If National wins ...

[dobby41]

No, I'm not joking, perhaps you missed my point which is to call out El Z's reference to some obligation for "goodwill towards the NZ taxpayer".

Despite all that is questionable about the process and clearly there are questions, perhaps you can enlighten us, because El Z has not, yet you support his notion apparently, on what obligation any immigrant investor with their millions has to "goodwill towards the NZ taxpayer".

There has been the suggestion that his citizenship was OK because he gave $1m to the earthquake appeal ($1m out of how many billion?) and invested in Xero (how many others invested in Xero? Give them all citizenship!).
There was also a suggestion in his application that he would spread our good name far and wide but this didn't seem to happen - the actual fact he became a citizen only just came to light many years later.

He has shown little interest in NZ - it was a business deal and good for his pocket.

[elZorro]

There has been the suggestion that his citizenship was OK because he gave $1m to the earthquake appeal ($1m out of how many billion?) and invested in Xero (how many others invested in Xero? Give them all citizenship!).
There was also a suggestion in his application that he would spread our good name far and wide but this didn't seem to happen - the actual fact he became a citizen only just came to light many years later.

He has shown little interest in NZ - it was a business deal and good for his pocket.

What about the other deals that National has done for the private sector? Privatising SOEs at very quick net losses to the taxpayer in just the last three years?

https://thestandard.org.nz/the-soe-s...hree-years-on/

This is a ruthless, calculating political party in office, one that just doesn't have NZ's interests at heart. Vote them out, before it's too late.

[blackcap]

What about the other deals that National has done for the private sector? Privatising SOEs at very quick net losses to the taxpayer in just the last three years?

https://thestandard.org.nz/the-soe-s...hree-years-on/

This is a ruthless, calculating political party in office, one that just doesn't have NZ's interests at heart. Vote them out, before it's too late.

Not going to happen if you read the huge infighting going on in the Labour ranks according to said site quoted above

[elZorro]

Not going to happen if you read the huge infighting going on in the Labour ranks according to said site quoted above

That's not huge infighting, that's normal for Labour. They like to discuss stuff openly and argue their points of view. In the end they'll come up with the right decision, whether Jackson is a good fit for Labour, or not. At least he has the message already, he'd better watch himself and the way he behaves, if he gets high up the list, where everyone else wants to be.

[blackcap]

That's not huge infighting, that's normal for Labour. They like to discuss stuff openly and argue their points of view. In the end they'll come up with the right decision, whether Jackson is a good fit for Labour, or not. At least he has the message already, he'd better watch himself and the way he behaves, if he gets high up the list, where everyone else wants to be.

Wow if that's normal for Labour... I now know why they get alienated :P hmmm if recent polling is anything to go by won't he (Jackson) have to be about number 2 or 3 on the list to get in? In fact poll under 25% on election night and Andrew Little may not even get in. Now that would be amusing!

p.s even Katie Bradford on One News was saying this public spat was bad for Labour.....

[fungus pudding]

That's not huge infighting, that's normal for Labour. They like to discuss stuff openly and argue their points of view.

Sure eZ. Whatever you say. Nothing at all behind closed doors? How suprising - lot of fake news around then.

[Baa_Baa]

That's not huge infighting, that's normal for Labour. They like to discuss stuff openly and argue their points of view. In the end they'll come up with the right decision, whether Jackson is a good fit for Labour, or not. At least he has the message already, he'd better watch himself and the way he behaves, if he gets high up the list, where everyone else wants to be.

Terrible decision, like self inflicted wounds, Labour (or Little) has lot the plot here and the desperation is palpable. Jackson is an uncontrollable motormouth, he has never "got the message" and will never "watch himself and the way he behaves".

Goodness know why Little would take such a high risk bringing a loose cannon into the List in such a high ranking, already he's had to ameliorate the fallout and demote Jackson a notch or two by implied or actual ascension.

Also poor tactics from Little, by announcing this openly before working through the internal conflicts, as Jackson will galvanise internal Labour opinion and the whole thing could easily turn into another embarrassing debacle.

That said, they're good at working through debacles, albeit after they've lost an election, they have three terms in opposition as evidence for their appalling choices of candidacies in the times when they needed stability, level heads and profound leadership that captures the populations hearts, minds and imagination.

Can't see this working out well for Labour in any way shape or form.

[fungus pudding]

Terrible decision, like self inflicted wounds, Labour (or Little) has lot the plot here and the desperation is palpable. Jackson is an uncontrollable motormouth, he has never "got the message" and will never "watch himself and the way he behaves".

Goodness know why Little would take such a high risk bringing a loose cannon into the List in such a high ranking, already he's had to ameliorate the fallout and demote Jackson a notch or two by implied or actual ascension.

Also poor tactics from Little, by announcing this openly before working through the internal conflicts, as Jackson will galvanise internal Labour opinion and the whole thing could easily turn into another embarrassing debacle.

That said, they're good at working through debacles, albeit after they've lost an election, they have three terms in opposition as evidence for their appalling choices of candidacies in the times when they needed stability, level heads and profound leadership that captures the populations hearts, minds and imagination.

Can't see this working out well for Labour in any way shape or form.

Laila Harre and now Jackson, both burnt out leftovers from the Alliance. Looks like the super red McArten might be behind the recruiting for Labour. Bit of a laugh coming up here I'd say.

[Baa_Baa]

Furthermore, Jackson has the type of baggage that can never ever be unloaded. It's like the crass and common joke about the upstanding politician who achieved great things in his career, but for the the one time that he f&*^#d the goat, for ever on to be known as the .. 'goat [?]'... yeah, you know that joke.

Jackson will never ever escape his self inflicted down-trou on his 'roast busters' interview. It will haunt him for the rest of his days, why? Because no matter how he sugar coats it, apologises for it, humbles himself against it, it is the actual words on the actual day that says everything about the man, his beliefs and the scum bag that he is.

Bad choice Mr Little, very bad choice.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11795187

"Labour's spokeswoman on family and sexual violence, Poto Williams, tweeted today: "I am concerned that Willie Jackson is becoming a Labour Party candidate with a prominent ranking on the list."

Campaigner for victims of sexual violence Louise Nicholas said on Facebook that she was "gutted and disappointed" by the party's decision to take on Jackson."

[Major von Tempsky]

Publicly telling influential back benchers to "pull their heads in" isn't going to do Little much good in Caucus. For everyone who voiced their thoughts there's bound to be at least 10 who didn't but just watched and thought. The leopard can't change his spots, just a matter of time before Jackson and a number of other loose cannon explode.