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dingdong
07-08-2005, 03:10 PM
Yes yes I am unworthy O Stolwykos strike me down with your gold bars, stone me to death with all your gold nuggets.

Oh I forgot, you don't actually OWN any physical gold, do you?

stolwyk
07-08-2005, 03:19 PM
You have denigrated me many times on threads and joining others to do so. Courtesy is a strange word to you. But your stalking has been noticed.

I don't think you are an investor; still, carry on if you must, goldbug!;)

I have a portion of cash in Gold stocks as Insurance. But I have holdings in other stocks. That is well known.

It is no different than a Bank having gold as part of their reserves.

One day, you will know why the use of gold as Insurance is a normal thing to do. As with insurance, one can pay a premium.

Keep stalking!

stolwyk
07-08-2005, 03:20 PM
Financial sense newshour:
http://www.netcastdaily.com/fsnewshour.htm


CHINA'S BELL TOLLS LOUDER. ARE YOU LISTENING?
by Peter Schiff


The World Is Flat
John Mauldin
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/mauldin080605.html

tricha
07-08-2005, 03:33 PM
Nothing, but nothing stays the same in this ever fast changing world.

100 years ago sure, gold was King.:D[^]

As far as I am concerned the current king is oil, it makes the world go around!

Oil is akin to having money, it makes things happen, it's as simple as that.

Maybe that's why oil is so high now in US$, the US$ is probably worth a lot less because the way the yanks have been printing money.

True story! Who knows, I'll stick to anything but gold.

Have a great metal [B)][}:)]

P.S But there is always the chance of the sheep mentality of man, gold could take off for a little while.

dingdong
07-08-2005, 03:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by stolwyk

You have denigrated me many times on other threads. Courtesy is a strange word to you. But your stalking has been noticed.


I would never think of denigrating you O Stolwykos. You are a god. I worship your every post. I do not stalk, I follow. I obey your every commandment, ramp and tip sheet. I am unworthy to be your sycohphant.

stolwyk
08-08-2005, 09:09 PM
TRANSCRIPTION OF INTERVIEW

August 6, 2005
Matthew R. Simmons, President
Simmons & Company International.
Twilight in the Desert: The Coming Saudi Oil Shock and the World Economy
http://www.financialsense.com/transcriptions/Simmons.html


S.Africa gold miners start strike
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticleSearch.aspx?storyID=83449+07-Aug-2005+RTRS&srch=gold

stolwyk
09-08-2005, 01:10 PM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Oil Sets Another Record High
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1123538432.php

Current: USD 87.83 Euro 1.237 Gold 434.8 Silver 7.00 Oil 64.11

Norcini: Some Comments on Gold
http://news.goldseek.com/DanNorcini/1123542657.php

D&D Conference
Resources boom to last 5yrs
http://www.ntnews.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,7034,16197870%255E462,00.html

stolwyk
10-08-2005, 04:05 PM
Gold prices, indexes edge upward
Fed decision to hike rates supportive for gold: analysts
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?column=Metals+Stocks&siteid=mktw&dist=

Current: USD 87.82 Euro 1.236 Gold 434.9 Silver 7.05 Oil 63.2


The Daily Resource - 8/9/2005
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=239


Juiced Data - Mauldin
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/mauldin080805.html


INFLATION
"The Obvious is Obviously Wrong"
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/baltin080805.html

stolwyk
11-08-2005, 01:03 PM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – $65 Oil Reverses Market Rally
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1123709938.php

Current: USD 87.45 Euro 1.238 Oil 64.95 Gold 437.6 Silver 7.09


China says its currency basket is dominated by dollar, euro, yen and won
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050810/bs_afp/chinaforexyuan_050810100653;_ylt=AnrVLMBOplQsVx.74 YW6KxemOrgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl


NY gold settles higher on boost from euro, crude
http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuoteCompanyNewsArticle.jhtml?duid=mtfh1102 9_2005-08-10_19-05-13_n10534848_newsml


FOREX-Dollar suffers from post-Fed blues
http://today.reuters.co.uk/investing/financeArticle.aspx?type=usDollarRpt&storyID=URI:urn:newsml:reuters.com:20050810:MTFH99 197_2005-08-10_10-21-41_L10727717:1

stolwyk
12-08-2005, 10:57 AM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Oil Makes New Record Highs, Gold Makes New 5 Month Highs, CRB Index Makes New 24 Year Highs
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1123815600.php

Current: USD 86.98 (-059) Euro 1.247 Oil 65.93 Gold: $446.8 (+9.8) Silver 7.16

IEA Cuts Oil Supply Estimates, Puts Strain on OPEC
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aTfeNgZhS5Xg&refer=us


As Hedge Funds Go Mainstream, Risk Is Magnified
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/10/AR2005081002092.html


Note, this report was issued a day ago:
Forest: Resources:
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=241

The Gold Report
August 11, 2005
http://www.kitco.com/ind/GoldReport/aug112005.html

stolwyk
13-08-2005, 11:09 AM
Gold Seeker Weekly Wrap-Up - Trade Deficit Shoots Higher; Several New Highs
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1123883215.php


Current: USD 86.83 Euro 1.244 Oil 66.86 Gold 446.0 Silver 7.06


U.S. June Trade Gap Swells to $58.8 Billion on Record Imports
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=aX7azWwt6rEE&refer=home


Europe's economies unfazed by surging oil prices
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/08/11/business/oil.php


COT GOLD REPORT
http://news.goldseek.com/COT/1123879004.php


COT SILVER REPORT
http://news.silverseek.com/COT/1123875458.php

nelehdine
13-08-2005, 12:34 PM
What are your 3 favourite gold stocks Gerry ??

nelehdine
13-08-2005, 12:37 PM
Pref Aussie listed ones with nil hedgeing

tricha
13-08-2005, 08:49 PM
Stolwyk - Can you please help me out on this one -

And yes I have a few winners, but nothing like CSM.

Any TTR followers out there - Can anyone help me out on this one, How many grams of gold per ton in their new mine or predicted cost per ounce.

Reading their reports I have not picked it up.

Cheers [B)][}:)]

stolwyk
14-08-2005, 11:50 AM
Nel,

Due to lack of time, I can't go into details.

One of the better stocks IMHO is the Canadian Goldcorp Warrant,C, at present $CAN3.80. (There is a Goldcorp (G) thread here).

I originally bought Wheaton River Mining warrants (WRM has a thread). WRM and G merged, so now I have G.WT.C Warrants (TSX). The CEO, Telfer may well have a look shortly at the Telfer Project (NCM)? G has $US400 mill cash and standby Bank finance of some $US500 mil. That is a total of $US900 mil!! I dare say, he can get more.

Telfer is one of the world's mining great managers but he has distinguished himself because of his corporate skills (Takeovers).

A classy Investment IMHO. Very low costs. http://www.goldcorp.com/

A very good combination of a producer, explorer and acquirer.

Even at lower gold prices, still produces good profits.
_________________________________________

In Australia, I have BSG; that has had a good run, there is more left, given time, IMHO.

I also have BDG which is responsive to gold price rises. I am not sure if in the future some will be hedged due to expansion. Well placed at Bendigo, a mining town. No problems securing skilled labour there. A miner can just walk to work.

The smaller stocks battle the 30% cost increases, lack of drills and lack of manpower. I was in a couple at an early stage and did very well. The gold price needs to rise some more before they get a look in. That could well occur.


The premium on NCM (about 60%) is still lower than the 110% premium on the large International successful stocks. Premiums are large because it concerns Gold.

Australian total costs of some mines can be high.


Gerry
Holds Goldcorp C warrant, BSG.
Readers, please do your own research and you decide if and when to buy, hold or sell any stocks.

nelehdine
14-08-2005, 12:33 PM
Thsnks Gerry, as you may remember I used to hold NCM ... sold at $18 about 6 months ago, I see they are almost back there after being savaged a few months ago down to below $14 I think, Thought about jumping in but was too busy buying oil stocks ( ROC and OSH ). I recently bought BSG, agree the Mexican project could be huge ... silver and gold everywhere !! I will check out BDG ... have you looked at Lafayette, look cheap but have hedged heavily at just over $400 so gold price is a bit irrelevant unfortunately for a few years .. 2008 I think

stolwyk
14-08-2005, 12:48 PM
Geopolitical Silver
http://news.silverseek.com/Zealllc/1122654336.php


THE INFLATION MYSTERY
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/saxena081205.html


FINANCIAL SENSE NEWSHOUR
http://www.netcastdaily.com/fsnewshour.htm

nelehdine
15-08-2005, 12:01 PM
Decided on the 3 "B"'s Gerry

Bolsini
Ballarat &
Bendigo

stolwyk
16-08-2005, 12:06 PM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – TIC Data Covers Trade Deficit
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1124161204.php


Current: USD 87.22 Oil 66.09 Euro 1.236 Gold 442.2 Silver 6.95


Gold falls back below $450 an ounce
Dollar strength pressures metal; copper hits a record
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/yhoo/story.asp?source=blq/yhoo&siteid=yhoo&dist=yhoo&guid=%7B3CC6FDB9%2DB9BD%2D4BCE%2D9897%2D8C858A3279 CD%7D


GFMS
GLOBAL HEDGE BOOK ANALYSIS Q2-2005
http://www.kitco.com/reports/GFMS/GlobalHedgeBookAnalysisQ205.pdf


Global: Beneath the Surface
Stephen Roach (New York)
http://www.morganstanley.com/GEFdata/digests/latest-digest.html

Zacca
16-08-2005, 08:11 PM
Some of the smaller miners might do well as the present gold market matures. Anybody got any thoughts?
Gold miners I hold are NCM, OXR, KCN (which has a divy)BDG, PDG and DEG

stolwyk
17-08-2005, 02:04 PM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Global Gold Prices Jump; Markets Sell-Off
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1124228391.php

Latest: Euro 1.236 USD 87.35 Gold 445.6 SDilver 7.02 Oil 66.30


Forest: The Daily Resource
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=247

Although this article appears late there are some worthwhile snippets:

"In oil markets, prices subsided from the $67 mark seen on Friday. But not by much. Helping keep the contract price up were fresh fears over a supply disruption from Venezuela. President Hugo Chavez said this week that if the US interferes in the affairs of his nation, he may stop sending oil north".

“We do not want to sever links with the US government but if the attacks keep increasing, as they recently did, this will put at risk the relations between Venezuela and the United States," Chavez said. "The two oil tankers that ship oil every day to the United States might go somewhere else."
_______________________________________

The Aden Sisters: Oil
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=244


China Struggling to Meet Fuel Shortages As Loss-Making Refineries Cut Output
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050816/china_fuel_shortages.html?.v=1


An Update on the Economy and Money Supply
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/mchugh081305.html

Extract:
"M-3, the Master Planners drug of choice, rose another 12.0 billion this past week, is up 55.1 billion over the past three weeks, and is up 145.0 billion over the past twelve.

Those are annual rates of growth of 6.3 percent, 9.8 percent, and 6.5 percent, twice the GDP growth rate, and about five times reported inflation. Its doing its job, keeping all markets buoyed - the Greenspan put - but for a fleeting moment in time".

Comment: Greenspan keeps the markets lubricated: Apres moi le deluge!

nelehdine
18-08-2005, 07:22 AM
Will be an ugly day for those of us "Mega" long gold and oil stocks today I would think. Oil dn $2.33 and gold off $7 ... big falls !!. Add in a 3% drop in copper and a pretty weak rally on Wall Street and it might not be too flash !!

Hold: AMU,BHP,BSG,BDG,BPT,OSH,ROC,EXL + others !!

stolwyk
18-08-2005, 02:09 PM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Oil & Gold Fall Sharply; PPI Surges
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1124314867.php


Current: Euro 1.227 USD 87.86 Oil 63.03 Gold 439.1 Silver 6.97


Peter Schiff:
Getting to the "Core" of Inflation Propaganda
http://news.goldseek.com/EuroCapital/1124312736.php


Jim Willie: WrapUp:
http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wrapup.htm


Short View: The truths about inflation
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ft/20050816/bs_ft/fto081620051453066484;_ylt=AulnoWJycfZKWwWdqpPH2Z_ 2ULEF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl


Drug prices soaring ahead of inflation
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/0816drugprices16.html

Mick100
20-08-2005, 12:37 AM
Gold oil ratio

Eric Hommelberg

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg081805.html

,

stolwyk
20-08-2005, 01:16 PM
Thanks Mick, an interesting article.

Gold Seeker Weekly Wrap-Up - Oil Surges; Gold Drops 2% on Week
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1124492309.php

Current: USD 88.49 Euro 1.215 Gold 437.4 Silver 7.00 Oil 65.35 (+2.08)


COT Gold Report - August 19, 2005
http://news.goldseek.com/COT/1124483862.php

COT Silver Report - August 19, 2005
http://news.silverseek.com/COT/1124480358.php


Saudi Arabia - The Next Mid East Flashpoint--Excellent article.
http://news.goldseek.com/OnlineInvestorsNews/1124471069.php


MORGAN: What About Silver Demand?
http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/morgan/2005/0819.html

Forest: Resources
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=251

dingdong
20-08-2005, 01:58 PM
There is about as much correlation between gold and oil as the influence Mars has on Uranus.

Mick100
20-08-2005, 03:31 PM
What the gold/oil ratio graph clearly shows is that, when the ratio goes to extreme highs or extreme lows it tends to revert back to the mean of 15.7 bbl to the oz

Currently it is at an extreme low so either oil is about to take a dive in price or gold is about to increase in price or both may occur at the same time to bring the ratio back to the mean.

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/hommelberg081805.html

stolwyk
21-08-2005, 10:32 AM
Global: A Global Inventory Pop?
Stephen Roach (New York)
http://www.morganstanley.com/GEFdata/digests/latest-digest.html

OPEC ups forecast for 06 oil demand
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=businessNews&storyID=2005-08-17T123756Z_01_L17673096_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS-ENERGY-OPEC-DC.XML


Excluding everything, there is no inflation at all
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=reutersEdge&storyID=2005-08-16T181550Z_01_N16175863_RTRIDST_0_PICKS-ECONOMY-INFLATION-ENERGY-DC.XML

TWILIGHT AT THE FED: SUBLIMINAL PARALLELS
http://www.financialsense.com/Market/kirby/2005/0808.html


Financial sense newshour
http://www.netcastdaily.com/fsnewshour.htm

tracker
21-08-2005, 10:57 AM
hey abdab

that post WAS worthy

trade well
tracker

stolwyk
21-08-2005, 06:18 PM
PREDICTIONS OF OIL AND GOLD PRICES

G. Stolwyk

1. OIL
Previous prediction, see page 35: "HOW TO TALK DOWN THE OIL PRICE".
Not too many problems with these 2 predictions.
However, I would hate to predict future prices due to possible spikes to come or the speed used to recover oil from tar sands. The risk is on the upside due to:

A- Geopolitical factors in the Middle east. This concerns the Saudis, Iraq, Iran and Israel. The situation is'nt very stable at the best of times.

B- The worsening relationship between the US and Venezuela. The latter is trying to estasblish a new OPEC in South America. Its President uses every opportunity to achieve this aim.

C- The locking up of oil resources by China be it by buying oil companies or oil supply contracts. These manoeuvres tend to force the US and others to look for fewer alternative sources. The Middle East oil supply to the US becomes even more important in these conditions.

D- The growing gap between Supply and increasing Demand and the pessimistic 2006 Opec Oil supply forecast:
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=businessNews&storyID=2005-08-17T123756Z_01_L17673096_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS-ENERGY-OPEC-DC.XML

E- The state of refineries.

F- Increasing risk of sabotage and violent weather patterns affecting oil rigs.

G- Increasing activity by hedgefunds. Every man and his dog are set to back higher prices.


SUMMARY: Everyone of these items introduce a negative risk and the sum of these risks will vary from time to time but at the moment may well be some $US12-$18/barrel.

As to savings, that takes time. Changing the US culture won't be that easy. By the time, some meaningful savings are made, the supply may become tighter anyway (Peak oil).

However, permanent oil prices above $US70 will bite into the economies, particularly those who are sensitive and haven't updated their longer term supply arrangements. As it is, the US economy, the influence of house construction on the GDP and its associated debt will be affected slowly but surely.

Questions are already asked about slowing down US retail numbers and if oil shows no inclination of moving back to say $65 then it, together with rising interest rates must affect the economy.

Any attempt trying to escape the effect of higher oil prices by tolerating higher inflation may only last that long.
There is also a limit to Greenspan increasing the money supply to avoid a recession.

I think that OIL at $80 will truly hit the headlines.

_______________

2. GOLD
Always difficult to predict but acting as Insurance to unforeseen happenings.
The oil situation and worsening geopolitical conditions ought to be positive for gold, given time.

Exploration companies were hit with higher costs and need a higher Gold price. Total production costs are important when selecting a company for investment.

As to Bird Influenza, there is no need to panic just now, but should it mutate and jump from one human being to another, then it is time to take stock, I believe.

More so, if several cases become known. Then it is time to invest in gold as this means of exchange will find its rightful place albeit in an unwanted situation.

dingdong
21-08-2005, 06:50 PM
quote:Originally posted by stolwykos



As to Bird Influenza, there is no need to panic just now, but should it mutate and jump from one human being to another, then it is time to take stock, I believe.


That's some serious straw clutching, O Stolwykos. The gold price actually went down during the SARS outbreak.

stolwyk
21-08-2005, 07:40 PM
The Sars outbreak is just what it says: an outbreak. AIA actually did very well.

I am referring to a pandemic.

I think it is time you *originate* a few posts rather than doing stalking and making comments. This way, someone else can comment on your posts instead.

Or are you not able to do that? Yes, it requires some effort and maturity.

One of your worst stalking sessions can be found here:
http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20368&whichpage=3&SearchTerms=CSM

Where in a post dated 12 May, 5.28 am, you suggested I had sold my CSM shares.

Now, why don't you stalk other posters as well?

dingdong
21-08-2005, 08:32 PM
Ooooooh Stolwykos I am so unworthy of your venom I follow your every post and ramp because you post more than anyone else and you regurgitate the same type of post time and time again take this thread for example 40 pages of Stolwykos ramps saying the same thing oil and gold far too cheap ramp ramp ramp blah blah blah.

Stolwykos you take the Abdad bait so well hook line and sinker no wonder everyone baits you it's so easy to get you into a tizzy temper so much fun!!!!!

If you keep posting ramps, half truths and complete bollocks about your favourite stocks and commodities you have to expect those with an opposite point of view to reply and you have to respect that.

Yes Stolwyos I am so unworthy of you. Please please post more cannon fodder so I can continue my toadying.

stolwyk
21-08-2005, 10:20 PM
Yes Abdab,

You did take the bait or let me say you recognized the truth and now you have become nasty.

I knew it was a personal vendetta on your part because you don't stalk other posters. No need to hide it.

Repeated stalking is not accepted on chat sites except this one. And chatsites won't recognize your excuse for stalking.

However, you don't care because you have become paranoid over time.

No, I won't leave but will continue to post as I see fit.

In the meantime, please prepare some decent posts so people can at least enjoy some original effort made by you.

I suppose, you shudder at the thought of it.

Some good stalking once again:
http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20368&whichpage=3&SearchTerms=CSM

K9
21-08-2005, 10:54 PM
[quote]Originally posted by stolwyk

THE US ECONOMY IS HELD IN A VICE

G. Stolwyk

Gerry, shouldn't this be on your "future of the US thread"??nice title btw

The US is on a rollercoaster with passengers who have a great time but don't know what is waiting for them: some wheel bearing runs red hot, a wheel from the front carriage breaks off and the carriages fall on the ground, resulting in a massive number of casualties, as a collapsed economy normally does cause.

I am still waiting for the end of Bush's current term for it to be a third rate country, even behind Brazil (your own words Stolli):D

The country like others is in a no-win situation, no matter how the economy progresses. The US President is unwilling to apply some much needed corrections to the economy for fear of a depression.

You have presented the symtoms...what are the corrections?

It gets worse because much needed capital formation is diverted to the construction of houses and speculation. Increasing house prices enable owners to extract capital to be used for buying other properties or for consumption.
At the moment, this employs much labour, uses much capital and manufactured goods. If this construction were to be heavily cut back then the effect on the GDP will be considerable apart from houses losing value:

oh dear Stolwyk...you should have done Economics 101 years ago...is this some kind of joke? That reads like a 19 yr olds first assignment.

you seem to be drifting off into obscurity[|)][|)][|)][|)][|)][|)]

why are you hiding over here with your US glooming?

you ol buddy C9

stolwyk
22-08-2005, 11:42 AM
OIL, TAR SANDS AND NATURAL GAS.

The US: Sources of Energy supply:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/usa.html

The BIG OIL Search:
The Big Plunge-
High prices at the pump are finally giving oil companies the incentive to make long--and expensive--bets to find new supplies. No one is going deeper than ChevronTexaco:
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2004/1018/090_print.html


OIL FROM TAR SANDS.

TAR SANDS-- A BRIEF OVERVIEW:
http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/102spring2002_Web_projects/M.Sexton/

Shell Canada Oil-Sands Cost Target Jumps to C$7.3 Bln
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000082&sid=aNothDhdqZPs&refer=canada

Oil sands costs may rise 35%
http://www.energybulletin.net/2997.html

The Trillion-Barrel Tar Pit
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.07/oil.html

Comment: There is of course a big difference between having to extract oil from tar sands at the surface or having to go very deep.
If they can do open pit mining then the costs could be $15/barrel but perhaps increased by another 50% or more since last year.
There is a massive amount of energy spent to produce energy.



NATURAL GAS

Demand for natural gas to rise in the long run: analysts
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporebusinessnews/view/163854/1/.html


China to Double Natural Gas Demand in Five Years
http://www.resourceinvestor.com/pebble.asp?relid=11840


ATLANTIC BASIN LNG--5th DOHA Conference
(To advance, click on the picture):

http://www.dohagascon.com.qa/dgc/dgc.nsf/28c6f2216c838a0543256df2002e2863/4c3751f4a4a434f643256f1d001ea0e3/$FILE/Michael%20Corke.ppt


World LNG Industry ReviewWorld LNG Industry Review
http://www.internationallng.com/publications/MktgSamp-WorldLNG.pdf

dingdong
22-08-2005, 12:43 PM
quote:Originally posted by stolwyk

Yes Abdab,

You did take the bait or let me say you recognized the truth and now you have become nasty.

I knew it was a personal vendetta on your part because you don't stalk other posters. No need to hide it.

Repeated stalking is not accepted on chat sites except this one. And chatsites won't recognize your excuse for stalking.

However, you don't care because you have become paranoid over time.

No, I won't leave but will continue to post as I see fit.

In the meantime, please prepare some decent posts so people can at least enjoy some original effort made by you.

I suppose, you shudder at the thought of it.

Some good stalking once again:
http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20368&whichpage=3&SearchTerms=CSM






Yes more more punish me more O Stolwykos I am so unworthy stone me to death with those worthless gold nuggets I do not deserve to even get a mention from the almighty Stolwykos.

Yes I am so so unworthy to be labelled a stalker, I have thus joined the elite group of posters like Tracker Miner Enigma K9 etc who have seen through the Stolwykos facade and who dare disagree and take opposing views to our resident deity's commandments and endless ramps, and as punishment are labelled 'stalkers' and are therefore doomed to to the fiery pits of capatilist hell and make money.

O Tracker, Miner et al please accept me into your worthy club.

stolwyk
22-08-2005, 01:27 PM
Yes,
I suppose you are calling on your mates again to assist. That is the way you guys operate here, a gang structure. Can't you stand on your own feet?

Don't bother going to HCopper: After defamation, stalking is the next very serious offence. So stay here and keep on stalking.

I have already noted that you are unable to write an original post for fear that your work will be criticized. Instead, you feel safer to comment on someone else's work.

That sums up your personality: don't expose yourself; stay hidden. Play safe.

Interesting to note you are a goldbug:
http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22124

Refer to line 24 of the table. You put all your cash into gold shares, you lost, and now you are looking for avenge.


Gerry

miner
22-08-2005, 01:58 PM
Abdad your worthy and courageous work has not gone unnoticed,the fact that you don't let Stolwykos drag you down to his petty level of posting has impressed us all here at the "Anti Gerry Ramp Armed Forces" .

In fact we have been discussing what rank we would bestow upon you once we call you up and whether or not you need to go to boot camp or can be sent straight to the front line,you would probably be safer at the front though as Stolwykos aim is well not very good with all his rounds landing harmlessly at the rear,(now and then he does fluke it though and take out the odd supply truck).

Rest assured a decision is not far away,I will personally push your case at our next weekly meeting and if the rest of the high command agrees we will sent you an email with our special "secret" codes,if so you will have exactly 15 minutes to memorise them then your PC will self destruct.

I see from Stolwykos last post he has a dossier on you also,which will help with your application.

Over but not out,keep up the good work.

Yours sincerely
General Miner,DCM,Purple heart,MOH etc.

stolwyk
22-08-2005, 02:30 PM
So ABDAB,
You emailed your mates for assistance.

You wrote:
"Yes I am so so unworthy to be labelled a stalker, I have thus joined the elite group of posters like Tracker Miner Enigma K9".

Comment: you can only rejoin as you were part of that group long ago. There isn't anything elite about this group BTW.

You ought to raise your sight but that of course takes some courage.

Gerry

miner
22-08-2005, 02:41 PM
Land based sprat fishing,fun for the whole family:D[8D];).

dingdong
22-08-2005, 02:50 PM
O General Miner I am unworthy of your consideration. Do I get a commendation for getting past the ruthless Teutonic defenses (aka Stolwykos the Moderator, Emperor and Overlord) and get to Nirvana (Hotcopper)?

Bad luck Stolwykos I am already a Hotcopper member. But as a deity I am still worthy of your omnipotent powers where you can simultaneously ramp on both Sharetrader and Hotcopper.

You are a great superpower O Stolwykos and I consider it a great honour and privilege to worship and flatter your every post. Please excuse my toadying and barefaced flattery but your posts are pure gems, I cannot get enough. More please, more!

stolwyk
22-08-2005, 03:27 PM
Abdab,

If you were a HotCopper member, then you certainly won't be stalking; if you did, you would be noticed and dealt with.

I don't have have any stalkers on HCopper and I think you are not a poster. But of course you could be just a reader there.

Enigma has a spy there to report on me, so I wouldn't be surprised if you were. What alias do you use there? No, I think you won't even disclose that.

Imagine if you posted using your real name as I do. People like you stay hidden, don't take risks and like a gang setting to operate.

You impress me as being a stealthy individual, not used to criticisms. That is why you only comment but don't supply original posts.

I am glad that I am not in your position.

However, this thread deserves better than just a stalker who has his own agenda.

It is very time consuming and expensive to post almost daily on this thread: it takes time to select the material.

On HCopper, there are real participants and I am pleased to get some informed feedback there. Pleasant posters to deal with on the financial threads.

So, I need to decide if it is worth continuing this thread.

Gerry

Baa_Baa
22-08-2005, 04:45 PM
Gerry, go on, save yourself the money and the effort of posting then; just post the website links where you source your basic daily information so people can save them to their favourites, and then go away to Hotcopper or whereever it is that they love you. I doubt if the thread here will die even if you did, but the quality of posts would improve and there'd be less bickering about your blatant cherry picking, ramping and pitiful economic conjecturing.

JMHO,
BAA

stolwyk
22-08-2005, 05:01 PM
Baa Baa,

As to me being familiar with this material, I'll let H/C decide, not you guys. Can't remember any complaints from there and there are a few participants alright.

Actually, I have only known you as a flamer from Sharechat, one who reads the stuff, doesn't contribute but is into personalities. What a shame!

A guy used to degrading people.

As to ramping, a convenient excuse you people use.

A pity you haven't been a worthwhile contributor but of course you wouldn't be so familiar with the subjects discussed, you just use TA, don't you.

JMHO

K9
22-08-2005, 05:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by stolwyk

So ABDAB,
You emailed your mates for assistance.

Gerry



:D:D:D:D:D:D

22-08-2005, 05:36 PM
Gerry So You are still the Moderator & Chief Ramper on Hot Copper Then. Did you give them such a large financial donation to keep them opperating they cannot afford to give you the boot?

stolwyk
22-08-2005, 05:49 PM
Enigma,

We don't have your kind on HCopper anymore. They are gone!

22-08-2005, 06:53 PM
Gerry if they put up with you, they will put up with anyone. How much are you paying them?

22-08-2005, 06:57 PM
Gerry when you talk about emailing mates are you Judging others by your own actions. But it seems you have no mates left. (IE no Support)

stolwyk
22-08-2005, 07:27 PM
The HCopper site is much bigger than this one, yet we don't have that "gang structure" you have. So you get together and all post against the one person. I call it thuggery.

I would be ashamed doing that. Still, when you are hiding behind an alias, some people feel brave.

You are now posting on this thread but you haven't got the faintest idea what is being discuissed. You are just here to flame a person.

I did say we got rid of those trouble makers like you on HotCopper. Of course, the odd new one is encountered but he doesn't last long.

If Management were doing the job properly here, you wouldn't be posting.

And I certainly would'nt want you for a flaming "mate".

K9
22-08-2005, 07:49 PM
Gerry, what facts and who says that your "BOOK" you are writing here on STer is discussion?

Gerry, in case you hadn't noticed THERE IS NO DISCUSSION!!!!


you are talking to your sad little existance

and I for one hide behind NO alias...Gerthard;)


your own writing on the US economy is laughing stock and reads like a schoolboy trying to get to grips with impressing ProF 101 in economics.


keep the laughs coming ol boy:D:D:D:D:D:D[:I]

R....Warner[:p]




PS...and remember, the US will be behind Brazil after Bushs current term

Barahaharaahahararafafafaaaaaajaaakkaa[:o)]

stolwyk
22-08-2005, 08:02 PM
C9=H9=K9= what is next?

That happens when instead of discussing you are flaming. So, when is your next alias due?

If, as you say, you don't hide behind an alias then why not use your real name all the time?

Still, safety in numbers, is it not? That's about 5 to 1 (me) and no doubt reinforcements will be called in. That is how you guys work and you compared with the others already have a few posts, I see.

Do you feel brave? Perhaps you fill the gaps when others go for dinner.

Gerry

dingdong
22-08-2005, 09:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by stolwyk

So ABDAB,
You emailed your mates for assistance.

Gerry



Yes Stolwykos I am so unworthy of your good self I had to email others so they could also revel in your almighty grandeur. Yes Stolwykos it's all a conspiracy. Yes we're all out to get you. In fact Miner Tracker Engima K9 and myself might be the same poster. Hahahaha they're coming to take you away haha. To the funny farm the great Stolwykos shall go.

PS I can and have posted on Hotcopper too.

PPS The more vitriol you post about me the more I am unworthy.

22-08-2005, 09:32 PM
Gerry as you are the moderator on Hot Copper you just ban everybody that does not Kiss your behind and praise every posting of the great GURU Stowykos.

K9
22-08-2005, 10:11 PM
ok roger that norman

11.27 you say...

right, 6 way call

0184288666[}:)]



:D

stolwyk
22-08-2005, 10:18 PM
So Abdab,

Suddenly you feel a lot braver now with all your "protectors" around you.

That fits your mental makeup quite well, I think.

Care to tell me under what alias on HotCopper you posted? You need to show some evidence now you mentioned it, otherwise don't bother
talking about it.

Geoff7
23-08-2005, 12:20 AM
Geez,
I can only say some of you blokes have a lot of time to do bugger all.
If this is not your cup of tee GO AWAY, pick another thread. Some of us are reading it, and are a lot more interested in it then your childish dribble.
If you think it is big and tough to do what you are doing, then you need bigger fingers.

Abdab, you were funny once but now you have lost it.
The rest of you grow some b8lls so you can form an opinion of your own.

Zacca
23-08-2005, 08:14 AM
Can I refer you to the subject of this thread, we are quite probably in the early stages of the decline of a world currency. such changes apparently don't occur without huge global ramifications. If you include the environmental changes that are not in this topic then the currents and cross currents become very complex indeed, I for one would like to hear a wide and varied debate on the subject not the mud slinging that has been apparent here. Remember it might be your nest egg that is at risk if anybody gets their argument wrong that's more important surely than the rush to the ego of winning an argument?

stolwyk
23-08-2005, 11:31 AM
Thanks Geoff7 and Zacca.

Gold Seeker Closing Report – Gold Ends Off Its Highs
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1124746637.php


Current: USD 88.06 (-0.43) Euro 1.223 Gold 437.7 Silver 7.03 Oil 65.40


China's Growth May Extend Commodity Boom, Helping BHP, Rio
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000081&sid=aca9IvpKuubo&refer=australia


China National Petroleum to Buy PetroKazakhstan
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=a5ekOqJ9AQRM&refer=home


Record fund long position in gold 'bearish' -trade
http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuoteCompanyNewsArticle.jhtml?duid=mtfh3893 4_2005-08-22_19-17-09_n22546638_newsml


Forest: Resources:
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=253

diesel
23-08-2005, 11:34 AM
Thats the problem zacca no one here is permitted to voice an opinion that is different to Gerry. When you do he attacks you rather than debating the differing viewpoints.

By the way lets not forget this is a forum to discuss sharetrading. If you want the daily news that gerry posts I would recommend you visit www.financialsense.com www.321gold.com www.safehaven.com www.prudentbear.com www.gold-eagle.com and you will find all the stuff gerry posts + more.

If you are too lazy and just follow gerrys posts then you are going to make the same mistakes he does. Investing based upon others opinions and views is placing your nestegg in someone elses hands. Do you really trust Gerry to look after your capital?

No doubt Gerry will reply to this with the usual slander rather than taking some constructive critisism or engaging in worthwhile debate.

Sigh.....

stolwyk
23-08-2005, 11:41 AM
Yes Diesel,
There is room for discussion but not for that kind, you like: personalities.

There is a discussion going on H/C now and these articles are gratefully accepted.

It is the readership what matters and this thread is very popular with or without trouble makers.

The posts starting with "Prediction of gold and Oil prices" and the following dealing with tarsands and natural gas was doing very well both at H/C(400) and ST.

I judge by the readership not flaming by a few posters.

Gerry

K9
23-08-2005, 02:26 PM
been emailing your buddies on HC stolli?

Aussie to the rescue:D!!!




Why should Gerry post links from sites you can access yourself, yes very good point Diesel. I suspect it is to disguise his very very lame posts "by Gerry Stolwyk". When you actually read what his take on all those "other opinions" is...it reads like a schoolboy 101 paper.

What is the point?

Readership...he says[:I] plain weird[|)]

The ratio of said "readership" to actual discussion and posts by OTHER people is in fact, one of the POOREST on the site!

debate that fool

stolwyk
23-08-2005, 03:39 PM
C9=H9=K9, what next alias?

You were kicked out twice by ST. Why? Because of heavy flaming. I think the readers will take that into account when perusing your posts, more so, because you don't post on this thread, except for flaming in the last couple of days.

Did I email for assistance? If I did, I could have at least some 6-8 people posting here. But unlike you guys, I don't work in a gang setting, so I did'nt: Poster Geoff7 having a well deserved go at you guys is a regular one on ST.

Management from all chat sites get summaries of *readership*. I happened to see one from H/C some time ago. That is what matters and advertizing fees are based on.

Nobody, except you, wants to know many contributors this thread has, although the total contributors as a whole are also shown in the summaries.

As far as quality of my own special posts on this thread is concerned, I accept the judgment of my H/C peers rather than that from a few flamers from ST. I can tell you, these posts are in demand over there.

As to deciding if we should have this thread, this is a democracy, fortunately. As long as the readership is good, it means that the interest is there.

I suggest you stop flaming.

Gerry

MPC
23-08-2005, 04:45 PM
I have spent two months avoiding posts with the Stolwky name attched to them and by mistake slipped over here again. Great to see he is now up to almost 6000 posts talking to himself, trying to control the internet and run it according to his old man ways, annoying people and posting links.

Keep up the good work, I wish I had your life.
Cheers,
MPC

stolwyk
23-08-2005, 05:04 PM
MPC,

Thanks my old "friend".

So, this is your first post on this thread. That figures.

Still waiting for you to write a decent quality post. It will be a long wait, I think. You are that kind of person who "borrows" data from posters but contributes little. How about saying, "Thanks", now and then.

Gerry

23-08-2005, 07:30 PM
Gerry I will thank God the day I read your obituary. Surely you are not of sound mind if you expect thanks for this rubbish.

K9
23-08-2005, 09:02 PM
[quote]Originally posted by stolwyk

C9=H9=K9, what next alias?

You were kicked out twice by ST. Why? Because of heavy flaming. I think the readers will take that into account when perusing your posts, more so, because you don't post on this thread, except for flaming in the last couple of days.

Well Gerry, I don't see anyone chasing me for being a ramper or an idiot...you have dozens, well done. I was kicked out by maybe just 1!!! person (like you) who cannot stand the truth.

Did I email for assistance? If I did, I could have at least some 6-8 people posting here. But unlike you guys, I don't work in a gang setting, so I did'nt: Poster Geoff7 having a well deserved go at you guys is a regular one on ST.

Woo, impressive following, however both your mates funnily came from Aussie to your assistance suddenly, and Geoff7...well he must be a powerful fellow with 59 posts[:I]

Management from all chat sites get summaries of *readership*. I happened to see one from H/C some time ago. That is what matters and advertizing fees are based on.

Your said "readership" must mean squat if NOONE answers back...this diatribe you call "debate" has the worst participation rate on STer. That means Stolli...NO ONE CARES, you talk to yourself all day wasting bandwidth.

Nobody, except you, wants to know many contributors this thread has, although the total contributors as a whole are also shown in the summaries.

As far as quality of my own special posts on this thread is concerned, I accept the judgment of my H/C peers rather than that from a few flamers from ST. I can tell you, these posts are in demand over there.

Then why do you peddle your pathetic wares here, stay there...demand:D:D:D:D:D from who? do you sell it.. idiot?

As to deciding if we should have this thread, this is a democracy, fortunately. As long as the readership is good, it means that the interest is there.

I suggest you stop flaming.

as always, you don't suggest to me. I am telling you, this is how I see it...and so are others, quite clearly

are you senile?

BTW...have you given up pumping penny stocks? ...oh thats right...so 03!

K9
23-08-2005, 09:06 PM
quote:Originally posted by stolwyk

MPC,

Thanks my old "friend".

So, this is your first post on this thread. That figures.

Still waiting for you to write a decent quality post. It will be a long wait, I think. You are that kind of person who "borrows" data from posters but contributes little. How about saying, "Thanks", now and then.

Gerry



exactly what you do day in day out on this thread


you get weirder and weirder

...but I realise the facilties are well in decline[|)][|)][|)]

stolwyk
23-08-2005, 09:47 PM
C9=H9=K9,

You were kicked out twice by ST, presumably for flaming, I would say. Now you say that one person may have informed ST. What difference did it make if it were 1 or 100 who informed ST. After all, ST still had to investigate this.

What a lame excuse and now you are flaming again, You and Enigma are professional flamers IMO. You just won't let go. Degradation of people is your objective, is it not?

No, I won't tell ST. If I had, ST could have moved some time ago and I would'nt have enjoyed such a good time.

You are becoming desperate, starting to write 2 posts in succession.

I have told Enigma time and time again that he doesn't understand the subject material on this thread, But that won't stop him coming back again for more punishment.

Unfortunately, you both lost the plot. You are being exposed to the readers who know that you both are trouble makers. You don't contribute anything. This is a very public thread, you know.

C9=H9=K9, remember that "Readership" is all important to advertizers.

You guys are also constantly pushing this thread to the top of the list of subjects, not a nice thing to do. Still, you don't care.

Thanks FLAMERS,;)

Gerry

Geoff7
23-08-2005, 10:40 PM
If you dont like it, dont read it.
It takes more effort to harrass, as you currently are, have a think and see if that is the best you can manage.
Or you can move your mouse about 1cm south and click a link that might interest you.

I am a busy person and find it handy for someone to make my life easier.
Go for it Gerry.

K9
23-08-2005, 11:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by stolwyk

You are becoming desperate, starting to write 2 posts in succession.


Unfortunately, you both lost the plot. You are being exposed to the readers who know that you both are trouble makers. You don't contribute anything. This is a very public thread, you know.


Gerry



:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Do you just not see the hypocrisy???....


You said once that "the US will be a 3rd rate country, even behind Brazil" after Bushs term...

That is all I needed to read, yes, just once...to know that your senile self delusions of Gerry reasoning and so called "debate" are slipping into the abyss of cyberspace on flakey grey matter.

I don't even need to wait to until then to know that you are an idiot and always have been Gerry.



Laughing at you[:o)]

stolwyk
24-08-2005, 12:26 AM
C9=H9=K9,

You suggested I called Geoff7 or the other poster to support me. I did'nt. Unlike you people, I don't work in a gang setting.

There are of course quite a few Aussies posting here already. You must expect some opposition to your constant ranting and flaming.

Are you suggesting, they should'nt?

I have kept this site secret but if you want more Aussies to post here, I can oblige of course.

You wrote: "I don't even need to wait to until then to know that you are an idiot and always have been Gerry".

Yes, I said you lost the plot. You did from the moment you entered this site to do your flaming. One day, you will be kicked out again by ST and then you may come back as F9 (Fool#9).

So your CIV will then be C9--H9--K9--F9 and others.

Keep flaming and double posting-You truly got yourself wound up this time!

Gerry

24-08-2005, 11:17 AM
Gerry can you get it into your thick head that a lot of unconnected people dislike you and your boring oneyed postings

tracker
24-08-2005, 11:34 AM
gerry
got the flick from HC and now back to old "haunting" ground
pity, as you and hot copper , well are just made for each other

your perverted sense of right and wrong, (remember banning me cause I disagreed with you, then when I wrote "hahahahaha" and you pulled that as well

what goes around comes around, but eventually its gotta stop sometimes and take a breather, and mate it will all come back to haunt you, and deservably so. Thru that incident you lost at least 3 decent posters on HC, prob only amongst the handful of decent ones left, but hey you got to flex some non existant muscles for a few months didnt you

what a joke, sad thing is EVERYONE gets it but you, you old fool
get a life

stops as always (those in stolli stocks will know why
tracker

24-08-2005, 11:43 AM
GERRY is this true as posted above that your famous Hot Copper has finally woken up to you and kicked you out.

stolwyk
24-08-2005, 11:52 AM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Gold Ends Off Its Highs, Again
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1124832983.php

Current: USD 88.01 Euro 1.222 Gold 439.3 Silver 6.96 Oil 66.25


Stephen Roach: Global: Rebalancing Broadens Out
http://www.morganstanley.com/GEFdata/digests/20050822-mon.html


Chapman: International Forecaster August
http://news.goldseek.com/InternationalForecaster/1124808986.php

Forest: Resources
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=254
Extract:
"And as if all that wasn’t enough, Venezuela was once again banging the drum about diverting oil supplies away from the US. Platts reports that national oil company PDVSA has set up an office in China, and aims to supply 300,000 barrels per day to the Chinese. PDVSA is reportedly looking into a supply agreement with refiner Sinopec, as well as heavy oil joint venture with China National Petroleum Corp".


Big debt imperils economy
Feds, citizens share a spendthrift attitude
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/0822debt22.html

K9
24-08-2005, 11:55 AM
:D:D:D:D:D

Stolli Stocks!


lovin it...

good job peops, thread has finally got some life...or ruined "work" in gerry at trics eyes

K9
24-08-2005, 11:58 AM
Hey Gerry

I have an idea...

with ALL your so called MASSIVE readership


why don't you start your own website!!!! you could troll links all day and night at your own expense;)

Stollistocks.com

then we can really see how much "readership" you have


Barharafarhahaheehehahahaajaaraha

Baa_Baa
24-08-2005, 11:59 AM
quote:Originally posted by stolwyk

Baa Baa,

As to me being familiar with this material, I'll let H/C decide, not you guys. Can't remember any complaints from there and there are a few participants alright.

Actually, I have only known you as a flamer from Sharechat, one who reads the stuff, doesn't contribute but is into personalities. What a shame!

A guy used to degrading people.

As to ramping, a convenient excuse you people use.

A pity you haven't been a worthwhile contributor but of course you wouldn't be so familiar with the subjects discussed, you just use TA, don't you.

JMHO


Thanks Gerry, I appreciate your recognition of my charting skills and substantial readership at Sharechat. I wouldn't expect much more from you by way of reply, just more snarky denial of your shortcomings; and obvious desire to grandstand, despite how obviously it annoys other posters.

Having been brought up on real metal discussion groups that even you could search, although struggle to meaningfully participate, I think I do know a lot about investing, speculating and hoarding in all forms of Gold and Silver and derivatives using both FA and TA. Far be it for you to know anything about how I make my choices, despite your thin attempt to belittle.

I share my views on my Blog thread at Sharechat. I wouldn't ordinarily bother to grace your thread with my thoughts. I know for a fact that your type of posting wouldn't stand five seconds of scrutiny at a 'real metals site' and would get flamed if you went there. Try it, test yourself in the big world of metals discussion. Let me know if you need a link; [:I]

I do tend to pop in here and poke the dullards like yourself so that other readers at least know that someone thinks your posts are infantile nonsense rehashed at best and plagarism at worst. That is a service to those people who might sadly mistake the lack of debate on metals here for genuine insight on your behalf. Moreover people are trying to point out that if you did stop BS'ing the thread then a debate might just happen.

JMHO,
BAA

stolwyk
24-08-2005, 12:55 PM
Hi Tracker, #2 of the ST self appointed gang.

"got the flick from HC and now back to old "haunting" ground".

Comment: Yes, you are full of venom, but no, I wasn't sacked.

However, I have a serious medical problem which lasted for years but since Dec has suddenly got worse. I have an appointment with the Hamilton Base hospital on Sept 1. So, I decided to take it easier.

Actually, you were told of my sickness on HotCopper and you acknowledged it on 5 July-See H/C post. A great pity you are playing politics knowing that I have a medical impediment.

Still, that is you, vindictive as always. And I have said many times that you are a liar:

"got the flick from HC and now back to old "haunting" ground
pity, as you and hot copper , well are just made for each other

your perverted sense of right and wrong, (remember banning me cause I disagreed with you, then when I wrote "hahahahaha" and you pulled that as well"

Comment: I post both on H/C and ST; please check. You are a H/C poster, so you know.

You were told that you were never banned as your record shows. So, you lied again. Of course you did spread it around that you were banned: theatrics galore but that is you; you just can't be trusted to tell the truth.

That I deleted your posts, that was justified; unlike others, you were very childish about it. Why make an exception for you after you abused me first. (Your word "disagreement" is another lie) This matter has been thoroughly discussed; if you tried the same trick with one of the current moderators, you are likely to get a week's suspension at least.

You and the "Gang" at H/C failed twice to have me sacked as a moderator. It only shows that your gang had little influence and finally smashed itself in the end. Some of them are posting on a new chatsite and I am told that Stocko has shares in this.

I did clean up H/C and this was widely recognized by the posters and H/C. There are plenty of posts mentioning this.

Beware, there are active moderators there. I would'nt repeat that stunt if I were you.


Gerry

stolwyk
24-08-2005, 01:13 PM
BAA,

"I wouldn't ordinarily bother to grace your thread with my thoughts. I know for a fact that your type of posting wouldn't stand five seconds of scrutiny at a 'real metals site' and would get flamed if you went there"

Comment: Yes, now I know where you learnt your flaming.

This thread goes much further than your "metal group", still, a dullard (your word) as yourself would'nt recognize that.

Know your limitations my friend, be less arrogant and stop degradating people.

Yes, I know, it comes natural to you.

As to plagiarism, I always recognize the writers.

I think a minimum standard of behaviour on this thread can be expected from you. Don't you have any at Sharechat?

Is this thread successful? Yes, the readership is excellent, like it or not. Yes, I know, you don't like it.


Gerry

K9
24-08-2005, 01:35 PM
Keep flaming and double posting-You truly got yourself wound up this time!
Gerry





:D:D:D:D:D:D

What is your problem Stolli?
A. Alzheimers
B. Afrormosia
C. Amnesia
D. Ana-lgesia
E. All of the Above

stolwyk
24-08-2005, 02:06 PM
Are the school holidays over yet? If so, then perhaps posting can proceed without the usual flamers.


Sorry Readers but thanks for your support.



Iran once again in the limelight:

IRANIAN OIL BOURSE COULD KILL THE US DOLLAR
by Toni Straka
August 23, 2005
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2005/0823.html

K9
24-08-2005, 02:25 PM
good luck with the medication[|)]


and Gerry...open the blinds man!!!l

K9
24-08-2005, 02:29 PM
Hey Gerry

I have an idea...

with ALL your so called MASSIVE readership


why don't you start your own website!!!! you could troll links all day and night at your own expense

Stollistocks.com

then we can really see how much "readership" you have


Gerry, I would like to hear your answer on this suggestion.

24-08-2005, 03:23 PM
K9 you forgot one medical condition on your list for Gerry's Disorder (being born with a complete lack of brain)

Geoff7
24-08-2005, 10:29 PM
Wow, still going...
Tracker, I expected more from an intelligent guy like yourself.
No, Stolly did not invite me here (probably big enough to fight his own fights), but I do tend to feel obliged to jump in when there are so many comments detracting from a thread I enjoy reading.

I think that now all of you have kindly passed on good wishes to Gerry we can probably all move on.

Zacca
24-08-2005, 10:49 PM
Could this thread be renamed 'The Bile File'?

tracker
25-08-2005, 04:56 AM
hey Geoff7
unfortnately this is a long standing rift that just keeps going round and round

I was a memeber at hot copper for like years, but I never really post there anymore, but the sec Mr stolli became a mod I was banned for something lol

I think Mr Stolli was surprised I didnt have multi nicks etc, I was told that checking this was one of his first missions lol so anything would have done , it was all rather funny, unfortunatly HC lost 2-3 (others) of the few decent posters left, over it, ahhh such is power
Mr stolli did leave out that I wished him well re his illness, hey I mightnt like his style, etc etc etc etc, BUT I would never wish being unwell on anyone, selective memory might be a symptom me thinks
So yeah, I hope he makes a complete recovery, absolutely cracks it on the market, and is availble to throw these words in my face for many years to come

Hows that for a challenge Mr Stolli,???

take care
tracker
ps last I looked I was female, but happy to be one of the guys
pps as a relatively new poster, you prob havent seen the examples of the "stolli" stocks we have refered to etc, THAT is what all of this has been about,if you trawl thru the older stuff you will see what I mean, and it WAS dangerous, hence the number of posts that are slightly anti stolli themed

stops as always
tracker

stolwyk
25-08-2005, 10:30 AM
Two tongued Tracker,

I told you you were never banned, but you don't want to accept that. The records show that and these can't be manipulated.

Had you abused a moderator on SS, you would have been banned for say 3 months or kicked out.

All I did was remove 2 offensive posts and that was the end of it, I thought. But no, I forgot your theatrics.

"I think Mr Stolli was surprised I didnt have multi nicks etc".

Why would that be? There is an abundance of posters with just one alias; mind you, that gang you belonged to on H/C has members with more than one alias.

A few are posting on a chatsite partly owned by Stocko, I was told. Some have drifted back to H/C.

You don't want to hear that H/C is in good shape with 1900 posts yesterday. And that was after cleaning H/C from undesirables which would have cost us some 500 posts, because these multinics and trouble makers post heavily.

Regarding my sickness, you said: "sorry that Gerry is leaving for health reasons"

Unfortunately, that wasn't meant because you said here on 24 Aug, time 11.34:
"gerry got the flick from HC and now back to old "haunting" ground".

So, you suggested that H/C sacked me and I was using illness as an excuse.

I did tell you that my relationship with H/C is very good but I won't give you details.

Tracker, you are that kind of person, I would'nt like to meet.

Gerry

K9
25-08-2005, 10:37 AM
Hey Gerry

I have an idea...

with ALL your so called MASSIVE readership


why don't you start your own website!!!! you could troll links all day and night at your own expense

Stollistocks.com

then we can really see how much "readership" you have


Gerry, I would like to hear your answer on this suggestion.

stolwyk
25-08-2005, 11:01 AM
K9,

Why do you repeat posts:

"with ALL your so called MASSIVE readership"

Please tell me where I used the precise word "MASSIVE".

Readership of this thread is very good, when it was started, the "Main Gold thread" had 13,000 posts; it now increased tby 12000 to over 25,000 posts.

This thread now has 18,500 posts. And as said, readership is all what matters to the Advertizer. The less informed don't want to recopgnize that.

I suggest that readers ignore flamers, liars and those with "double talk".

Gerry

diesel
25-08-2005, 11:11 AM
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_209.gif

tracker
25-08-2005, 11:24 AM
how is a post stating

hahahahahahahha
abusive???
just make some money
tracker
and gee stolli I take it my little challenge was not to be accepted

have a great day anyway

stolwyk
25-08-2005, 11:29 AM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Oil Makes A New Record High
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1124919823.php

Current: USD 87.82 Euro 1.227 Gold 437.5 Silver 6.92 Oil 67.78 (+0.46)

Forest: Resources:
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=256

"Elsewhere in precious metals, the South African Chamber of Mines reported yesterday that the nation’s gold production was down 2.4% in the second quarter. Output has now declined 18% year-on-year so far in 2005. The Chamber called this decrease “significant.”


Oil Sands Economics Not Always So Compelling
http://www.resourceinvestor.com/pebble.asp?relid=12249


Bernanke, Hubbard, Feldstein or?
Three-way race seen to replace Greenspan
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B0997E17C%2D9E50%2D41CE%2D9C2A%2D E1FCE52FC277%7D&siteid=mktw&dist=


Threat of stagflation positive for gold
http://www.kitco.com/ind/Pieterse/aug242005.html

stolwyk
25-08-2005, 11:32 AM
Tracker,

You mentioned one post, there were 2 actually. As mentioned, 2 posts were deleted and you were never banned.

Gerry

tracker
25-08-2005, 02:59 PM
no was a memeber since 98???, and the second you become moderator, and I quetioned that decision, as did many others, all of a sudden my email address was no good, so i couldnt post,
REALITY CHECK

selective memory,

ps I have actually better things to do like make money than so sit on share site on all day, talking about making money

see the diff
make some money
tracker

stolwyk
25-08-2005, 07:49 PM
You should have asked H/C for those 2 posts, I deleted. Apparently, you did'nt.

ASIC requires posters to have a valid email address at *all* times. If they have not, they may be suspended till connection is restored.

H/C doesn't use the word "banning" but uses "suspension" instead.

Some people have been banned,ie permanently. Suspended posters tend to return after their period of suspension runs out.

"was a memeber since 98???",
One could expect impeccable conduct from these people but I have come across some of them who sadly did'nt measure up and were trying "to pull rank".

Anyway, your reference happened quite some time ago, the matter was dealt with by H/C (where *all* your enquiries and protests should go anyway) and I am not interested to cover it for the nth time.


Gerry

MPC
25-08-2005, 08:19 PM
shut up

K9
25-08-2005, 08:44 PM
Stolli

How is the "readership"

good quality?

:D[^]

K9
25-08-2005, 08:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by stolwyk

K9,

Why do you repeat posts:

"with ALL your so called MASSIVE readership"

Please tell me where I used the precise word "MASSIVE".

Readership of this thread is very good, when it was started, the "Main Gold thread" had 13,000 posts; it now increased tby 12000 to over 25,000 posts.

This thread now has 18,500 posts. And as said, readership is all what matters to the Advertizer. The less informed don't want to recopgnize that.
I suggest that readers ignore flamers, liars and those with "double talk".

Gerry






Stolli YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!!

852 posts of which 90% + are yours

= 18500! POSTS in your very very sick mind.

please advance therapy;)

stolwyk
25-08-2005, 09:50 PM
C9=H9=K9, what alias is next?


You said:
"852 posts of which 90% + are yours".

So, say of the 18500 reads about 600 are mine (Say 70% of posts. I believe it is less.) That still leaves 17900 reads by others.

Advertizing is only interested in total reads. So, the reads from this thread are added to all from the others.

It is no good calling me an IDIOT if you don't have a clue how the system works.


You said I used the words: "MASSIVE" Readership.
I asked you to prove I did. Where is it?

Why are you persevering with this thread. All you do is flaming and the readers know it. Why not produce a post in line with the subject or are you only interested in sabotage?




Gerry

25-08-2005, 10:16 PM
Gerry how many times do you click on your own threads to boost the readership? 90% of these reads could be you deluding yourself.

stolwyk
25-08-2005, 10:59 PM
You guys try to find all sorts of reasons why this thread should'nt be here. And you are sabotaging it. E., you don't have a clue what is being discussed on this thread.
However, you keep pushing this thread to the top of the list, so take the blame for that, if posters start to complain.

Readers have quickly added another 1000 reads because of this controversy and priority siting, so you guys although sabotaging this thread are losing out.

Thanks Readers,
Of course, you can expect my usual daily financial contribution, so, please stay with it regardless of interference.

Thanks,

Gerry

K9
25-08-2005, 11:07 PM
This thread now has 18,500 posts



Gerry..did YOU write this?

or are you just an idiot!


:D

no answer is OK;)

tracker
26-08-2005, 07:37 AM
mr stolli
firstly there where actually 3 posts
the first questioned the suitability of you being an INDEPENDANT moderator
the second post queeried why the first was pulled
the third post simply said " hahahahahahahaha", which was in referance to the previous 2 getting pulled, they lasted all of 3 minutes max on the board???????
As you know I dont post often on HC I go there just to check out the scenery, and in this case have my 2 cents worth
your pulling the posts was exactly why I posted , as I did not think you were a big enough man to be subjective and honest, I still beleive that
now. if you would like me to post copies of any/all correspondance with hotcopper admin, and the various emails ,(they all seemed to get thru on my email address, funny that), let me know, it will have to be retreived off old hard drive,
Now get on with it, hope you feel better, as I said I hope it is just rsi from all that copy and pasting, and make a fortune today
the challenge still stands lol
pity you cant pull this
have a great day
tracker

26-08-2005, 08:56 AM
Gerry we do have a clue. The discusion is on wether your mental state is sound enough to run a sensible monologistic thread on Gold.

stolwyk
26-08-2005, 09:12 AM
Tracker,

This matter of yours was dealt with long ago but you still keep bringing it up. All I can tell you is that I got A1 support from H/C and the posters throughout. Obviously, H/C decides, not you.

You of course belonged to a gang in H/C and this gang disagreed with my appointment to Moderator. Your gang fell apart after it didn't succeed on two occasions trying H/C to undo my appointment as moderator.

Some of the members of your gang went to other chat sites and I believe that the dissolution of your gang and the power that went with it was a very positive spin-off.

For some reason, you are again part of a gang at ST. If I were the management, I would have smashed it long ago. There is far too much thuggery around here IMHO. That is not allowed on HC.

I made it my job to clean up HCopper regardless of any resistance from your gang. It is generally agreed this was difficult but was successful.

Gerry

tracker
26-08-2005, 09:21 AM
hahahahahahahahha
have a great day
tracker
just make some money stolli

stolwyk
26-08-2005, 09:44 AM
Amendment:

Page 43, 25 Aug; time 11.01 am:
"Readership of this thread is very good, when it was started, the "Main Gold thread" had 13,000 posts; it now increased tby 12000 to over 25,000 posts.

This thread now has 18,500 posts. And as said, readership is all what matters to the Advertizer. The less informed don't want to recopgnize that".


Please amend the word "posts" to "reads".


THanks,

Gerry

stolwyk
26-08-2005, 10:58 AM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Oil Makes A New Record High, Again
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1125005523.php


Current: USD: 87.56 (-0.26) Euro: 1.23 Oil 67.50 Gold 438.1 Silver 6.83


Forest: Resources:
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=257

"On a final note, it appears that God is okay will uranium mining. Nuclear Engineering International reports that an Australian ethical investment fund run by the Anglican Church has lifted a ban on buying into yellowcake companies".



GLOBAL HEDGE BOOK ANALYSIS Q2-2005
http://www.kitco.com/reports/GFMS/GlobalHedgeBookAnalysisQ205.pdf


Fed Summons 14 Banks to Discuss Credit-Derivatives Controls
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=aCcyORCwEhVw&refer=top_world_news


IMF:
Asia's Growth at Risk From Oil Prices
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050825/imf_oil_prices.html?.v=2


Orinoco Flows
by John Mackenzie
July 20, 2005
Venezuela strikes back:
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/mackenzie/2005/0825.html


U.S. Treasuries Fall After Fed's Moskow Says Rates Need to Rise
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aqkbfVpoAPb0&refer=us


US Rents Head Up as Home Prices Put Off Buyers
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/25/realestate/25rent.html

Geoff7
27-08-2005, 01:05 AM
Tracker,
Sorry for genuine mistake.
I have seen some of earlier posts but after a bit it gets offensive, I tend to keep away as nothing to be gained.

That is my point here, some of us are gaining something at no cost to others, now we are running out of threads to read without the dribble.

I personally dont want to get involved in previous dust ups in the playground, just want somewhere to do my homework (as no doubt others do) and I dont think it is unreasonable.

The danger is real that if people start leaving, as I have done in the past, the site will lose its source of existance.

Surely this has gone on long enough.

Ps I have had my digs at Gerry previously (remember the thread 'the mod ramper' yes I was there) but once I make my point I get on with it, as should most adults.
pps, give Gerry some credit he does have a good level of intellect and is certainly a decent stock poster compared to most I have seen.

Cheers.

stolwyk
27-08-2005, 11:13 AM
Gold Seeker Weekly Wrap-Up - Consumers Not So Confident
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1125092831.php

Current: USD 87.83 (+0.27) Euro: 1.23 Oil 66.13 (-1.36) Gold 437.3 Silver 6.72

Comment: India could still be sitting on loads of silver, perhaps. Some time ago, they did mention that of the 1000 tonnes they wanted to sell, 600 tonned were sold. Those could be old silver reserves.


Greenspan Says Fed Paying Attention to Asset Prices
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=aKH1TzBSgnCU&refer=home


Van Eeden:
The triple threat to real estate
http://www.paulvaneeden.com/displayArticle.php?articleId=125


A. Hamilton: Stocks and Inflation
http://www.gold-eagle.com/gold_digest_05/hamilton082605.html


Globalization's First Oil Shock
Stephen Roach (New York)
http://www.morganstanley.com/GEFdata/digests/latest-digest.html


Forest: Resources:
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=259

"Elsewhere in energy, it looks as if more and more of Australia may be opening up to uranium mining. After the federal government declared that extraction would be allowed in the nation’s Northern Territory, several politicians in Western Australia are now calling for more uranium-friendly policies in the state.

Premier Geoff Gallop has dismissed previous attempts to open discussions on uranium mining in W. Aust. But now ABC News reports that at least three MPs from his own Labor party have called for the government to look at yellowcake as a way to reduce reliance on fossil fuels. Such a move would be a boon for a number of miners currently holding uranium projects in the state".

-------------------------------

COT Gold Report
http://news.goldseek.com/COT/1125088386.php

Reference was made that the Central Banks won't be allowed to sell more gold till end of Sept: their 500 tonnes allocation was used up.

Much was made of this as this could increase gold prices. My opinion is that the "Commercial Shorts" which have been high since the Banks stopped selling gold, could remain high posibly till 1Oct.

This way, pressure remains on the gold price.


SILVER COT Report:
http://news.silverseek.com/COT/1125084834.php

K9
27-08-2005, 05:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by Geoff7
pps, give Gerry some credit he does have a good level of intellect and is certainly a decent stock poster compared to most I have seen.

Cheers.


you have your opinion, and many others have the opposite view


life goes on...and on



and on and on and on

are we at 20,000 posts yet?:D

K9
27-08-2005, 05:56 PM
...as for a stock picker...

the guy has finished in the bottom 1/4 of every comp I have ever seen here...

until he finally gave up;)

K9
27-08-2005, 05:58 PM
sry Stolli...

it is the truth though, and facts are printed facts


good luck for the op

no need to rush back to this thread

life goes on

stolwyk
27-08-2005, 07:17 PM
C9=H9=K9=NEXT? Soon?

Yes, he got kicked out twice because of his uncurable aggressive behaviour IMHO. It is getting worse.

He is absolutely set to destroy this thread.

K9 referring to me:
"the guy has finished in the bottom 1/4 of every comp I have ever seen here"

"it is the truth though, and facts are printed facts"

Answer:
http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22124

Not that competitions mean everything, IMHO.

_____________________________________


ST wants more Advertisers:
http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/default.asp

"Sponsors Wanted
ShareTrader wants you. Become a sponsor of ShareTrader and have your banner add displayed on the ShareTrader site. For more information, send an email to sponsor@sharetrader.co.nz"

Comment: Why should an Advertizer support ST while the sabotage of a very popular thread such as this is going on.

Good question, isn't it?

It could be a very useful email address for some, I think.

Gerry

easy money
27-08-2005, 07:25 PM
dear gerry...i enjoy your posts but could you please refrain from getting bogged down in idle commment with fellow posters and concentrate on the big picture..thank you.

donner
27-08-2005, 07:26 PM
Carry on Stolwyk. The Nazi's are out in force tonight.

Just trumpet SMM a bit. Puts Apple to shame. And anything K9 has ever recommended.

stolwyk
27-08-2005, 07:49 PM
EASY MONEY,

Here is something interesting:

John Williams:
Analysis Behind and Beyond Government Economic Reporting
http://www.financialsense.com/Experts/2005/Williams.html



Financial Sense Newshour:
http://www.netcastdaily.com/fsnewshour.htm

K9
27-08-2005, 08:26 PM
Donner, and your calls were???[:I]

like you missed out on ATR?

the biggest riser in Australasia in 2003/2004.
try 1000% sucker and I did note the big mouths were nowhere to be seen.

Cap got you on the run eh;)

so you come and hide under Gerrys skirt to catch your breath...and quote one of his gains??/[:I][:I][:I]


barhafarafaraahahhaaarararaaahaha[:o)]

K9
27-08-2005, 08:30 PM
how do you actually justify popular?


if YOU are sooooo popular

start your own site, put a bean counter on it

and lets see your true readership Stolli

you are a Legend in your own mind

and you don't like the truth!

a click on your crap thread here does not equal "readership"


it is called "regurge"



just taking the piss Stolli

lighten up dude

life goes on...


for some



will be at 20,000 posts one day

stolwyk
27-08-2005, 08:59 PM
C9=H9=K9-What is next?

I don't know why you insist on digging a deeper hole for yourself.

You said on 24 Aug: "with ALL your so called MASSIVE readership"

I asked you to prove that I used the word "MASSIVE". I am still waiting.

Now you say:
"if YOU are sooooo popular".

I did'nt say that. I was talking about this "popular" thread.

Take care not to twist my words.
____________________________

A few posts back, you said:
"Donner, and your calls were??? like you missed out on ATR?
the biggest riser in Australasia in 2003/2004".

Congratulations K9; however, it was'nt your call, it was Dimebag's.


Please go now. You don't normally post on this thread.

Gerry

donner
27-08-2005, 09:54 PM
Actually one call I made with relevance to this thread was SBM. I've only made 150% so far. Its funny too, in that I check in on this thread and pick up the regular contributors comments and links from time to time just to make sure that things are still bullish. That includes Stolwyk's.

Iluka is one that Winner has an interest in and that has done very well too. I have had my attention bought to it from external sources as well and think they will do quite well. However, I am more familiar with SBM so will stick with my knitting for gold exposure.

Then you get K9 coming on and crapping all over it so he can spread his hate.

I guess K9 has made nothing from gold and hence his bitterness to those that have an interest in it. That includes GB in the day, Stolwyk and now Donner.

Dimebag also recommended FLT. I advised against it. I was right.

It's not just picking the winners that matters. Avoiding the losers counts as well.

K9
28-08-2005, 10:25 AM
quote:Originally posted by stolwyk
Readership of this thread is very good, when it was started, the "Main Gold thread" had 13,000 posts; it now increased tby 12000 to over 25,000 posts.

This thread now has 18,500 posts. And as said, readership is all what matters to the Advertizer. The less informed don't want to recopgnize that.

I suggest that readers ignore flamers, liars and those with "double talk".

Gerry




:D:D:D:D:D

recover soon Stolli

K9
28-08-2005, 10:34 AM
as for massive readership!...NICE DELETE ON Page 42 Stolli

where you "double" posted after saying another had done the same and got his knickers in a knot...and I responded saying do you see the hypocrisy. Edit Delete...edit again...al the same to you is it Stolli?


GOT YA Stolli;)

and did I say "I called ATR" Stolli? I was on it with Dimey VERY early, 2nd I think after he called it to my attention...all documented...nice try tho

and as for Donner:D:D:D:D:D
try OXR dickweed

You know...back when gold WAS really hot:D:D:D:D

stolwyk
28-08-2005, 11:37 AM
C9=H9=K9 what else is next? Only you know!

1. I asked you about those words "MASSIVE readership", the first time on Aug 25. It is now Aug 28. You could'nt prove that I wrote that but hoped that I would'nt keep asking. When I did, you panicked and am referring me to page 42, where I was supposed to have deleted a word "MASSIVE" according to you.

However, two of my posts were edited. So, which one? The first one was written on on 24 Aug at 9.47 and edited at 9.52, 5 min later while the second one was written at 12.26, edited at 12.37, some 9 minutes later.

Yet, you mentioned "MASSIVE readership" some 2 hours later at 2.29 pm.
Come on, don't lie. Those words were never there in both of my posts.


Others posts would have been edited on pages 40-42. Perhaps one of those? Or was it page 25? Have another pick.


The readers won't believe you C9=H9=K9 and there is no reason, they should. In any case I would'nt use that word "MASSIVE". I use "excellent" or "very good". Examples can be found in the posts.


2. You also said this:
"if YOU are sooooo popular".

I did'nt say that. I was talking about this "popular" thread.
Take care not to twist my words.

3. You also said referring to me:
"the guy has finished in the bottom 1/4 of every comp I have ever seen here"

"it is the truth though, and facts are printed facts"

Answer:
http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22124


4. You have a serious credibility problem and it won't go away. But of course you want to keep these arguments going, hoping to destroy this thread.


Gerry

stolwyk
28-08-2005, 11:47 AM
Firms sign deals to co-develop oilfields
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-08/27/content_472682.htm


Persian Gulf states' economies blazing
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002452766_gulfboom26.html



TRANSCRIPTION OF INTERVIEW
August 27, 2005
Dan Denning,
Editor "Strategic Investment" and Author
The Bull Hunter: Tracking Today's Hottest Investments
http://www.financialsense.com/transcriptions/Denning.html



Greenspan Chides Investors
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/27/business/27greenspan.html


Killing the dollar in Iran
By Toni Straka
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GH26Dj01.html

donner
28-08-2005, 12:14 PM
OXR? Congratulations. You made money. I wish I'd bought some. If I had read your thread on it I might have done. Unfortunately, I gave up paying attention to anything you write because if it is not heavily laced with anti-Belgarion and Stolwyk hate literature it is 100% anti-Belgarion and Stolwyk literature. I suspect there are many readers of the same view. Looks like I'm going to be joining the same gang. You sure are going to be busy chasing everyone up with all your hate.

Nevertheless, you have Capitalist to help you out. I see she has a thing for guys and masturbation. You might be able to take things further with her in that regard. I'd like to say, if your'e lucky, but I don't think that applies. We know she admires your courage and bravery on display in ST.

Have a great day.

Vagina.

Oh, when did you pick OXR? SBM and Iluka have moved this year. You must be talking about 3 or 4 years ago. What have you done since then?

Labia.

K9
28-08-2005, 01:59 PM
:D:D:D:D:D

mindless and useless thread is now that


good boys

barhffarafarahahafarawaharharwhahaa

Stolli: whoa...who's that under my skirt[:0]

...why it's a smelly old meat kebab

K9
28-08-2005, 02:02 PM
"the guy has finished in the bottom 1/4 of every comp I have ever seen here"


the word is finished Stolli

you know...FINISHED

as in Past Tense

[|)]DoH

donner
28-08-2005, 02:17 PM
I can't believe you want to bask in the stale sunlight of OXR. Holding it up as if its something great.

Tell us something current, real and happening. Or, as go easy on him ploy, tell us what you have picked since OXR.

Running around yelling hate isn't going to make anyone money. At least you'll win Capitalists love though.

stolwyk
28-08-2005, 02:26 PM
Allright guys,

Readers have had ample opportunity getting to know you.

Those who don't normally contribute to this thread, please leave.

No more flaming, please.

Only posts relevant to this thread, wanted.


Gerry

Capitalist
28-08-2005, 03:29 PM
Dear God in heaven, why do I have to read a reference to me by Donner in practically every thread I open?

Live long and prosper Stolwyk.

Mick100
28-08-2005, 09:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by stolwyk

Allright guys,

Readers have had ample opportunity getting to know you.

Those who don't normally contribute to this thread, please leave.

No more flaming, please.

Only posts relevant to this thread, wanted.


Gerry



I'll second that Gerry

You lot (K9, Cap and rocking) should go back to your off topic forum now and ***** amongst yourselves there.

As for Enigma and tracker - you two have had your bit of fun now so give us all a break - go back to base camp - better still, take some long term leave

,

28-08-2005, 09:56 PM
Mick100 When Gerry desists we will and that includes his Ramping Monologues to.

stolwyk
28-08-2005, 10:43 PM
Enigma,

You have been asked to leave. We don't want any further thuggery around here. Do you understand?


Gerry
Thread originator

K9
29-08-2005, 12:26 AM
now Stolli...if you actually had the right...

ie..pay for your own site...

then maybe you'ld have some chop



Here?

You are disturbed:D

29-08-2005, 08:51 AM
Gerry You are the biggest thug arround here. You Leave. What is now nearly 6000 post of drivel.

stolwyk
29-08-2005, 11:04 AM
U.S. Michigan Sentiment Index Fell to 89.1 in August
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=a.7hO8JbmWac&refer=home


If 'Bubble' Bursts, Legacy of Greenspan May Deflate
http://www.hotcopper.com.au/post_single.asp?fid=2&tid=227027&sym=&MSGNO=118464#118464


Wedgie:
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/tanashian082705.html


An Ominous Day for Planet Wall Street
http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/murphy/2005/0828.html

Sunnis reject draft of Iraqi constitution
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-08/28/content_472866.htm

Zacca
29-08-2005, 11:05 AM
K9, Diesel, Enigma etc.whatever the reasons real or perceived of your attacks on Stolwyk I for one am tired of listening to them. They are so biased that for me they make me hold a question about the credibility of your other posts, which might be quite unfair but that's how it works. Your personal vendettas only serve to undermine your own standing in my view. If you have an issue to settle with Stolwyck then sort them offline
Personally I don't believe people in chatrooms should be more abusive than if they met that person face to face. the personal attcks on Stolwyk (and to cut you off at the pass I don't know him or am an ally of him.)have gained the momentum of a pack attack which I find unjustified and unfair. Everybody should feel free to post without bullying behaviour whether they have posted 6000 times or 6. I'm tuned to this chatroom to read people's ideas and opinions and to pick up the occasional gem of an idea, so please everyone put your emotions aside for a moment reflect that force frequently is counterproductive.

29-08-2005, 04:17 PM
Zacca How offline do you get Gerry to stop Posting Rubbish. If you believe his Rubbish posts good luck to you.

stolwyk
29-08-2005, 04:32 PM
The time is not that far away and this thread will become even more in demand.

I am referring to the worldwide deterioration of the economic situation.

Thugs, eg. Enigma who don't understand what is discussed will be by then thrown off this thread: he is already intimidating Zacca who can understand the material as others do.



Gerry

Watson
29-08-2005, 04:42 PM
mmm and here I was thinking someone had actually posted something on the thread that was relevant to "currencies,gold silver and oil"
Oh well moving right along...after all it is a forum where people express opinions not necessary about the topic....haha

29-08-2005, 05:18 PM
What material Gerry you have never produced any that is sensable in last Four Years. And Stop crying for the moderator to solve your problems. May be you expect to get appointed moderator here to so you can kick anybody off that disagrees with you.

29-08-2005, 05:26 PM
What is this Medical condition you admit to having Gerry is it meglomainia or just Alzheimer's disease.

stolwyk
29-08-2005, 07:27 PM
NEW YORK -- Crude oil futures spiked to more than $70 a barrel for the first time as Hurricane Katrina took dead aim on America's oil and refinery operations Monday, shutting down an estimated 1 million barrels of refining capacity and sharply curbing offshore production in the region.

The area targeted by Katrina is crucial to the United States' energy infrastructure _ offshore oil and gas production, import terminals, pipeline networks and numerous refining operations throughout southern Louisiana and Mississippi.

Oil companies evacuated workers and shut down more than 600,000 barrels of daily production in the Gulf. Refiners closed down more than 1 million barrels of refining output by Sunday, but that amount could be higher because not every producer reports data, said Peter Beutel, an oil analyst with Cameron Hanover.

"This is the big one," he said. "This is unmitigated, bad news for consumers."

"If this thing knocks out significant quantities of refining capacity ... we're going to be in deep, dark trouble," said Ed Silliere, vice president of risk management at Energy Merchant LLC in New York.

The market has been on edge for months, with traders and speculators buying on the slightest fear. With Katrina, all those fears could be realized, Beutel said.

Full article at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/28/AR2005082800598.html

Mick100
29-08-2005, 08:13 PM
Rocking

I'v seen a couple posters on the off topic forum show admiration towards your tid-bit posts.
One said you had wit while another, even more foolish, said he thought you were intelligent.

I have always thought that you were neither funny or intelligent. I think that you are a loser.

Earnestly
Mick


PS, go back to your off topic forum mate
,

stolwyk
29-08-2005, 09:53 PM
"And Stop crying for the moderator to solve your problems. May be you expect to get appointed moderator here to so you can kick anybody off that disagrees with you".

Comment: This chatsite is small for moderators. Some posters may also be clients of the owner.

Another reason is that I have a very good rating at the massive H/C site where there is now a much better spirit than some time ago. I certainly would'nt want to be a moderator here amongst quite a few stalkers, trouble makers and intimidators and in doing so lower my reputation.

Posters stalking on sites here where they don't have the faintest clue what is being discussed is a rare occurrence anywhere else. For your info, I never suspended people because I disagreed with them.

If you registered at H/C and tried the same standover tactics, stalking and intimidation, you would be suspended for a very long time. But you won't go there preferring the protection given to you here, I think.

miner
29-08-2005, 11:27 PM
What's that saying,Hmm that's right,"Man enough to admit you are wrong",much the same as "man enough to admit you are a ramper".some are some aren't,man enough that is.

Funny how knowing the game you play Gerry and saying so equates to " they don't have the faintest clue what is being discussed ",I mean give us some credit we DO know how to cut and paste like you,hell I just did it,the "they don't have the faintest clue what is being discussed" bit,saves typing:D;).

K9
29-08-2005, 11:38 PM
quote:Originally posted by stolwyk

Another reason is that I have a very good rating at the massive H/C site




certainly trying to make up for the pea sized brain[|)]

stolwyk
30-08-2005, 09:12 AM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Katrina Whipsaws Markets
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1125370804.php


Current: USD 88.18 Euro 1.223 Gold 436.5 Silver 6.73 Oil 67.75


Clive Young:Gold Market Update
http://news.goldseek.com/CliveMaund/1125347403.php


US Property Bubble Begins to Burst - Median Home Prices Down 15.9% in 3 Months--by Mark O'Byrne
http://www.gold.ie/gold_investments_weekly_news.htm#Commentary


Russia, China Consider Giving up Dollar in Bilateral Trade
http://www.mosnews.com/money/2005/08/29/chinacurrency.shtml

Comment: That means that dollars could flow back to the US. We also will have the flow-on effect of the coming Iranian Oil Bourse; if allowed to be established then again it is not good news for the USD.


Experts Warn Debt May Threaten Economy: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/27/AR2005082700653.html?sub=new

stolwyk
31-08-2005, 10:12 AM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Gas Surges 20% Higher
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1125438181.php

Current: USD 88.32 Euro 1.222 Oil 69.59 Gold 431.2 (-5.30) Silver 6.74


Roach: Global: Globalization's First Oil Shock, Part II
Stephen Roach (New York)
http://www.morganstanley.com/GEFdata/digests/20050829-mon.html

J Mackenzie: M2 - Farce Majeure
http://news.goldseek.com/JohnMackenzie/1125410402.php

Forest: Resources:
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=264
"The NYMEX declared Force Majeure yesterday on gas deliveries in the August contract month. The move came after Hurricane Katrina forced the shut-down of Louisiana’s Henry Hub gas processing center. On news of the supply disruption, natural gas for October delivery jumped 15%, to $11.30 per million Btu".


Gary Shilling: The Consumer-Dependent Economy
http://www.dailyreckoning.com/Issues/2005/DR083005.html


It Is Time To Be Careful
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/to082905.html


Special Report: Katrina--Areas Most Affected: Drill rigs, Pipes, ports.
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=24789


Doug Nolan: Under Mr. Greenspan’s watch -
http://www.prudentbear.com/creditbubblebulletin.asp

_________________________________________

LATEST FROM NEW ORLEANS
Posted Aug 30, 2005 08:45 AM PST
Category: CURRENT EVENTS

Apparently, there are now THREE breaks in the levee.
Mayor's comments (transcribed):

"We have 80 percent of our city underwater. In some parts of the city, the water is as deep as twenty feet.

"We have people still trapped on their roofs.

"We have an incredible amount of water in the city. Both airports are underwater."

"The twin spans in New Orleans East are destroyed. They're gone.

"We have three huge boats that have run aground. We have an oil tanker that is also run aground. And leaking oil.

"We have a serious levee break at 17th Canal. It's causing waters to continue to rise in certain sections of the city.

"We have houses that have literally been picked up off of their foundations and moved.

"The yacht club on the lake has burned and is destroyed.

"I must tell people who are driving around that if you drive on the highrise, we're not sure about the structural soundness of the high-rise, because it appears that a barge has hit one of the main structures of the high-rise.

"This is a briefing that I got from FEMA.

"All of Slidell is under water.

"We have gas leaks that have sprout out, and even when they are under water, you will see a flame shooting out of the water. It's not a pretty picture."









__________________________________

India's demand for gold does not falter
By Jon Nones
29 Aug 2005 at 03:50 PM

Gold demand in India, the world's largest consumer of the yellow metal, will remain strong this year because of higher incomes, strong festive purchases and good farm output, the World Gold Council said on Monday.

The demand, excluding recycled gold, rose 17.6% to 643 tonnes in 2004 from 547 tonnes in the previous year. It surged 72% to 243 tonnes in the first quarter of this year to March.

Incomes were rising in the country with rapid economic growth and a strong stock market performance, according to Reuters.

India's economy, Asia's third-largest, is expected to grow 7% in the fiscal year to next March, marginally faster than 6.9% growth last year.

Monsoon rains in most parts of the country had been quite good this year and India was expected to have reasonably good agricultural growth. Rural India accounts for about two-thirds of Indian gold demand.

http://www.resourceinvestor.com/pebble.asp?relid=12475

stolwyk
31-08-2005, 07:54 PM
30 August.


THE US ECONOMY: CAN SMOKE AND MIRRORS HELP?

Basically, the US is confronted by a set of negative economic parameters which are converging.

No amount of spin doctoring can change this set of damaging influences: Greenspan can't control oil prices, servicing of the heavy debt load restricts any daring policy, the housing bubble demise is starting and the influence of the USD is weakening.

1. Housing bubble and Inflation.
The Fed is hellbent to reduce the heat by raising interest rates. As it does so, the effect of oil prices is now becoming real and this increases *real* inflation still more.

Because Housing construction is such a big part of the GDP, any slowdown will immediately affect it. Unemployment will greatly increase. Imports will be less while consumption decreases.

As the economy slows, the housing bubble could turn into something nasty with rapid decline of Asset prices. As activity decreases, the Govt will have less income from taxes while its expenses may rise.

More borrowing and/or more dollar printing is needed. At this stage the Lender to the US may want a higher interest rate from treasuries. This is also needed to stop the flight of capital to overseas destinations. The USD is likely to fall.


So, there could be little room for lowering interest rates. Not a nice situation with declining value of assets.



2. The influence of the USD is slowly declining.
The Iranians have decided to start an Oil Bourse in early 2006 with oil and Gas to be traded in Euros. Given time, it could extend to other commodities. Other countries, eg Venezuela may also join.

This will undermine the USD.

The Chinese and Russians are trying to conduct their bilataral trade, using each others currencies and cutting out the USD.


Gerry

K9
31-08-2005, 09:02 PM
Are you suggesting the US will be a 3rd rate country, even behind Brazil after the BUSH term?

what is actually the result of all your scenarios?

end game? Stolli.

what affect does all this posturing actually have on ASX!!!!! stocks?

stolwyk
31-08-2005, 11:46 PM
K9,

You keep bringing up Brazil day after day after day. If you want to do that then the Off-market Forum is the place to do that, I think.

Bush has'nt even completed one year of the four, so it is very early to taunt me with it. Not a fair go, one could say. Neither it is interesting.

After all, this thread presents a moving picture which is being brought up to date.

"End Game": Bad outcome for many countries.

"what affect does all this posturing actually have on ASX!!!!! stocks?"

I think that traders being traders will just carry on but I don't believe the amount of cash on the table is increasing. I don't think that this thread here has much to do with that. After all, the DOW is not in a very good shape, is it?

Gerry

tricha
01-09-2005, 12:18 AM
Posted - 31/08/2005 : 7:54:00 PM
---Posted - 31/08/2005 : 7:54:00 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

30 August.


THE NZ ECONOMY: CAN SMOKE AND MIRRORS HELP?

Basically, the NZ is confronted by a set of negative economic parameters which are converging.
No amount of spin doctoring can change this set of damaging influences: Michael can't control oil prices, servicing of the heavy debt load restricts any daring policy, the housing bubble demise is starting and the influence of the NZ is weakening.

1. Housing bubble and Inflation.
The Govt is hellbent to reduce the heat by raising interest rates. As it does so, the effect of oil prices is now becoming real and this increases *real* inflation still more.

Because Housing construction is such a big part of the GDP, any slowdown will immediately affect it. Unemployment will greatly increase. Imports will be less while consumption decreases.

As the economy slows, the housing bubble could turn into something nasty with rapid decline of Asset prices. As activity decreases, the Govt will have less income from taxes while its expenses may rise.

More borrowing and/or more dollar printing is needed. At this stage the Lender to the NZ may want a higher interest rate from treasuries. This is also needed to stop the flight of capital to overseas destinations. The USD is likely to fall.


So, there could be little room for lowering interest rates. Not a nice situation with declining value of assets

value of assets

Just read ASB business report today, Wed.

Regards [B)][}:)]

P.S Don't keep all your eggs in the one basket

tricha
01-09-2005, 12:45 AM
Just a general warning - Not to u personally, NZ economy probably in a worse state than USA.

Spread your eggs!

P.S I know you do that Gerry, a lot of others probably need to look at it.

stolwyk
01-09-2005, 03:29 PM
Thanks Tricha.

Gold Seeker Closing Report – Gold Rebounds, Gas Rises Again
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1125525063.php

Current: USD 87.53 Euro 1.233 Gold 435.2 Silver 6.84 Oil 68.54


20 oil rigs missing in Gulf of Mexico: US Coast Guard
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050831/ts_alt_afp/usweatheroilgulfrigs_050831213642


Katrina's Impact on Energy
http://www.resourceinvestor.com/pebble.asp?relid=12545


Forest: Resources.
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=265


New XAU Bottom in the Making--By Mike Swanson
August 31, 2005
http://www.kitco.com/ind/swanson/aug312005.html


Crime Pays--by Bill Murphy, Chairman
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee
http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/murphy/2005/0831.html

K9
01-09-2005, 08:02 PM
Brazil?/ you said it Stolli...not me right. And here you are bringing up irrelevant trolled info knocking America and its economy on a daily basis on the ASX!!!!

idiotic statements like that one...I suggest you be more careful and not state shallow and throwaway lines in all seriousness...

useless, you really believe it? do you? If you do then...

you become laughing stock

you look simple, uneducated, foolish

you wouldn't want that now...would you.



BTW...the DOW? not in very good shape...Gerry it was 7200 a few years ago mate. get with the programmme.

stolwyk
01-09-2005, 08:08 PM
H9=C9=K9.

You are not contributing anything to this thread. Why don't you move to the Off-market threads where you can flame as much as you like.

I have given my opinion on the USA and Brazil and am entitled to give it regardless of your heavy handed pressure.

You just have to wait longer (Bush only completed 10 months of his 4 years). So, why can't you wait.

No need to intimidate me,


Gerry

K9
01-09-2005, 08:14 PM
Gerry, no answers AS USUAL

when the going gets tough...you cry

cry admin

cry go away

cry heavy????:(


tell me WHAT HAS THIS WHOLE THREAD GOT TO DO WITH THE ASX???


or are you just here to US bash

stolwyk
01-09-2005, 08:23 PM
C9=H9=K9,

You wrote yesterday at 9.02 pm:
"what affect does all this posturing actually have on ASX!!!!! stocks?"


Now you write:
"WHAT HAS THIS WHOLE THREAD GOT TO DO WITH THE ASX???"

Comment: Yes tell me since you referred to the ASX.


Please go away, you are not contributing: Just another flamer.

K9
01-09-2005, 08:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by stolwyk
I have given my opinion on the USA and Brazil and am entitled to give it regardless of your heavy handed pressure.

You just have to wait longer (Bush only completed 10 months of his 4 years). So, why can't you wait.

No need to intimidate me,

Gerry


And for all "readers"

Gerry has stated...

the US will be a 3rd rate country even behind Brazil after the current Bush term.



I would like to hear if others agree with this ludicrous statement!

It is ludicrous and Stolwyk has now admitted he really believes it...abate with the usual ONE DAY ROGER FINCH safety valve.

I think it is debateable NOW...why not? All Stolwyks DOOM senarios for the USA are just predictions.

I can't understand why that statement can't be debated now.


Ok...to make it easy, who AGREES with Gerrys statement on the US VS Brazil...

I am genuinely interested.

as for OFF TOPIC Gerry...get real, why do you persist on focusing your diatribe on the US on the ASX forums??? bit hypocritical don't you think.

K9
01-09-2005, 08:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by stolwyk

C9=H9=K9,

You wrote yesterday at 9.02 pm:
"what affect does all this posturing actually have on ASX!!!!! stocks?"


Now you write:
"WHAT HAS THIS WHOLE THREAD GOT TO DO WITH THE ASX???"

Comment: Yes tell me since you referred to the ASX.


Please go away, you are not contributing: Just another flamer.





more twisting and turning

NO SUBSTANCE whatsoever

stolwyk
01-09-2005, 08:46 PM
C9=H9=K9,

Please go to the Off-Market threads. You have already destroyed a couple of threads there with your flaming and aggression:

these must have been the reasons why you got kicked off twice from Sharetrader.

You can debate issues with anyone you like but as your record here is well known, I won't bother debating items with a flamer or intimidator. (I do regularly discuss on HotCopper).

Just a waste of time.

Gerry

K9
01-09-2005, 09:02 PM
:D:D:D:D


readers will decide Stolli

YOU don't have control;)

Geoff7
01-09-2005, 09:23 PM
Readers have decided K9, go away...

stolwyk
01-09-2005, 09:28 PM
C9-got kicked out, came back as H9, kicked out again, still returned as K9.

You wrote this a few posts back:

"idiotic statements like that one...I suggest you be more careful and not state shallow and throwaway lines in all seriousness...

useless, you really believe it? do you? If you do then...

you become laughing stock

you look simple, uneducated, foolish"
____________________________

Comment: this man has a history of flaming and intimidation and that is shown here once again. He has a reputation for ruining threads.

I don't find it worthwhile debating anything with this aggressive flamer; why is he still allowed to post?

K9
01-09-2005, 09:38 PM
[:I]Geoff...you represent everyone now do you...clown[:o)]


Stolwyk, the only reason you don't like me, is because I show you up for all your weaknesses...

here you are running to Admin again

Are you trying out for a moderators position?


Why don't you just stay on HC...Geoff can follow you there and forn over every post with no questions whatsoever...that's how the Aussies like it. tame, weak, unoppossed

that's how you like it eh Gerry?

easy, no opposition, run, cry, complain
as I said before, easy fixed

start your own site...and then lets take a real look at your "readership"[:I][:I]

K9
01-09-2005, 09:41 PM
quote:Originally posted by Geoff7

Readers have decided K9, go away...


BTW Geoff...you and 1 other:D

I can't see anyone here but Gerrys Aussie HC mates and himself blurting away


Actually, far more other people telling Gerry what an old goat he is.


FACT

Geoff7
01-09-2005, 09:50 PM
I would have thought in that case you would have said writes not readers.

Dont take the national high ground, 'Upper Volta".
And yes I have been to Africa, my wife is native of that continent.

stolwyk
01-09-2005, 10:02 PM
"Actually, far more other people telling Gerry what an old goat he is".

I did say you are a flamer C9=H9=K9.

Yes, aggression all over. And I believe that because he has been kicked out by Sharetrader twice now, he is looking for revenge. He does'nt care what damage he causes with his flaming.

You also said:
"BTW...the DOW? not in very good shape...Gerry it was 7200 a few years ago mate. get with the programmme".

Comment: I believe it also was more than 13,000 but lost about 3000 points since. Lucky that the FED has supported it (The US laws say that the Fed can), otherwise we could have been back at 7200 by now.

K9
01-09-2005, 10:05 PM
:D:D:D:D:D
are all Aussies thick? or just the forners that come across to ST.

"readership" is a bit of sarcasm Geoff....keep up lad

Gerry stated this thread now has 18500 posts!:D:D:D...god knows what he believes the readership to be if you are that deluded.

He will probably go to bed tonight still thinking he has nearly 20,000 posts here now.[|)][:I]


sweet dreams of gerry[:X]

Geoff7
01-09-2005, 10:22 PM
Talk about thick, give a dog a bone.
You obviously are quite a sick dog, not much else to do but chase your own tail. Getting on the nose maybe...

I cannot fathom the mind that has nothing more constructive to do than base itself on another, we call those things parasites.

Get your hand off it and get a life.

While you are at it fix your tag, doggy boy.

stolwyk
02-09-2005, 11:11 AM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Gold & Silver Surge
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1125610253.php


Current: USD 86.48 (-1.06) Euro 1.249 Gold 443.2 (+8.6) Silver: 6.97 Oil 69.63

U.S. July Personal Spending Rises 1%; Incomes Increase 0.3%
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=aR4kfisUiwRU&refer=home


Talks fail, US limits some China textile imports
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-09/01/content_474273.htm


The Gold Cartel Keeps Giving It A Licking But Gold Still Keeps On Ticking.
http://www.kitco.com/ind/grandich/sep012005.html

NOTHING SAVED FOR A RAINY DAY
by Peter Schiff
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/schiff/2005/0901.html

Damage to Economy Is Deep and Wide
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/31/business/31econ.html


Hedge Fund Falls Off the Face of the Earth
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/28/business/yourmoney/28gret.html?adxnnl=1&pagewanted=all&adxnnlx=1125328292-3Ori2Lm+LzejXvEFbbGpoA


Factories slow, consumers shop away
Thu Sep 1, 2005 11:30 AM ET
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=businessNews&storyID=2005-09-01T152959Z_01_ROB147464_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS-ECONOMY-DC.XML

K9
02-09-2005, 03:39 PM
[quote]Originally posted by stolwyk


"Actually, far more other people telling Gerry what an old goat he is".

I did say you are a flamer C9=H9=K9.

Is that not true Gerry? I am flaming for telling the truth?

You also said:
"BTW...the DOW? not in very good shape...Gerry it was 7200 a few years ago mate. get with the programmme".

Comment: I believe it also was more than 13,000 but lost about 3000 points since. Lucky that the FED has supported it (The US laws say that the Fed can), otherwise we could have been back at 7200 by now.


Here is a link for you Gerry, you silly old git. For someone who has so much respect on HC, how could you be so stupid to say the above? Maybe your dumb HC mates lap it up, no questions but you are a joke here buddy.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EDJI&t=5y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=



keep up the good laughs Gerry, we love it:D:D:D:D

La La Lalal ll LLL Labotomy[:0]

02-09-2005, 04:29 PM
Gerry does this illness of yours require a labotomy to cure it.

Zacca
02-09-2005, 08:23 PM
A short term view from the Aden sisters (week of 31st August)

Oil soared to near $70 yesterday while gasoline prices surged even more today. Oil is exceptionally strong above $63 but it's now very overbought for the first time this year (see Webextra). Oil is due for a breather but even if it declines to $60, it would still be very strong. Several of the energy stocks closed at new highs and continue to hold the ones you have. Even though oil is overbought, some of the shares have further upside potential but it may not be long lasting. Traders may want to buy new positions in DVN, NFX, IYE, BTU and ACI.

Gold fell yesterday while gold shares held firm. It looks like this setback is temporary because the C rise is still technically underway with October gold above $434. But gold will not begin to show real strength until it rises and stays above $440 and then $449. If it declines and stays below $434, it'll show renewed weakness but it'll remain bullish above $423 (see Webextra). The XAU and HUI gold share indices held above their 15 week moving averages and they've also risen back above their 65 week averages, which is bullish if they now stay above 94 and 205, respectively. Silver is worrisome because it broke below its 65 week moving average at $6.88. December silver is barely below that level now but if it doesn't rise and stay above $6.88, it'll be technically bearish and we may then recommend selling. Above $6.88 it'll be back in the bullish mode. Copper and platinum remain strong. Continue to hold your positions.

The U.S. dollar remains in an eight week downward correction and there's still plenty of room for the dollar to decline further. The dollar index is vulnerable below 88.50; it would be weak below the August 12 low at 86.90 and it could then fall to 85 as a next target. The Canadian dollar is getting a boost from higher oil and it remains the strongest. It closed at a 9 month high today as it approaches its November 26 high. A close above .8510 would be a new high and it could then rise to possibly .9000. The Canadian dollar appears to be leading the way for the other currencies and they remain firm above: 1.22 euro, 1.79 British pound, .7850 Swiss franc, .7500 Australian dollar, .9000 yen and .6900 New Zealand dollar. Keep your positions.

The record high oil price is keeping downward pressure on the stock market and it could decline further. Despite today's rise, the Dow Industrials is below its 40 week moving average and if it now stays below 10520, it'll be showing weakness and vulnerability and it could continue down to 10270 as its next target. It would be very weak below 10270. The other stock indices also remain vulnerable by staying below 2155 for Nasdaq, 3730 on the Transports and 1225 for the S&P 500. The Utilities remain the strongest, but they're overbought and due to decline as well. If you're still in the market, remain cautious and keep close stops on your positions. The world stock markets are either toppy or declining along with U.S. stocks. Continue to stand aside.

U.S. bonds are strong, rising to a two month high today. The three week rise is strong with the yields below 4.15% on the 10 year and 4.40% on the 30 year. As concerns grow that rising oil could slow the economy, the yields could fall to 3.90% on the 10 year and 4.20% on the 30 year as bond prices rise further. Bonds would show great strength if the yields decline below these levels. Keep your bonds and if you haven't bought yet, buy now.

But for the long/medium term?

stolwyk
03-09-2005, 03:45 PM
Thanks Zacca; a good read.

Gold Seeker Weekly Wrap-Up - Gold and Silver End the Week Firm
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1125697031.php


Current: Euro 1.253 USD 86.25 (-0.23) Gold 444.1 Silver 7.01 Oil 67.57


Gold May Climb to $500 an Ounce Within Six Months, GFMS Says
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aj9zGXoV6gnE&refer=us


Paul Van Eeden:
Uranium: a tale of tails
http://www.paulvaneeden.com/commentary.php

Katrina: Possibly 0.5 mill out of work
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050902/katrina_unemployment_hk3.html?.v=2

Comment:
The problem is that heavy debt loads, be it Govt or Private won't help. This is about the last thing they need.
There must be many bankruptcies in the Financial or private sector in the hit area.


Gulf Oil Operations Remain in Disarray
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/02/business/02oil.html
(Free Registration needed)

Katrina: a shock too many for economy?
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=businessNews&storyID=2005-09-01T215446Z_01_MCC178702_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS-WEATHER-KATRINA-ECONOMY-DC.XML

Mick100
03-09-2005, 04:01 PM
Could you post a link to the COT reports please Gerry

Cheers

stolwyk
03-09-2005, 04:17 PM
Sure, Mick:

COT Gold: http://news.goldseek.com/COT/1125693198.php


COT Silver: http://news.goldseek.com/COT/1125692002.php


Gerry

tracker
04-09-2005, 10:50 AM
sorry to go over this stolli
BUT my email address was
tracker86@hotmiail.com,had been for about 10 years 5 of which at HC without a prob
2 days after u became a Mod it becomes invalid
now would you like me to post all the posts backing all of this cause i can you know, and apparently thats why I was unable to post as holmail not kosher over there fir at least a few (me included, you know the ones you personally dont like etc)
which acc to certain mods rules ws invalid , you know hotmail, and all that
Yet yours is stolwyk@hotmail as per post address:

stolwyk@hotmail.com
now the only diff between you and me both having a hotmail address, is you became a mod with xray vision and powers above and beyong us mere mortals

weazel out, explain all you like

another mod told me your first mission was to see if tracker had multi knicks,
hence my post
hahahahaha which u still deleted

whats the saying a fool and his money

lets progress,

a fool and a little power!!!!!!!!!!!!

live long and prosper
tracker

04-09-2005, 11:22 AM
Tracker is stolwyk@hotmail his only email address he must have several for the multi nicks others talk about.

stolwyk
04-09-2005, 01:38 PM
This STAGE attracts actors, I wonder why.

Tracker:
"another mod told me your first mission was to see if tracker had multi knicks"

Comment: That is a nasty one, another lie; please name the moderator.
I don't think you will know any of the current moderators.
Why should I mention your name to another moderator as he would'nt know you anyway. There are many posters. you are just one of them.

"Yet yours is stolwyk@hotmail as per post address:
stolwyk@hotmail.com
Now the only diff between you and me both having a hotmail address, is you became a mod with xray vision and powers above and beyong us mere mortals"

Comment: ASIC requires posters to have a valid ISP email address. That came in well before I became a moderator.
Applications to register at H/C normally fail if say a Hotmail or Yahoo address is used.

I always have had a valid email ISP address with HCopper and that goes back to May 2001 when I registered. I also have a Hotmail address for people to use.

I assume then that HCopper asked you to supply a proper ISP address and you did so. That is the end of the matter.

No, I don't want any material from you, nor do I intend to correspond with you.

If you have a problem with HCopper, then bring it up with them. You don't receive any sympathy from me.

Why not cease to be a member of HotCopper? You don't post much there, so you won't be missed.

Why purposefully trying to ruin this thread? What brought this on, I wonder?

Gerry

Enigma,
Others don't talk about me having multi-nics but you do. Thanks for that Financial post!

Mick100
04-09-2005, 01:40 PM
Tracker, Enigma and K9
It's becoming very obvious that you people are a minority and a nuisance on this thread.

Why don't you start a Gerry bashing thread on the off-topic forum.

Gerry, I suggest you no longer respond to these people. Let them dig themselves into a hole.
They are looking increasingly stupid while persisting in this nonesence.

,

stolwyk
04-09-2005, 02:04 PM
This being a weekend with very few posters about:

Tracker posts at 10.50 and Enigma (who has email contact with her) posts 32 minutes later, at 11.22.

Now, what reason is there for this coincidence?

And why did'nt Tracker and Enigma post anywhere else at about that time?

Interesting? Yes, it is.

Gerry

tracker
04-09-2005, 02:06 PM
Mr Stolli
I did try at HC but you DELETED all of the threads and I was allowed to post there REMEMBER???????
hence referance to it all now thats all
make some money
tracker
and guess what I have absolutley NO inkling to correspond with you either (aside to wish you well)
guess we do have something in common after all

Mick the depths that cetain people trawl in order to make money at others expense is what this discussion is all about, thank goodness with market as it is, alot of the "trawling" has not been evidant
when market turns we will be able to seperate the money makers from the "david tweeds" of the world
I am not sure if you have been around long enough to see these scum bags at work

tracker

stolwyk
04-09-2005, 02:30 PM
Tracker,

Please control yourself.

You said: "did try at HC but you DELETED all of the threads and I was allowed to post there REMEMBER???????
hence referance to it all now thats all"

Comment: I only deleted 3 posts according to you, not threads. I was authorized to do so. Others had posts removed and there was no discussion at all.

You have covered the episode time and time and time and time again.

If you want to keep on acting make-believe, why not try the Off-market forum? Better still, contact HotCopper.

How long was it ago, this event happened: the middle of March, nearly six months ago! And you are still desperately trying to use it to your advantage. If you have a dictionary, look for the word: "Schemer".

Actress, the READER may well ask if there was another reason, you brought this up, once again.


Gerry

tracker
04-09-2005, 02:36 PM
yeah, and enigma, and I cross referance and time all our posts just to pee you off

lol
tracker

ps most of my posting is done at approx 4 am aussie time, when i could be bothered in the hope others make money, gives NZ readers time to do research etc etcif they choose
, not when i think enigma or even Norman might be around , lol
tracker

stolwyk
04-09-2005, 02:54 PM
Tracker,

You said:
"ps most of my posting is done at approx 4 am aussie time, when".

If you live at Perth, then the NZ time of posting would be 8 am.

But you posted at 10.50 am, NZ time, quite a lot later.

I don't believe you live in Perth. Perhaps Melbourne or Sydney?

Instead of your quoted 4 am posting today, you likely posted at 8.50 am or perhaps a bit earlier.

I can't see Enigma wanting to email you at 4 AM. But he could contact you 8.50 am or you could email him. Was it an urgent matter?


Now, please tell me why you posted here; after all, K9 is "shadowing" me already. Or are you not very keen to let me know?



Till your next tale,

Gerry

04-09-2005, 06:50 PM
Gerry you have a very selective memory Go back through the posts and you will find several that say you have multiple nicks. But No you only go back through posts when it suits you. And Gerry are you stating for a fact that Tracker Emailed me this morning. If so please give me your Residendial and Postal addresses so I can have summons for defamation served. And I have reason to believe Tracker would love it to. For same Purpose.

tricha
04-09-2005, 07:05 PM
Hi Stolwyk

Fox resources - you started the thread, do u have any views on it now.

Cheers Tricha

As far as all u dorks writing all this bullshot get a life or enter goverment or start your own thread![xx(][xx(]

stolwyk
04-09-2005, 07:15 PM
The only ones who stated that I had multinics were you and one of your mates, I believe. At that time I did think the matter was solved after an argument.

But you love to resurrect this lost cause on a thread which is strange to you.

I think READERS will be more interested in Financial posts than listening to you.


Please behave yourself. You are irrelevant on this thread unless you can participate with a financial post. But you don't understand the matters discussed, so what are you doing here.

No need to play it big:
"f so please give me your Residendial and Postal addresses so I can have summons for defamation served. And I have reason to believe Tracker would love it to. For same Purpose".

I don't need to give you my addresses; see your solicitor instead. He can look after all this.

But you know of course that people with an alias, have very few rights, but I can understand your acting.

Now, please go to some other thread where you can understand the proceedings.


Gerry

04-09-2005, 09:49 PM
Gerry My name by your request is at the bottom of every post And we are still waiting for you to prove you are Gerry Stolwyk or perhaps it is Gerhard or something like that. You are always judging others by your own standards of behavour. Emailing your mates for support etc.

stolwyk
04-09-2005, 10:21 PM
You have threatened me twice with court action. I am still waiting for the first one. Meanwhile I am sure that what I have dug up here on you wil be sufficient for me to use.

But, I am not so childish threatening someone with court action.

Meanwhile, I have a birthday certificate copy here signed by my Solicitor and I'll put it up at H/C some day when I feel like it. Your mate can retrieve it from there.

In the meantime I suggest you also get something sorted out. I don't care about that signature of yours, actually. Very strange using an Alias at the same time.

I think you should leave this thread now. Don't forget you were asked and that you are illegally on this thread.

Gerry

miner
04-09-2005, 11:50 PM
Anyone remember the good old days on ST? when we all got along,there were no blatant rampers,people posted the good and bad points of a share not a problem,we had some very good TA ,FA people and traders,everyone helped each other,there was no need for battles with each other,how times have changed.

Cheers
Miner

Mick100
05-09-2005, 12:07 AM
That must have been before I joined up miner (june 04)

stolwyk
05-09-2005, 12:23 AM
There were rampers in those days as well, Miner but who is going to check.

Hopefully, you can produce a financial post, if not then you are on the wrong thread.

Suggest, you restrain your members of your gang. They are on the rampage.

Gerry

tracker
05-09-2005, 05:13 AM
Sorry gerry I o live in australia and many of my posts are made at this time
during market hours and weekends I have better things to do, you know what one would call a life
crawl back under rock
till next time
make some money
tracker

05-09-2005, 10:08 AM
Gerry under whose law is posting here illegal. Is this your own personal law that nobody should post anything that does not support G Stolwyks point of view.

stolwyk
05-09-2005, 10:48 AM
"Gerry under whose law is posting here illegal. Is this your own personal law that nobody should post anything that does not support G Stolwyks point of view".

Enigma, you know of course that your stalking is prohibited. That is illegal. Also, you are supposed to post according to the subject. In all your entries, you have not done that once.

No doubt you are aware of these 2 items so, no need to discuss this.

"Emailing your mates for support etc".
Comment: No, I fight my own battles. There are about 6 of you just stalking me.

I would be ashamed if I were a member of that "gang of six". But yes, I can handle that.

On HCopper, all 6 of you would either be permanently banned or suspended for quite some time. Stalking, aggression and intimidation are main offences over there.

It so happens that Tracker behaves quite differently here than on HCopper. That is a fact. It does show how cunning people can be.

Obviously, if she demonstrated the same aggression on HotCopper, then this would be very seriously looked at. And that is a guarantee. (No different from any other poster in that position).

I don't know those 2 who supported me but you intimidated one of them.

And no, I have not emailed Mick100 for support either. Why not ask him.

I must carry on, stalker,


Gerry

miner
05-09-2005, 11:58 AM
quote:Originally posted by Mick100


That must have been before I joined up miner (june 04)



Hi Mick yep it was,some of us though have watched it all unfold here and on other sites hence why we speak up now and then,probably seems a bit strange at times to people that don't know the history behind it.

As for your gold stocks keep an eye on how they are hedged as with the price of oil looking like it will continue north for now a few may end up on the wrong side of the hedge so to speak.

Cheers
Miner

stolwyk
05-09-2005, 03:31 PM
Euro 1.257 Gold 445.2 Silver 7.04


Time to Call an Audible
John Mauldin
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/mauldin090305.html



http://www.netcastdaily.com/fsnewshour.htm
Frank Barbera is good value IMHO.


Global: The Endogenous Oil Shock
Stephen Roach (New York)
http://www.morganstanley.com/GEFdata/digests/latest-digest.html


Why Are Investment Markets Stalling?
by Marc Faber, Ph.D.
http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/faber/2005/0902.html


Dollar Drops to 3-Month Low; Fed May Pause on Rate Increases
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=amS1SYcrky_k&refer=top_world_news

05-09-2005, 04:40 PM
Gerry With you as moderator on hot copper nobody could post anything you did not like. Only a gang of six Gerry there are at least ten and none are connected to the best of my knowledge. You are still judging others by your own way of doing things.

stolwyk
05-09-2005, 05:21 PM
I had a very good rating on HCopper-not that you want to hear that-
but there are certain rules which HCopper prescribes and the Moderator applies these.

Here at ST, there are also rules, but people like you just ignore these. All 6 of you.

I think the time has come for you either to leave this thread or contribute financial posts.

Everybody knows you can't do the latter so there is really no reason why you should still be on this thread.

Yes, I am well aware that you are trying to destroy this thread, but no success here, I am afraid.

I already have reminded you a couple of times previously that you ought to post on another thread instead, so I think you ought to follow my advice.

Gerry

05-09-2005, 06:13 PM
Gerry When you start making decent Financial post Instead of cutting and pasting or drivelling I might think about it but I know it will never happen you are incapable of any rational thought. Yes and your rating on hot copper was only from your own Cronies. Why did you leave or did they finally kick you off. So you had spend more of your time here.

Zacca
05-09-2005, 08:12 PM
Dear Enigma and others
I suggest to you that I will decide what is useful on this thread. I do not want others forcing their views of how a thread should be conducted. Plenty of other posters use cut and paste as you call it it's a way of accuratly recording a viewpoint or information. I repeat I do not want other people deciding by heavy handed tactics what I should read or not, that smacks of censorship.
Personally I do not understand the ferocity of some of these postings. I see Stolwyck's posts as a form of shorthand a pointer to information which you can ignore or follow, a bibliographic approach. Would you suggest that books don't have a bibliography? That people shouldn't text? That secretarys shouldn't use shorthand?
Whether it's cut or paste, an opinion of a share, a discussion on a topic all are useful aspects of forming an opinion. Allow people the space to do this if they are not interfering with others.
Finally I would like to get to the quick of people's opinions on the subject of this thread as I believe it might be quite crucial to have some clarity in the years ahead around this topic.

stolwyk
05-09-2005, 08:34 PM
Sharetrader decides what is allowed or not. I have sofar not received any complaint from them.

These 6 have appointed themselves as moderators, they have no mandate and think that they don't have to obey the ST rules.

I do offer short comment at times but once a week, I write a longer opinion, example:


30 August.

THE US ECONOMY: CAN SMOKE AND MIRRORS HELP?

Basically, the US is confronted by a set of negative economic parameters which are converging.

No amount of spin doctoring can change this set of damaging influences: Greenspan can't control oil prices, while servicing of the heavy debt load restricts any daring policy, the housing bubble demise is starting and the influence of the USD is weakening.

1. Housing bubble and Inflation.
The Fed is hellbent to reduce the heat by raising interest rates. As it does so, the effect of oil prices is now becoming real and this increases *real* inflation still more.

Because Housing construction is such a big part of the GDP, any slowdown will immediately affect it. Unemployment will greatly increase. Imports will be less while consumption decreases.

As the economy slows, the housing bubble could turn into something nasty with rapid decline of Asset prices. As activity decreases, The Govt will have less income from taxes while its expenses may rise.

More borrowing and/or more dollar printing is needed. At this stage the Lender to the US may want a higher interest rate from treasuries. This is also needed to stop the flight of capital to overseas destinations. The USD is likely to fall.


So, there could be little room for lowering interest rates. Not a nice situation with declining value of assets.



2. The influence of the USD is slowly declining.
The Iranians have decided to start an Oil Bourse in early 2006 with oil and Gas to be traded in Euros. Given time, it could extend to other commodities. Other countries, eg Venezuela may also join.

This will undermine the USD.

The Chinese and Russians are trying to conduct their bilataral trade, using each others currencies and cutting out the USD.


Gerry

__________________________________

I don't intend to change this format and have little time to discuss matters here as I post on H/Copper as well.

People who don't want to post according to the subject or engage in flaming, should look for another thread instead, I think.

Gerry

05-09-2005, 09:22 PM
Gerry this is a democracy is it not. One, you says you are an extremely valuable poster. By your own count (which I say is a major underestimation) six say you are a useless Twit that posts all the drivel you can find or dream up. Go back to Hot Copper where you say you were appreciated or as I suspect they finally kicked you out.

MPC
06-09-2005, 09:02 AM
Seven.

miner
06-09-2005, 11:19 AM
Not to mention the special forces branch[:0](deep cover agents;)) and then there are the sleeper cells[|)]:D.

stolwyk
06-09-2005, 11:54 AM
THe US wil be trading tonight.

Current: USD 86.15 Euro 1.251, Gold 444.8 Silver 7.04 Oil 66.35


Dave Forest-Resources:
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=270


''Economic Brief: China's Energy Acquisitions''
http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_report&report_id=359


Betting After the Race: That's Good, Right?
Sid Klein
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/klein082805.html


Overseas investment almost doubles
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-09/05/content_475140.htm

Baa_Baa
06-09-2005, 03:05 PM
At risk of being on topic; maybe someone might like to profer a hypothesis on why the Gold COT action has reversed in terms of price action. Some here may have observed that a substantial build up in short contracts is usually followed by a serious whack down in the metal futures contract pricess. Last week's situation reversed with the COT short position dropping by ~20% but the USPOG went up.

C'mon back. Original answers preferred. ;)
BAA

Mick100
06-09-2005, 03:20 PM
Looks like normal behaviour to me Baa
Commercial traders reduce short positions - price of gold goes up
Commercial traders increase short positions - price of gold goes down

How do you read it?

,

diesel
06-09-2005, 03:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by Baa_Baa

At risk of being on topic; maybe someone might like to profer a hypothesis on why the Gold COT action has reversed in terms of price action. Some here may have observed that a substantial build up in short contracts is usually followed by a serious whack down in the metal futures contract pricess. Last week's situation reversed with the COT short position dropping by ~20% but the USPOG went up.

C'mon back. Original answers preferred. ;)
BAA


The COT report you mention is dated 30 August 2005. As of that date gold had dropped from $440 to $430 as per the chart below.

http://show.imagehosting.us/show/639192/0/nouser_639/T0_-1_639192.gif

I would imagine the next COT will show an increase again in the commercial short position with the recent run up in price.

stolwyk
06-09-2005, 03:29 PM
The importance of COT data was brought up some time ago, hence it is posted here. Yes, concur with Mick

Baa_Baa
06-09-2005, 03:34 PM
Do we get a prize for discussing Gold?

I think Diesel is probably onto it. ;) The price fell into 31/8 which was after the last COT data on my chart; only then did the USPOG bolted upwards. USD collapsed thru support at the same time too. I'm wondering if there's some other nuances though, like shifting funds from Gold into Silver for example, propping one up for the sake of the other. [?]

Cheers
BAA

Baa_Baa
06-09-2005, 03:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by stolwyk

The importance of COT data was brought up some time ago, hence it is posted here. Yes, concur with Mick


Explain please for the benefit of all; how a trader increases a Gold short position and why that neccessarily reflects in a falling gold price; and viceversa.

TIA
BAA

stolwyk
06-09-2005, 03:50 PM
Yes, please do so.

I am taking my dogs out.

Gerry

Mick100
06-09-2005, 04:01 PM
quote:[i]

Explain please for the benefit of all; how a trader increases a Gold short position and why that neccessarily reflects in a falling gold price; and viceversa.

TIA
BAA


Don't ask me why it works like that Baa but that is exactly what happens.
I'm surprised you havn't observed this correlation yourself.

,

stolwyk
07-09-2005, 10:52 AM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Major Indices Gain Over 1%
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1126042762.php

Current: Euro 1.246 USD 86.54 (+0.37) Oil 65.61 (-0.35) Gold 444.2 Silver 7.02

Fed May Raise Rates Even After Hurricane Katrina: John M. Berry
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000039&refer=columnist_berry&sid=ao.2LkC_HCqQ


THE SPROTT REPORT (FED manipulation)-41 pages
http://www.sprott.com/pdf/pressrelease/TheVisibleHand.pdf

United States: Petro-Cuts
Stephen Roach (New York)
http://www.morganstanley.com/GEFdata/digests/latest-digest.html


Bob Chapman, The International Forecaster
International Forecaster September, 2005 (#1) - Gold, Silver, Economy + More
http://news.goldseek.com/InternationalForecaster/1126018849.php

FOREST: RESOURCES
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=271

Zacca
08-09-2005, 08:54 AM
I think this atricle is worth copying in full. It is interesting to see what areas are weakest in gold sales as against which are strongest in growth.

Nothing seems to stop gold demand growth
By: Rhona O'Connell
Posted: '07-SEP-05 16:40' GMT © Mineweb 1997-2004



LONDON (Mineweb.com) --The World Gold Council has released its second-quarter (and therefore also the first-half) figures for gold demand. The numbers, independently compiled for WGC by GFMS Ltd., show a 21% increase in tonnage terms and a 29% increase in dollar terms over the first half of 2004. And demand was strong enough to absorb a 14% increase in total supply easily despite a 9% increase in the gold price to a pm fixing average of $417.39; the picture is of a vibrant market indeed.

To put some numbers behind this; the total for the quarter was 949 tonnes, of which jewellery was 728 tonnes. Identifiable investment reached 110 tonnes. Industrial and dental demand rose by 40% to 111 tonnes. Supplies from mine, scrap and the official sector amounted to 895 tonnes during the quarter.

The second quarter of 2005 was the sixth consecutive quarter of positive year-on-year growth and, probably more significantly, the third consecutive quarter of double digit growth. Seen in their most positive light, the figures show that the twelve months to end-June this year registered record expenditure on jewellery in US dollar terms, at $38 billion, and beating the previous high of 1997.

The outlook suggests that while many factors supporting the upward demand trend remain in place, the growth in the first half of this year has been so strong that it is possible that the pace will be moderated in the second half. What is particularly encouraging, though, is that reports from the regions where consumers are normally deterred by price volatility [Indian sub-Continent, Middle and Far East] have not yet been greatly deterred by the rise in price that started in late July.

Jewellery offtake in the first half of the year was up on the first half of 2004 by 17% in tonnage terms and 24% in dollar terms, largely due to a favourable economic backdrop in key markets, continued consumer confidence in higher gold prices and good results from effective promotional activity dating back to 2003. In China the substitution from platinum into white gold has helped, as it has to a degree in Europe and the US, largely as a result of high platinum prices although this is not a new development.

In terms of growth rates, investment is the star of the show, with tonnage up by 20% in the second quarter and by 66% for the first half as a whole. At the retail level, net investment was up by 36% in tonnage terms and 45% in dollar terms. Most retail investment categories showed strong growth, with double-digit advances for bar hoarding and the purchases of medal and individual coins. This was driven particularly by India, with support from Turkey and Vietnam.

The Exchange Traded Funds paused for breath during Q2, with total gold invested in the products declining very slightly as redemptions in the less liquid funds marginally outstripped the new creations in StreetTRACKS, the market leader. However, an additional 19 tonnes of new creations in Street Tracks Gold shares during July and August has already more than compensated for the overall decline in the second quarter, putting the sector as a whole back on the growth track.

Welcome resurgence in jewellery

Until two years ago jewellery demand in all markets (Turkey apart) was either stagnant or in decline and Jim Burton, the Council’s CEO, commented: “It is imperative that we not only maintain, but increase our promotional efforts if gold jewellery is either to retain or grow its share of consumer spending”. It is noticeable, though, that in the key areas where the Council has been concentrating its promotional campaigns, growth in gold offtake has been stronger than in the majority of other areas.

The figures bear out the anecdotal evidence that has been coming through from gold dealers over the course of th

Baa_Baa
08-09-2005, 05:38 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mick100


quote:[i]

Explain please for the benefit of all; how a trader increases a Gold short position and why that neccessarily reflects in a falling gold price; and viceversa.

TIA
BAA


Don't ask me why it works like that Baa but that is exactly what happens.
I'm surprised you havn't observed this correlation yourself.

,


I have noticed and was simply enquiring from you who suggested the correlation and Stolwyk who agreed with you whether (either of) you could explain it. That's all.
Cheers
BAA
:)

Mick100
08-09-2005, 09:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by Baa_Baa


quote:Originally posted by Mick100


quote:[i]

Explain please for the benefit of all; how a trader increases a Gold short position and why that neccessarily reflects in a falling gold price; and viceversa.

TIA
BAA


Don't ask me why it works like that Baa but that is exactly what happens.
I'm surprised you havn't observed this correlation yourself.

,


I have noticed and was simply enquiring from you who suggested the correlation and Stolwyk who agreed with you whether (either of) you could explain it. That's all.
Cheers
BAA
:)


Because of the huge amounts of ozs traded in
the paper market (futures, options etc) they have more influence on the price of metals than the supply and demand of the metals themselves
This is certainly true as far as silver is concerned

,

stolwyk
09-09-2005, 12:35 AM
Correct Mick.

There comes a time when infuential commercial shorters think that at a certain lower Gold price, the risk of holding becomes too high and they need to cover their shorts.

The Gold Seeker Closing Report is shown daily on this site:

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1125525063.php

The dollar fell from 88.32 to 87.53 on 31 Aug, US time.

Extract:
“The gold, silver and platinum markets recovered off the lows in the wake of a significant reversal in the US Dollar. Apparently a reversal in the direction of oil prices revived speculative interest in the precious metals and that was a change of pace"....

Comment: What I am suggesting is that Posters read these reports rather than asking me for any reason why gold recovered.

I am quite busy and hence I prefer not to spend any time looking for historical information which is available to posters.

Gerry

stolwyk
09-09-2005, 01:26 PM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Gold Gains A Sixth Straight Session
http://stocknessmonster.com/news-item?S=BDG&E=ASX&N=241857


Current: Euro 1.238 USD 87.04 Gold 446.0 Silver: 6.94 Oil 64.82


IEA chief warns of worldwide energy crisis
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-09-03T142124Z_01_MOL351670_RTRUKOC_0_UK-ENERGY-IEA-CRISIS.xml


Ted Butler: Silver:
http://www.investmentrarities.com/weeklycommentary.html


Katrina economic effect 'significant but not overwhelming'
http://www.cbc.ca/story/business/national/2005/09/07/katrina_budget20050907.html


Peter Schiff: The Real Lesson from Katrina
http://news.goldseek.com/EuroCapital/1126207658.php


U.S. Second-Quarter Productivity Rises at a 1.8% Annual Rate
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=alZSe9dhAoSM&refer=home

stolwyk
10-09-2005, 12:05 PM
Gold Seeker Weekly Wrap-Up - Gold Makes A New 9 Month High
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1126303118.php


Current: USD 86.89 Oil 64.08 Euro 1.239 Gold 448.8 Silver 7.00
Comment: Gold is "ignoring" the Euro.

Note: The question is if Gold can jump the $450-$452 barrier. We had problems here before. There is a feeling that the Gold Kartel will make this difficult. It needs consistent high demand to break this resistance IMHO. At the moment, the "troups are amasssing" before the $450 gate. The Indian buying season will start shortly.

COT GOLD AND SILVER REPORTS
GOLD:
http://news.goldseek.com/COT/1126298451.php

SILVER:
http://news.silverseek.com/COT/1126294866.php

THE GOLD FORECASTER
http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/phillips/2005/0909.html

Russia: Massive oil pipe lines to come:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-01/01/content_405266.htm

Putin: oil pipeline will serve China first
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-09/08/content_476125.htm

U.S. August Import Prices Rise 1.3%; Unchanged Excluding Oil
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aZ9ZT2j0saPU&refer=us

Inflation Raising its Ugly Head
http://news.goldseek.com/SFG/1126274409.php
NB: This is understated real inflation.

stolwyk
11-09-2005, 09:29 AM
+ + ATTACKING GREENSPAN'S FORTRESS + +

G. Stolwyk

The troops are amassing in front of the heavy fortified gate ready to attack the fortress.

Last time they managed to break the $450 price barrier but were beaten back by the Gold Kartel.

A number of assaults were launched but although some were better executed than others, too many arrows and hot oil rained down from the ramparts.

One attacker swore that he saw Greenspan from above p'ing on the troops and this humiliated them.

Bernanke, one of the defenders kept throwing very small gold coins down at the soldiers and this sapped their willpower.

Instead of fighting, they fell over each other trying to grab the coins. Their commanders joined in and in the end, the defenders drove them back.

This time it could be different. Troops were trained to ignore Bernanke and concentrate on the attack. Some were Indians who were interested in the golden treasure, the fortress was reputed to hold. They needed some badly as the wedding season was about to start and this required a lot of gold.

Some of the attack chariots carried large mirrors which were mounted and could be angled. Also, a lot of smoke could be produced as well so the attackers could'nt be seen. (Smoke and mirrors were first used here).

They also had a couple of heavy contraptions which enabled them to fire steel balls with the imprint of Greenspan, at the Fortress.

So, why this decisive action?
The owner of the fortress, Greenspan, for whom they worked, had promised gold for services rendered but instead, he paid them with steel coins. Later on, he pressed too many steel coins and inflation took over.

These coins became valueless and that affected the the locals who had stacks of these hidden in their huts.

They got together and appointed one of them, Bill Murphy from a town called GATA, to become the new nobleman to replace Greenspan. Murphy carried a golden shield and was no friend of Greenspan.

This time there were some hardened commanders and Sprott, Embry, Puplava, Barbera and Casey knew what to expect. They also had some beautiful women who could perhaps be used as decoys.

So, they were ready to go: the first salvos of steel balls landed neatly inside the fortress and hit a small building, called the FED, where the steel coins were made. The air pressure threw Bernanke through the window.

Questions:
Did Murphy and his troops crash through the gate?

Did the Gold Kartel beat them back when the Gold price rose to $455?

Did they manage to dethrone Greenspan when the Gold price went to $470?

And did they put the golden mantle around nobleman Murphy when installed as the King of Wonderland when the price of Gold went to $485?

rocket science fiction
11-09-2005, 10:14 AM
warrior trader -
or worrier trader?:D

stolwyk
12-09-2005, 09:05 AM
THE PLUNGE PROTECTION TEAM (PPT) About 40 pages.
MOVE OVER, ADAM SMITH:
The Visible Hand of Uncle Sam
http://www.sprott.com/pdf/pressrelease/TheVisibleHand.pdf


The Great Resource Bull Markets, Then and Now
Doug Casey
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=276

Financial sense newshour:
http://www.netcastdaily.com/fsnewshour.htm
____________________________________

WORLD GOLD COUNCIL: http://www.gold.org/

SUPPLY AND DEMAND (Tonnes)

To read the Exel tables, one needs to register, otherwise these tables can't be sighted:

IN TONNES: WORLD GOLD SUPPLY AND DEMAND SUMMARY TABLES FOR 2002-04

AND THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS OF 2005:

My summary: The Supply from all sources in the first 2 combined quarters of 2005 was $1943 tonnes while the demand was 1997 tonnes, leaving a supply deficit of 54 tonnes.

However, Official sources are allowed to supply 500 tonnes per year only or 250 tonnes per 6 months. They supplied 405 tonnes already for the 6 months.

So, strictly speaking, the Gold Supply deficit for the 6 months was: 54 tonnes + (405-250 tonnes)= 209 tonnes.

The hedging was 428 tonnes in 2004. This decreases the supply by that amount. In 2005, that decrease may only be some 200 tonnes or less. So, for the 6 months, the supply decrease from hedging was some 107 tonnes instead of the expected 428/2=214 tonnes.

Net Retail Investment demand was 342 tonnes for the whole of 2004 and 230 tonnes for the first 6 months in 2005. I am expecting a 49% increase for 2005 or total investment demand of 510 tonnes in 2005. Much depends on the pickup in Demand. This number could be conservative.

Subject to audit.

Gerry
Readers, please do your own research and you decide if and when to buy, hold or sell any stocks.
____________________________________

Gold Supply and Demand – Q2 2005 and first half year
http://www.gold.org/value/stats/statistics/gold_demand/index.html

stolwyk
13-09-2005, 01:15 PM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Busy Economic Week Ahead
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1126561296.php


CURRENT: USD 87.53 Euro 1.227 Gold 448.3 silver 6.98 Oil 63.31


"The Chinese Miracle Will End Soon" (Very good read):
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518,345694,00.html


Fed Focus-Paul McCulley | September 2005
Pyrrhic Victory
http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/Late+Breaking+Commentary/FF/2005/FF+September+2005.htm


Casey: Foundations of Crisis
http://www.caseyresearch.com/pra1.php?id=13&ppref=XLB001ES050909


Record demand for precious metals expected to continue through to year-end, according to Scotiabank report
http://finance.canada.com/bin/story?StoryId=CqYt9qaDkmJu1yZa0mJq&Topic=Canada_NewsWire&Type=&Heading=News%20from%20Canada%20NewsWire&BC=Canada%20NewsWire


China/Japanese energy struggle:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/09/11/MNGDGELU7M1.DTL

stolwyk
14-09-2005, 01:10 PM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – The Twin Deficits
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1126647568.php

CURRENT: USD 87.53 EURO 1.228 GOLD 446.5 SILVER 6.95 OIL 63.20


THE TIME HAS FOUND US--by Gary Robertson, CFP
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2005/0913.html


The Modernization of the Chinese Navy
http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_report&report_id=364&language_id=1


Mideast firms putting oil money into emerging markets
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=reutersEdge&storyID=2005-09-12T145656Z_01_EIC253748_RTRIDST_0_PICKS-OIL-INVESTMENT-DC.XML


Paul Walker, chief executive GFMS
http://www.mineweb.net/radio/classic_mining/485362.htm


China's Aug. Retail Sales Rise 12.5% as Incomes Climb (Update6)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000080&sid=a8.R4ajrzjpo&refer=asia

China Exports Up 32% in August
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/13/business/13trade.html

stolwyk
15-09-2005, 09:58 AM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Metal Equities Join Gold at New 9 Month Highs
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1126733838.php

CURRENT: USD 87.46 Euro 1.228 Gold 449.8 Silver 7.00 Oil 65.20

Retail sales plunge 2.1% in August
Biggest drop in 4 years; auto sales tumble record 12%
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BE2D5F2BC%2DE871%2D48BB%2DB513%2D 6009DB1E5E2A%7D&siteid=bigcharts


THE FED'S WILD IMAGINATION
by Kurt Richebächer
http://news.goldseek.com/DailyReckoning/1126729696.php

The Daily Resource
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=282

Interview with Ted Butler
http://news.silverseek.com/TedButler/1126681836.php

Barbera:
US martket: DOWNSIDE REVERSAL - DEAD AHEAD
http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/barbera/2005/0913.html


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000086&sid=aV31vI6L6pew&refer=latin_america
TEXT:
Argentina's Basco Says Central Bank May Increase Gold Reserves
Sept. 14 (Bloomberg) -- Argentina's central bank may increase its gold reserves as a hedge against inflation and to protect it against financial crises, said Juan Ignacio Basco, the bank's head of market operations.

``We don't rule out increasing our gold holdings in the future, which would depend on the economic environment,'' said Basco, in an interview during a conference in London today. ``Gold is recovering its role as an asset protecting the portfolio against inflation and international financial crises.''

Argentina's central bank sold almost all its gold in 1997 because other assets offered higher returns, Basco said. The bank today holds 3 percent of its reserves in gold, down from 19 percent in 1991, he added.

stolwyk
16-09-2005, 10:53 AM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Gold & Silver Surge
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1126816570.php

CURRENT: USD 87.9 (+0.44) Euro 1.223 Gold 455.2 (+5.4) Silver 7.05 Oil 64.45 (-0.3)

Note that the USD and Gold both rose. I think that to get a consistent break-away from all major currencies, a gold price of about $470-$490 is needed.


Futures: Gold taps nine-month high above $459
Mining indexes mirror move, at highest since December
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/yhoo/story.asp?source=blq/yhoo&siteid=yhoo&dist=yhoo&guid=%7B04C5B971%2D0E21%2D4EA9%2DB71C%2DCAF6ED3783 40%7D


Daily Resources
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=284

Jobless claims, energy prices rise in latest reports
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/inflation/2005-09-15-jobless-cpi_x.htm?POE=MONISVA


N.Y. Fed Empire manufacturing index falls in Sept
http://today.reuters.com/investing/financeArticle.aspx?type=bondsNews&storyID=2005-09-15T123017Z_01_N15552814_RTRIDST_0_ECONOMY-NYFED-EMPIRE-URGENT.XML


The Economist:
Pump panic, gold glee, Sep 13th 2005
http://www.economist.com/agenda/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4398821

Extract: "Alan Greenspan has achieved the remarkable feat of suspending disbelief in America’s gerrymandered finances for the past few years. On his departure, watch the gold price soar".

stolwyk
17-09-2005, 01:02 PM
Gold Seeker Weekly Wrap-Up - Gold Makes A New 17 Year High
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1126903979.php

CURRENT: USD 87.81 Euro 1.223 Gold 459.2 (+4.3) Silver 7.20 Oil 63.0 (-1.3)

Dec Gold hits $463 as mining stocks rally
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?column=Metals+Stocks&siteid=mktw&dist=

COT Gold Report:
http://news.goldseek.com/COT/1126899308.php

COT Silver Report:
http://news.silverseek.com/COT/1126899395.php

Resources:
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=286

Global: Stagflation Reloaded--Joachim Fels
http://www.morganstanley.com/GEFdata/digests/20050914-wed.html

Bush: Gulf Coast to be rebuilt
President says New Orleans 'will rise again'
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B1BDBB377%2DE19A%2D48CC%2DAB18%2D 7D5DA28C07BE%7D&siteid=mktw&dist=


I don't normally present a broker's research report but feel that the following embraces the US sector well:
Metals & Mining--John H Hill, CFA
https://www.citigroupgeo.com/pdf/SBD72318.pdf

stolwyk
18-09-2005, 10:11 AM
THE US: WHAT IS PROPELLING THE GOLD PRICE?

PRIOR TO KATRINA

There were signs that the real economy was slowing down. Sure, the GDP, CPI and other data looked good but these were virtually worthless because of manipulation.

John Williams, who does his own statistics, suggested that a 3% GDP growth became NIL real growth. And that was before the strong surge in oil prices.

There was evidence that the US population was starting to understand this; it was reinforced by much higher oil prices and yet, the inflation data showed the effect to be minimal.

There was little doubt that higher oil prices were the initial cause of the the economy starting to slow down and that the underestimated Inflation was going to increase within a short time. This could be good for Gold.

Greenspan did'nt want a slowing down as consumption was a high 70% of GDP and house construction was another 18%. If any or both were hit, then the GDP would be cut back and a recession, if not a depression could result. Wallmart and other retail outlets started to show the first signs of a cutback in consumption.

Both Current Account and Budget deficits were at high levels (The first one running at about 6.5% this year) and Greenspan is expecting larger Current Account Deficits to come. It is assumed that there would be a negative effect on the USD. This is good for Gold.

There were also a number of other negative factors, one was the trade friction between the US and China, others were a bad situation in Iraq, US fatalities as well as the high expenditure connected with this war, sabotage and geopolitical factors, the effect of outsourcing, debt levels, all factors sapping the confidence of the US population.

The powerful Hedge Funds were looking at new avenues for investment since a further increase in the USD was not expected, neither could they ascertain that the USD would significantly fall within a short time. Furthermore, heavy losses were made on the GM- and the US 10 year Bonds and the behaviour of Bonds was somewhat unpredictable.

So, there was a lot of spare capacity and they started to move into Gold: they sensed that the combination of negative US economic factors would result in much higher inflation which was Gold positive. (A few years ago, the influence of Hedge funds on Gold prices was not that great).




THE KATRINA EFFECT.
This further lowered the confidence of the population and the IBD/TIPP Economic Optimism Index dropped 9.7 points to 41.2 while the Michigan Consumer Centiment Index fell from 89.1 to 76.9, the latter three times the rate of fall suggested by a panel. Both numbers would have shaken the FED.

Inflation arising from Katrina will increase due to price rises of materials used to rebuild New Orleans and dikes. The US Govt will foot most of the New Orleans bill and the Deficit will increase in the next few years. It is doubtful if taxation will be raised. Any increase in Deficit spending is inflationary and is good for Gold.

The question is, will the FED increase interest rates? If it does'nt then Inflation could run away. If it does, then consumption will decrease and the housing bubble may be deflated too quickly; there will be economic damage.

In any case, a 0.25% interest rate rise is not enough to hold back inflation even if the oil price drops to $60, I think. Whatever the FED does, the outcome will be good for Gold IMHO.

Once an economy slows down to a certain level, then confidence levels fall and it won't be too difficult to increase deterioration in the right circumstances while maintaining a higher inflation rate. Stagflation is on the horizon with a Govt and population hamstrung by high debt levels.

Should the FED decide to print a massive amount of dollars to prevent this from happening, then inflation will increase further. I don't believe that the USD will be much higher than it is now and could go lower.

However, at some much later stage it may be necessary to increase Interest rates to prevent dollars from leaving the country and that would be bad for

lewinsky
19-09-2005, 08:46 AM
This is an interesting read. Gold up again over the weekend.
I am into SBM, and looking at other gold stocks. Is LHR worth a look?
Any others?
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16627389%255E643,00.html

stolwyk
19-09-2005, 10:44 AM
Thanks Lewinsky.

Conrad: Foreigners Losing Appetite for Treasuries
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=287

REALITY BITES!
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/saxena091605.html

GOLD OR THE GOVERNMENT-Which do you believe?
P. Schiff:
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/schiff/2005/0916.html

K. Richebacher: THE FED'S WILD IMAGINATION
http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/daily/2005/0916b.html

Financial Sense newshour:
http://www.netcastdaily.com/fsnewshour.htm

Low Inflation Is in the Money--The Fed should take a breather.
http://www.nationalreview.com/kudlow/kudlow.asp

stolwyk
21-09-2005, 12:55 PM
WHY DID THE FED RAISE INTEREST RATES?

We do know that the official total Inflation data is grossly under reported and I am not referring to core inflation.

History will have a problem with comparing inflation data because it has been false for a number of years.

The FED also said that Inflation is low; so you would'nt expect a rise in interest rates.

I believe that the FED keeps 2 lists, one with the *true* inflation and one of Inflation according to Greenspan.

And it is clear that even he got frightened by the *true* Inflation data and had to keep on raising interest rates.

I did mention previously, that these 0.25% rises won't catch the much faster Inflation rate rises, so he is fishing behind the net.

He should have started with these "measured" increases in Interest rates much sooner.

However, an extra 0.25% wil hit the massive housing borrowing sector and this will get worse as Interest rates will rise more.

So, how will this affect Gold?
First, Gold will answer to the Demand / Supply equation which has been fully discussed on many occasions.

Oil is'nt really coming down that much for various reasons so Inflation is to continue which is good for Gold. And so are the Deficits and any financial and political bungling by the US Govt. Other reasons have been fully discussed as well.

I mentioned that any attempt to hurt the consumption and housing sectors which are some 88% of GDP, by increasing taxation, will drive the US into a recession and because of astronomical Govt and Private debt, most likely into something far worse.

The FED should by now have issued a verdict for an Interest rate of some 6.% -instead of the current overnight rate of 3.75% - to slow down Inflation, but if they did that, the damage to the Economy would be too great because of these ridiculous Consumption numbers, massive Debt loads and no Savings
It is expected that the latter will become strongly negative and will get worse for some time to come.

It is made far worse because export of Goods is only 8% of GDP (Germany 30%+), while Manufacturing output is low.

Summarizing, the outlook for Gold remains good. Interest rate rises are well below the rate of Inflation and all debt is increasing strongly. The Geopolitical factors are getting worse also.

The Govt is merely delaying an unsatisfactory outcome, hoping that spin will do its work. However, more and more people believe that smoke and mirrors are now of little use and that this pumped up "Good Feel" factor is in fact a mirage or illusion.

Gerry

stolwyk
22-09-2005, 11:29 AM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – The XAU is 1% from 8 Year Highs; Gold Hits Fresh 17 year Highs
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1127335261.php


CURRENT: Euro 1.222 USD 87.88 (-0.49) Oil 67.47 (+0.67) Gold 472.2 Silver 7.41
Note that previously Gold rose past 470, corrected to 464 and climbed last night to 472. USD/GOLD: Fears about the RITA Cyclone (Cat 5).

Dollar Weakens on Concern About Damage From Hurricane Rita
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=aJJm6s2VMSbo&refer=top_world_news


Global: Timing the Rebalancing Call-Stephen Roach (New York)
http://www.morganstanley.com/GEFdata/digests/20050919-mon.html

Butler: Only the Beginning
http://news.silverseek.com/TedButler/1127320591.php

Why Junior Resource Stocks Are Ready To Soar
By: Dr. Richard S. Appel, Financial Insights
http://news.goldseek.com/FinancialInsights/1127324999.php


Willie:
GOLD IN 3-PART HARMONY !!!
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/willie092005.html

________________________________________

Why people are NOT having kids anymore
By Richard Daughty
"The Mogambo Guru"

September 21, 2005
http://www.kitco.com/ind/Daughty/sept212005.html

"Well, their little sandboxes got filled with some new sand and new toys, as the Required Reserves in the banks abruptly fell to $42.4 billion, even though their Loans/Leases book increased by $25 billion to $5,312 billion.

According to these figures, the Reserve Ratio is, and hold onto your hats, now a measly 0.08%! The standard, textbook example ratio is 10%! And here they are at less than 1%! They have no cushion against losses of any kind! Wow! What guts! What nerve! What stupidity!"

stolwyk
23-09-2005, 11:38 AM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Watching Hurricane Rita
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1127444400.php

CURRENT: USD 88.36 Euro 1.216 Gold 465.4 Silver 7.33 Oil 66.70


Hurricane George is Heading Straight for Your Portfolio
By: Peter Schiff, Euro Pacific Capital, Inc.
http://news.goldseek.com/EuroCapital/1127419074.php


CHINA IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS
Will China's Growth Eliminate Inflation?
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/merk/2005/0922.html


GATA’s Efforts Paying Off, Impact Spreading/SHAKA..ZULU!
http://news.goldseek.com/LemetropoleCafe/1127398282.php


Schmidt: Moneyizatioin # 17
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1127422086.php


China self-supplies 94% of energy need
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-09/22/content_480021.htm

stolwyk
24-09-2005, 03:56 PM
Gold Seeker Weekly Wrap-Up - All Eyes on Rita
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1127530800.php

Current: USD 88.98 (+0.62) Euro 1.236 Oil 64.19 (-2.31) Gold 463.4 Silver 7.27

Global: Who's Blaming Whom? Stephen Roach (New York)
http://www.morganstanley.com/GEFdata/digests/latest-digest.html

P Van Eeden: THE FED
http://www.kitco.com/weekly/paulvaneeden/sep232005.html

COT GOLD:
http://news.goldseek.com/COT/1127504109.php

COT SILVER:
http://news.silverseek.com/COT/1127504207.php

HAMILTON: GOLD BULL, STAGE TWO:
http://www.gold-eagle.com/gold_digest_05/hamilton092305.html


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Chapman: International Forecaster September, 2005 (#3) - Gold, Silver, Economy + More

http://news.goldseek.com/InternationalForecaster/1127491774.php

"Not only will physical demand continue to accelerate but gold is about to be viewed as an alternative investment. There is a gradual decay in sentiment for fiat currency investments, which is giving an important lift to gold.

Us debt has reached 320% of GDP, a level that surpasses what we saw prior to the onset of the Great Depression.

The continued 12% increases in money and credit cannot help but devalue the dollar and increase the value of gold. Unfortunately, there is no alternative currency to the dollar except gold. The rest are various forms of fiat currency".


" Kitco, Bart Kitco and Doug Casey, operate pool accounts in gold and silver. This is a derivative system that essentially puts Kitco in a short position relative to gold and silver. They accept money for gold and silver positions by investors that it may or may not have the inventory to make good on delivery should the investors decide to take metal out rather than cash out. That would make Kitco a net short to the market. Now you can understand why they are always under quoting prices. They are trading and opportuning the market".

TRENCH
25-09-2005, 01:28 AM
THE AUD should fal to 7505 to 7512 and then bounce. This is the lower side of the current bracket

stolwyk
25-09-2005, 11:38 AM
Thanks LG.

Hurricanes Are Getting Stronger, Study Says
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/09/0915_050915_hurricane_strength.html

Oil industry escapes Rita's worst
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,16715130%255E1702,00.html

Mauldin: The Singularity Is Near
http://news.goldseek.com/MillenniumWaveAdvisors/1127656801.php


GREENSPAN AND THE RATE OF INTEREST--Gnazzo
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/gnazzo/2005/0923.html

"The broadest U.S. money supply measure is M-3, as shown in the chart below. It was up $32.4 billion in the latest week. In the last 3 months, M-3 has been up $216 billion, which equates to an annualized rate of almost a trillion dollars a year.

Financial Sense Newshour
http://www.netcastdaily.com/fsnewshour.htm

Credit Bubble Bulletin, by Doug Noland
http://www.prudentbear.com/creditbubblebulletin.asp

TRENCH
26-09-2005, 04:20 AM
I would be looking for long positions on the SPI futures.

stolwyk
26-09-2005, 09:51 AM
Hurricanes Are Getting Stronger, Study Says
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/09/0915_050915_hurricane_strength.html


Mauldin:
The Singularity Is Near
http://news.goldseek.com/MillenniumWaveAdvisors/1127656801.php
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US CPI: FIREWORKS COMING UP

J. Williams mentioned that starting in the last quarter of this year, he would be calculating the true CPI rate and this will be handed to Financial Sense for publication.

Presumably, he would be one of Financial Sense's guests and it ought to be a very interesting audio.

Of course, the FED would'nt like it.

At his last appearance at Puplava's interview, he mentioned that although the US GDP rate was 3%. the NET increase was 0%.

Here is his interesting website:

http://www.gillespieresearch.com/cgi-bin/bgn
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The Economist: A nasty whiff of inflation

Sep 22nd 2005
http://www.economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=4425575


Extract:
"Stephen Roach, the chief economist at Morgan Stanley, worked at the Fed in the 1970s under the then chairman, Arthur Burns. He remembers the dangers of core inflation.

When oil prices surged in 1973-74, Burns asked the Fed's economists to strip out energy from the consumer-price index (CPI) to get a less distorted measure.

When food prices then rose sharply, they stripped those out too—followed by used cars, children's toys, jewellery, housing and so on, until around half the CPI basket was excluded because it was supposedly “distorted” by exogenous forces. As a result, the Fed failed to spot the breadth of emerging inflationary pressures throughout the economy".

"However, the euro area's official inflation rate probably understates reality, because it excludes the costs of owner-occupied housing. Adding these in would probably push this month's inflation rate above 3%".

Comment: The FED excludes it as well.

TRENCH
27-09-2005, 01:18 AM
Buy AUD near 7510

stolwyk
27-09-2005, 02:06 PM
Gold Seeker Closing Report – Gold & Silver Rebound to Find Gains
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeeker/1127790000.php

CURRENT: USD 88.9 Euro 1.204 Gold 464.4 Silver 7.3 Oil 65.97


American fury over Greenspan leak
http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/article315144.ece


Deficit disaster looms
Reconstruction spending diverts attention from crisis
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/09/25/BUGFRES7LA98.DTL&type=business


China's Central Bank Raises GDP Forecast
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050926/china_economy.html?.v=3

Shandong China "Kingdom of Gold"
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/reser092505.html
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Forest: Resources
http://www.kitcocasey.com/displayArticle.php?id=300
Extract:
"India’s PTI News reports that Coal India Ltd. is planning to create an overseas subsidiary to acquire foreign mining blocks. The move is aimed at securing coking coal supplies. “We are currently finalizing the roadmap for foreign acquisition and things will be clear after September 28,” CIL Chairman Sashi Kumar said".