Nat/act/nzf 2023

[Daytr]

You keep getting confused and conflating issues.

Nobody on here has said they are against efforts to revitalise and support Maori culture.

There are all sorts of initiatives that successive govts do to try restore mana.

It generally has broad support from the public.

We are talking about ramming through a pro-Maori obligation as part of a bribe to media who were (and still are) in a pretty desperate financial position.

The argument is that there should not be any of these types of conditions to receive the funding. And that these conditions have knock on effects.

For instance, the reporting on co-governance…there was no rigorous journalism and hard questions of the govt being asked about what it all actually means, how it fits within our overall democracy etc.

And one conclusion that is drawn is that they never grilled the govt on this because it is a Maori/TOW issue, and they just took a sack of cash on the provision they would proirotise and enhance Maori/TOW coverage.

You can see the issue, yeah?

I can see what you are saying, no confusion, it's been obvious what your interpretation is. None of the conditions outlined mandate what you have interpreted.

Coverage of Maori issues was not dictated as being 'pro Maori' what ever that means.

I saw plenty of opinion pieces reported on MSM that were against the Labour Maori Caucus's agenda

I saw coverage of Hobson Choice's agenda. So the funding didn't prevent a balance of views being reported.

And I disagree, there is a vocal minority that are very anti anything Maori.

[causecelebre]

And I disagree, there is a vocal minority that are very anti anything Maori.

I'd suggest it's not anti-maori but anti-affirmative action. I believe the majority (as voted by the majority of NZ'ers at the last election) want a equal opportunities and democrat meritocracy rather than the race based systems the last government implemented

[Ferg]

I'd suggest it's not anti-maori but anti-affirmative action. I believe the majority (as voted by the majority of NZ'ers at the last election) want a equal opportunities and democrat meritocracy rather than the race based systems the last government implemented

Hear hear. Talk to any South African and they will tell you NZ is (or was) heading down the same destructive path as SA where meritocracy was thrown out of the window.

[Daytr]

I'd suggest it's not anti-maori but anti-affirmative action. I believe the majority (as voted by the majority of NZ'ers at the last election) want a equal opportunities and democrat meritocracy rather than the race based systems the last government implemented

Agree there was a push back against the Maori Caucus agenda as I have already stated and I was in agreement with.

Re the anti Maori, you only had to go to public meetings during the election campaign to here hisses & boos when any te reo was used. It's also on display on social media everyday. It's a minority as I said bur they are vocal to their embarrassment. Racism is alive & well in NZ like every country in the world.

[Joshuatree]

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/09...zealand-media/

To use the word corruption is unchallengeable, when any government pays media outlets to propagandise the public — with the same outlets untruthfully claiming to be independent and trustworthy — while basically being bribed to follow a far-Left agenda. That this should happen in not (quite yet) a totalitarian régime, but in what was once thought of as a democracy, with a free press, is quite staggering.

Ardern’s government is blatantly taking over the media, an important part of any plan to destroy a democracy. It is more than shameful for those at the top of media management to be accepting these bribes, with the inevitable resulting pressure on all journalists to conform. It is to the great credit of those few who are increasingly reluctant to do so –- but who are now at risk of losing their livelihoods.

My Gawd ,what a totally hateful,completely biased,seeping pus from a boil that is,sickening dishonest,full of lopsided distorted propoganda.
The Website just about as bad ,joined at the hip with Blubber Balance.

[Daytr]

My Gawd ,what a totally hateful,completely biased,seeping pus from a boil that is,sickening dishonest,full of lopsided distorted propoganda.
The Website just about as bad ,joined at the hip with Blubber Balance.

Yeah I didn't even think it was worth responding to such one eyed rubbish.

[ynot]

My Gawd ,what a totally hateful,completely biased,seeping pus from a boil that is,sickening dishonest,full of lopsided distorted propoganda.
The Website just about as bad ,joined at the hip with Blubber Balance.

Don't pull the propaganda card, that is strictly Ardern's trump act.

[jonu]

My Gawd ,what a totally hateful,completely biased,seeping pus from a boil that is,sickening dishonest,full of lopsided distorted propoganda.
The Website just about as bad ,joined at the hip with Blubber Balance.

You might want to familiarise yourself with the proud history of The Spectator before you hiss and spit JT. It is unashamedly Conservative and has been since 1828, the oldest surviving weekly magazine in the world. It hasn't done so by resorting to your hysterical misrepresentations.

[Daytr]

You might want to familiarise yourself with the proud history of The Spectator before you hiss and spit JT. It is unashamedly Conservative and has been since 1828, the oldest surviving weekly magazine in the world. It hasn't done so by resorting to your hysterical misrepresentations.

The Times is older so are several publications

So not are you factually incorrect (daily or weekly who cares) what is your point?
There are many publications that have an audience, that doesn't mean it's an unbiased publication.

Perhaps the key is obvious in its title. But hey that's just obvious to anyone that isn't in a rabbit warren.

Embarrassing post.

[Baa_Baa]

You might want to familiarise yourself with the proud history of The Spectator before you hiss and spit JT. It is unashamedly Conservative and has been since 1828, the oldest surviving weekly magazine in the world. It hasn't done so by resorting to your hysterical misrepresentations.

This is what THEY say, note emphasis on 'weekly'. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...ekly-magazine/