Nat/act/nzf 2023

[Daytr]

A shocker!

Hope they deliver much better than their verbal delivery!

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...ess-conference

Yeah Keystone cops for sure.
What should have been a positive announcement becomes a joke and also raises questions around both the PM & Minister's knowledge they are basing their decision making on.

This summary is quite comical.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350...ess-conference

[Balance]

Yeah Keystone cops for sure.
What should have been a positive announcement becomes a joke and also raises questions around both the PM & Minister's knowledge they are basing their decision making on.

This summary is quite comical.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350...ess-conference

Wise sayings from history and from those with experience :

"A man is judged by his deeds, not his words.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden of weeds.

A man should be ashamed when his deeds not match his words."

After 6 years of the Labour government of words (spin & BS basically), NZ better wise up and learn to judge any government based upon what is achieved rather than what is spoken.

Words are of course important because words can inspire and lift a whole country to better and greater things. Ultimately though, words are but words without deeds.

[Daytr]

Wise sayings from history and from those with experience :

"A man is judged by his deeds, not his words.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden of weeds.

A man should be ashamed when his deeds not match his words."

After 6 years of the Labour government of words (spin & BS basically), NZ better wise up and learn to judge any government based upon what is achieved rather than what is spoken.

Words are of course important because words can inspire and lift a whole country to better and greater things. Ultimately though, words are but words without deeds.

If you are hosting a press conference, words are pretty much everything.

And if you don't know the detail of what your decisions are based on, then the outcome is a lottery.

[Balance]

If you are hosting a press conference, words are pretty much everything.

And if you don't know the detail of what your decisions are based on, then the outcome is a lottery.

No question that Mark Mitchell fxxked up and made Luxon looked stupid.

Second strike btw for Mark.

More’s the pity for the government as the announcement (per article below) was a very positive one :

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...AVNWXCLWX3XNQ/

“Once the clarifying statement arrived after the press conference, it was clear they had under-sold the announcement. It turned out that the Government is promising $1.9 billion more for Corrections over four years than the current spending track. That will fund more prison beds, more prison staff and more rehabilitation programmes for remand prisoners who make up 45 per cent of the prison muster.

For the record, the clarification sent out afterwards by Mark Mitchell’s office stated there are currently 455 beds at Waikeria Prison; that 600 new ones under way already will come on line in a year, including 100 mental health beds; and that yesterday’s funding announcement will mean an additional 810 beds which, once completed, will take Waikeria’s capacity to a whopping 1865 beds.“

[Daytr]

No question that Mark Mitchell fxxked up and made Luxon looked stupid.

Second strike btw for Mark.

More’s the pity for the government as the announcement (per article below) was a very positive one :

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...AVNWXCLWX3XNQ/

“Once the clarifying statement arrived after the press conference, it was clear they had under-sold the announcement. It turned out that the Government is promising $1.9 billion more for Corrections over four years than the current spending track. That will fund more prison beds, more prison staff and more rehabilitation programmes for remand prisoners who make up 45 per cent of the prison muster.

For the record, the clarification sent out afterwards by Mark Mitchell’s office stated there are currently 455 beds at Waikeria Prison; that 600 new ones under way already will come on line in a year, including 100 mental health beds; and that yesterday’s funding announcement will mean an additional 810 beds which, once completed, will take Waikeria’s capacity to a whopping 1865 beds.“

Good clarification.
But one way it could be looked at is they expect serious crime to increase.

[Balance]

Good clarification.
But one way it could be looked at is they expect serious crime to increase.

They have made clear they want criminals, especially those guilty of violent crimes, to be locked up rather than be given home detention.

The sort of crime which should see this low life scumbag criminal jailed for at least 3 years - unprovoked assault by a 43 year old (wearing pink pants) on an 80+ old elderly woman:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...rovoked-attack

[Balance]

Clearly more jails needed …

An example of what happens with Labour’s soft approach to criminals - this criminal has committed murder by firing multiple shots on Ponsonby Rd.

He should have been locked up for a spell to reflect on what punishment is truly about - he wasn’t and now, a life is lost.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3502...shooting-named

Sentenced to community detention after being convicted for assault to injure, for breaching bail and then, for breaching community detention condition.

[mistaTea]

No question that Mark Mitchell fxxked up and made Luxon looked stupid.

Second strike btw for Mark.

More’s the pity for the government as the announcement (per article below) was a very positive one :

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...AVNWXCLWX3XNQ/

“Once the clarifying statement arrived after the press conference, it was clear they had under-sold the announcement. It turned out that the Government is promising $1.9 billion more for Corrections over four years than the current spending track. That will fund more prison beds, more prison staff and more rehabilitation programmes for remand prisoners who make up 45 per cent of the prison muster.

For the record, the clarification sent out afterwards by Mark Mitchell’s office stated there are currently 455 beds at Waikeria Prison; that 600 new ones under way already will come on line in a year, including 100 mental health beds; and that yesterday’s funding announcement will mean an additional 810 beds which, once completed, will take Waikeria’s capacity to a whopping 1865 beds.“

Yeah Mark needs to pull his socks up big time. Totally muffed a really positive announcement.

I don't think Luxon will accept being made to look foolish again.

It would be lovely if we did not need to expand out prison capacity so much... if the soft on crime "let's all be more understanding" approach actually worked. But we live in the real world, and there are more bad buggers out there than ever before - and a lot of them need to be locked up, with reahbilitation opportunities to try and turn their lives around.

The next thing I want removed is the discounts on sentencing that come on the back of cultural reports. First step is to stop funding the reports with taxpayer dollars, but I actually want it scrapped altogether.

Most criminals who do these serious crimes assault/GBH/murder/robbery etc... have had tough lives growing up. And no doubt that contributes to where they end up as an adult... however if you do the crime, you must do the (full) time.

It is very difficult for families of the victims to see someone get a further 10% or so discount on their sentence because the criminal was Maori and had a sh1t step dad. All that background information is valuable in terms of helping society try to identify these situations early and intervene where possible... but where a serious crime is committed, all bets are off and the full punishment must be set.

[causecelebre]

Not quite sure where to add this but not only have the Wellington public servants been troughing on the tax payers dime for the last 6 years but now it turns out they need sheltered workshops sponsored by that great woke establishment: Victoria University. Yes, that same institution that cancelled (literally and culturally) a panel on free speech because one on the intended panelists supported free speech (yes, really, you can't make that sh!t up). Remember, NZ tax payers make up 42% of university funding. Good to see my hard earned going to support bleeding hearts

https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/3...ria-university

[Bjauck]

Not quite sure where to add this but not only have the Wellington public servants been troughing on the tax payers dime for the last 6 years but now it turns out they need sheltered workshops sponsored by that great woke establishment: Victoria University. Yes, that same institution that cancelled (literally and culturally) a panel on free speech because one on the intended panelists supported free speech (yes, really, you can't make that sh!t up). Remember, NZ tax payers make up 42% of university funding. Good to see my hard earned going to support bleeding hearts

https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/3...ria-university

If Victoria is a woke establishment - and presumably you think that is a bad thing? Do you think safeguards should be brought to in stop Universities becoming woke and what would those safeguards be?

It looks like the VU free speech debate is back on anyway: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...rsity-on-panel