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03-02-2016, 03:24 PM
#301
Mr Cook and Mr Moore showing faith with their little buys at cheap prices
Buy when management / directors are buying I'm told
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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03-02-2016, 04:07 PM
#302
Originally Posted by winner69
Mr Cook and Mr Moore showing faith with their little buys at cheap prices
Buy when management / directors are buying I'm told
Almost meaningless at that tiny volume mate.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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04-02-2016, 07:43 AM
#303
Banned
Agree with Roger. If they spend $100k apiece I would have been impressed but this is not enough of a signal. If anything, it suggests the directors are half-hearted about the company's prospects.
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07-02-2016, 09:37 AM
#304
This weeks "Taking stock" at www.chrislee.co.nz covers VIL.Scroll down the page to find it.
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07-02-2016, 12:50 PM
#305
Originally Posted by percy
This weeks "Taking stock" at www.chrislee.co.nz covers VIL.Scroll down the page to find it.
Backdoor listing, former Dorchester Pacific manager (so disciple of Brent King of Viking Capital and various failed ventures like ICP Bio) - no wonder VIL is a disaster.
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07-02-2016, 06:35 PM
#306
Originally Posted by percy
This weeks "Taking stock" at www.chrislee.co.nz covers VIL.Scroll down the page to find it.
Thanks and to his credit he was predicting many, many months ago that this business structure was an unlikely recipe for success. Perhaps he read a few of the views many have expressed along similar lines on here
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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07-02-2016, 10:29 PM
#307
Originally Posted by Roger
Thanks and to his credit he was predicting many, many months ago that this business structure was an unlikely recipe for success. Perhaps he read a few of the views many have expressed along similar lines on here
Really, what is their core business? Running bars? Not anymore! Running up upmarket small grocery chain that was failing? Hmmmmm. Owning 50% of a burger making facility? At least some synergy to their largest business. Franchising a butchery? Making hard work of this!!
From their website: ~Veritas was repositioned in December 2011 to identify high quality acquisition opportunities, principally within the retail and consumer sectors in New Zealand. Veritas’ key criteria for investment is to identify established businesses with strong, sustainable cash flows and considerable future growth opportunities, whether by way of organic growth or acquisition
If they followed this, the shareholders should all be eating fillet steak! Or maybe they are getting ready to bid on Dick Smith?
The Butcher will be the Mad, Mad, MAD Butcher!! But happy to be out of it.
Last edited by Sideshow Bob; 08-02-2016 at 10:34 AM.
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24-02-2016, 02:34 PM
#308
Originally Posted by winner69
Not an issue because of course it doesn't affect underlying net profit after tax (NPAT) for continued operations for FY16.
Underlying means you ignore all the bad stuff .... and of course these bars are not continuing so you can ignore those as well
All honky dory as markets are forward looking eh .... judge and value the company and its future prospects on underlying business only .... the driver of future profits eh
Wonder what the next 'not continuing' is?
More big write-offs...there's a surprise isn't it, (sarcasm intended). https://nzx.com/companies/VIL/announcements/278208 Maybe I'm losing count, there's so many one-off's and with so many more to come maybe they're pushing the definition of what's a one-off extraordinary item to an all dimension ? PWC will chalking up many, many hundreds of chargeable hours with senior personnel @ over $500 per hour but that's all good because that's a one off too isn't it....or is it ? Ostensibly being operated and reviewed at the behest of the ANZ bank IMO. Shareholders will be hoping PWC can clean up the mess these wonderfully value adding directors have made. http://www.sharechat.co.nz/article/b...aturities.html
Last edited by Beagle; 24-02-2016 at 02:44 PM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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25-02-2016, 11:55 AM
#309
Member
Intangibles 30mil? what is that made up off?
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25-02-2016, 11:59 AM
#310
Originally Posted by benjitara
Intangibles 30mil? what is that made up off?
All the goodwill paid by this bunch of amateurs on businesses bought with gusto and with other people's money (including the bank!).
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