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    Quote Originally Posted by Entrep View Post
    With EPS down after all those acquisitions something is seriously wrong.
    Aquisitions were paid for with cashflow plus a few shares.
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    A few shares being re 50% increase by my sums.Paid too much by the looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    A few shares being re 50% increase by my sums.Paid too much by the looks.
    It certainly looks that way,at present,however it does look as though eps growth will be over 15% pa for the years 2018 and 2019,which will in turn mean the PE will be lower than the growth rate,which is very positive..

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Offcourse I was bitterly disappointed with the result.
    The real test is eps growth.PGC's eps were down 4%.A lot riding on a very good second half to improve stock levels and cash flow.
    From research we see a PE of approx 13 while eps growth going forward should be over 15% for the next two years.
    Because of my liking of the sector I have decided to hang onto my PGC shares in the meantime.
    Whatever happened to the " Earnings growth twice P/E" rule, percy? Or does that only get counted against full year results?



    But seriously, I rather like the PGC story and this might be the time to buy a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macduffy View Post
    Whatever happened to the " Earnings growth twice P/E" rule, percy? Or does that only get counted against full year results?



    But seriously, I rather like the PGC story and this might be the time to buy a few.
    EPS growth twice PE is my goal.Don't get too many goals,but live in hope.
    EPS growth above PE I am happy to hold.
    EPS negative as per PGC I am very unhappy.
    PE twice or three times growth I sell.
    The rules are the same,it is just me,who has moments of indecision.
    Like you I like the story.We have been there before with EBO,but with 17 acquisitions EBO never had lower eps.[that I can remember].

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    Quote Originally Posted by macduffy View Post
    Whatever happened to the " Earnings growth twice P/E" rule, percy? Or does that only get counted against full year results?



    But seriously, I rather like the PGC story and this might be the time to buy a few.
    You might be right macduffy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paper Tiger View Post
    Looks like FY EBITDA will be less than my guess and thus, probably, so will be all the other important numbers.

    I will do a new valuation and then make a decision from there.

    But the good news is I am off to see The Lego Batman Movie in a while, so overall a happy day.



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    So I have a current valuation of $0.733 and a one year forward valuation of $0.77.
    Current SP within a Tiger's whisker of the current valuation so will keep for now.

    I can recommend the movie.

    Tonight it is the MPO playing the Symphony Fantastic at the Twin Towers.

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    PGC hit your one year forward valuation of 77c today, Tiger. I bought a few last week so would appreciate another, higher one year number - if you can so oblige!


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    I wouldn't count on there being any change to PT s valuation.
    Ps I bought some too.
    Last edited by h2so4; 13-02-2017 at 04:17 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macduffy View Post
    PGC hit your one year forward valuation of 77c today, Tiger. I bought a few last week so would appreciate another, higher one year number - if you can so oblige!

    Many years ago I had to get my house valued and when the guy came round he asked me what value I wanted !

    There is a 'proper' valuation of $1.06 kicking around but I would expect that to be revised down at some point.

    I hope you bought at or below my current valuation. I would not want you to overpay.




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