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Not for the Approx 21000 immigrants over the past three years. Plus those already here..... Free Moneeee

[Blackrose]

Hi everyone.

Some $0.02 to throw around.
First up, Winnie turning up in Palmy to see if he could put a populist spin on the Manawatu Gorge thing.
Now having lived in Palmy, and as it's populated by fierce country folk, I was fortunate enough to talk to a senior road engineer, and a mining engineer with regards to the tricky Manawatu Gorge.

Here's some inescapable facts that should be taken in to consideration with regards to this issue.
1. We were talking of an out of date estimate of around 7,000 trips that's 3,500 each way that used that section of road each day. It was a very dangerous section as it could have collapsed at any moment as it was on a 45 degree angle.
2. The geo-technical bit. The rock on the hillside of this gorge is uplifted greywacke volcanic soil, with an active geological fault that is moving at the rate of 40mm apart each year. It has the consistency of wet vitabix, or for the 7th day light bulb changers out there, weetbix.
3. It would cost more than a billion to get a modern roading standard carriage way. Unless we turn in to UAE overnight - NZ could not afford it.

Winny rolled in to town to hear about 200 angry denizens that had not got the full facts in front of them. He knew for the amount of people involved vs the hard reality that it wasn't going to be the bigger media "splash" for him. So apart from a nod from the Manawatu Standard - that show pony was wheeled off to do something else.

It's nice to know the true Winny.

In the mean time that Iside thing pegged me as a greens supporter then labour. Who knew?

[Joshuatree]

Having Winston as Prime Minister would be undesirable. Having Little would be unimaginable.

I like the idea of an altruistic leader in which Little is the real deal; just what this country needs for two terms at least; some real moral fibre and integrity which are sadly totally missing in action with the snouts in the trough zeal of national.Shameful and shameless, but in full transparency.

[craic]

Giving the taxpayers money to losers is not altruism it's muggery. Let's see the man gain the confidence of an electorate, get elected and then get elected after serving his constituents and he might qualify as a potential leader. Taking an unknown union leader with the charm of a possum and sticking him at the top is desperation.

[Major von Tempsky]

"part of a large left wing faction within NZ First?"

That's an oxymoron. A fairy at the bottom of the garden.

I'm ROTFL!

[Joshuatree]

Didn't think being charmed was high priority for you craic; in fact you come across as the opposite; down to earth and no bull , like Little.

[iceman]

Been in the UK for last couple of weeks . Reading the news here one realises how utterly divided and chaotic the UK is at the moment with no real strategy towards BREXIT and deep divisions in the 2 parties still alive and Lib Dems out of action. Enjoyed a dinner with a group that included a Labour MP that is a centrist and has not taken sides with Corbyn. Clearly was not a Corbyn fan and told me that their campaign promises had been totally impossible to implement had they won. Nobody ever expected to win so they went for promising whatever people wanted to hear, with a particular focus on far left and young disgruntled and unmotivated voters. Sadly a large part of that faction is nothing but thugs and is now openly harassing MPs that were not in the Corbyn camp with personal threats even at their home by slashing car tires and dropping stuff at their door step, trying to push them out to get more far left candidates into their seats. The Conservatives are so busy with internal fighting for the top job (May being a dead duck), that they are incapable of seriously negotiating the BREXIT.

My conclusion is that apart from some of the opposition parties in NZ promising a lot of expensive policies that they will find very difficult to deliver on in Government, there is absolutely no comparison between the political situations in NZ and the UK. I think NZ Labour needs to be very careful not to try to copy the tactics of their thuggish brothers and sisters in the UK. It will/would backfire badly for them in the much more stable and pleasant NZ.

[craic]

Very little on here about M Turias situation and how that will impact on the Green vote. Not much sympathy for her in the papers and overnight talk-back callers offer no sympathy. Anyone prepared to start a Give-a-Little page to help her pay back the money?

[Joshuatree]

Impressed with M Turias openesss; this is exactly what this country needs.Lets wait and see if Bennett gets her history reviewed shall we; be good to know if there isn't anything to it to clear the air or not. Anyone else seen a response from her yet? Very quiet atpit .

[fungus pudding]

Impressed with M Turias openesss; this is exactly what this country needs.Lets wait and see if Bennett gets her history reviewed shall we; be good to know if there isn't anything to it to clear the air or not. Anyone else seen a response from her yet? Very quiet atpit .

She claims she has never received a benefit she was not entitles to. Has been reported in several papers.