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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Of course the same thing can be said of the situation 9 years ago - Labour had been in power 9 yrs etc.
    It is at this stage that the current government has to stop blaming the previous crowd (of 9yrs + ago) for any ill in the country and start doing stuff.
    National has been steady but NZ hasn't really moved ahead.
    We still sell commodities and now have much more debt.
    No govt. could have got through the last 9 years without either increasing debt, or causing widespread hardship. National generally have been good managers of the economy. All but eZ would agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    No govt. could have got through the last 9 years without either increasing debt, or causing widespread hardship. National generally have been good managers of the economy. All but eZ would agree.
    Of course I can't agree with that. They should have kept up with the Cullen Fund investments especially at the end of the GFC, they shouldn't have crippled future earnings from a portion of the state assets sold off cheaply, they have squandered R&D funding on big business, they've kept immigration high to hide other issues and in the process wrecked affordable housing in NZ. They've ignored climate change and water issues, they've kept in place or reinforced tax dodging systems, and as Dobby41 so correctly pointed out, we are still commodity exporters by and large.

    Can you name one big picture thing this National Govt has done in nine years? No? That's because they haven't done any of that, they are bereft of competent leaders.

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    For a Labour party stalwart to suggest that National are bereft of competent leaders most be the joke of the century. When their current unfortunate is capable of saying his own name without reading it off a pad, then they will be moving in the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craic View Post
    For a Labour party stalwart to suggest that National are bereft of competent leaders most be the joke of the century. When their current unfortunate is capable of saying his own name without reading it off a pad, then they will be moving in the right direction.
    But do you have an answer to the question of what big picture thing National have done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elZorro View Post

    Can you name one big picture thing this National Govt has done in nine years?
    Yes. They've kept Labour out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Yes. They've kept Labour out.
    That is the best you can do?
    You disappoint me but it is all I can see that they have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    That is the best you can do?
    You disappoint me but it is all I can see that they have done.
    What more could you possibly want. They're doing God's work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    What more could you possibly want. They're doing God's work.
    That is a worry. Whose god are they working for?

    westerly

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    Quote Originally Posted by westerly View Post
    That is a worry. Whose god are they working for?

    westerly
    There are several thousand gods. I rate them all equally.

    http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/index.php?search

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    What more could you possibly want. They're doing God's work.
    National are a highly principled party. They are Marxist. .Groucho Marxist, " I've got principles, and if you don't like those, well I've got others"

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