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07-11-2017, 01:11 PM
#3181
Post 5636 on SUM thread has the chart
https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showth...ht=#post687418
More often below 50% than above so maybe 50% is about right / fair
At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.
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07-11-2017, 01:23 PM
#3182
Originally Posted by winner69
Thanks for referencing that mate but as noted above this situation is completely illogical as SUM have a compound growth rate in underlying earnings of more than 3 times RYM's rate. As the years have unfolded with compound growth differences this situation has become most profoundly illogical. Reminder to self I must take the necessary steps to get ready7 to execute a short RYM and double down on SUM strategy.
Last edited by Beagle; 07-11-2017 at 01:25 PM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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07-11-2017, 01:28 PM
#3183
Originally Posted by Beagle
Thanks for referencing that mate but as noted above this situation is completely illogical as SUM have a compound growth rate in underlying earnings of more than 3 times RYM's rate. As the years have unfolded with compound growth differences this situation has become most profoundly illogical. Reminder to self I must take the necessary steps to get ready7 to execute a short RYM and double down on SUM strategy.
Perception is everything mate, remember since 2013, Ryman has been in the top 10 best performing healthcare companies in the world.
Last edited by couta1; 07-11-2017 at 01:38 PM.
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07-11-2017, 01:56 PM
#3184
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Originally Posted by Beagle
Thanks for referencing that mate but as noted above this situation is completely illogical as SUM have a compound growth rate in underlying earnings of more than 3 times RYM's rate. As the years have unfolded with compound growth differences this situation has become most profoundly illogical. Reminder to self I must take the necessary steps to get ready7 to execute a short RYM and double down on SUM strategy.
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07-11-2017, 02:00 PM
#3185
Maybe ba_baa was perceptive the other day on the OCA thread
Hey winner, do you get the feeling we're close to full cycle when lots of company's are hyper priced, future prosperity is baked in, and the punters reckon a good profitable growing business should always be rewarded with rising market valuations? They can't fathom why a 'market' would sell their stock at all, let alone at something below their perceived valuation.
At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.
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07-11-2017, 02:06 PM
#3186
That ratio - if anything it could be saying RYM is still over valued and could still continue to be rerated down from its lofyry multiples
So far PE down from high 30s to mid 20s ....heading to sub 20?
At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.
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07-11-2017, 03:05 PM
#3187
Originally Posted by winner69
That ratio - if anything it could be saying RYM is still ‘over valued’ and could still continue to be rerated down from its lofyry multiples
So far PE down from high 30’s to mid 20’s ....heading to sub 20?
3.5 years and counting and it hasn't done much from when we called it overpriced in early 2014 at $8.50. I suspect people will have to be extremely patient for this to go over $10. Another 3.5 years of market underperformance in store for shareholders ?
Ecclesiastes 11:2: Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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07-11-2017, 04:44 PM
#3188
This may be a crude way to look at it but as or right now, the dividend yield of both RYM and SUM is exactly 1.93% for both companies. Does this mean that they are both appropriately valued and is this a moment of market perfection?
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07-11-2017, 05:40 PM
#3189
Originally Posted by Nasi Goreng
This may be a crude way to look at it but as or right now, the dividend yield of both RYM and SUM is exactly 1.93% for both companies. Does this mean that they are both appropriately valued and is this a moment of market perfection?
RYM paying out 50% of underlying profit, SUM 30%. Expect both companies dividend to increase in line with underlying profit growth this year, my expectations are SUM growth 45- 50% RYM growth 10 - 15% for the current year.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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11-11-2017, 03:42 PM
#3190
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