If National wins ...

[BlackPeter]

Leaks - internal polling shock for Labour

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politi...ng-leaked.html

must be time to change the leader ...

[elZorro]

Leaks - internal polling shock for Labour

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politi...ng-leaked.html

The press aren't helping Labour much, but the trend before the last two polls was quite good. But it's only two polls, and there are two months to go.

Look how fast the press dropped the Barclay incident, and they didn't even start on the Bennett allegations. The deck is stacked for National really.

Anyway, the latest Roy Morgan poll, also out today, puts the Labour-Greens ahead of National. Howzat!

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/7...7-201707141612

[fungus pudding]

The press aren't helping Labour much, but the trend before the last two polls was quite good. But it's only two polls, and there are two months to go.

Look how fast the press dropped the Barclay incident, and they didn't even start on the Bennett allegations. The deck is stacked for National really.

Anyway, the latest Roy Morgan poll, also out today, puts the Labour-Greens ahead of National. Howzat!

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/7...7-201707141612

That's wonderful eZ.

[Major von Tempsky]

However Roy Morgan , a newish poll from Australia with distinct wobbles in its performance, usually proves to be the most left wing and least reliable poll. I, other Sharetrader readers and the media generally don't have a clue what these allegations/rumour/scuttlebutt against Bennett are....

The press aren't helping Labour much, but the trend before the last two polls was quite good. But it's only two polls, and there are two months to go.

Look how fast the press dropped the Barclay incident, and they didn't even start on the Bennett allegations. The deck is stacked for National really.

Anyway, the latest Roy Morgan poll, also out today, puts the Labour-Greens ahead of National. Howzat!

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/7...7-201707141612

[Baa_Baa]

Who knows what to believe, it is the internet after all, a deep and tragic black hole with an interminable memory, populated by every kind of human behaviour. The original posting on Facebook is well and truely gone, but it echoes, if you listen carefully.

My point made earlier in this thread is that the media will absolutely certainly have been all over it, left or right biased is irrelevant, the media silence has to be more about the content and legals.

http://mediawhores.co.nz/2017/07/03/...m-child-abuse/ Scroll down past the bashing and you'll get to the content that was copied from Facebook.

https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/...r_online_post/ An interesting discussion on Reddit, colourful if nothing else!

[fungus pudding]

However Roy Morgan , a newish poll from Australia with distinct wobbles in its performance, usually proves to be the most left wing and least reliable poll. I, other Sharetrader readers and the media generally don't have a clue what these allegations/rumour/scuttlebutt against Bennett are....

Just a few accusations about her being a pizzhead and drug user, as well as a prostitute and benefit cheat. I don't think many would believe it, not even eZ - and if there was an element of truth in it journalists would be creaming themselves all over it.

[Bjauck]

must be time to change the leader ...

I guess you can't accuse Labour or its leader of being populist/popular,. In NZ it seems National takes those honours.

[BlackPeter]

I guess you can't accuse Labour or its leader of being populist/popular,. In NZ it seems National takes those honours.

There is a difference between populist and popular.

If somebody is popular it means that the people (lat: populus) do love this person.

If somebody is populist it means that this person tries to be popular by promising simple solutions to complex problems which don't work (but sound good, particularly for simple minds and brains under the influence ...).

Little is clearly not popular, but he often tries to be populist - though he obviously can't reach the NZ master in populism: Winston First, who is not just unchallenged in his populism but as well more popular than Little (though not as popular as English .

Clear as mud?

[elZorro]

Just a few accusations about her being a pizzhead and drug user, as well as a prostitute and benefit cheat. I don't think many would believe it, not even eZ - and if there was an element of truth in it journalists would be creaming themselves all over it.

Well you said it FP, she was obviously adrift there for a while, was a young solo mother, was working the night shift at Stag Park, all that is documented by National Party sanctioned press releases. If you have a look at Stag Park online, it has cabin or motel-like accommodation for truck drivers. I think there could be more than an element of truth in the accusations. Govt records could hold the key to the rest of it.

And this is the best the National Party can come up with, as a deputy leader? They aren't setting the bar too high. Will National be putting her profile on their hoardings?

[fungus pudding]

Well you said it FP, she was obviously adrift there for a while, was a young solo mother, was working the night shift at Stag Park, all that is documented by National Party sanctioned press releases. If you have a look at Stag Park online, it has cabin or motel-like accommodation for truck drivers. I think there could be more than an element of truth in the accusations.

Of course you think that. She's not a Labour MP, and therefore obviously guilty.