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    That might be stretching it slightly, but Key did ask him to ring McLay.
    Why should this lawyer get preferential treatment. Why wasn't he just referee to the IRD?
    The IRD urges the government to review foreign trusts in Dec 2014.
    Why wouldn't the government have taken their advice ?
    Something smells, big time.


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    So in your opinion , JK rang up his lawyer and told him to lobby McLay. Stretching it again eZ.
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    AMAZING - must see chart

    @bernardchickey: Here's the most interesting chart in NZ's political economy right now. Migration and NZ First support. https://t.co/idDni18Smk
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    i was not aware that the inland revenue department was a political football and that its board / governors were / are influenced by lawyers
    or voted in politicians.
    but then its easy for commentators to make up stories or scenarios to make a political point.
    here is the ird charter

    Inland Revenue's Charter

    Inland Revenue collects money to pay for public services. We help people to meet their obligations and receive their entitlements. We work within the Inland Revenue Acts and other relevant laws, and our actions are consistent with the spirit of the Treaty of Waitangi. .

    and the source for more "real" info
    https://www.ird.govt.nz/aboutir/comm...r-charter.html

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    Well Neopole, you should be by now.
    Its a valid question.
    Why didn't the government heed the IRDs advice on reviewing foreign trusts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Well Neopole, you should be by now.
    Its a valid question.
    Why didn't the government heed the IRDs advice on reviewing foreign trusts?
    Because JK didn't like the idea, and certainly his tax advisor didn't.

    http://thestandard.org.nz/tax-haven-...-for-national/

    John made sure the tax rate on foreign trusts went from 28% to 0%, then he later protected these trusts from review by inference. He was just on TV1 about it, blustered his way through. Yeah sure, we have to wait for the OECD, and there's no point us stopping our tax haven here, as there are others available overseas.

    Oh, fair enough, that makes perfect sense, as long as you're the one with money in these trusts. Show us yer tax returns John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    AMAZING - must see chart

    @bernardchickey: Here's the most interesting chart in NZ's political economy right now. Migration and NZ First support. https://t.co/idDni18Smk
    So Winston should be encouraging more and more immigrants to cone here

    Or is it the returning nz'ers?
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    So Winston should be encouraging more and more immigrants to cone here

    Or is it the returning nz'ers?
    I must admit, that graph of net immigration against NZ First's polling shows a good correlation, W69. Not as good as against increasing Auckland house prices, but close. Winston has no doubt seen that graph already, years ago.

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    EZ - you must find 5 minutes to read this brilliant piece. One day there will be an uprising / revolution (or tyranny) in NZ - maybe Labour should lead it (nah it has to besomebody else)

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...itter-share-di

    Democracies end when they are too democratic.
    And right now, America is a breeding ground for tyranny.
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    National are now looking to privatize child serviced with experimental social bonds.
    I like some of the things they are suggesting with the actual service, however there is absolutely no need for privatized funding.
    Just fund the services properly. If they think it can be successful just plan it, implement and do it within government.

    Meanwhile they are selling off a major component of Kiwi bank .
    Why on earth are they looking to commercialize a bank set up by the government to assist Kiwis get into a house, at the time when they need it most ?
    What are they thinking.
    They are out of touch and out of control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    EZ - you must find 5 minutes to read this brilliant piece. One day there will be an uprising / revolution (or tyranny) in NZ - maybe Labour should lead it (nah it has to besomebody else)

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...itter-share-di

    Democracies end when they are too democratic.
    And right now, America is a breeding ground for tyranny.
    I must be a slow reader, W69. That took longer than 5 minutes to read and digest. It's certainly well-written. I think I can identify with that frustration and simmering anger that was mentioned, on behalf of the vast majority. Inequality has increased, however, not decreased.

    Is John Key our muted version of Donald Trump? Does he like to just make up new rules, cement old ones, continue with his investments which are his wealth base while in office, and change policies on the fly when it suits, just to stay in power? He was also a political outsider, which is interesting.

    Colin James's Otago Daily Times column for 3 May 2016

    A character reputation being put to the test

    Is someone who does not pay a fair share of tax a person of "good character"?

    The Overseas Investment Office (OIO) OK-ed tax-haven law firm Mossack Fonseca clients Rafael and Federico Grozovsky (also convicted of serious pollution in Argentina) to buy land in Taranaki.

    John Key and his personal lawyer think that harbouring trusts here through which foreigners escape tax at home is good for us. It earns millions of dollars.

    But beyond the dollars lies reputation. Small and with zero clout, New Zealand trades on a reputation for commercial and political cleanliness.

    The Inland Revenue Department (IRD) bothered about that reputation in 2013 and proposed tightening the law: it reported international "criticism, including claims that New Zealand is now a tax haven in respect of trusts". Key's lawyer got an inside track to the Revenue Minister and IRD was stopped in its tracks.

    Good for Key's lawyer's business. Not good for the country's reputation.

    Also not good for that reputation was confirmation last week that Ukrainian and Russian greenhouse gas emissions credits, mainstay of the emissions trading scheme, are "hot air".

    That is, like tax evaders, they are fraudulent.

    Paula Bennett initially arrogantly dismissed that research, then at the weekend said climate change "is actually about our identity and us as a country" -- that is, our reputation.

    The tourism sector, too, bothered last week about reputation: poor water quality is a risk to its primary drawcard for foreign customers, our (not-100%-pure) landscape. It complained that only some of the Land and Water Forum's recommendations have been acted on.

    Key's conduct on such issues is instructive.

    He initially dismissed the Panama papers exposure of this country as a nice place for dubious sorts to do business as irrelevant because of a 2013 OECD "clean bill of health".

    When, oops, that didn't work -- not least because of his career at Merrill Lynch, a player in the shenanigans that led to the global financial crisis (GFC) -- he got his accounts examined and, it appears, a clean bill. Then he got John Shewan to do an inquiry with relatively narrow terms of reference.

    Then came the Taranaki purchase. Key said the link to Mossack Fonseca was "irrelevant". The Grozokskys had not been found to be not of good character. Oops. Well, the OIO could force them to sell and the OIO was being "beefed up".

    Put that with the "jihadi brides" scare he pumped up, using (misusing?) briefings by Security Intelligence Service director Rebecca Kitteridge. Turned out they all went from Australia. That is, there was no evidence of radicalisation here and so no basis for winding up fear.

    Then suddenly on April 17 Key floated a possible land tax on foreigners buying houses.

    Remember (1) the cabinet rejected a land tax in 2010 when the tax working group considered it, (2) National said before the 2014 election there would be no new taxes (then suddenly in the 2015 budget slapped a capital gains tax on quick re-sales of houses) and (3) last year Key scoffed at Labour suggestions that foreign buyers were a distorting factor in Auckland's wild market.

    How come Key's switch? Key said governments have to respond to events regardless of election promises. People understand. (As they would over the pension age but that is another matter.)

    Key in effect was saying that an election is a mandate to govern, not for individual commitments. That is the exact opposite of his claim that his 2011 election mandate included the specific of selling down state-owned enterprises even though there were two-thirds majorities against selldowns.

    If there is a land tax in the budget, National will have legitimised for future Labour-led cabinets both tax on income from capital gains and tax on wealth.

    These are major changes of tax principle.

    But Key is a politician of presentation, not principle. He is good at it: mud doesn't stick.

    An example: Key blunts the bad news of young people not affording spiral-priced houses by shining a rosy spotlight on those made wealthier by rising prices of houses bought a while back and gifted with more post-mortgage income because interest rates have fallen very low.

    The flipside is debt, driven by recent buyers' huge mortgages. Westpac economists calculate that the household debt-to-disposable-income ratio is back above its frighteningly high pre-GFC levels.

    The higher that debt, the less the debtors have to spend to keep the economy buzzing.

    That poses a challenge for Bill English, whose cabinet mandate is to maximise gross domestic product (GDP) growth. (On Friday the Economist pronounced GDP deeply flawed as a measure of material wellbeing, a topic explored here in the past, but English sticks with GDP as his measure.)

    Nevertheless, on budget day Key will assure us the economy is just fine. And, as with the Panama papers, climate policy, housing and much else, most will think that plausible.

    One day it won't be. Meantime, on to the next Key show.

    Colin James, mobile 64-21-438 434, landline 64-4-384 7030, PO Box 9494, Marion Square, Wellington 6141, New Zealand ColinJames@synapsis.co.nz, www.ColinJames.co.nz


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