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25-04-2016, 09:50 AM
#10241
Originally Posted by tim23
Typical of you Torys - you seem to think you have a God given right to rule - its pathetic.
And it's attitudes like yours that put people off voting Labour. The use of the word "torys" sum you up really. Glass half empty thinking.
Right to rule? The voters select who they want to lead.
Last edited by 777; 25-04-2016 at 09:55 AM.
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25-04-2016, 11:43 AM
#10242
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
But they're no good at that either. Winston first, on his own, provides more effective opposition than Labour. Can't govern, can't oppose - the party is dead.
A headline from the Conservative supporting Telegraph in 2013. The lesson? Be very careful about premature political obituaries
"It's two years away, but the 2015 election is already lost
Four factors conspire to make a Tory majority an outright impossibility"
Last edited by Sgt Pepper; 25-04-2016 at 11:44 AM.
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25-04-2016, 11:55 AM
#10243
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25-04-2016, 02:59 PM
#10244
No the word Torys sums you have rather nicely - how would you know about my thinking don't such a prat.
Originally Posted by 777
And it's attitudes like yours that put people off voting Labour. The use of the word "torys" sum you up really. Glass half empty thinking.
Right to rule? The voters select who they want to lead.
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25-04-2016, 04:35 PM
#10245
Originally Posted by tim23
No the word Torys sums you have rather nicely - how would you know about my thinking don't such a prat.
Roll on more charter schools. It's rare to see such a short sentence with so many mistakes in it (spelling, punctuation and grammar) that it can't be understood. Not that it matters.
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25-04-2016, 05:36 PM
#10246
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
He's talking about the price of a house. Interest rates were as high as 4 times the current rate. The cost was much the same as today. Properties were normally financed through a solicitor's nominee company with first mortgage restricted to 66% of valuation. Second and third mortgages were sometimes available and expensive.
First homes were invariably financed by the State Advances with a 3 or 5% mortgage. Have a section and no deposit was required. You only reverted to other institutions if you did not meet S.A. criteria.
Houses were basic compared with those turned out by developers today. Bare section, no fences, paths or landscaping. The developer can maximise profits by adding all the extras (required ?) today.
Big opportunities for Labour to go back to their roots and look after the ordinary family.
Little doesn’t have to speak like a BBC announcer he just needs policies which match the needs of working people.
westerly
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25-04-2016, 06:30 PM
#10247
You are right - it doesn't matter too much, sure 777 got the point though.
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
Roll on more charter schools. It's rare to see such a short sentence with so many mistakes in it (spelling, punctuation and grammar) that it can't be understood. Not that it matters.
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25-04-2016, 06:34 PM
#10248
Originally Posted by tim23
You are right - it doesn't matter too much, sure 777 got the point though.
Not worried about 777 and I'm sure 777 isn't either. It would only matter to someone who was trying to make sense of it. That's probably only eZ anyway.
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25-04-2016, 06:42 PM
#10249
Who are you - his big brother?
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
Not worried about 777 and I'm sure 777 isn't either. It would only matter to someone who was trying to make sense of it. That's probably only eZ anyway.
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25-04-2016, 06:44 PM
#10250
Originally Posted by westerly
First homes were invariably financed by the State Advances with a 3 or 5% mortgage. Have a section and no deposit was required. You only reverted to other institutions if you did not meet S.A. criteria.
westerly
That sort of policy helps no-one. Sounded good at the time, but think how much cheaper homes would have been without subsidies. Great example was the sweat equity scheme in the 80s. It was easy to get a package deal to a house that needed work. A similar age and style of house in immaculate condition was always cheaper.
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