2015 Stock Picking Contest

[klid]

Hi everyone. I will be organising the 2015 Stock Picking Contest previously done by Paper Tiger. I want to make it pretty much work the same as it has been because it has been great (Thanks PT and thanks for the handover to me). I will be managing the entries, and the score calculations through a website I have made: https://www.stocktastic.co.nz/.

How do you enter? Two ways:

Option 1 - Post your selections here just like the last years' competition. Your picks must be on this list however:
https://www.stocktastic.co.nz/stocks
I will then manually enter you in the website. If you need to subsequently modify your picks it would be best to PM me.

Option 2 (preferred) - Self service using the website: https://www.stocktastic.co.nz/entry-form - you do need to register an account which requires a valid email address to be put in. Once you register you'll be sent an email that gives you a link that will log you in. From that point you can (but do not have to - set a password). You'd do this if you want to login again in the future. You can remove your email at that point should you wish also. The website should be straight forward on how to enter and the rules are displayed there too. You can modify your entries too.

My preferred way of people entering the competition would be self service with option 2, but to also (if you want) post here with your selections and just indicate that you took the self service route.

Here are the rules, also on: https://www.stocktastic.co.nz/ (https://www.stocktastic.co.nz/rules)



Entries are made by using the entry form on the site, or by posting here.
Entries can be modified only by using the same entry form, up Monday 5th January 2015 at 09:00:00 (or by contacting me here).
Only one account is permitted, and you may not use the alias that belongs to someone else onr sharetrader.co.nz.
Five selections must be made, the same stock cannot be selected twice. The entry form will enforce this.
There is a predefined list of stocks to select from, which will be those that are listed on the NZSX or NZAX and with a market capitalisation of at least $10 million as at 1st December 2014.
MELCA is a part paid share and not included.
Everyone has the same entry price, that will be the closing price of the stock on the last day of trading in the 2014 calendar year.
Competition closes with last traded prices on the last trading day in the 2015 calendar year.
Dividends and rights issues will be incorporated.
Any other random distributions will be incorporated, at the discretion of the contest administrator.
If a selection delists; it will be removed from your selections.


Please let me know anything you think is pertinent, or any queries. There is a contact form on the site should you want to contact me that way.

[Jay]

Thanks for this Kild.
I presume if we have already entered on your site they will remain, that do not have to enter again.

Good work

[Beagle]

Thanks for organising this Klid.

I was just wondering if as and when it becomes known what the various brokerage firms are picking for 2015 if that info could be posted here.

[Jantar]

I'm in :D

I see that all stocks are currently at $2.00. I would love to sell my NWF holding for that price right now.

[junh]

Done. Thanks.

[klid]

So I've picked (very quickly in like 5 minutes):

HNZ - Solid.
IQE - Don't know about it but GEM.ASX has done well so maybe..,
OGC - Gold!
RAK - You never know.
ERD - Loos like it could be a goer.

Roger keen to include the firms when known. I can add them in and colour them accordingly to indicate.

[BFG]

thanks for running it klid.
Try not to copy my picks this time Moosie/BFG

Haha oh you're a funny one Snapiti. Looks we've gone completely seperate ways this year. Not one pick like each other!

I'd rather do swaps on ruble derivatives than touch RAK. Yuck!

[Schrodinger]

Thanks for running this Klid and a big shout out to PT for doing an awesome job on last years comp.

I will try and improve on my 3rd to last ranking with another selection of NZs best stocks:

XRO NZR SKO VML NZX

Software, oil and a monopoly hey the only way forward from here is up....

Klid a quick question: is there anyway to get a quick list of most popular picks by %. Would be interesting to know this.

[couta1]

I'm picking Xro/Dil/Peb/SLI/ATM .Hold them all and all of them running substantial paper losses so let's see if any of them can shake their tail feathers this year.

[MPC]

HNZ, SKO, SML, SUM, MVN
Cheers,
MPC

[Bobcat.]

VML
OGC
NWF
BRL
BLT

Rise and shine, you sloths.

[hoyinma]

Here are my picks:

hnz
pgw
dil
fph
atm

Thanks for running this!

[Jantar]

My picks are:
HNZ ... Look good and solid. Secured loans and investments so little down side risk.
IFT ... Good performing investments with potential for continued improvements
NWF ... Never made a profit, but positive annual cash flow and debt free.
GNE ... Its a mild El-Nino, so North Island Thermal and South Island Hydro suits perfectly.
CEN ... Its a mild El-Nino, so North Island Thermal and South Island Hydro suits perfectly.

[Minerbarejet]

Have logged in and setup online. Went in at about #26 and am now #3 -and it hasnt even started.:)
I like this competition.:)

Picks are

PEB maybe they could use one of their tests on the share price and find out whats wrong
PPL just kid ding
WDT maybe something will drive the shareprice up
BRL low coal talent
XRO zero to hero again

Common factor: Biggest losers on last years stockpick contest as best as I can establish.:)

[EAGLE]

SUM
SEA
ATM
OHE
BRL

Thanks

[troyvdh]

Giday...Ive thought about this for a while.Given the popularity of this thread ...me thinks that there is probably a bit or work (frustration??) in running this comp....Why not offer the participants the opportunity of folk to display there gratitude and thanks by perhaps offering a donation of say anything up to $20-$40 to the kind person organising this keenly followed thread.

Just thinking is all

[gypsy]

My picks
PEB
HNZ
SUM
AIA
SML

Thanks for the opportunity, wishing everyone a safe and Merry Christmas.

[bunter]

Have already posted on Stocktastic:

PGW, SCL, GNE, DPC, HBY.


My top 13 stocks for now given below - have overridden the 'system'...notably for DPC.

I think DPC will join the 'froth' sector (tech and villages) in 2015, driven by acquisitions and the ability of its board to hype them.





Stocks
TSR Rank
ValRank
OvrlRank
%UV/OV
fTSR
Sntmnt
Growth%


pgw.nz
1
1
1
186.5%
21.1%
12.9%
9.0%


scl.nz
3
2
2
104.7%
16.7%
-2.7%
8.5%


CNU.NZ
6
9
3
43.5%
16.2%
18.9%
5.0%


RBD.NZ
5
11
4.5
35.8%
16.3%
12.5%
12.5%


vil.nz
10
6
4.5
53.5%
15.3%
4.8%
10.0%


thl.nz
11
7
6
50.9%
15.2%
24.2%
10.0%


hby.nz
14
5
7
54.4%
14.7%
6.8%
9.0%


awf.nz
13
8
8.5
47.3%
15.0%
-0.5%
10.0%


bgr.nz
4
17
8.5
28.0%
16.4%
9.1%
13.0%


IFT.NZ
2
22
10
13.5%
16.8%
18.6%
14.0%


HNZ.NZ
12
13
11
33.1%
15.2%
13.9%
11.0%


hlg.nz
23
3
12.5
65.4%
13.0%
5.4%
5.0%


GNE.NZ
22
4
12.5
55.6%
13.0%
8.8%
6.0%












TSR - Est annual long term total shareholder return from divs and capital growth


Val - Fair value, calculated on current dividend and estimated long term dividend growth


Overall rank - Average of TSR and Fair Value rankings





%OV/UV - estimated percent under or over valued





fTSR - forecast annual percent toal return






Sentiment - % that the 50 day moving average is over or under the 200 day moving average


Growth % - my guess of long term dividend growth

[klid]

Giday...Ive thought about this for a while.Given the popularity of this thread ...me thinks that there is probably a bit or work (frustration??) in running this comp....Why not offer the participants the opportunity of folk to display there gratitude and thanks by perhaps offering a donation of say anything up to $20-$40 to the kind person organising this keenly followed thread.

Just thinking is all
Thank you. It won't be bad. I will do one big sweep of this thread and enter any picks that aren't already registered on the site with the same alias, it won't take long. PT said that was the most time consuming thing (entering/modifying everyone's selections), it was a task made harder due to the fact that everyone had their entry price on the date they chose the selections. So I've tried to streamline that with the online all in one place stuff and self service option.

I don't want any sort of pecuniary gain. The costs of putting it up and maintaining it are rather minimal, In fact I am keen to put up some sort of small prize, just something small.

p.s. removed the 50 pager size on the rankings, well, set it to 1000, will make for an easy copy and paste here on the Fridays.

[pedro.nz]

Thank you PT for all your efforts in running this competition in the past - much appreciated by all I am sure and well done Klid for carrying on with this popular thread this year.
Following entered on website...

AIA
BLT
MFT
HNZ
XRO

[shasta]

Thanks Klid for carrying on from PT's great effort over the last 3 years.

With only a quick fire look into these:

IFT - Well run company, quality assets, wish they could buy out WCC holding in the airport!
AIR - 2015 Cricket World Cup, U20 Football world cup, direct flights to Argentina & more services to China, cheap fuel...
RBC - Look for SSH activity, there's value in TEN, $USD strengthening helps
SCL - Looks interesting & was tipped off on it!
WHS - Well run, I like the new CEO, bringing in "living wage" rates over 3 years, is there anything they wont sell?

Cheers

[noodles]

Thanks Klid.

Here are my picks (as per the website)
VIL - My highest Conviction. 43% Growth, 10%+ dividend, and pe in single digits. see Here (http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?9111-VIL-Veritas-Investments-Limited&p=523216&viewfull=1#post523216)
CVT - 50% eps growth from Fy14-Fy16. see here (http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?1449-Comvita-CVT&p=521109&viewfull=1#post521109)
PGW - Pure dividend play - 13% dividend. Expect some capital gains as well
IQE - expect 30% eps growth over FY15
SCL - Amazing performance given headwinds. Yet still pays 10% dividend while we wait for FY16 growth

There is so much value on the NZX at the moment. It pains me to leave out HNZ, DPC, THL, EVO, and AWF

[bunter]

Thanks Klid.

Here are my picks (as per the website)
VIL - My highest Conviction. 43% Growth, 10%+ dividend, and pe in single digits. see Here (http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?9111-VIL-Veritas-Investments-Limited&p=523216&viewfull=1#post523216)
CVT - 50% eps growth from Fy14-Fy16. see here (http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?1449-Comvita-CVT&p=521109&viewfull=1#post521109)
PGW - Pure dividend play - 13% dividend. Expect some capital gains as well
IQE - expect 30% eps growth over FY15
SCL - Amazing performance given headwinds. Yet still pays 10% dividend while we wait for FY16 growth

There is so much value on the NZX at the moment. It pains me to leave out HNZ, DPC, THL, EVO, and AWF

Agree strongly with most of that - but isn't PGW on a current gross yield of 17.4%? With profit increases forecast?

[noodles]

Agree strongly with most of that - but isn't PGW on a current gross yield of 17.4%? With profit increases forecast?
I think on a historical basis, PGW would be on 17%. But that included a 1c special dividend. I've simply taken average analyst forecasts for FY15. 13% is still quite alluring:)

[noodles]

Have already posted on Stocktastic:

PGW, SCL, GNE, DPC, HBY.


My top 13 stocks for now given below - have overridden the 'system'...notably for DPC.

I think DPC will join the 'froth' sector (tech and villages) in 2015, driven by acquisitions and the ability of its board to hype them.





Stocks
TSR Rank
ValRank
OvrlRank
%UV/OV
fTSR
Sntmnt
Growth%


pgw.nz
1
1
1
186.5%
21.1%
12.9%
9.0%


scl.nz
3
2
2
104.7%
16.7%
-2.7%
8.5%


CNU.NZ
6
9
3
43.5%
16.2%
18.9%
5.0%


RBD.NZ
5
11
4.5
35.8%
16.3%
12.5%
12.5%


vil.nz
10
6
4.5
53.5%
15.3%
4.8%
10.0%


thl.nz
11
7
6
50.9%
15.2%
24.2%
10.0%


hby.nz
14
5
7
54.4%
14.7%
6.8%
9.0%


awf.nz
13
8
8.5
47.3%
15.0%
-0.5%
10.0%


bgr.nz
4
17
8.5
28.0%
16.4%
9.1%
13.0%


IFT.NZ
2
22
10
13.5%
16.8%
18.6%
14.0%


HNZ.NZ
12
13
11
33.1%
15.2%
13.9%
11.0%


hlg.nz
23
3
12.5
65.4%
13.0%
5.4%
5.0%


GNE.NZ
22
4
12.5
55.6%
13.0%
8.8%
6.0%












TSR - Est annual long term total shareholder return from divs and capital growth


Val - Fair value, calculated on current dividend and estimated long term dividend growth


Overall rank - Average of TSR and Fair Value rankings





%OV/UV - estimated percent under or over valued





fTSR - forecast annual percent toal return






Sentiment - % that the 50 day moving average is over or under the 200 day moving average


Growth % - my guess of long term dividend growth






We have very similar tastes. Good luck

[silu]

Atm
ift
met
sko
cgf

[klid]

snapiti
Schrodinger
couta1
MPC
Bobcat.
EAGLE
gypsy
shasta
silu

I created you accounts on Stocktastic with non-existant @stocktastic.co.nz email addresses and entered your picks.

If you want to modify them prior to the 5th of Jan... PM me and I can change them or give you a password to login.

[LegendOfRiot]

Dil
xro
peb
wyn
atm

[NZSilver]

Hnz, atm, sum, skc, peb

[clips]

the darts have landed on -

Ebo, Aia, Nzo, Hnz, Fph

cheers

[jimmi]

DIL
AIR
PEB
XRO
FBU
Thanks

[axe]

Hi everyone.

Axe's picks:

SCL
RYM
ZEL
KMD
ATM

[JBmurc]

Ogc
peb
ntl
nzo
hzn

[noodles]

I note a couple of high profile professional investors have joined the comp. Namely PHuljich and ABhatnagar. Along with the brokers, this makes the competition a bit like a pro/am tournament. Very exciting!

[777]

kild did request that the preferred entry method was option 2 in his first post. It would certainly reduce his work load if entrants were to use that method.

[klid]

kild did request that the preferred entry method was option 2 in his first post. It would certainly reduce his work load if entrants were to use that method.
Hehe TY. Have entered all to date.

[noodles]

85 entries, here's the top ten in order:




# of Picks
% of Picks
Rank of Picks


HNZ
32
38%
1


ATM
26
31%
2


PEB
24
28%
3


DIL
22
26%
4=


XRO
22
26%
4=


SUM
17
20%
5


AIR
13
15%
6


IFT
11
13%
7=


PGW
11
13%
7=


CRP
9
11%
8=


MFT
9
11%
8=


SCL
9
11%
8=


VML
9
11%
8=


AIA
8
9%
9=


BRL
8
9%
9=


DPC
8
9%
9=


FPH
7
8%
10=


OGC
7
8%
10=


RYM
7
8%
10=


WYN
7
8%
10=



An exercise for someone with more time on their hands than me would be to see if their was any correlation between the performance and the popularity of the stock. I am guessing the correlation would be negative.

[BlackPeter]

An exercise for someone with more time on their hands than me would be to see if their was any correlation between the performance and the popularity of the stock. I am guessing the correlation would be negative.

If you take history as a guide (the 2014 stock picking competition), than you are correct. The ST Top 5 in 2014 did quite poor compared to whatever you want them to compare to (like market, analysts picks, ...). Overall return of 1.56% - not flash. However - past performance is no indicator for future failure (well, not always). So I guess - time will tell, whether the ST top 5 (or top 10) do better this time around.

If we look at the list so far - yes, most of them are popular (measured in threat length). Some of them are IMHO fully priced (i.e. I wouldn't expect them to rise, but who knows ...) or already too dear, some are purely speculative (no way to predict their performance in advance) ... and some of them I would pick myself (might not be my top 5, but am holding some of them, i.e. expect them to perform).

Discl: holding (from above list): PEB, SUM, IFT, PGW, BRL, OGC;

[percy]

I note a couple of high profile professional investors have joined the comp. Namely PHuljich and ABhatnagar. Along with the brokers, this makes the competition a bit like a pro/am tournament. Very exciting!

I note both have picked DIL,PAY and RYM.
Rounding up to their five picks, P Huljich has MFT and POT,while A Bhatnagar has gone with HNZ and SUM.

[warthog]

HBY
NPX
TME
WYN
OHE

Thx.

[kanaka]

What the heck: BLT; CNU; CRP; SML & XRO
Great work Klid

[silverblizzard888]

Hi kild are NTL (New Tailsman) and ALF (Allied Farmers) not available stocks to be picked? I don't see it as an option on the form.

[BlackPeter]

Hi kild are NTL (New Tailsman) and ALF (Allied Farmers) not available stocks to be picked? I don't see it as an option on the form.

As far as I remember - companies need to have a market cap of at least $10M to take part in the competition. Both NTL and ALF are below that number (both in the $7M ...) .

[bohemian]

OHE
FPH
DIL
MFT
AIR
Thanks

[In4a$]

Hi Kild
My picks, thanks for running this
ALF
AWF
NWF
SCL
SUM

[gv1]

Hi
SUM
XRO
ATM
PEB
NPX

[toucan22]

ATM
BGR
CRP
NZO
PEB
Thanks

[ari]

AIA
FPH
RBC
SEA
SNK

Many thanks

[waikare]

ATM
FPH
HBY
PGW
RYM

Hold all five..... Thanks

[garfy]

ATM
HNZ
PEB
PGW
THL

Hold all - Thanks.

[klid]

Hi Kild
My picks, thanks for running this
ALF
AWF
NWF
SCL
SUM


Ogc
peb
ntl
nzo
hzn

Sorry but ALF didn't make the cut having $10m market cap.

JBMurc, likewise NTL, and I am not sure what HZN is?

[golden city]

peb..thl..dpc..til..nzr

[biker]

BRL
CRP
DPC
PEB
RBC

Hold them all

[Casino]

SUM
OHE
PEB
AIA
SKC

Thanks!

[fiasco]

My below picks:

HNZ
ATM
WYN
PEB
AIR

[Latama]

CRP
HNZ
PEB
SUM
WYN

Thanks!

[lissica]

Fbu
rym
ift
twr
mft

[Yoda]

Merry christmas to one and all.
I will take

MFT:t_up:
SUM:(
DIL:p
BLT:ohmy:
SLI:confused:

THANKS FOR ORGANISING. KLID

[RGR367]

Happy BOXING Day to each and everyone of you!

First time to enter so gut feel is for:
RAK
NPX
XRO
SKO
PGW

GL to all and TY very much KLID.

[tim23]

Hi - my 5 selections are, thanks

XRO
TWR
BRL
DIL
AIR

[Kirk]

Hi 5 stocks are

ATM
THL
DIL
IFT
KMD

Cheers

[Beagle]

My picks entered on the site
AIR
HNZ
MFT
FPH
DIL

Thanks for running the comp.

[ScrappyO]

HZN
IFT
NZX
VHP
MELCA

Thanks

[klid]

HZN
IFT
NZX
VHP
MELCA

Thanks
Hi, ScrappyO: what is HZN? And MELCA is not included. The list is here:

https://www.stocktastic.co.nz/stocks

[Grimy]

WHS
BLT
STU
NPX
MET

Many Thanks.

[Pricey]

Here goes!

AIR
VGL
FPH
IFT
KMD

[Harvey Specter]

I note a couple of high profile professional investors have joined the comp. Namely PHuljich and ABhatnagar. Along with the brokers, this makes the competition a bit like a pro/am tournament. Very exciting!
Great. Though do we know it is actually them?

Dont forget to but in the brokers: http://nzh.tw/11379107

[Deej5]

Same as last year and holding (SUM owes me big time)

SUM
HNZ
MHI
AIA
PFI

Cheers and a prosperous new year to all.

[Sgt Pepper]

First time here goes

Dorchester Pacific
Tower
Heartland NZ
Chatham Rock Phosphate
Tenon

good luck everyone

[BlackPeter]

123 Entries and 615 Picks to-date:



#Picks
%Punters Picked
Rank


% of total picks


HNZ
42
34%
1

Top 1 =
7%


ATM
37
30%
2





PEB
35
28%
3

Top 3 =
19%


XRO
29
23%
4





DIL
27
22%
5

Top 5 =
28%


SUM
26
21%
6





PGW
19
15%
7





AIR
16
13%
8





CRP
15
12%
9





IFT
14
11%
10=





MFT
14
11%
10=

Top 10 =
45%


All previous updates deleted, saves some space.

Interesting - three of the ST Top Fives don't feature at all under the brokers picks: ATM, PEB, XRO.

Majority consensus seems to be related to DIL ... and one of the brokers picks as well HNZ.

So I guess - it either will be a good year for the brokers ... or for the majority of the ST punters. For sure it won't be boring ...

[dagoldtoof]

FPH, HNZ, EBO, PEB, HLG...thank you

[Harvey Specter]

interesting. Only difference between forBarr and Craig's being a agricultural exporter vs tech exporter.

[bonne vie]

WYN, PEB, KMD, BLT, SUM
Thanks

[noodles]

Source: NZ Herald 26/12/2014



Broker
Stocks


Macquarie Securities
AIR AIA IQE RBD VGL


First NZ Capital
DIL MFT SCL TPW ZEL


MSL Capital
AIA DIL MRP VML HNZ


Forsyth Barr
IFT MFT RYM SKC TWR


Craigs Inv Partners
FPH MFT RYM SKC TWR


JBWere
FSF IFT DIL NPX MELCA*


OMF
ABA DIL ERD FPH MHI


Hamilton Hindin Green
CNU EBO MET SLI STU



* Note: MELCA is not eligible for the 2015 ST Stock Picking Contest

craigs selection is fph, cen, fbu, mft, met. Yawn

incorrect above

[Baa_Baa]

Source: NZ Herald 26/12/12



Broker


















Macquarie Securities

AIR

AIA

IQE

RBD

VGL



First NZ Capital

DIL

MFT

SCL

TPW

ZEL



MSL Capital

AIA

DIL

MRP

VML

HNZ



Forsyth Barr

IFT

MFT

RYM

SKC

TWR



Craigs Inv Partners

FPH

CEN

FBU

MFT

MET



JBWere

FSF

IFT

DIL

NPX

MELCA



OMF

ABA

DIL

ERD

FPH

MHI



Hamilton Hindin Green

CNU

EBO

MET

SLI

STU









#Picks

%Brokers Picked

Rank



DIL

4

50%

1



MFT

3

38%

2



AIA

2

25%

3=



FPH

2

""

""



IFT

2

""

""



MET

2

""

""



ABA

1

13%

4=



AIR

1

""

""



CEN

1

""

""



CNU

1

""

""



EBO

1

""

""



ERD

1

""

""



FBU

1

""

""



FSF

1

""

""



HNZ

1

""

""



IQE

1

""

""



MHI

1

""

""



MRP

1

""

""



NPX

1

""

""



RBD

1

""

""



RYM

1

""

""



SCL

1

""

""



SKC

1

""

""



SLI

1

""

""



STU

1

""

""



TPW

1

""

""



TWR

1

""

""



VGL

1

""

""



VML

1

""

""



ZEL

1

""

""

[Baa_Baa]

craigs selection is fph, cen, fbu, mft, met. Yawn

incorrect above Should be fixed now, well spotted :)

[Jantar]

And all those companies picked only a single time


ARG



CDI



CEN



CVT



DGL



EVO



FFW



FIN



FRE



FSF



GMT



KIP



MCK



MOA



MPG



MVN



PCT



PLE



SCT



SKL



SLG



SPN



SPY



TTK



VGL



ZEL

[000831]

Peb
hlg
dil
sum
wym

[ScrappyO]

Hi, ScrappyO: what is HZN? And MELCA is not included. The list is here:

https://www.stocktastic.co.nz/stocks
Hi klid its meant to be HNZ and GNE instead of MELCA.

Thanks

[klid]

Hi klid its meant to be HNZ and GNE instead of MELCA.

Thanks, entered.

I entered the brokers' picks too. JBWere are only allowed 4 selections for not following the rules :cool:

They're shown as bold in the rankings and their rank is the same as the persons rank before them, so effectively they're not part of the competition and are just there for info.

[janner]

Hmmm ..

Not entered yet..

Need one out of the box to give percy his come up-pence !!!!..

[PointyHat]

HNZ
SKL
ATM
XRO
NPX

Thanks klid
Best of luck and Happy New Year to you all

[percy]

Hmmm ..

Not entered yet..

Need one out of the box to give percy his come up-pence !!!!..

You are not alone.
In fact there is a "gaggle" of you gooses waiting to goose me!!!.!!! lol.

[Heke]

AIA
AIR
HNZ
FPH
MFT

Thank you

[flying]

My picks.
CNU
SML
PEB
BLT
ATM

[QOH]

Thank you for running this.
GNE
PEB
OGC
HNZ
DIL

[bull....]

dil
rbd
dpc
nzr
vhp

thx for running it past and present

[ekman]

ebo
dil
nzo
rbc
wdt

[Rabbi]

fph
ebo
rym
rbd
mrp
Happy new year

[KJ]

BGR
HLG
HNZ
STU
THL
Thanks Klid

[KJ]

BGR
HLG
HNZ
STU
THL
Thanks Klid

[stanace]

Sum
wdt
nzo
skc
blt

[spmcg]

HNZ
AIA
FPH
from last year plus swapped out (-SUM, -AWF) for
MFT
THL

Entered on the website.

Thanks for running.

[see weed]

ATM, BRM, MLN, PGW & TTK. Happy New Year . Good luck .

[tenzing]

SKL
RYM
BGR
DIL
WYN

Thanks Klid, and happy new year to all!

[zigzag]

HBY SKL ABA AWF DIL Thanks Klid.

[Bobdn]

WHS
SPK
GNE
TME
CNU

Thank you

[mask]

DIL
AIA
IFT
OGC
STU
Thanks Klid

[Southern_Belle]

XRO PEB DIL HNZ AIR
Thanks so much for all you hard work.

[Ginger_steps_]

Xro, atm, peb, vml, wdt. Thanks fellas!

[Toulouse - Luzern]

Hi

AIA
FPH
IFT
MFT
THL

Thanks & regards

[modandm]

Pretty happy with last years results with all my large cap ideas! More of the same this year.

AIR - Revenue growth accelerates + operational leverage + margin gains + lower oil windfall + new fleet + rising dividends = another good year for me
TME - Revenue growth continues, eps growth modest given investments. Nice dividend. PE expansion as people look to 2016 and 10% EPS growth returning. High quality.
TWR - high yield and lots of surplus capital to use. Might get bought.
IFT - Defensive
NZX - Defensive will benefit from increased IPO's etc

Thanks for running it - mod

[Beagle]

Biggest surprise in the world that modandm and I would have AIR as our No 1 pick :lol: :lol: Happy new year everyone :)

[forest]

Thank you klid for running the competition this year.

My picks AIR, PEB, SAN, TEN and THL.

[Paint it Black]

Please put me down for:

AIR
AIA
SKC
THL
PEB

Tourism sector with some biotech.

Thanks Klid.

[SCOTTY]

Thanks klid.

Please put me down for:

- HNZ
- IFT
- PGW
- SCY
- WHS

Cheers
-

[hillbillybob]

Happy new year.

AIA
AIR
DIL
FPH
MET

regards :confused:

[percy]

Thanks klid.

Please put me down for:

- HNZ
- IFT
- PGW
- SCY
- WHS

Cheers
-

PLEASE EXPLAIN NOTICE ?
Are you trying to repeat your fine effort in the 2014 competition, where you featured last, from near beginning to end, finishing up 210th with minus 53.25%????
The reason I ask is I have large holdings in HNZ and PGW and have been considering IFT.

[Joshuatree]

Hope you hold them Scotty; thrash most of us this year and fill yer boots:)

[RobbieS]

AIR Plenty of air left in the stock to go higher
BRL Heavily sold; positive cash flow this FY can turn the share price around
IFT Great company with healthy dividend
TEN US housing recovery continues
EVO I've done well on chidcare stocks in AX so why not give a shot in NZ

Cheers

[SCOTTY]

PLEASE EXPLAIN NOTICE ?
Are you trying to repeat your fine effort in the 2014 competition, where you featured last, from near beginning to end, finishing up 210th with minus 53.25%????
The reason I ask is I have large holdings in HNZ and PGW and have been considering IFT.

No worries Perce, last year was pure off the cuff spec. I did not own or follow any of them :)

As in previous years I am trying to be more growenup :)

[percy]

No worries Perce, last year was pure off the cuff spec. I did not own or follow any of them :)

As in previous years I am trying to be more growenup :)

"Hallelujah"!!!!
Thanks for clearing that up!!!! lol.

[SCOTTY]

"Hallelujah"!!!!
Thanks for clearing that up!!!! lol.

Incidently HNZ is my largest listed holding. Pity Estaronline is not listed and eligible for the competition :(

[RRR]

POT
MFT
SCL
MRP
SKT

Thank you

[Microsloth]

AIA
FPH
RYM
MFT
HNZ

Thank You

[Flogs]

DIL
HNZ
PEB
SUM
WYN

Thanks Klid

[evander]

Thanks Klid

DIL
PEB
MFT
SLI
PGW

[elZorro]

Thanks for running the last competitions Paper Tiger.

klid, great looking website, very organised and no bugs. I have entered my choices, and here they are for the record:

CAV
CNU
FRE
MFT
OGC

Cheers.

[Crystal Ball]

Thank you in advance klid
Dil
Peb
Atm
Sum
Hnz

[Abacus]

Thanks Klid,
put me down for: FSF, STU,HNZ, AIR, DIL.

[newtrader]

Thanks Klid

IFT
TME
MFT
HNZ
AIR

[Corporate]

DIL
Xro
Cue
Snk
Air

[klid]

DIL
Xro
Cue
Snk
Air
Sorry what's Cue? I will PM also.

[Corporate]

Sorry, please replace cue with moa. Many thanks

[kizame]

ATM
DPC
HNZ
PPL
cav

[MAC]

ATM, AWK, CRP, ERD, PEB

Thanks Kild, impressed with the website, no bugs, works well, looks good, well done!

[Everwood]

Atm
bfw
dil
wyn
xro

[minimoke]

AIR, CVT, RBD, SCL, TEN.

Method> Took equities from NZX All index and numbered them 1 - 120. Used a Random Number Generator to create 5 numbers. Each number linked to an equity. Bingo - theres my picks

[bung5]

Pgw
ttk
cnu
gne
whs

[janner]

HNZ.
DPC.
ATM.
WYN.
PGW.

From my death bed percy.. Mother of all sore throats..


Thank you Klid.

[Lizard]

I really need to find some new shares, but running out of time this year... maybe OIC will redeem itself for me?
HNZ
OIC
PGW
TEN
VIL

Thanks, Klid!

[percy]

HNZ.
DPC.
ATM.
WYN.
PGW.

From my death bed percy.. Mother of all sore throats..


Thank you Klid.

Get to the Vet first thing in the morning.
Or maybe a PGW store may have a sheep/cattle drench that will do the trick.
Whatever, I wish you a speedie recovery!
I think we will be closer this year with both of us picking DPC,HNZ and PGW.

[Aaron]

OGC - GFC2 to get the price of gold moving
VCT - Monopoly with steady div to offset gold gamble
CNU - Just hoping all goes well as it was nice to nearly breakeven in 2014 for what is a large holding for me
MRP - Haven't done any research but another larger holding I would like to see do well. Return just dividends
PGW - Good Dividend Yield. Dairy in the poo but sheep and beef OK. Not sure PGW mix but assume RD1 has most dairy farming business

Thanks Klid, some quick last minute guesses to help improve my interest in shares for the year.

[airedale]

SPK...............plenty of growth left in the old Telecom
DIL...............plenty of crime left in the world
ATM..............plenty of potential for milk drinkers of the world
MOA............. plenty of bubbles and good beer will always sell
HNZ............ plenty of money in the bank.

And a happy new year to our organiser, many thanks.

[kerryo]

BLT
DPC
SUM
AIA
PEB

Thankyou.

[Sideshow Bob]

AIR
HNZ
GNE
OGC
PGW

Thanks Klid.

[Roadrunner]

Cheers Klid,have entered on the site.My picks are:

DIL
OGC
PEB
NPX
HNZ

[Beagle]

On your marks.....get set.... GO !!! :D

[klid]

Competiton closed. I did a manual update of the rankings - although they will update when ever someone visits and it has been at least an hour since the last update.
I am coming 25th/201 :D

[NOCASH]

Air
hnz
rbd
fbu
bit

[klid]

Air
hnz
rbd
fbu
bit

I suppose that can go through... "bit": Do you mean BLT? I will enter it manually later on.

[Everwood]

Competiton closed. I did a manual update of the rankings - although they will update when ever someone visits and it has been at least an hour since the last update.
I am coming 25th/201 :D

I would like to say you have done absolutely brilliant job with the website.

[fiasco]

I would like to say you have done absolutely brilliant job with the website.


Ditto Klid! You've done an amazing job, not taking anything away from PT, but this looks to be an efficient method going forward.

[Mista_Trix]

Apologies mate I've lost my login details and had to wait till I was back at work (Password is auto-saved on my work computer).
My picks are; (Hope I'm not too late)
PEB
WYN
XRO
DIL
OIC

[Bobdn]

An amazing job, Mr Klid, thank you so much. I'm ranked 171, my picks are all slow burners, nothing flashy ;)

[percy]

An amazing job, Mr Klid, thank you so much. I'm ranked 171, my picks are all slow burners, nothing flashy ;)

You must be joking!!!!!
Day one and Janner is nearly 100 places above me at No.97.
Scotty is No.116.
Don't think I can bring myself to go through the pain of it everyday.
Time for a change.
Wonder what Prince Andrew's sex slave is up to?

[Joshuatree]

Lookslike I've missed out. Couldn't find closing date on here so just looked now on the other website and seeing as ASX comp doesn't close till much later i foolishly assumed similar. But in my defence there was nothing clear to me re closing time on here. Anyways go guys and gals hope its great year for yous mostly esp scotty:).

[percy]

Lookslike I've missed out. Couldn't find closing date on here so just looked now on the other website and seeing as ASX comp doesn't close till much later i foolishly assumed similar. But in my defence there was nothing clear to me re closing time on here. Anyways go guys and gals hope its great year for yous mostly esp scotty:).

You can have my entry if you want?

[Jay]

Lookslike I've missed out. Couldn't find closing date on here so just looked now on the other website and seeing as ASX comp doesn't close till much later i foolishly assumed similar. But in my defence there was nothing clear to me re closing time on here. Anyways go guys and gals hope its great year for yous mostly esp scotty:).

There are the rules on the website and on the first page of this thread, my preference is to start the contest on the first trading day, suppose to be for the full year not half of it:)
Good work Kild

[klid]

There are the rules on the website and on the first page of this thread, my preference is to start the contest on the first trading day, suppose to be for the full year not half of it:)
Good work Kild
Sorry to any one who missed out. I was surprised to notice that the ASX traded on Friday 2 Jan.

[Joshuatree]

You can have my entry if you want?
Thanks mate no. Just my point re i can't find any definitive closing date on the rules on this website and i resisted having to go to another website where it was clear. lesson for me adapt or perish:).cheers JT

[QOH]

Thanks Klid, that's me in 26th spot I think, lol my name is wrong but no biggie, I'll be OOH instead of QOH

[noodles]

Lookslike I've missed out. Couldn't find closing date on here so just looked now on the other website and seeing as ASX comp doesn't close till much later i foolishly assumed similar. But in my defence there was nothing clear to me re closing time on here. Anyways go guys and gals hope its great year for yous mostly esp scotty:).

I want to know what your picks are. Please share. I'm sure no one will object to a late entry.

[DarkHorse]

Lookslike I've missed out. Couldn't find closing date on here so just looked now on the other website and seeing as ASX comp doesn't close till much later i foolishly assumed similar. But in my defence there was nothing clear to me re closing time on here. Anyways go guys and gals hope its great year for yous mostly esp scotty:).

DITTO from me to all Joshuatree's comments. Shame since I'd actually have actually been thinking about NZX stocks more lately but didn't have easy web access over hols... I expect Noodles picks to do well again :)

[klid]

Ahh ok post them when you can then and as long as you're not abusing knowledge you have gained from your 2015 memories then I guess it's OK? :)

[ari]

Lookslike I've missed out. Couldn't find closing date on here so just looked now on the other website and seeing as ASX comp doesn't close till much later i foolishly assumed similar. But in my defence there was nothing clear to me re closing time on here. Anyways go guys and gals hope its great year for yous mostly esp scotty:).

Over 200 entries all loaded on time as per..........can't see what was so hard.

[777]

Post one showed the rules

Entries can be modified only by using the same entry form, up Monday 5th January 2015 at 09:00:00 (or by contacting me here).

Pretty clear what the closing date is.

[percy]

I find life is so much more interesting and fun when exceptions to rules are made.!! lol.

[Joshuatree]

[


"Entries can be modified only by using the same entry form, up Monday 5th January 2015 at 09:00:00 (or by contacting me here)."


Nothing here about closing date and i didn't go to the other comp website where rules are clearer; my bad.

Im choosing food and Riches this year .

HNZ still happy holder
OGC goldie will have its day ,holder
SEK some bonanza years ahead but weather(hail,wind and PSA) risks so higher risk conviction ;not holding atp
SCL ditto above minus PSA not holding atp
PGW- not holding atp.

Happy to run my comp beside you if necessary:t_up:

[Baa_Baa]

Excellent that the results update hourly (not that I'm watching LOL) :cool:
... moi from 8th place to 176th in just two hours of trading. What a ride and it's only day 2. :scared:

[see weed]

ATM, BRM, MLN, PGW & TTK. Happy New Year . Good luck .

Changed DIL to BRM 11 minutes before closing, but is still showing DIL on comp. site, but not too worried, DIL will probably do better than BRM.

[Aaron]

Don't want to clog up the thread with rubbish but just a quick note that on this day 6 January 2015 "Aaron" was number 1 on the stocktastic table. Before you all come rushing to my door seeking my sage advice, in depth company analysis and macro economic soothsaying I would have to admit I can provide none of these things as I made it up on the spot in a big rush. I don't even own OGC, mostly because I recently purchased NCM on the ASX based on morningstar recommendation and have enough exposure to gold miners through that. I got burned big time by the good doctor's recommendations from D & D in the past two years. OGC was the only gold miner I knew on the NZX.

[DarkHorse]

Ahh ok post them when you can then and as long as you're not abusing knowledge you have gained from your 2015 memories then I guess it's OK? :)

Thank you Klid! Really appreciate your generous efforts. Had a particularly ridiculous silly season this year and forgot NZ comp had different rules from Ozzie one which I've followed much more...
I see a lot of value among small stocks: AWF, CVT, SCL, THL, VIL
Just checked prices last 2 days (chose first). Only significant move has been down for CVT (outweighs small gains in AWF and VIL). So I trust all's fair with Monday pricing. If it's too much hassle don't worry...3rd world problems :)

[blobbles]

Oh bugger, missed out?

Any chance of me sliding in a ATM, PEB, WYN, PGW, HNZ, entry? Hadn't checked ST for a while and assumed the competition close date was similar to last year. No problem if it is too much trouble and thanks for taking over from PT kid!

[blockhead]

Likewise Blockhead, who has also been slack ??

AIR, BRL, SPK, HNZ, RYM

[klid]

Golly. This is ironic. I'm not cheating ;)
I'll take a look at the entries later - my view is as so long as they aren't clearly picking stocks that have already advances etc, then it's OK?? Open to thoughts.

[stoploss]

Golly. This is ironic. I'm not cheating ;)
I'll take a look at the entries later - my view is as so long as they aren't clearly picking stocks that have already advances etc, then it's OK?? Open to thoughts.

As long as they have no announcements out , maybe put them in at tonights closing price .

[percy]

Golly. This is ironic. I'm not cheating ;)
I'll take a look at the entries later - my view is as so long as they aren't clearly picking stocks that have already advances etc, then it's OK?? Open to thoughts.

I would like to see them accommodated.
I think they are all genuine,and are not trying to take advantage of your good nature.!!!.

[Joshuatree]

Yeah ,we are all good sports........aren"t we?!!!:mellow::scared:

[noodles]

I would like to see them accommodated.
I think they are all genuine,and are not trying to take advantage of your good nature.!!!.

Agreed. Joshuatree was the winner of the piefunds comp. Leaving him out would be like the epl without Manu.

[see weed]

Golly. This is ironic. I'm not cheating ;)
I'll take a look at the entries later - my view is as so long as they aren't clearly picking stocks that have already advances etc, then it's OK?? Open to thoughts.

While you are at it, could you please change my DIL pick to BRM, which I changed 11 minutes before closing on 5/1/15. If it's not too much trouble.Thanks see weed.

[Joshuatree]

Agreed. Joshuatree was the winner of the piefunds comp. Leaving him out would be like the epl without Manu.

I better put that one to rest; NOT me. Im a follower of others and read a lot of threads (yours are great) on a few websites and am lucky to have made friends with some astute philantrophic people. Also beinga technophobe with dodgy memory and poor discipline and not being able to forensically drill down into a balance sheet; I'm more of an ideas guy; a messenger that can't be shot:t_down::t_up::t_up:

[blockhead]

Golly. This is ironic. I'm not cheating ;)
I'll take a look at the entries later - my view is as so long as they aren't clearly picking stocks that have already advances etc, then it's OK?? Open to thoughts.

If you are so kind as to count us in, do it at yesterdays date....don't want to be holding an enquiry in 12 months time. I've got a feeling I could be in the running this year, nearly ran out the back door last year !

Thanks cobber

[BlackPeter]

Golly. This is ironic. I'm not cheating ;)
I'll take a look at the entries later - my view is as so long as they aren't clearly picking stocks that have already advances etc, then it's OK?? Open to thoughts.

I think we first should acknowledge that the rules (including the closing date) have been clear for everybody who cared to check. Admittedly - the closing date has been earlier than in previous years ... i.e. people who didn't bother to check, might have missed out inadvertently.

From the perspective of an participant (entering in time): people who enter late obviously do have a small advantage if their benchmark start price is the same as for everybody else (31/12/14) ... and I presume giving them a different benchmark date (like first trade after their entry or similar) makes probably a hell of a lot of additional work for klid (though I make here assumptions re the program which might be wrong).

Most of all ... Latecomers create an unnecessary workload for the administrator (manual entry) ... and so I am more than happy to leave it up to klid to decide how long he (hope I got this right?) wants to accommodate for them. Propose however to set and publish a last "late entry" date in the not too far future - and be prepared to enforce that. There will always be people who come late (no matter, how long you wait) - too bad for them.

Ah yes - and another big "Thank You" for klid for first putting in the effort in preparing this flash website to run this years competition ... and afterwards taking the beating from latecomers who didn't read the rules ... maybe we need another rule for next year: Any latecomer to send the administrator a good bottle of wine (or whatever his/her poison of choice is) before being (late) accepted into the contest ...

[Minerbarejet]

More kudos for Klid.

This little website is actually a quite handy tool for keeping an eye on prices without having to go into all the rigamarole of logging in on ASB. An added bonus is the percentage gain or loss since the beginning of the year.
Well done:t_up:

[ari]

I think we first should acknowledge that the rules (including the closing date) have been clear for everybody who cared to check. Admittedly - the closing date has been earlier than in previous years ... i.e. people who didn't bother to check, might have missed out inadvertently.

From the perspective of an participant (entering in time): people who enter late obviously do have a small advantage if their benchmark start price is the same as for everybody else (31/12/14) ... and I presume giving them a different benchmark date (like first trade after their entry or similar) makes probably a hell of a lot of additional work for klid (though I make here assumptions re the program which might be wrong).

Most of all ... Latecomers create an unnecessary workload for the administrator (manual entry) ... and so I am more than happy to leave it up to klid to decide how long he (hope I got this right?) wants to accommodate for them. Propose however to set and publish a last "late entry" date in the not too far future - and be prepared to enforce that. There will always be people who come late (no matter, how long you wait) - too bad for them.

Ah yes - and another big "Thank You" for klid for first putting in the effort in preparing this flash website to run this years competition ... and afterwards taking the beating from latecomers who didn't read the rules ... maybe we need another rule for next year: Any latecomer to send the administrator a good bottle of wine (or whatever his/her poison of choice is) before being (late) accepted into the contest ...
Excellent synopsis...totally agree!

[Jantar]

.....
So I guess - it either will be a good year for the brokers ... or for the majority of the ST punters. For sure it won't be boring ...
Early days yet, but only one of the Brokers are in positive territory and 7 in negative, compared to 75 of the punters in positive and 120 negative. So far punters are beating brokers. :t_up:

[Major von Tempsky]

Must do something NOW before I am destroyed by procrastination and watching the tennis/cricket....

SPK
DIL
MFT
AIA
AIR.

Thanks and regards,

le Commandant.

[amalgam]

I think we first should acknowledge that the rules (including the closing date) have been clear for everybody who cared to check. Admittedly - the closing date has been earlier than in previous years ... i.e. people who didn't bother to check, might have missed out inadvertently.

From the perspective of an participant (entering in time): people who enter late obviously do have a small advantage if their benchmark start price is the same as for everybody else (31/12/14) ... and I presume giving them a different benchmark date (like first trade after their entry or similar) makes probably a hell of a lot of additional work for klid (though I make here assumptions re the program which might be wrong).

Most of all ... Latecomers create an unnecessary workload for the administrator (manual entry) ... and so I am more than happy to leave it up to klid to decide how long he (hope I got this right?) wants to accommodate for them. Propose however to set and publish a last "late entry" date in the not too far future - and be prepared to enforce that. There will always be people who come late (no matter, how long you wait) - too bad for them.

Ah yes - and another big "Thank You" for klid for first putting in the effort in preparing this flash website to run this years competition ... and afterwards taking the beating from latecomers who didn't read the rules ... maybe we need another rule for next year: Any latecomer to send the administrator a good bottle of wine (or whatever his/her poison of choice is) before being (late) accepted into the contest ...
I totally agree..I wanted to change a couple of my picks, which were made with little thought after a few drinks before Xmas..........now I was in last place last night & possibly stuck at the bottom for the rest of the year...& yet I could have entered this morning with 2015 knowledge!

[Joshuatree]

With an investment style like that maybe you should join the gamblers identified comp:t_up:

[amalgam]

At least I read the rules & entered the competition before the so called last entry date..even if in retrospect if I was entering today like you I wouldn't have picked a couple of the shares I that I did.Surely you are in no position to make a comment!

[Joshuatree]

Retrospect is a totally diff subject; We have to stick with our choices amalgam, thought out carefully or with little thought. My position is and was clear; read my previous posts. I suggest you pick your best stocks now and compare it with the competition thruout the year; it has a way of encouraging us all to increase our investment skills.

[klid]

While you are at it, could you please change my DIL pick to BRM, which I changed 11 minutes before closing on 5/1/15. If it's not too much trouble.Thanks see weed.
You did indeed; I've changed it.

[see weed]

You did indeed; I've changed it.

Thank you.

[Hawkeye]

Rats missed out by 4 days ):

Teach me for working through the holiday period and not keeping track of the days

if there is any chance of an inclusion my picks are
XRO
THL
HLG
PEB
STU

[blockhead]

So after a meeting of the politbureau were Blobbles and Blockhead, hereinafter referred to as the two slack B's able to be accommodated with a late entry ??

[pierre]

So after a meeting of the politbureau were Blobbles and Blockhead, hereinafter referred to as the two slack B's able to be accommodated with a late entry ??

It would be good if Klid would let you guys join in - but I don't think you should be eligible for the $1 million cheque that goes to this year's winner. (I'm sure I read that somewhere - maybe just a dream though!)

[Everwood]

It would be good if Klid would let you guys join in - but I don't think you should be eligible for the $1 million cheque that goes to this year's winner. (I'm sure I read that somewhere - maybe just a dream though!)

I don't think anyone should be allowed to enter the competition after closure date. I was disappointed in Klid decision to allow others to enter after the closure date. At least Paper Tiger would not allow late entries. The rules were very clear, and if you did not read the rules that was your fault.

[amalgam]

On a previous post I gave my view on the rules. The rules should be the same for everyone...and have been followed by the vast majority of members.If members have entered after the cut off date, they are clearly entering at an advantage. A rule is a rule

[Joshuatree]

Hey kild we could do a vote on this;maybe mod can put one up if you think its a good idea; sort it out one way or the other. For myself, just one more time The deadline was not stated clearly to me in the rules. Ive pre told kild i m prepared to withdraw if there is too much Flak on this.



Entries can be modified only by using the same entry form, up Monday 5th January 2015 at 09:00:00 (or by contacting me here)


Personally i think there are are few who lack, goodwill, or community spirit. Late entries are to be welcomed imo.Yhe more the merrier it increases traffic, discussion on share trader ,more of the silent majority? join in.

[Deej5]

On further thought, could you please remove my account and competition entry from the website Klid?

I see that there is no rule pertaining to a request such as this, but the web site doesn't seem to have provisions to do so myself.

I fully understand that at the end of the day it's only a "game".

I do know that I'm not one who enjoy playing a game of chess when my competitor gets to move their king two squares at a time, nor do I enjoy a tennis match when my competitor gets a strung racket and I get a table tennis paddle.

I'd rather not take part.

For goodness sake, this IS a game!!!!!! The winner gets bragging rights and that's all. I wouldn't want to borrow your ball for a soccer game, you would probably ask for it back if you felt the ref made a bad decision.

[wizAlvin]

i wonder if "someone" could run a late entry addition to the competition - or those late entrants note how they went themselves and posted accordingly intermittently.
good luck all i'm getting my 20 sided dice warmed up for the asx game across the road as i could pick a winning share if i had too
good luck all
allan

[jennym]

the asx one is run differently in that there is 2 weeks grace for 2 reasons.

1 the holiday period can be a busy time and peoples thoughts are often elsewhere.
2 very rarely does an event in the 1st 2 weeks of the year define the behaviour of a share for the rest of the year.

the 2 week grace is strict though, anyone after that looses out.
the start price is the first traded price from the day following the pick.

this might be worth thinking about for next year.

[Minerbarejet]

Hey klid - maybe we need a rule where the last man in gets to run the competition next year.
You'd be swamped with entries the day it opened.:)

[BFG]

I have calculated the statistical odds of someone entering 2 days late as having a 0.005% advantage. 4 days late and the advantage soars to 0.01%! Now, for those whingeing about it, when there was no major announcements made in that time period for ANY company, is it really worth your wasted time? Remembering, also, that it's just a fun game.

As Robbo wpuld say...

EVERYONE JUST CALM DOWN

(And get me another pina coloda while you're at it) ;)

[davflaws]

And I have just got back from 13 days away and haven't seen any prices. I don't much care whether the following selection is accepted as an entry - but here goes anyway. I don't care when the prices are calculated from, because it seems to me that any advantage in the ups and downs of the last nine days will be swamped by the sorts of movements that are likely over the next 12 months.
BLT
PEB
DIL
WYN
ATM

[pierre]

Poor old Klid - trying to do everyone a favour with his really smart new website and now getting all this grief.

As Moosie says - it's only a fun game. Can I suggest that the latecomers be given until 5pm Tuesday 13th January to get their entries in - then the door be slammed shut for the remainder of the year.

The difference with this year's comp is that everyone starts with the same entry point - the closing price of the stock on the last day of trading in the 2014 calendar year - not the price applicable on the date of entry. I certainly don't think allowing a few stragglers a bit of leeway this year is cause for alarm. Let 'em in if they're keen to join the fun - this is not life or death, it's far more serious than that!

But I suggest that the 2016 competition be opened earlier - say December 20, entry price closing SP on last trading day of 2015 - and close firmly on the morning of the first full day of trading for the new year.

Bonne chance to everyone.

Pierre

[QOH]

Yes I feel sorry for Klid it is only a game. Maybe the latecomers could set up a special section just for them.

[jennym]

look at the asx one guys. enter that if you cant enter this. 1 week to go.

[wizAlvin]

look at the asx one guys. enter that if you cant enter this. 1 week to go.

are you poaching jennym?

[jennym]

i sure am.

[blockhead]

Oh dear me, Bloobles and I seem to have got a bit of a hornets nest disturbed, I will happily withdraw my (one day late) entry to keep the peace.

I did think it was only a game and as an extremely low ranked finisher last year didn't expect to be a threat in 2015.

[Crystal Ball]

On a previous post I gave my view on the rules. The rules should be the same for everyone...and have been followed by the vast majority of members.If members have entered after the cut off date, they are clearly entering at an advantage. A rule is a rule
Omigod, anyone would think that this competition is the be all and the end all. Plu - ease... Think amalgam, yankiwi and Everwood should perhaps get a life and not angst about the very few latecomers who might threaten their placings at the end of 2015...... It is only a GAME but it seems that some of us are getting bent out of shape about the stragglers.... Let them in and don t be so churlish. I am sure they will be amongst the first to enter next time around as they have no doubt " learnt their lesson" and suffered the tongue lashing from a few uncharitable types !

[klid]

On further thought, could you please remove my account and competition entry from the website Klid?

I see that there is no rule pertaining to a request such as this, but the web site doesn't seem to have provisions to do so myself.

I fully understand that at the end of the day it's only a "game".

I do know that I'm not one who enjoy playing a game of chess when my competitor gets to move their king two squares at a time, nor do I enjoy a tennis match when my competitor gets a strung racket and I get a table tennis paddle.

I'd rather not take part.

Sorry you feel this way. Good point, I should have provisions for people to be able to do that, so I have made it:

If you go to the entry form now, you will see a red button saying "Remove entry". Clicking that will present a confirmation screen, following through will remove your entry.

There is a link in the top right saying "My account". Clicking that will present an interface where you can view/edit account details and delete your account.

https://www.stocktastic.co.nz/entry-form <-- Cancel entry
https://www.stocktastic.co.nz/user <-- Cancel account

[Minerbarejet]

Before you go rushing off to press the red button
Just to make it more interesting

Competition 1st quarter prize for the year 2015
Whoever is leading the competition at the end of March 2015 at 8.00 pm on the last day of trading on the NZX
1 bottle of red wine to the value of 20.00 not including delivery to a NZ address and available from a NZ online website.
Winner to provide address to minerbarejet by PM for delivery.
( Not winner69, silly):)

Subject to minerbarejet still being located on third rock from the sun

NO CORRESPONDENCE WILL BE ENTERED INTO

Any others out there willing to stump up for June, Sept, quarters and the biggie, Dec?
Cmon all you budding entrepeneurs, advertising magnates, analysts, lets help klid out here, he has made a great effort to get this website going and has been consulted and has agreed that this may be a bit more rewarding than just plain old bragging rights

[Minerbarejet]

snaps will provides the June quarter being the leader at the 8pm friday the 26th June..... the same rules as miners apply except you can choose a bottle of red or white.
Good on you, snaps:)

[BlackPeter]

snaps will provides the June quarter being the leader at the 8pm friday the 26th June..... the same rules as miners apply except you can choose a bottle of red or white.

good idea - I shall cater for the September winner - being the leader on Wednesday, 30 September after 8pm. Wine: red or white ... and otherwise same conditions as stated by miner (well, the PM with the address will need to go to me;))

[Joshuatree]

Great i will provide a bottle of Gin or spirits of your choice to the value of $35 and i will pay postage(in NZ) to the end of year winner. IF the winner lives overseas the prize will go to the next ranked person who lives in NZ.

[Minerbarejet]

Great stuff boys and or girls. That didnt take long did it.
Anyone wishing to add may do so still to whatever quarter they think or if there are enough it could go on a monthly basis.
I will see if klid can generate a couple of columns for winners and sponsors.
Will change my offer to red or white as well for consistency.
So currently we have:
End of March; Bottle of red or white wine to 20.00 value Minerbarejet
End of June; ditto Snapiti
End of Sept; ditto Black Peter
End of Dec; bottle of spirits to 35.00 value Joshuatree
Thanks to all for supporting this as it will add a bit of interest.:t_up:

[Everwood]

Omigod, anyone would think that this competition is the be all and the end all. Plu - ease... Think amalgam, yankiwi and Everwood should perhaps get a life and not angst about the very few latecomers who might threaten their placings at the end of 2015...... It is only a GAME but it seems that some of us are getting bent out of shape about the stragglers.... Let them in and don t be so churlish. I am sure they will be amongst the first to enter next time around as they have no doubt " learnt their lesson" and suffered the tongue lashing from a few uncharitable types !

I think it is a fair comment made by others including myself. It is a fun competition, but over 190 people understood the rules or don't their entries count for anything? If you were late or to lazy to read the rules that is your fault, life is not always fair.

Someone said, you are worried about your placing in the competition which is not the case. I'm pointing out that majority understood the rules and entered the competition by the corrct time which is clearly shown by the amount of people entered or am I wrong? At the end of the day Klid has the final decision.

[stoploss]

Great stuff boys and or girls. That didnt take long did it.
Anyone wishing to add may do so still to whatever quarter they think or if there are enough it could go on a monthly basis.
I will see if klid can generate a couple of columns for winners and sponsors.
Will change my offer to red or white as well for consistency.
So currently we have:
End of March; Bottle of red or white wine to 20.00 value Minerbarejet
End of June; ditto Snapiti
End of Sept; ditto Black Peter
End of Dec; bottle of spirits to 35.00 value Joshuatree
Thanks to all for supporting this as it will add a bit of interest.:t_up:

I've got a bottle for Kild for all the great work so far ( please PM me and address if you would like to take up this offer ) let me know White or Red . :)

[Minerbarejet]

Great idea, stoploss.
Boy, if we keep this up we will need a liquor licence.:)

[BFG]

If a CRP holder shows up to the Palmy meet I will buy them either a drink to congratulate or a drink to consolr as it falls on the last day for announcement due :)

[amalgam]

Hello Klid....many thanks for putting in the time to set up this new website for this years competition.
The rules of the competition were there for all to see prior to entry..and at least 190 members accepted this & entered the competition
If the rules are to be changed to accept late entries..then with "tongue in cheek" I ask that The rules can be changed so that I can change my picks
After all in reading some of the posts I can see that it is "only a game" & that there is a minimal advantage in entering a few days late. I also see that those complaining about these late entries lack community spirit & are getting "bent out of shape " (whatever that means.)
So on the grounds that these rules are not really rules ..I ask that my picks can be changed ( & in doing so I promise not to cheat...& will use a dart with bent feathers)

[Okebw]

I've got a bottle for Kild for all the great work so far ( please PM me and address if you would like to take up this offer ) let me know White or Red . :)

I'll do the same. Though we better not get kild too drunk or the competition may fall apart :p

[Minerbarejet]

Does anyone have any idea how we might also include some recognition for PT and his efforts for many years. I believe he resides outside NZ so wine is probably out.
Could we call these quarterly donations Paper Tiger Awards perhaps.?

[Alz99]

if its not too late

CNU OGC PEB SEA SUM

[stoploss]

if its not too late

CNU OGC PEB SEA SUM

There always has to be a comedian .....
I'm happy to let everyone in , but anything that has had an announcement
out like SUM , should have start price end of today's trading :)

[BlackPeter]

There always has to be a comedian .....
I'm happy to let everyone in , but anything that has had an announcement
out like SUM , should have start price end of today's trading :)

Have to agree - it is now getting ridiculous. If we really accept these amazing predictions of past events, than at least we would need to add a penalty for these people which removes their benefit of coming late. If that's easy to do klid, than feel free to do so, otherwise I really think we should finally close the competition for new entries.

[klid]

Hawkeye's was the last one I added and I think subsequent ones are too late.

So the slightly late ones are:

Joshuatree: HNZ OGC SEK SCL PGW
bobbles: ATM PEB WYN PGW HNZ
blockhead: AIR BRL SPK HNZ RYM
Major von Tempsky: SPK DIL MFT AIA AIR
Hawkeye: XRO THL HLG PEB STU

[Alz99]

There always has to be a comedian .....
I'm happy to let everyone in , but anything that has had an announcement
out like SUM , should have start price end of today's trading :)

lol thanks but they are still the same picks as last year for me..

im not out to win just learn from you ole fellas:)

[klid]

Spooky happenings in the rankings. Caused by observation?
Where a contestant sits in close proximity to a Broker ( interference? ) there are strange warping effects in the rankings.

Pinging Schrodinger. Can you jump online and explain please.
I'm experiencing bouts of imagining I'm oscillating between universes. Maybe I need a reality check.

'da fool.
The brokers are there merely for observation purposes and they inherit the ranking of the person... above them. But I can see I need to make a slight tweak to the ordering.
Does that explain your observations?

[bunter]

Hi Klid,
A couple of suggestions for this year or next...

Firstly, some more late entrants...
1) NZ50 - how about putting this on for comparison?
2) Also the sharetrader top 5 - as last year.
3) And the broker top 5?


Secondly, maybe for next year, how about a 'sandpit' or whatever you want to call it - a separate parallel non-competitive group where people can create as many entries as they like, to test theories - e.g. the five strongest up-trending stocks, the five in the strongest downtrend, your own 5 biggest holdings, the five you think will do the worst, the five best performers from last year, the five worst performing from last year (someone did this I think), the five most undervalued, five that nobody picked, etc.

That'd be a good place for latecomers too.

Also - just double checking on dividend treatment - last year I think PT took the gross div, then took tax off (at 30%? 28%?), then credited that to the contestant's 'account'.

I think that's the right way to treat divs.

[In4a$]

Hi Klidd, I put my entry in on the 24th December. Cant see me on the list. Can you check please
In4a$ (http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/member.php?12788-In4a) replied to a thread 2015 Stock Picking Contest (http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?10064-2015-Stock-Picking-Contest) in NZX (http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/forumdisplay.php?5-NZX)
Hi Kild My picks, thanks for running this ALF AWF NWF SCL SUM

[klid]

Thanks bunter and I will log the gross/imp cr/drwt etc for them all so I can do it like that.


Hi Klidd, I put my entry in on the 24th December. Cant see me on the list. Can you check please
In4a$ (http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/member.php?12788-In4a) replied to a thread 2015 Stock Picking Contest (http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?10064-2015-Stock-Picking-Contest) in NZX (http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/forumdisplay.php?5-NZX)
Hi Kild My picks, thanks for running this ALF AWF NWF SCL SUM

Hi, yeah I PM'd you. ALF isn't eligible as a stock because it did not have a $10 million market cap as at 1 Dec 2014. What do you want instead?
Also, cannot store this $ symbol in my user table :)
Do you want to be: 'In4abuck'?

[dingoNZ]

GNE is killing me, ah well. I know its undervalued, time will correct it!

[DarkHorse]

Hawkeye's was the last one I added and I think subsequent ones are too late.

So the slightly late ones are:

Joshuatree: HNZ OGC SEK SCL PGW
bobbles: ATM PEB WYN PGW HNZ
blockhead: AIR BRL SPK HNZ RYM
Major von Tempsky: SPK DIL MFT AIA AIR
Hawkeye: XRO THL HLG PEB STU

Hi Klid
sorry to be a nuisance but I can't see my 'name' there - put in my picks at post 168 (a few days prior to Hawkeye).
I'd appreciate it if you could add them
cheers DH

[jennym]

if its not too late

CNU OGC PEB SEA SUM

come over to the dark side. you have until the end of this week. your entry is the 1st trade from the day after your pick. (must be aussie ones though.)

[In4a$]

Thanks Klidd, Will Swap ALF for ATM if I may. And yes, In4abuck is okay if you can change it


Hi, yeah I PM'd you. ALF isn't eligible as a stock because it did not have a $10 million market cap as at 1 Dec 2014. What do you want instead?
Also, cannot store this $ symbol in my user table :)
Do you want to be: 'In4abuck'?[/QUOTE]

[klid]

Thanks added you and added DarkHorse - I missed that one because it didn't look like an entry when skimming over I guess :)

[Baa_Baa]

Sharetrader - 2015 Stock Picking Contest
Summary


209
punters entries
4.4%
of ST members


8
brokers entries
112
stocks picked


1084
picks

14
stocks not picked










Stock
# Picks
% Picked
Rank
% of total picks


HNZ
78
36%
1
Top 1 =
7%


PEB
57
26%
2




ATM
55
25%
3=




DIL
55
25%
3=




XRO
39
18%
5
Top 5 =
26%


AIR
36
17%
6




SUM
34
16%
7




IFT
29
13%
8=




PGW
29
13%
8=




MFT
27
12%
10
Top 10 =
40%



Good luck and all the best everyone, thanks again to klid for organising this years contest and his excellent website featuring entries and standings updated hourly. https://www.stocktastic.co.nz/rankings

[janner]

Sharetrader - 2015 Stock Picking Contest
Summary


209
punters entries
4.4%
of ST members


8
brokers entries
112
stocks picked


1084
picks

14
stocks not picked










Stock
# Picks
% Picked
Rank
% of total picks


HNZ
78
36%
1
Top 1 =
7%


PEB
57
26%
2




ATM
55
25%
3=




DIL
55
25%
3=




XRO
39
18%
5
Top 5 =
26%


AIR
36
17%
6




SUM
34
16%
7




IFT
29
13%
8=




PGW
29
13%
8=




MFT
27
12%
10
Top 10 =
40%



Good luck and all the best everyone, thanks again to klid for organising this years contest and his excellent website featuring entries and standings updated hourly. https://www.stocktastic.co.nz/rankings

Thanks for that ..

Not Baa Baa d at all :-))

[Leftfield]

Just returned from an extended holiday and have missed placing my entry. However I plan to piggy back on XROF's entry as his/her picks are the same as mine.
Also wanted to say a BIG thank you to KLID for setting this up and providing such an awesome resource. Fabulous work much appreciated.

[Toulouse - Luzern]

Hi

Just noticed J B Were appear to only have 4 x stock picks


43 JBWere FSF IFT DIL NPX 2.94%

[Baa_Baa]

Hi, Just noticed J B Were appear to only have 4 x stock picks

43 JBWere FSF IFT DIL NPX 2.94%

They picked MELCA as well but that was not allowed. You'll see the discrepancy as well in the Summary table that I posted .. with 1084 stocks picked overall, being 1 less than the total should be.

[Yoda]

Hi klid
i notice that results are posted to 2 decimal points and that BLT is registering as 0.02 when it should be 0.019 . It's just that if it has to go to 0.026 to change to 0.03, then that might never happen and we miss out on 25% or something .....
As it stands im getting a free 5% :t_up:

[Okebw]

Let's just all remember this moment before I drop back in to obscurity as far as the competition goes :)

[shonen knife]

Hi klid
i notice that results are posted to 2 decimal points and that BLT is registering as 0.02 when it should be 0.019 . It's just that if it has to go to 0.026 to change to 0.03, then that might never happen and we miss out on 25% or something .....
As it stands im getting a free 5% :t_up:

Yeah same with SeaDragon ... apart from I am losing a free 5%:

Price: $0.02
Price start of year: $0.02
Dividends this year: $0.00
Manual adjustments: $0.00
Change this year: -4.55%

[Minerbarejet]

Perhaps redo your login - klid fixed this ages ago.

[Jantar]

Let's just all remember this moment before I drop back in to obscurity as far as the competition goes :)
You just stay right where you are. And if I can always be one or two places ahead of you I'll be very happy. :D

[Yoda]

Perhaps redo your login - klid fixed this ages ago.
Thanks, i,ll try that

[klid]

Thanks, i,ll try that
I fixed it yesterday, all that was wrong was that the POPUPS were showing the prices rounded to 2 decimal places rather than 3. The percentage yearly change was always correct.
It now rounds to 3dp so it should be consistent throughout the site now where prices have 3dp and percentages have 2.

Thanks for pointing it out.

p.s. *cough* look at the rankings :)

[Minerbarejet]

Nasty cough you have there, klid. Have you tried some BLT?:)
I have been subjected to gross injustice dropping from 1 to 144 on a couple of occasions.
All seems to be working pretty well though. Well done.

[Yoda]

I fixed it yesterday, all that was wrong was that the POPUPS were showing the prices rounded to 2 decimal places rather than 3. The percentage yearly change was always correct.
It now rounds to 3dp so it should be consistent throughout the site now where prices have 3dp and percentages have 2.

Thanks for pointing it out.

p.s. *cough* look at the rankings :)haha yea, i was 8 at one point, never to be repeated I'm sure. its an awesome site , and keeps me and the good lady entertained each evening..... . Im sure the gross fluctuations will calm down as the months go by and i steadily make my way.....to somewhere over the rainbow....

[Yoda]

And ,go Klid, you deserve stay on top after all that hard work. This comp was made for you !

[bunter]

For comparison, the NZ50 was at +1.88% this morning pre-open - in 84th place.

Klid, would it be a lot of trouble to have Mr NZ50 as an entrant?

[In4a$]

That hurts, I was No.1 for a few days last week and over the moon with glee, now 13th !! How quickly fortunes can change. ;)
In4a$ alias In4abuck
Discl: Hold all 5 and happy with my gains so far.

[klid]

For comparison, the NZ50 was at +1.88% this morning pre-open - in 84th place.

Klid, would it be a lot of trouble to have Mr NZ50 as an entrant?
I guess not but that list can change. What about all the stocks in the contest. I did a simple query to get the average and I have put that at the top of the rankings/stock pages just under the box where you can filter stuff:

Average yearly movement for all stocks (https://www.stocktastic.co.nz/stocks): 0.57%

[bunter]

Thanks Klid, I think that's a good yardstick too. Interestingly the NZ50 seems to be outperforming the stocklist by quite a bit.

BTW, the NZ50 component stocks don't matter do they, when calculating the NZ50 percentage gain for 2015?

It's just (nz50(today) - nz50 (Jan 1 2015)) / nz50(Jan 1 2015)

[see weed]

Wow! TTK was my wild card:eek2:. Down over 30%. What a laugh.:DGlad I have no shares in that company. It nearly fart me out the back door.