If National wins ...

[RGR367]

I'm intrigued. How did you find it?

Wow! I thought I followed politics well enough but at this point, I'm at a loss what you guys are talking about. Sorry folks but gut feel says it's not really important then. But keep at it and who knows it will kick in sometime

[elZorro]

Wow! I thought I followed politics well enough but at this point, I'm at a loss what you guys are talking about. Sorry folks but gut feel says it's not really important then. But keep at it and who knows it will kick in sometime

You're probably right. This is way more important.

http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/20...ig-danger.html

[artemis]

I'm intrigued. How did you find it?

It was widely available in the beginning, but has since disappeared from most places I believe. Suppose the threat of legal action played its part.Certainly the copy I read has gone.

I hear that it is still out there on the interweb, but I haven't looked.

[elZorro]

It was widely available in the beginning, but has since disappeared from most places I believe. Suppose the threat of legal action played its part.Certainly the copy I read has gone.

I hear that it is still out there on the interweb, but I haven't looked.

Yes, it's still there, the guy making the claims said he'd happily undergo a lie detector test, even if it's not admissible in court.

Not sure who it was that defended King Salmon's practices on here, but a year or two ago a low-flow site in Marlborough had an incident with fish mortality that required them to call in the boffins from MPI. 70% of all the salmon at the site, died over the course of a few days. That's why they want to move their farms somewhere else.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/far...ay+7+July+2017

[craic]

There you go el Z. You got through a whole day on a bit of rumour and supposition without a single challenge! Maybe you will get confident, enough to listen to that clown - and I will have the pleasure of watching the egg run down your face. This is right in the middle of my patch and I suppose I should shut up now and be satisfied with the three or four winners I had on the horses and good figures on the market. I think your man will win in Napier so be satisfied with that.

[fungus pudding]

Yes, it's still there, the guy making the claims said he'd happily undergo a lie detector test, even if it's not admissible in court.

Be a daredevil eZ. Tell us what this fellow alleges. Got to be good for a laugh.

[elZorro]

Be a daredevil eZ. Tell us what this fellow alleges. Got to be good for a laugh.

FP, you'll have to do more googling, check back a few posts. It's a bit too involved to spell out on a tidy site such as this, and I'm not going to get booted off before an election that the Labour/Greens should win. His first name is Ashley. While some of the details about Paula relate to a Napier address, Ashley now apparently lives in Ohaupo, on the outskirts of Hamiltown. He does seem to be keen on posting amateur videos on various subjects.

[Joshuatree]

Easy to google alright ; quite detailed, alleging 3 counts of fraud, very serious if there is any thing to it.

[Baa_Baa]

Easy to google alright ; quite detailed, alleging 3 counts of fraud, very serious if there is any thing to it.

Yes easy to find and quite the revelation, if it's true. Given the number of places that it has been removed from, someone wants it suppressed, so perhaps there is some truth in it! Quite the scandal really, might be the end of Paula Bennett.

[elZorro]

Yes easy to find and quite the revelation, if it's true. Given the number of places that it has been removed from, someone wants it suppressed, so perhaps there is some truth in it! Quite the scandal really, might be the end of Paula Bennett.

Here's an article from 2009 about Bennett, mentioning her workplaces.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...in-new-Cabinet

I'm sure there could be quite a bit of questioning in her direction, within the protected walls of the House.

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