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    No there are far more shares issued than that.
    $176Bln MC divided by say $34 = 5.17 Bln shares on issue & value equates to $9Bln.
    Am I missing something?

    Nice rally today mostly on China rate cut.
    Looking to get short again here. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    No there are far more shares issued than that.
    $176Bln MC divided by say $34 = 5.17 Bln shares on issue & value equates to $9Bln.
    Am I missing something?

    Nice rally today mostly on China rate cut.
    Looking to get short again here. ;-)
    Half year report (plus commentary) says 5,317 Million on Page 43

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    Last edited by Snow Leopard; 02-03-2015 at 03:46 PM. Reason: more than the report
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    Thanks for clearing that up - for me, Tiger.


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    Here's the demerger proposal. Note that shareholders will retain their BHP shares and receive an equal number of shares in the new company.

    http://www.bhpbilliton.com/home/inve...s/default.aspx

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    So are they raising equity at the same time to put cash into the new company? Any dilution?
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    I havn't read the 196 page shareholders' circular in full either but it doesn't appear that South32 - or BHP -will be raising any new capital. Other sources suggest that South32 will not be overburdened by a disproportionate share of the current group's borrowings but of course, the new board will have its own ideas on future business developments and possibly acquisitions? I guess we'll have to wait and see but the demerger needs to be voted on first to become a reality. Most of the big insto shareholders are "said" to be warm to the proposal at this stage but are, naturally, not making any commitments at this stage.

    I see that there will be a voluntary sale facility for South32 shares for shareholders holding less than 10,000 BHP shares. Which probably includes most of us! At this stage, I intend to keep mine - aluminium, nickel, zinc etc may make a comeback some time!

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    Cheers Macduffy
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    Deutsche Bank's view on South32's valuation.

    http://www.afr.com/business/mining/d...0150401-1mcg20

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    I wonder how much of the 23% increase in April's iron ore price will "stick"?

    http://www.theage.com.au/business/mi...26-1mteaa.html

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    According to an article in today's NZ Herald, the spin-off of South32 will be treated as a dividend in the hands of NZ shareholders of BHP to the extent of 70cps.

    May be time to re-assess this company's suitability for my portfolio.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/transtasma...ectid=11440027
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