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    Quote Originally Posted by 777 View Post
    Having Jacinda there achieves exactly what the voters would want. No by-election and replace departing MP with someone on the list.
    I don't think that's legal. It would be simpler and cheaper. But this way, Labour gets to reinforce their dominance at the moment. It's funny how much poor work behind the scenes by National, John Key seemed to hide. Labour people can see it, but not many of the gung-ho neo-liberals and general public seemed to notice.

    Current poor state of the Mt Albert electorate office. If Jacinda knows what she's doing, it'll get a big tidy-up.

    Paula "Hyperbowl" Bennett, the Minister of Everything? God help us. She still has Climate Change (don't worry, it's not a biggie).

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...inet-reshuffle

    There is a clear and present danger in passing too much responsibility to people who are not competent enough to handle it.
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    Of course it's not legal. It would be outside the current rules but the rules could/should be changed.

    I don't believe ,as you do, that Labour will gain anything from participating in the by-election. The result is a forgone conclusion and voter turn out will be zilch. Labour voters know their vote is not needed and National voters won't bother voting so the whole exercise is futile.

    And this is how National read it so thumbs up to them. Get on with running the country and skip the side show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    I don't think that's legal. It would be simpler and cheaper. But this way, Labour gets to reinforce their dominance at the moment.
    Even for you that is a ridiculous comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 777 View Post
    Of course it's not legal. It would be outside the current rules but the rules could/should be changed.

    I don't believe ,as you do, that Labour will gain anything from participating in the by-election. The result is a forgone conclusion and voter turn out will be zilch. Labour voters know their vote is not needed and National voters won't bother voting so the whole exercise is futile.

    And this is how National read it so thumbs up to them. Get on with running the country and skip the side show.
    I don't think the Mt Albert by-election will be a sideshow. I think you'll see the full effort of the Labour party people on the ground, they'll most likely have a very popular candidate who is clearly up to the job and lives in the electorate, who has done a lot of time in front of the camera and always handled it well. National were correct to assume that this electorate will stay with a Labour MP, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't front up and try to compete.

    It's the same type of action they have been using for eight years with the wider country - if things go wrong then pretend it doesn't matter, mouth a few good intentions at a TV camera, or at worst try a diluted version of Labour policy.

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    Aha! now we know why Labour keep winning elections, year in and year out!
    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    I don't think the Mt Albert by-election will be a sideshow. I think you'll see the full effort of the Labour party people on the ground, they'll most likely have a very popular candidate who is clearly up to the job and lives in the electorate, who has done a lot of time in front of the camera and always handled it well. National were correct to assume that this electorate will stay with a Labour MP, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't front up and try to compete.

    It's the same type of action they have been using for eight years with the wider country - if things go wrong then pretend it doesn't matter, mouth a few good intentions at a TV camera, or at worst try a diluted version of Labour policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post
    It's the same type of action they have been using for eight years with the wider country - if things go wrong then pretend it doesn't matter, mouth a few good intentions at a TV camera, or at worst try a diluted version of Labour policy.
    Or come up with a diversion.
    Flag debate anyone?

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    Nats chicken out of Mt Albert

    Match race between Greens and Labour - interesting

    Or will Greens not stand either (or have they already decided not to in interest of their partnership)
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Nats chicken out of Mt Albert

    Match race between Greens and Labour - interesting

    Or will Greens not stand either
    Is there anybody in the entire planet who cares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Is there anybody in the entire planet who cares?
    Well for a start perhaps the 10000 people who voted for the National Party Mt Eden candidate in the 2014 Election .
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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Is there anybody in the entire planet who cares?
    Well, yes - the handful of Labour supporters in NZ. Given that it is Labour imposing the absolutely unnecessary cost of a by election less than a year before the next general election on the country (for no good reason other than p..sing off their own MP's), they hoped they can find somebody else to share the shame for being huge wasters of taxpayers money.

    Good to see National didn't take the bait. Fight the battles which matter.
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