You are so one eyed, you should become a pirate. Tauranga is booming and Peters has to be given some credit for that, like him or not.
Northland now has Winston Peters as its MP not someone from Southland, so we now have a high profile MP rather than a novice that no one had heard of representing a party that abandoned Northland long ago. We had nothing to lose. And something does change which you fail to recognize through your one eye & its fundamental. Winston Peters represents Northland & he is the leader of his party. Northland is actually on the map purely because he stood. We used to get one day of publicity a year, Waitangi day, now that will change to & we will start getting a fair share of funding & attention.
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Congratulations to Ria Bond, the likely new Southland list MP of NZ First. She is the next on the NZ First list with Winston having now his own electorate (though we don't know yet, whether she will accept the new job)! If she does, I am sure she will be highly committed to the people of Northland who brought her into office.
Actually, I am wondering whether the people currently rejoicing with this election result will really turn out to be the ultimate winners of this election?
So lets see:
The people of Northland get the candidate they voted for. Did they win though? Actually, I don't know, but I can't remember Winston doing a lot for his previous constituencies (Tauranga), so why should it be different this time? On the other hand - never before this election heard of the National candidate, and at the end it probably doesn't really matter whether Osborne from Northland or Bond from Southland (Invercargill) are now drawing a MP's salary (remember - nothing changes for Peters, he is already a sitting MP, just slipping from List-MP to directly elected).
The people of New Zealand - actually, I do see some winners here. National stopped to listen to the people (same as Helen in her third term). This election might act as a warning shot in front of their bow - and who knows, maybe the current government starts to consider again the wishes of the people (ever the optimist ...).
The Green / Left: They are rejoicing the most ... and I am not quite sure whether they really won. Winston is clearly neither Green nor Left - and the past shows that he is very happy to work with the people offering him the bigger baubles ...
National: Will be interesting to see how they are playing it, but this event very well might be a healing shock for a party which slowly stopped to listen to the people. If they get the message (Thanks Winston) than this might be the key event helping them to get their act again together, restart to listen and continue their reign come 2017. Two and a half years should be plenty to regroup and improve.
I guess time will tell - but nothing better than a lost election to keep politicians on their toes.
Hopefully you find my posts helpful, but in no way should they be construed as advice. Make your own decision.
I just updated a chart of employee and enterprise numbers. You can see the brisk rate of improvement under Labour, the drop back and slow recovery under National. So now, we're back to where we were in 2008. Except there's been a population increase meanwhile.
You are so one eyed, you should become a pirate. Tauranga is booming and Peters has to be given some credit for that, like him or not.
Northland now has Winston Peters as its MP not someone from Southland, so we now have a high profile MP rather than a novice that no one had heard of representing a party that abandoned Northland long ago. We had nothing to lose. And something does change which you fail to recognize through your one eye & its fundamental. Winston Peters represents Northland & he is the leader of his party. Northland is actually on the map purely because he stood. We used to get one day of publicity a year, Waitangi day, now that will change to & we will start getting a fair share of funding & attention.
Daytr, I wish you well. I remember that Winston used to compare himself some days ago with Konrad Adenauer (first chancellor of West Germany after WWII). I give him that he is now reaching the age when Adenauer first took his post as chancellor (well, still 4 years to go - Adenauer started with age 73), but I sincerely wish for Northland that Winston will as well reach Adenauer's political format. Still somewhat lacking at current, I'd say. But than - with people like you as his constituents, nobody will notice anyway. You seem to be easy to please . I hope you enjoy every day of Winston being your personal MP. If you want to do the rest of NZ a favour - please keep him!
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
Just a quick note on soaring government debt under National. There is a misconception that Government income via tax etc plummeted during the GFC.
They did level off & dip slightly for a couple of years but since then have soared & yet government debt continues to grow & they have also sold billions of dollars of assets. Anyone can borrow money to fund a program, the test is can you re-pay it & and this point there is no indication from National that this is even close to be the case.
NZ Government income since 2000 to 2014.
Year
Tax receipts
2000
36,001
2001
38,002
2002
41,199
2003
44,040
2004
48,015
2005
52,626
2006
55,198
2007
59,323
2008
57,673
2009
55,388
2010
56,397
2011
58,327
2012
62,217
2013
66,347
2014
70,609
Hopefully you find my posts helpful, but in no way should they be construed as advice. Make your own decision.
Labour - Willow-Jean Prime 1,315. One of their better candidates.
If someone wants to protest they will now vote NZ First. Not only will Labour drop 1% in polls because of Northland lots of other Labour voters will switch to NZ First in polls.
Little turned chicken, Chicken Little.
And now Winston says he may not replace the NZ First list place which means the National majority stays the same and Little gave away the Labour votes for nothing.
And Winston has no power to implement any of his $400 million of promises. Heh heh heh. New port? New railway? New fast train?
MVT, I think you & BlackPeter should form a comedy duo. Your posts are obviously satirical right? They have little bearing on reality so I can only assume that is the case. ;-) Only one eyed National supporters could spin this result that its worse for Labour than National. It was a massive black eye for Key & National, there is no other way of putting it. Labour in the end openly endorsed Peters & that is why the victory was so big & it would have been a close run thing without that endorsement. It was only after that endorsement that the polls for Peters surged to a 20 point lead from a small lead prior. But according to some here, people say one thing & vote another. Well that didn't happen. And when there is a massive reduction in National support of over 5k votes from memory, somehow its worse for Labour than National. Don't get me wrong this result was no endorsement for Labour, but it was a vote of no confidence in National.
In regards the parliamentary numbers actually it makes no difference having the additional member in regards who National would need to support a bill, otherwise I assure you Peters wouldn't be considering not bringing in the extra MP. Its consistent with their policy of a smaller parliament. Personally I think they should bring in the additional MP as you never know what can happen between now & the next election.
Hopefully you find my posts helpful, but in no way should they be construed as advice. Make your own decision.
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Originally Posted by BlackPeter
. I hope you enjoy every day of Winston being your personal MP. If you want to do the rest of NZ a favour - please keep him!
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