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    In case you missed it, NZF ran a 3 column x 180cm colour advertisement in the business section of the Herald on Saturday offering depositors 9.25% for 12 months, secured by first ranking debenture stock over the assets of the company, looks like the finance company division is going to fire up again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by invessi View Post
    In case you missed it, NZF ran a 3 column x 180cm colour advertisement in the business section of the Herald on Saturday offering depositors 9.25% for 12 months, secured by first ranking debenture stock over the assets of the company, looks like the finance company division is going to fire up again!
    In case you missed it Invessi, one of NZF's Directors , Peter Huljich is now up on criminal charges. The Securities Commission allege he failed to disclose third party loans in offer documents and that he “misled prospective investors by misrepresenting the investment performance of the scheme's funds in offer documents.”. Innocent til proven guilty Invessi but does the news that one of NZF's directors has been accused of such practice fill you with confidence. If it does you are pretty much on your own - theres only one buy bid at the moment and thats at 10 cents which as low as this stock has ever gone.

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    Minimoke, I have to say it is regretable that PH has been targeted, there are others far more worthy of prosecution in my view. I am inclined to agree with Phil Macalisters blog this morning on Good returns (below). As to the share price, I don't see that changing much until we get a good news story and they start paying dividends again!

    I thought it was worth having a go at trying to defend Peter Huljich. As readers will know the Securities Commission laid criminal charges against Peter Huljich and Huljich Wealth Management (HWM) for allegedly misrepresenting its KiwiSaver funds to the public.

    Since this story broke there has been plenty about it including a comprehensive statement from Huljich about what happened. This is detailed elsewhere on Good Returns.

    As part of the background Huljich has acknowledged there was a mistake, stepped aside from his role and offered make ups to its KiwiSaver members.

    Now the Securities Commission lays criminal charges against him which, if proven, could result in time behind bars.

    The so-called victims of this alleged crime haven’t lost money and have been told that if they are unhappy about HWM they can switch to another of the many KiwiSaver providers in the market place – for free.

    Here’s the bit I don’t understand – why is the Securities Commission taking this action when there are plenty of other potential cases where investors were deliberately misled; are real victims as they lost money and are now suffering. Secondly, did Huljich really top up the funds without anyone else associated with the business knowing?

    I don’t know if Huljich set out to deliberately mislead investors, and unless there is some smoking gun then it would be hard to secure a conviction.

    Likewise it is incredibly difficult to believe the Huljich took the actions he did and no one else knew anything about it or raised any objections.

    The directors who signed off the accounts should be included in any criminal proceedings the Securities Commission pursues.

    So too should Trustees Executors which is both the trustee for the fund, and the fund administrator.

    With this latter role the company must have known what happened and approved it. If it had doubts it should have walked across the room and raised it with trustee.

    Looking at the 3rd Annual ASSET Magazine KiwiSaver survey it is clear that HWM has done well signing up members.

    Indeed our analysis of data shows that HWM was one of the most successful managers in the year to March 31 at signing up new members and had the highest growth in FUM at a whopping 625%.

    Yes, justice has to be seen to be done, but again why this case when there are plenty of others where there are actual victims? Is the commission just after a high profile scalp to look good?

    You can see why I didn’t follow my father, grandfather and uncle into the legal profession!

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    Quote Originally Posted by invessi View Post
    Minimoke, I have to say it is regretable that PH has been targeted, there are others far more worthy of prosecution in my view. I am inclined to agree with Phil Macalisters blog this morning on Good returns (below). As to the share price, I don't see that changing much until we get a good news story and they start paying dividends again!
    I don't know that he has been targeted - where he is today is where he ought to be. In the Kiwisaver arena there is no one more deserving of charges being laid against them than PH. He's the first to be found out for doing dodgy things so it is only right that his actions be judged by the judiciary to determine if those actions are legally acceptable. Other KiwiSaver providers will be watching closely.

    Macalister also has the advantage of hindsight - sure there were no victims. But that was only because he was caught out in time. Sure there are others more deserving - and Sec Comm seems to have its work cut out at them moment - there is no shortage of potential crims who are no doubt in their sights. One of the biggest fish would of course be Alan Hubbard who did the same thing as Huljich - and look where his investors have ended up now. If it wasn't for the Govt Guarantee they would be right up **** creek.

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    A word to the wise, Feely has his place in our society and it is good to know there are people like him looking out for us but in my observation, people like him are salaried and have their targets to meet and need public support to keep office, nothing new or particularly wrong about that except when their targets are met and their persona are achieved by going after the easy fish, who on a scale of 1 to 10, are maybe about a 2.

    This was very evident when they prosecuted Brian Clegg of Clegg and Co, in terms of wrong doing, he was on a scale of about 2, maybe 3, his company was very small, he was trying to balance his covenents between the finance company and capital notes ratios, when a capital notes investor needed an urgent early withdrawal to assist his situation, the covenent was breached (although not greatly) and the trustee pulled the plug, Brian Clegg was then prosecuted albiet they did deals behind the scenes of course to get him to plead guilty! Is this really equitable justice or is it just moving the cards around!

    I am sure you and I will know quite a number of disgraced finance company directors and others who are still at large, many of them are still lenders under some newly invented vehicle, some of the most nortorious are part of property lending syndicates, some are asking for a 10% fee up front and charging 17% interest rate.

    I am currently reading the "Southern Octypus", this a a book about the inception and growth of our Australasian merchant shipping industry, it was a ruthless and calculating industry, nothing has changed in this country, its all about who has the most influential friends, the most money and the best lawyers, another good book on this subject is lawyers, guns and money by Ian Wishhart.

    In my mind, Peter Huljich is the next easy target!

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    Oh, there are still buyers and sellers then!

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    15 12 15 15 15 8,207 $1,231

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    Quote Originally Posted by invessi View Post
    Oh, there are still buyers and sellers then!

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    look to me like someone was shouting lunch at the Viaduct and needed a bit of cash to pay for it.

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    We are pleased to announce that NZF is in the final stages of negotiation with a new business partner which was a strategy announced late last year. Since then we have looked at a number of options and narrowed these to one party which we believe offers the most effective solution for NZF.
    We are currently involved in the final stages of the due diligence process and as a consequence we must suspend all new originations from NZF HomeLoans until these negotiations and the necessary due diligence is complete.
    This means that we will not be writing any new business for the next few weeks, while this process is being undertaken. All existing loans will continue to be serviced in the usual manner, and for those loans where full solicitor documentation has been completed but have yet to settle, these commitments will be honored.
    We will keep you informed once origination can recommence.
    This is a very exciting step for NZF, and one that will enable us to grow the business to a scale that under existing structures would not have been possible.
    As always, if you have any questions, please give us a ring – otherwise, stand by for further news as it comes to hand.

    To contact Scot Bailey -
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    Quote Originally Posted by invessi View Post
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    We are pleased to announce that NZF is in the final stages of negotiation with a new business partner which was a strategy announced late last year. Since then we have looked at a number of options and narrowed these to one party which we believe offers the most effective solution for NZF.
    We are currently involved in the final stages of the due diligence process and as a consequence we must suspend all new originations from NZF HomeLoans until these negotiations and the necessary due diligence is complete.
    This means that we will not be writing any new business for the next few weeks, while this process is being undertaken. All existing loans will continue to be serviced in the usual manner, and for those loans where full solicitor documentation has been completed but have yet to settle, these commitments will be honored.
    We will keep you informed once origination can recommence.
    This is a very exciting step for NZF, and one that will enable us to grow the business to a scale that under existing structures would not have been possible.
    As always, if you have any questions, please give us a ring – otherwise, stand by for further news as it comes to hand.

    To contact Scot Bailey -
    0800 80 40 70 or e-mail at bdm@nzf.co.nz



    As a result of the Unsolicited Electronics Message Act 2007 which came into effect on September 5, 2007, we are required to have your consent to send promotional electronic messages. As you have been receiving information from us in the past, on a regular basis, and have not requested to be removed from our membership database, we infer that you consent to receive similar emails from us in the future. However, if you do not wish to receive future emails from us, please let us know by replying to this message including ‘Unsubscribe’ in the subject line and you will be removed from our database immediately.
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    Awww, come on, don't be harsh.

    We're all mates inside-ere.

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