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05-10-2023, 04:43 PM
#131
Originally Posted by justakiwi
ACT is as far right as we have seen in NZ in my life time. It wasn't until I dug deeper that I realised just how far right. So in the NZ context, I think it is acceptable and apt description.
I have no problem with "further to the right of National", or "a right party" (as opposed to "a centre right party"), etc (and even those terms are not quite correct actually), but "Far Right" has definite connotations of something maybe you don't understand (and I don't mean that in a mean way), and Act is not a Far Right party, not even close.
Last edited by Azz; 05-10-2023 at 04:44 PM.
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05-10-2023, 04:52 PM
#132
Originally Posted by Azz
I have no problem with "further to the right of National", or "a right party" (as opposed to "a centre right party"), etc (and even those terms are not quite correct actually), but "Far Right" has definite connotations of something maybe you don't understand (and I don't mean that in a mean way), and Act is not a Far Right party, not even close.
In the NZ context it is Far Right.
It is the most right wing party I can think of ever in the NZ parliament.
So there is no further right than ACT, outside of fringe parties.
It makes me laugh as you NACT supporters continually throw around terms like Marxist, Communist, Socialist etc. but can't take the sane medicine.
We should just start calling them FRACT from now on. Far Right Act.
I would rather use an anagram using the first three letters of the first word and the last of the last word, because they stink!
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05-10-2023, 04:55 PM
#133
Originally Posted by Daytr
In the NZ context it is Far Right.
It is the most right wing party I can think of ever in the NZ parliament.
So there is no further right than ACT, outside of fringe parties.
It makes me laugh as you NACT supporters continually throw around terms like Marxist, Communist, Socialist etc. but can't take the sane medicine.
We should just start calling them FRACT from now on. Far Right Act.
I would rather use an anagram using the first three letters of the first word and the last of the last word, because they stink!
It's like saying, "In the NZ context they're a Nazi party... I don't mean they're Nazis!"
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05-10-2023, 04:56 PM
#134
You don't mean that in a "mean way?" And you wonder why you get negative rep?
Don't presume to know what I do or do not understand. How old are you? I'm probably old enough to be your mother! I know exactly what you mean in your argument re the term "Far right" but as I have already said, in the context of this discussion, in a conversation about New Zealand - ACT is Far Right by NZ standards, and I therefore have no problem with anyone using it.
Originally Posted by Azz
I have no problem with "further to the right of National", or "a right party" (as opposed to "a centre right party"), etc (and even those terms are not quite correct actually), but "Far Right" has definite connotations of something maybe you don't understand (and I don't mean that in a mean way), and Act is not a Far Right party, not even close.
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05-10-2023, 04:58 PM
#135
Originally Posted by justakiwi
You don't mean that in a "mean way?" And you wonder why you get negative rep?
Don't presume to know what I do or do not understand. How old are you? I'm probably old enough to be your mother! I know exactly what you mean in your argument re the term "Far right" but as I have already said, in the context of this discussion, in a conversation about New Zealand - ACT is Far Right by NZ standards, and I therefore have no problem with anyone using it.
See my post about Nazi. I assume you understand what that word means.
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05-10-2023, 04:58 PM
#136
Originally Posted by Azz
It's like saying, "In the NZ context they're a Nazi party... I don't mean they're Nazis!"
Nope that's you comparing ACT to a Nazi party not me.
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05-10-2023, 04:59 PM
#137
Originally Posted by justakiwi
And you wonder why you get negative rep?
From that f'wit BlackPeter, yes I do get negative Reputation. How would you like to be harassed on a constant basis into your inbox endless h*t comments from a total nutjob?
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05-10-2023, 05:00 PM
#138
It is nothing like saying that
Originally Posted by Azz
It's like saying, "In the NZ context they're a Nazi party... I don't mean they're Nazis!"
Originally Posted by Azz
See my post about Nazi. I assume you understand what that word means.
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05-10-2023, 05:00 PM
#139
Originally Posted by Daytr
Nope that's you comparing ACT to a Nazi party not me.
I'm not doing that at all, you idiot.
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05-10-2023, 05:02 PM
#140
Oh FFS! I told you what to do. Go and change your freaking profile settings and turn reputation visibility OFF! Then you will get zero rep votes, and you'll be able to sleep at night.
Honest to God - this place is turning into a freaking Kindergarten.
P.S. I am "harassed by nut jobs" on a daily basis in these threads.
Originally Posted by Azz
From that f'wit BlackPeter, yes I do get negative Reputation. How would you like to be harassed on a constant basis into your inbox endless h*t comments from a total nutjob?
Last edited by justakiwi; 05-10-2023 at 05:03 PM.
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