If National wins ...

[fungus pudding]

Good article by Martin von Beynen re TPPA in today's paper (Press/Dom).

This seems to be the one The Major means. Found it in Christchurch press.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...-from-the-tppa

[Daytr]

I fail to see what is good about the article. "trust the experts" ! That's great journalism there.
And the group he names that are anti is reason enough to think it must be a good deal.
Another Pulitzer there. Apparently the ABs are fantastic when they are in their jocks in the changing room exchanging dodgy handshakes with Key.
But how dare some of them have an opinion that doesn't fit with Key's fantasy.

[Daytr]

As someone that has been to the Waitangi celebrations in recent years, don't always believe what the media beefs up.
Its actually a very cool day to witness.
This year obviously its a bit more contentious than some others due to the TPPA signing.
Honestly what was Key thinking, timing the signing at the same time as Waitangi? Oh yeah he wasn't, it as about his ego again & making a big splash.

Listening to some of the protestors one has the feeling that many would not be able to explain what the letters TPPA actually stand for, or am I being unkind? personally I , and many others are rather tired of the annual tedious bitching session that Waitangi Day has evolved into. Just my opinion.

[fungus pudding]

As someone that has been to the Waitangi celebrations in recent years, don't always believe what the media beefs up.
Its actually a very cool day to witness.
This year obviously its a bit more contentious than some others due to the TPPA signing.
Honestly what was Key thinking, timing the signing at the same time as Waitangi? Oh yeah he wasn't, it as about his ego again & making a big splash.

It would have made no difference whatever day of the year the TPPA was signed. That ignorant bunch of rif-raf would have found something to stir about. They never fail.

[Daytr]

Who are you exactly calling ignorant & rif-raf?

It would have made no difference whatever day of the year the TPPA was signed. That ignorant bunch of rif-raf would have found something to stir about. They never fail.

[fungus pudding]

Who are you exactly calling ignorant & rif-raf?

I'm sorry, but I don't know the names of the rif-raf, but for a start the fellow on TV who had a tattoo where his face used to be, threatening the P.M.

[Daytr]

It came across as a racist generalization FP.
Have you ever been to Waitangi on the day?

[fungus pudding]

It came across as a racist generalization FP.
Have you ever been to Waitangi on the day?

No. Haven't been on Waitangi day. Not interested in going. Not sure what was racist. If you are referring to my mention of tattooed faces, then that identifies some as Maoris, but to mention tattoos is hardly racist.

[iceman]

It came across as a racist generalization FP.
Have you ever been to Waitangi on the day?

Each to their own. I can not understand how FP's comment could be taken as racist. He was referring to the protesters in general

[Daytr]

Nope, it was more your generalist mention of ignorant rif-raf. And yes the comment about the traditional facial tattoo or moko. "where his face used to be" Many pacific islanders tattoo their waste, buttocks & legs, Māori tattooed their face.
I think we are seeing an insight into the real FP.

Living in Northland you get to mix with Māori a lot and get to understand what a generous & beautiful culture they have.