If National wins ...

[Major von Tempsky]

What's the best way to beat the market & gain entry to the booming Auckland housing market? Buy a house from the government!
They are selling houses under book value & you can bet book value is substantially below market value.
And they will even lend you the money to help the developers, build properties they can sell on the open market!
If anyone else did this they would be sacked for negligence.
Its absolutely criminal.

I don't understand? Laughter! It's you that doesn't understand!

You (Daytr) advocated that the Government should invest more in Power Generation, despite it now effectively, functionally, being in the private sector and being in surplus and likely to be a lot more in surplus in the future. Page C20, The Press Saturday August 29 2015 "Mighty River Power Dips.
(MRP) This year it announced it would close Southdown, Contact recently announced plans to shut the Otahuhu power station in Auckland, and Genesis Energy plans to shut its last two coal fired units at Huntly at the end of 2018. In total more than 1,000 megawatts of generation is expected to come out of the system by the end of 2018 indicating the extent of the present power glut."

And Daytr wants the government to invest in more power generation? Ha! ha! ha!

[Daytr]

Where did I say the government should invest in more power generation?
Do you get tired of debating things people didn't actually say?
As I said, you clearly don't understand it.

[elZorro]

Increasingly, opinion articles are pointing out the lack of true oversight from our current government.

http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/77...31+August+2015

[craic]

That should read "oversight from our government" - if Labour was in power, the same critics would continue to criticise - that is the nature of journalism. That's how they make a living and feed their families.

Increasingly, opinion articles are pointing out the lack of true oversight from our current government.

http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/77...31+August+2015

[Major von Tempsky]

Do you mean "oversight" or the traditional socialist attempted micro-management (a la Helen Clark) and stuffing up the operation of markets?

[elZorro]

Do you mean "oversight" or the traditional socialist attempted micro-management (a la Helen Clark) and stuffing up the operation of markets?

Craic and MVT: the first point is that some fairly bright political commentators and cartoonists are having a fielday with National's decisions and/or ineptitude at the moment. They are even creating new words, like bull****tery. Some of these commentators would have been happier with National in the past, but not now. National will have an uphill battle in the 2017 elections.

Have a look overseas, MVT. Has the US market done a particularly good job of tempering the QE laid on by the FED? No, they lapped it up with no corrections of any size for years, and now the FED starts talking about raising interest rates for once, billions of dollars are lost from the exchanges within days. The market cares only for profits, and now it is fearful. There is not a stable platform there in the USA, and there certainly wouldn't be one here, without govt intervention and oversight when it is needed. Labour did a particularly good job of that over nine years, the data is there at the stats office website, and someone with an economics degree could prove or disprove that - go for it.

[Daytr]

After a damning report in regards Children's Services, National are now looking to privatize some of that as well.
National's strategy is to run something into the ground, and then say its better off in private hands & flog it off or contract it out!
To profit from things like mental health, state housing and vulnerable children or prisons for that matter, is deplorable.
Where is society heading if we as a nation don't take responsibility for looking after our needy and vulnerable?
Profiting from these sorts of services presents a massive conflict of interest, something John key wouldn't recognize if it smacked him in the face.
This Serco debacle should give all and sundry due warning of what we are in for under the corporatisation of government services.
Absolute chaos, corruption and other illegal activity followed up by the company responsible in full denial mode.
These are the most vulnerable people in our society.
Who will speak for them when they are being taken advantage of for the sake of saving money so a higher dividend can be paid to shareholders?
Absolute disgrace.

[fungus pudding]

[QUOTE=elZorro;589133]Craic and MVT: the first point is that some fairly bright political commentators and cartoonists are having a fielday with National's decisions and/or ineptitude at the moment. They are even creating new words, like bull****tery. Some of these commentators would have been happier with National in the past, but not now. National will have an uphill battle in the 2017 elections.

National will be the govt. after then next election with Winston first as main coalition partner - that of course presupposes Little remains Labour's leader. Things could change if that changes.

[fungus pudding]

[QUOTE=elZorro;589133]Craic and MVT: the first point is that some fairly bright political commentators and cartoonists are having a fielday with National's decisions and/or ineptitude at the moment. They are even creating new words, like bull****tery. Some of these commentators would have been happier with National in the past, but not now. National will have an uphill battle in the 2017 elections.

National will be the govt. after then next election with Winston first as main coalition partner - that of course presupposes Little remains Labour's leader. Things could change if that changes.

[Daytr]

I love the way you put things, like they are facts. Such over confidence. Its certainly one question I'll be asking of Peters before the next election, as he wont be getting my vote if he sides with Key's National & I'm sure many of NZF supporters feel the same way.
I see National have taken another hit on the polls recently. Finally the electorate is waking up to this megalomaniac.

National will be the govt. after then next election with Winston first as main coalition partner - that of course presupposes Little remains Labour's leader. Things could change if that changes.[/QUOTE]