Israel - Gaza - Palestine CONFLICT

[nztx]

The Palestinians could fight them with an army if they were allowed one, but Israel prevents that. Israel prevents virtually every freedom for all Palestinians, that most people have.

How can Hamas fight an invading force that is equipped by the US? Guerrilla warfare is their only option & Israel have occupied the Palestinian territory for decades, not just since October.

They are not casualties of war, they are targeted attacks by Isareal where there are known mass civilian populations and Israel keeps doing it, over & over again.

What can Israel do to stop Hamas. Abide the treaty set out 20 years ago & the two state proposal and leave the Palestinian territory.
Allow Palestinians to have a political voice as Yasir Arafat fought for and won for them briefly through the accord that Carter negotiated.

Probably couldn't be trusted with anything that looked like an Army to not repeat 7 October though could they ?
And as seen Iran would probably jump at chance to join in given half a chance to support
& equip regional terrorism to a greater degree, as seen via intermediaries in Yemen, Syria, Iraq & Lebanon.
Arafat probably had quite a few more clues than anything resident in any seat of control in Palestine
or the Hama's scumbags hiding out down underground behind their human shields
Arafat probably realised what was likely coming if things continued the way things were going.
Something current leadership or lack of it in the enclaves appear incapable of recognising..

All the funding that Hamas has used probably could have worked wonders for the plight & situation
of the Palestinean people - but alas syphoned off instead to fund the terrorist militants and expose
their own people to the conseqences of Hama's acts of terrorism..

Instead Palestineans in the area this have in the past and now largely survive off UN Food Lifelines
while Hamas continues to syphon off precious resources to continue playing their games

[Daytr]

Probably couldn't be trusted with anything that looked like an Army to not repeat 7 October though could they ?
And as seen Iran would probably jump at chance to join in given half a chance to support
& equip regional terrorism to a greater degree, as seen via intermediaries in Yemen, Syria, Iraq & Lebanon.
Arafat probably had quite a few more clues than anything resident in any seat of control in Palestine
or the Hama's scumbags hiding out down underground behind their human shields
Arafat probably realised what was likely coming if things continued the way things were going.
Something current leadership or lack of it in the enclaves appear incapable of recognising..

All the funding that Hamas has used probably could have worked wonders for the plight & situation
of the Palestinean people - but alas syphoned off instead to fund the terrorist militants and expose
their own people to the conseqences of Hama's acts of terrorism..

Instead Palestineans in the area this have in the past and now largely survive off UN Food Lifelines
while Hamas continues to syphon off precious resources to continue playing their games

So you are blaming Hamas for not paying to offset the death and destruction that Israel has inflicted.
How about Israel just stop, then there's no need for aid.
Honestly your post is completely illogical.
The victims should pay. 🙄

[Balance]

The international community has sent billions of dollars in aid to the Gaza Strip to provide relief to the more than 2 million Palestinians living there.

From 2014 to 2020, U.N. agencies spent nearly $4.5 billion in Gaza, including $600 million in 2020 alone.

According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, aid to Palestinians totaled over $40 billion between 1994 and 2020.

[nztx]

So you are blaming Hamas for not paying to offset the death and destruction that Israel has inflicted.
How about Israel just stop, then there's no need for aid.
Honestly your post is completely illogical.
The victims should pay. ��

You dont read very well Gaza has been on UN Life Food Support since long before Oct 7 2023
Why do you think there are (or were) so many UN facilities there already ?
As for Hamas - the little punks started off this round were elected some time back into Govt
so have much responsibility for the consequences of their actions.

While I don't condone the extent of casualties, Hamas factions certainly deserve to have their backsides
blown off and handed back to them for their actions in another territory.

They could have gone a long way with what they have syphoned off to improve the lot of the Palestinean
people - for example water supplies / treatment plants etc etc etc

Arafat was more in tune with reality .. the current leadership are no more than terrorist thugs who
deserve all that comes to them, including their defacto allies and suppliers .

For decades provocations have been thrown out yielding consequences and screams
but nothing learned. Israel learned early on about what it would likely be dealing with
No surprises there.

Hamas deliberately play with fire ? .. what did they expect back ?

Egypt learned their lessons, Lebanon similar, Syria too
Iran would love to be the big bully boy in the region, but not game to
Israel learned it had to be hard, strong to meet likely aggression in a hate filled local sea.
That leaves Hamas which appear to be very slow learners, causing their own & others harm in the process

If the Palestineans were smart, the regional issue may well have been capable of resolution a long time ago

[Daytr]

The international community has sent billions of dollars in aid to the Gaza Strip to provide relief to the more than 2 million Palestinians living there.

From 2014 to 2020, U.N. agencies spent nearly $4.5 billion in Gaza, including $600 million in 2020 alone.

According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, aid to Palestinians totaled over $40 billion between 1994 and 2020.

You dont read very well Gaza has been on UN Life Food Support since long before Oct 7 2023
Why do you think there are (or were) so many UN facilities there already ?
As for Hamas - the little punks started off this round were elected some time back into Govt
so have much responsibility for the consequences of their actions.

While I don't condone the extent of casualties, Hamas factions certainly deserve to have their backsides
blown off and handed back to them for their actions in another territory.

They could have gone a long way with what they have syphoned off to improve the lot of the Palestinean
people - for example water supplies / treatment plants etc etc etc

Arafat was more in tune with reality .. the current leadership are no more than terrorist thugs who
deserve all that comes to them, including their defacto allies and suppliers .

For decades provocations have been thrown out yielding consequences and screams
but nothing learned. Israel learned early on about what it would likely be dealing with
No surprises there.

Hamas deliberately play with fire ? .. what did they expect back ?

Egypt learned their lessons, Lebanon similar, Syria too
Iran would love to be the big bully boy in the region, but not game to
Israel learned it had to be hard, strong to meet likely aggression in a hate filled local sea.
That leaves Hamas which appear to be very slow learners, causing their own & others harm in the process

If the Palestineans were smart, the regional issue may well have been capable of resolution a long time ago

Its you both who require the reading lessons. Why is all that aid being sent to the Palestinians? Because they have been persecuted by Israel for decades.

So it's OK to just invade someone else's land and evict people from their homes enmasse?
Arafat trusted Israel to honour the agreement re the Palestinian territory, so more fool him. And yes he should have learned that the Israelis couldn't be trusted. Netanyahu has always been an aggressor and is using any excuse he can to commit atrocities.

Israel learned alright, they are turning into the very regime that committed genocide on the Jews. Gaza isn't that dissimilar to the Warsaw ghetto.

Anyway, this is just going around in circles. You both think Israel can do anything they like without repercussions including mass slaughter of children.

I think both sides have committed atrocities, and both should be held accountable.

So I wonder who has the more balanced view...🙄

[Daytr]

This is huge! The highest ranking Jewish political leader in the US wants Netanyahu gone. " Netanyahu is an obstacle to peace".
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-israel-speech

[Joshuatree]

Yes,👍 Let's hope this snowballs and gets rid of the evil Netanyahu known as one of the greatest examples of how power corrupts .

[Joshuatree]

Its you both who require the reading lessons. Why is all that aid being sent to the Palestinians? Because they have been persecuted by Israel for decades.

So it's OK to just invade someone else's land and evict people from their homes enmasse?
Arafat trusted Israel to honour the agreement re the Palestinian territory, so more fool him. And yes he should have learned that the Israelis couldn't be trusted. Netanyahu has always been an aggressor and is using any excuse he can to commit atrocities.

Israel learned alright, they are turning into the very regime that committed genocide on the Jews. Gaza isn't that dissimilar to the Warsaw ghetto.

Anyway, this is just going around in circles. You both think Israel can do anything they like without repercussions including mass slaughter of children.

I think both sides have committed atrocities, and both should be held accountable.

So I wonder who has the more balanced view...🙄

I went to the film Zone Of Interest about a Nazi family living an idyllic life on the other side of a wall that held a concentration/extermination camp.Replace the Nazis with Israelies and you have something eerily similar.

[Balance]

Blame Hamas for what's happening in Gaza? Absolutely!

Marking the first time in which a formal Palestinian voice has blamed Hamas for the disastrous outcomes of the October 7 massacre, Fatah said that “those who were responsible for the return of the occupation to Gaza Strip and caused the Nakba [catastrophe] which our Palestinian people live… have no right to dictate national priorities.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtMyLIiJV2I

[Daytr]

Blame Hamas for what's happening in Gaza? Absolutely!

Marking the first time in which a formal Palestinian voice has blamed Hamas for the disastrous outcomes of the October 7 massacre, Fatah said that “those who were responsible for the return of the occupation to Gaza Strip and caused the Nakba [catastrophe] which our Palestinian people live… have no right to dictate national priorities.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtMyLIiJV2I

Israel is losing its global support rapidly.
First Schumer the highest ranking Jewish politician in the US & now Europe.

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2...-josep-borrell

The warlord Netanyahu has to go.