
    You are writing a lot of garbage.

    Shame on you on you for making light of the oppression of women in certain Muslim countries and societies.

    Ardern was urged not to wear the hijab to show empathy with the oppressed women of some Muslim countries who are forced to wear the hijab on pain of beatings, jail, rape and even deaths.

    She persisted as she was receiving all the accolades and loved bathing in her new-found heroine status amongst Muslim countries. She was loving it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...over-hijab-law

    "A 22-year-old woman has died in an Iranian hospital days after being detained by the regime’s morality police for allegedly not complying with the country’s hijab regulations."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    You are writing a lot of garbage.

    Ardern was urged not to wear the hijab to show empathy with the oppressed women of some Muslim countries who are forced to wear the hijab on pain of beatings, jail, rape and even deaths.

    You are trying to equate that with Boy Scouts wearing their caps.
    I'm not the one confusing displaying empathy at a very sensitive time, to making a statement about the oppression of women of the very people that have just been massacred.

    You keep saying she was urged not to wear it.
    By who? The same person you claimed said something quite peculiar before?

    And no, I am saying wearing traditional headwear of a culture or religion does not mean she is condoning the oppression of women or the abhorrent behavior of men towards women.
    You seem out of step to the global reaction to the empathy that Ardern displayed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    I'm not the one confusing displaying empathy at a very sensitive time, to making a statement about the oppression of women of the very people that have just been massacred.

    You keep saying she was urged not to wear it.
    By who? The same person you claimed said something quite peculiar before?

    And no, I am saying wearing traditional headwear of a culture or religion does not mean she is condoning the oppression of women or the abhorrent behavior of men towards women.
    You seem out of step to the global reaction to the empathy that Ardern displayed.
    And you are writing a lot of garbage now that you, like Ardern, are shown to condone the oppression of Muslim women in certain Muslim countries and societies by your actions and by your laughable comparisons of women being forced to wear the hijab vs customary hat/head gear.

    Shame on you.
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    Anyway this is all a good distraction from NAFTs massive fiscal hole.

    NZF claiming their's a $5.6Bln hole in the budget & Nicola Willis in denial but already back tracking on election promises.

    So will NAFT be borrowing to fund their tax cuts? Sounds like a company borrowing to pay dividends...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    So will NAFT be borrowing to pay their tax cuts? Sounds like a company borrowing to pay dividends...
    It's his specialty one might say.

    On a seperate topic, why isn't Luxon the finance minister and nicola willis the PM. Their career experience and personality seem to be unsuited to their current positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    It's his specialty one might say.

    On a seperate topic, why isn't Luxon the finance minister and nicola willis the PM. Their career experience and personality seem to be unsuited to their current positions.

    Oh heck - wasn't that what you were expecting & wanting Ryman to do - borrow to pay your dividend ?


    The sort of thing they do in Argentina is it ?

    Do they have a "Borrow a Brain" service over there too for a few pesos ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    And you are writing a lot of garbage now that you, like Ardern, are shown to condone the oppression of Muslim women in certain Muslim countries and societies by your actions and by your laughable comparisons of women being forced to wear the hijab vs customary hat/head gear.

    Shame on you.
    Pathetic. Stop making things up.
    It's your standard modus operandi.
    Make it personal and attack the poster.
    Just ridiculous & childish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Pathetic. Stop making things up.
    It's your standard modus operandi.
    Make it personal and attack the poster.
    Just ridiculous & childish.
    Making things up?

    Who wrote this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Really wearing a headscarf which was a western fashion item in the 50s & 60s is reflective of the oppression of women?

    Is Jewish men wearing their kippah or the black hat & having curls reflective of the oppression of men? How about Jewish women wearing head scarves which is also quite common?

    The headscarf is also part of traditional costumes in many parts Christian Europe.
    Perhaps if Ardern had worn a niqab I would agree with you.
    Oh - it's you! Equating the oppression of Muslim women by forcing them to wear the hijab on pain of arrests, force, torture, rape & even death with 'fashionable' headgear/wear!

    https://www.unwomen.org/en/news-stor...of-mahsa-amini



    Completely out of your depth, Daytr.

    Keep to your day trading rather than making a fool of yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Making things up?

    Who wrote this?



    Oh - it's you! Equating the oppression of Muslim women by forcing them to wear the hijab on pain of arrests, force, torture, rape & even death with 'fashionable' headgear/wear!

    https://www.unwomen.org/en/news-stor...of-mahsa-amini



    Completely out of your depth, Daytr.

    Keep to your day trading rather than making a fool of yourself.
    Learn to read. I was saying the exact opposite of that.

    The entire world praised Ardern for her empathetic response to the Muslim community after the attack and you suggest she was promoting the oppression of women.
    Get a grip man.
    Hopefully you find my posts helpful, but in no way should they be construed as advice. Make your own decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Learn to read. I was saying the exact opposite of that.

    The entire world praised Ardern for her empathetic response to the Muslim community after the attack and you suggest she was promoting the oppression of women.
    Get a grip man.
    And you are incapable of reading.

    The point being made is that Ardern persisted in wearing the hijab well after the event and after her point has been made.

    Even after she was requested to stop wearing the hijab as it signified the oppression of women in certain Muslim countries and societies.

    You chose to argue otherwise. And now you write that you are not?

    You can keep going around in circles, Daytr but you are arguing against yourself.
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