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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    I guess it's choices. People make choices. Let people make their own choices. Don't pick your "sin product" and tax the crap out of it. Less govt interference.
    Let’s hope the education policies are fully funded so that young people can make informed choices. Provided business and tax policies provide the skilled jobs for them so that they remain in NZ. Then the extra tax from cigarette sales may help fund the required health services for those that chose to become smokers. Provided the tax raised is not diverted to pay for tax cuts for others, so that they can invest even more in residential properties….
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    Seymour pretty much answers the tobacco question here https://youtu.be/HueLAXBxzWc?si=V-09prMQfJ0G46wI

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    I guess it's choices. People make choices. Let people make their own choices. Don't pick your "sin product" and tax the crap out of it. Less govt interference.


    Year 10 school kids & adolescents often don't make 'good choices'.
    The numbers of school age kids taking up smoking has been trending downwards & research shows if young people don't start smoking before the age of 25 yrs, they are unlikely to ever start.

    Repealing the Smokefree 2025 Action Plan will be welcomed by the tobacco companies whose business model relies on getting young new customers addicted to replace the more than 5,000 per year, 13 per day who are dying in NZ from smoking related causes.

    It's beyond belief, an outrage this coalition govt could repeal this legislation in the year 2023/24!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    It sure was spent. In fact, $200m more was added to the mental health budget in 2022.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/budget...L6T4IHECSCTCA/

    All wasted like everything under Ardern & Hipkins & Little.

    Good news that te WTF Ora is going back to Health NZ - emphasis back to frontline services rather than woke tokenism.
    I feel they had a grudge against Mike King and his group, because they were called out by him on their inaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Year 10 school kids & adolescents often don't make 'good choices'.
    The numbers of school age kids taking up smoking has been trending downwards & research shows if young people don't start smoking before the age of 25 yrs, they are unlikely to ever start.

    Repealing the Smokefree 2025 Action Plan will be welcomed by the tobacco companies whose business model relies on getting young new customers addicted to replace the more than 5,000 per year, 13 per day who are dying in NZ from smoking related causes.

    It's beyond belief, an outrage this coalition govt could repeal this legislation in the year 2023/24!
    I'm hoping the reasoning to repeal it is to replace it with something better, much like the RMA repeals. Kids are often taking up smoking far earlier than year 10 and always have done. Labour's complete ignoring of the vaping issue had left a truck sized loophole.

    Let's hope common sense prevails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Year 10 school kids & adolescents often don't make 'good choices'.
    The numbers of school age kids taking up smoking has been trending downwards & research shows if young people don't start smoking before the age of 25 yrs, they are unlikely to ever start.

    Repealing the Smokefree 2025 Action Plan will be welcomed by the tobacco companies whose business model relies on getting young new customers addicted to replace the more than 5,000 per year, 13 per day who are dying in NZ from smoking related causes.

    It's beyond belief, an outrage this coalition govt could repeal this legislation in the year 2023/24!
    Absolutely an outrage Labour has done bugger all to stop kids from vaping.

    Australia acted decisively while Labour under Ardern & Hipkins happily close both eyes to the problem.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...nce-hears.html

    Te WTF Ora, anyone?
    Last edited by Balance; 25-11-2023 at 03:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    We will see how long the likes of St Johns and Plunket keep up their woke pretenses of using Maori when the new government starts to cut back their funding even while more and more donors stop giving money to them.

    They are there to help and service those who need their help - instead they spend more effort incorporating woke policies into their operations to appease Labour under Ardern & Hipkins than doing their jobs.
    Is the new Government cutting funding to essential services such as St John's & Plunket?
    Whoever puts this forward needs to be sacked before entering parliament.
    Or is this just your dumb idea Balance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    They want the tax revenue to fund their tax cuts.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSDxETyLiBk
    Spot on.
    They need to cover the fiscal hole left by the foreign buyer tax. Disgraceful move by the new Government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Spot on.
    They need to cover the fiscal hole left by the foreign buyer tax. Disgraceful move by the new Government.


    Lets not forget the enormous gaping great chasm that Comrade Robbo dug and then left behind for future Govts
    & generations to wear & deal with filling in, for Labour's incompetent 6 years of feel good antics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    They want the tax revenue to fund their tax cuts.


    Why not Tax Meth & other users hard ? .. oh wait a moment

    but they can afford it ...

    The last Govt must have really been sound asleep and/or well medicated most of the time
    Last edited by nztx; 25-11-2023 at 04:32 PM.

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