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    Who's been buying up large is the obvious question

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    Quote Originally Posted by boysy View Post
    Who's been buying up large is the obvious question

    No one today . Volume 36 531. A whole $100K.

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    BWX had solid result and keep their promise

    Outlook - FY18 EBITDA outlook for growth to comfortably exceed the 30.7% increase achieved in FY17

    Greater growth than Trilogy will be producing
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    BWX had solid result and keep their promise

    Outlook - FY18 EBITDA outlook for growth to comfortably exceed the 30.7% increase achieved in FY17

    Greater growth than Trilogy will be producing
    Growth might be a bit higher though the PE gap is too big 36 vs 15, if we imply 25% growth for Trilogy then the equivalent for BWX is 300% profit growth which wouldn't make sense and if we imply a 30% growth as a base for BWX then for Trilogy their growth is priced at 2.5% growth. Either way doesn't make sense so clearly one is overvalued or one is undervalued.
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    Nearly a year ago on ASM day the proverbial hit the fan with that earnings guidance they announced - share price before hand was over $4.60

    Wonder what this years ASM will bring?

    All we have to work on is a wishy washy vague forecast along the lines of TIL expects underlying revenue growth in FY18 to be consistent with FY17 for each segment of the business....and TIL Group EBITDA will continue to grow, despite gross margin compression as a result of higher raw material prices within Trilogy skincare.



    Wonder what 'consistent' and 'each' actually implies ...without double counting again
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverblizzard888 View Post
    Growth might be a bit higher though the PE gap is too big 36 vs 15, if we imply 25% growth for Trilogy then the equivalent for BWX is 300% profit growth which wouldn't make sense and if we imply a 30% growth as a base for BWX then for Trilogy their growth is priced at 2.5% growth. Either way doesn't make sense so clearly one is overvalued or one is undervalued.
    No doubt you maths are correct ...but I don't quite follow the logic

    Can be a bit thick at times ...and lazy in not thinking it through
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    No doubt you maths are correct ...but I don't quite follow the logic

    Can be a bit thick at times ...and lazy in not thinking it through
    I'm just saying based on the pricing for growth, that BWX seems highly priced or Trilogy is highly undervalued

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverblizzard888 View Post
    I'm just saying based on the pricing for growth, that BWX seems highly priced or Trilogy is highly undervalued
    Got that bit ...just the %s you came up with

    Never mind, agree with you .......but the valuation gap may be a permanent thing ...whatever the reason is.

    FYI I reckon BWX on 14 times forward ebitda and TIL on 8 to 9 - same conclusion.
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    Quite a sell off lately, if goes down $2.70 mark..we will see a test of $2.50 again.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by King1212 View Post
    Quite a sell off lately, if goes down $2.70 mark..we will see a test of $2.50 again.....
    Think i'll be topping up if it enters the 2.50's

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