If National wins ...

[elZorro]

Winston should look to a party that is keen on small business and in developing the regions, along with urban areas. A party that has demonstrated they know how to grow the pie for everyone, not just pretend that they are doing something. This party will also have some ideas for bringing along those with the least resources, because we all know that jobs and opportunities are empowering. That would really be sending National a message.

[iceman]

Thanks napoleoll. Like you, I don't doubt for one minute that daytr is belgarion returned in disguise but apparently he has moved to Northland and become an ex know it all. I feel sorry for him and EZ ,the gullible supporter !!!

[elZorro]

Thanks napoleoll. Like you, I don't doubt for one minute that daytr is belgarion returned in disguise but apparently he has moved to Northland and become an ex know it all. I feel sorry for him and EZ ,the gullible supporter !!!

?? I am an informed supporter, I have the stats behind me, Iceman.

I don't think Daytr is Belgarian, although they both have occasional spelling/typo issues. Belgarian had a lot more of the facts taken on board already. Why you guys think there could only be a couple of lefties in all of NZ, is beyond me. Think grey, not black and white

[iceman]

You are indeed mate. Just tongue in cheek and apologies if you took it the wrong way.

?? I am an informed supporter, I have the stats behind me, Iceman.

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[Major von Tempsky]

Here is an extract from a BBC report on the French elections where the Socialists are getting a very big beating from the right wing UMP.

"The French left, like the left everywhere, has always been prone to subdivision.

Now the rebellious faction of the Socialists is joining with the radical Left Front of Jean-Luc Melenchon to call for an end to Mr Hollande's mildly pro-market reforms.

We lost because we stopped being true to our left-wing selves, is the argument. "

This a very illogical reaction from left wings everywhere. They don't lose because they aren't left wing enough, they lose because they are too left wing. If they react by becoming more left wing then they are going to lose by even more next time.
Morons.

[Sgt Pepper]

Here is an extract from a BBC report on the French elections where the Socialists are getting a very big beating from the right wing UMP.

"The French left, like the left everywhere, has always been prone to subdivision.

Now the rebellious faction of the Socialists is joining with the radical Left Front of Jean-Luc Melenchon to call for an end to Mr Hollande's mildly pro-market reforms.

We lost because we stopped being true to our left-wing selves, is the argument. "

This a very illogical reaction from left wings everywhere. They don't lose because they aren't left wing enough, they lose because they are too left wing. If they react by becoming more left wing then they are going to lose by even more next time.
Morons.

Major

There is always a deafening silence from you regarding Social Democrat governments. I can understand this as socially and economically successful left of centre governments I guess pose a bit of an ideological dilemma for you. I know it must be difficult reconciling how such economic basket cases, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway Sweden and Finland who consistently elect social democrat administrations can develop such advanced multinational companies. I work in the health sector, Novo Nordisk is the largest insulin producer, profit last year : 25 billion One of many examples. Those social democrat lefties must be doing something right!!

[Major von Tempsky]

Yes, they are doing several things right....

(a) they allow democracy
(b) they allow the rule of law
(c) they allow a free Press and media
(d) they allow free enterprise and no longer nationalize firms but in fact have been privatizing them
(e) they allow themselves to be replaced as the government by free enterprise governments from time to time.

In fact it was my impression that in recent years this had been happening more and more, in fact I clearly remember when it happened in Sweden....

[slimwin]

Sweden has only just gone back to a left wing govt. And the the foreign minister has just picked a fight with one of their biggest paymasters.


http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/...ncerns-us-all/

[slimwin]

Finland have done very well on basically one company. How's that for diversification.

http://www.economist.com/node/21560867

[slimwin]

And Norway has the oil of course.

Without looking into too much, last I heard was Netherlands politics are a basket case and the economy not so flash either.