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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    The first question is: is $50,000 income enough to start having a family?
    Maybe. But what's the alternative? Should society presume that we set a minimum income for having a family?

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    I went to an open home(apartment) in an Albany last weekend out of interest. It was in the industrial area. Two bedrooms, one bathroom, lounge-dining room with the kitchen included and a study type area. All on one floor but below was a large garage with laundry and extra toilet. Nothing upmarket in design nor colour schemes. In fact it was horrid. Asking price $945,000 + GST. Nearly 1.1 million for crap. So what is $250,000 going to buy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rep View Post
    Maybe. But what's the alternative? Should society presume that we set a minimum income for having a family?
    Society shouldn't but people should be able to work out consequences of actions themselves.
    And don't come running to 'society' if your choice doesn't work out well. Take some responsibility for your actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Another one said the heater was broken so they used the oven. Go figure
    Ovens turn energy into heat the same as a heater.
    1kw is the same in a normal incandesant heater as in an oven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Ovens turn energy into heat the same as a heater.
    1kw is the same in a normal incandesant heater as in an oven.
    And everyone goes and sits around in the kitchen. Maybe this is quite normal but I have never seen this method of heating used and wouldn't consider it myself.

    Like your post about density of housing Rep. I have recently returned from a northern European country where there is a lot of building going on but most residential accommodation is being built in apartment blocks, with high quality and nice apartments. Nothing flash but good and fairly private. Young families simply don't entertain the thought of anything else for their first homes Visited a friend in his mid fifties that has recently sold his house and bought a nice apartment, after kids have all moved on. Reason he gave was a lot less maintenance work on gardens and buildings , much cheaper to run and quite a bit of money left over from changing from a house to an apartment. NZ needs an attitude change in this regards and it will come. The sooner the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 777 View Post
    So what is $250,000 going to buy?
    Nothing - the dirt under costs more than that - way more.

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    I agree and its happening , maybe not fast enough. Record 1216 apartments built

    Record Auckland CBD apartments rising - NZ Herald

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    I agree and its happening , maybe not fast enough. Record 1216 apartments built

    Record Auckland CBD apartments rising - NZ Herald
    A good sign JT but it needs to happen much faster and right around the country's towns and cities. Here in Nelson most of the very few apartments built are expensive waterfront apartments. Not at all aimed at first home buyers that are really struggling to get a first home to buy or rent. Yes its not just an Auckland problem despite what one may hear from media and politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
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    So maybe we don't know the full story in this particular case but very likely the occupants are a good part of the cause of damp and mould in a new house. And if because of that their children get sick ....
    .. than obviously it must be the fault of the government. Why don't they pass by every morning to properly air the house and throw money into the heaters. Minimum we should expect from nanny state - shouldn't we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    A good sign JT but it needs to happen much faster and right around the country's towns and cities. Here in Nelson most of the very few apartments built are expensive waterfront apartments. Not at all aimed at first home buyers that are really struggling to get a first home to buy or rent. Yes its not just an Auckland problem despite what one may hear from media and politicians.
    Does it matter that new builds are expensive? Surely each new dwelling frees up an older cheaper one for first home and lower income buyers. It's asking a lot to provide brand new homes for low equity people, unless we want a whole lot of shoddy dogboxes. We do not need to start at the top.

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