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25-09-2014, 11:57 AM
#5741
Originally Posted by elZorro
That "Child Poverty" term again. Are kids under 15 looking for jobs now? For God's sake, it's the FAMILY THAT IS POOR that is poor and not the child. Is it being renamed now just like "global warning" is now just "climate change"? No wonder we can never find a solution, the problem or the terminology just keeps on changing.
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25-09-2014, 12:00 PM
#5742
Originally Posted by westerly
You myust be a direct decendant of Hitler ?
I invoke Godwin law!
Step 4 Shareholders do very well from the continual and misleading promotion of these 2 products
westerly
I guess shareholders are really benefitting from a tax on the poor and stupid. And I presume they sleep well at night knowing this ethical position
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25-09-2014, 12:05 PM
#5743
Originally Posted by minimoke
Step one. neuter adults who shouldn't breed
Step two deal to parents who have bred without the ability to care for theri children (see step one)
Step 3 Deal to parent who put their own wants and addictions ahead of the needs of the child (see step one
Step 4 incarcertate parents who see KFC and Coke as economic replacements for nutritious food (along with step one)
Step 4 Stop the cycle (see step one)
MM
step 5: ban supermarkets from selling alcohol
step 6: place 30% tax on sugar drinks
step 7: put sinking lid on pokie machines
step 8: ask for government action on steps 5,6,and 7
step 9: bang your head against brick wall as you realise National has NO INTENTION of delivering on any of these
step 10: business as usual, spend millions of dollars on really important things like:
a) changing the flag ( $10 million)
b) Americas cup ($36 million
c) subsidising Rio Tinto ($ 35 million)
Last edited by Sgt Pepper; 25-09-2014 at 12:16 PM.
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25-09-2014, 12:12 PM
#5744
I see the substance of the Maori Party and United confidence and supply agreement with the National Government has been released
Both parties are CONFIDENT that John Key will SUPPLY them with a Cabinet post and associated Salary.
Apparently the protracted negotiations between United Future, the Maori Party and John Key went on for several seconds before an agreement was reached
Last edited by Sgt Pepper; 25-09-2014 at 12:14 PM.
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25-09-2014, 12:27 PM
#5745
Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper
MM
step 5: ban supermarkets from selling alcohol
step 6: place 30% tax on sugar drinks
step 7: put sinking lid on pokie machines
You could go and live in Brunei or Dubai f that's what you want.
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25-09-2014, 12:44 PM
#5746
Originally Posted by elZorro
Lindsay Mitchell is an artist, and also someone who believes the welfare state is indefensible. If the cost to rent a small three bedroom home in Auckland was similar to that paid in much of USA or Australia, and our supermarket and energy costs were lower, maybe people would be able to get by more easily. But that is not the case. Basic living needs eat up most of any welfare payments, which are designed for a holding pattern at best. Even minimum wages are below a living standard, considering the average costs to get to work in the first place.
So either landlords cut rents, housing becomes more affordable, the costs on fuel and energy are dropped, and supermarkets trim back harder on suppliers, or we start exporting higher value goods in bigger numbers, and pay decent minimum wages. Now go looking for the parties that had real policies to do that. Labour and the Greens.
Got facts? Or research?
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25-09-2014, 12:50 PM
#5747
Cunny is apparently being counseled to stand down. Will be interesting to see if he is still leader by the end of the day. I guess they need to slowly deflate his ego without popping it which could be dangerous and take out some people.
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25-09-2014, 12:58 PM
#5748
Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper
MM
step 5: ban supermarkets from selling alcohol
step 6: place 30% tax on sugar drinks
step 7: put sinking lid on pokie machines
step 8: ask for government action on steps 5,6,and 7
step 9: bang your head against brick wall as you realise National has NO INTENTION of delivering on any of these
step 10: business as usual, spend millions of dollars on really important things like:
a) changing the flag ( $10 million)
b) Americas cup ($36 million
c) subsidising Rio Tinto ($ 35 million)
my steps try to deal with those not well equipped to breed. Your steps impact every person - even the sensible, so I can't see you getting much traction
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25-09-2014, 01:08 PM
#5749
Originally Posted by elZorro
If you want to see real child poverty, come to Laos, Cambodia, or North East Thailand for a year or two.
Most kiwis haven't got a clue what real child poverty is... relatively speaking.
As for the 260,000 figure. Who's doing the counting and what's their criteria? UNICEF and the main opposition parties have everything to gain by trumping up these figures which, as the election has shown, all helps in destroying their credibility.
Does 'child' include babies and teenagers? Not in my books, and if so how are the poverty-baby numbers and the non-parttime-working-school-attending-poverty-teenage numbers being collected?
In all NZ there are 480,000 children aged from 5 to 12 inclusive. So more than 1/2 of all NZ children live in poverty? Get real.
So long as UNICEF and the Labour/Greens carry on skewing the stats to these extremes my donations, advocacy, and vote will remain elsewhere.
Last edited by Vaygor1; 25-09-2014 at 01:10 PM.
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25-09-2014, 01:12 PM
#5750
Originally Posted by minimoke
I invoke Godwin law!
Well played
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