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Balance
26-10-2022, 12:42 PM
Remember how Ardern & her Maori cabal were so supportive of including the Mongrel Mob & gangs in the fight against drugs & crime? Even granting them $$$$ and hobnobbing publicly with them?

Well, here’s the gang’s answer to Ardern’s kindness & BS:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/130267411/antidrug-mongrel-mobs-man-was-meth-kingpin

Getty
26-10-2022, 01:21 PM
And who can believe a word the Waikato mobs evil contemptuous mercenary PR spinner Louise Hutchinson says?

What's her motivation?

dobby41
26-10-2022, 02:36 PM
Remember how Ardern & her Maori cabal were so supportive of including the Mongrel Mob & gangs in the fight against drugs & crime? Even granting them $$$$ and hobnobbing publicly with them?

Well, here’s the gang’s answer to Ardern’s kindness & BS:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/130267411/antidrug-mongrel-mobs-man-was-meth-kingpin

Remember how you said that they were soft on crime and let the gangs do what they want to get votes? Why then was this prosecuted?

dobby41
26-10-2022, 02:36 PM
And who can believe a word the Waikato mobs evil contemptuous mercenary PR spinner Louise Hutchinson says?

What's her motivation?

Hutchinson's motivation?
It's her job!

Getty
26-10-2022, 02:40 PM
Hutchinson's motivation?
It's her job!

So much for scruples and principles.

Even some of the Labour supporters I know have a few.

Balance
26-10-2022, 04:09 PM
Remember how you said that they were soft on crime and let the gangs do what they want to get votes? Why then was this prosecuted?

Which part of the gangs giving Ardern the middle finger do you not get?

Balance
26-10-2022, 04:38 PM
Ardern's solution to any problem - make it even bigger or better still, make it somebody else's disaster.

In this case, shift the homeless problem exploding under her government (because she & her mob are too dumb to sort it out) to Rotorua and make it into a disaster city.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/477164/rotorua-is-a-ghost-town-due-to-emergency-housing-crisis-resident-says

The increase of emergency housing had scared away the tourists and "knocked the hell out" of the city's hospitality sector, Hennessy said.

"We were a tourist town, we were a town of excitement, we were a town of adventure, that's our industry, we are hospitality and tourism.

"Our CBD, on any given night apart from long-weekends when we do get busy, it's a ghost town, we got zombies walking around the streets at night."

Hennessy said street violence and intimidation had become common.

"We have gangs, we have drug-dealing, you name it."

dobby41
26-10-2022, 05:50 PM
So much for scruples and principles.

Even some of the Labour supporters I know have a few.

I don't think Hutchinson has any principles but I'm not sure what she has to do with the Labour Party?

dobby41
26-10-2022, 05:52 PM
Which part of the gangs giving Ardern the middle finger do you not get?

What part of prosecuting gangs don't you get?
So much for soft on crime - the police are targetting them for traffic offenses left, right, and centre (particularly members who have been banned from driving, some has had 2 or 3 vehicles impounded).

Entrep
26-10-2022, 06:21 PM
Remember how Ardern & her Maori cabal were so supportive of including the Mongrel Mob & gangs in the fight against drugs & crime? Even granting them $$$$ and hobnobbing publicly with them?

Well, here’s the gang’s answer to Ardern’s kindness & BS:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/130267411/antidrug-mongrel-mobs-man-was-meth-kingpin

Whoever would have thought? Is there anyone is this government that is not a completely incompetent moron? This begs belief.

Getty
26-10-2022, 06:50 PM
Co governance in Urewera National Park leads to what were DOC, ie taxpayer funded shelter huts burnt to the ground, 50 in total more to go, despite the protest of users.

The 3 hydro power schemes there are not welcome either.

3 waters Co governance anyone?

Beware of what Cinders who reduced New Zimbabwe to ashes wants to foist on you.

Overdue for her and her mob to get the reject chute!

Balance
27-10-2022, 10:03 AM
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSRtXLgy5/

It’s ok to be a racist as long as the racist is a Maori or minister in Ardern’s government.

winner69
27-10-2022, 03:51 PM
Michael Wood has asked me to pass on some really good news -

Yesterday the government delivered on an election commitment to back Kiwi workers with Fair Pay Agreements. Fair Pay Agreements make it easier for workers across an industry or occupation to bargain for better wages and working conditions.

So now you know - that's good - and help Michael out by sharing the news far and wide

Panda-NZ-
27-10-2022, 04:48 PM
You know National/act would love to bring back child labour in contrast.

During a time of workforce shortage why can't a 12 year old have the freedom to decide whether to pick up some hours after school, if they want to?

dobby41
27-10-2022, 05:17 PM
Michael Wood has asked me to pass on some really good news -

Yesterday the government delivered on an election commitment to back Kiwi workers with Fair Pay Agreements. Fair Pay Agreements make it easier for workers across an industry or occupation to bargain for better wages and working conditions.

So now you know - that's good - and help Michael out by sharing the news far and wide

FPAs are really good news for workers.
Case in point - Wellington bus drivers - cut wages to get contracts, a race to the bottom for the companies bidding.
Bit them in the bum now that bus drivers are in short supply.
An FPA will allow a company to look after their staff and bid to at least the minimum without being undercut on wages.

777
27-10-2022, 06:00 PM
Have a read of this if you are sure it is "really good news".

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/opinion-why-should-the-slackers-get-the-same-pay/VOTAKTM4HREH3NYK2Z3FEPP5WA/

Panda-NZ-
27-10-2022, 06:25 PM
Have a read of this if you are sure it is "really good news".

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/opinion-why-should-the-slackers-get-the-same-pay/VOTAKTM4HREH3NYK2Z3FEPP5WA/

They will also be getting rid of one public holiday. :(

Getty
27-10-2022, 06:41 PM
His name's Goff and he's off, to London that is, as ambassador.

Suppose when Lux is in his twilight years he'll be off too, to Luxembourg.

tim23
27-10-2022, 06:51 PM
FPAs are really good news for workers.
Case in point - Wellington bus drivers - cut wages to get contracts, a race to the bottom for the companies bidding.
Bit them in the bum now that bus drivers are in short supply.
An FPA will allow a company to look after their staff and bid to at least the minimum without being undercut on wages.
And unbelievably the Wellington Regional Council knew that Tranzit were anti union - go figure the drivers are heavily unionised!

Getty
27-10-2022, 07:00 PM
Just a reality check, 3 different bus companies comprise what is known as Metlink buses in Wellington, and Transdev operate the passenger trains, under the same banner.

Balance
27-10-2022, 09:34 PM
Q: Have you heard about McDonald's new Ardern Value Meal?

A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it.

Panda-NZ-
28-10-2022, 04:00 AM
That seems more like the Lux deluxe (or lizz) tax plan.

Bjauck
28-10-2022, 07:09 AM
Q: Have you heard about McDonald's new Ardern Value Meal?

A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it. The Liz Truss Trickle Down Meal TM from National would give the richest person in MacDonalds more food with others under the table waiting for crumbs and trickled down soft drink.

Bjauck
28-10-2022, 07:19 AM
In the meantime operators in the gig economy (eg Uber) may join the unemployment queue, as a result of increasing red-tape and applying GST on to them, despite their being under the threshold level. Labour is zealous on GST, supposedly following OECD guidelines, yet shelved recommendations for a general CGT, despite the IMF recommendations.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/130296623/govt-relentless-in-applying-gst-tax-expert-says

Balance
28-10-2022, 07:52 AM
NZ worse off after 5 years of the Mistress of Spin :

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/after-five-years-under-jacinda-ardern-nz-is-now-worse-off-than-ever/news-story/ca7aede6b66336793f9d1cbb2864c65a

Utterly useless and clueless woman = Ardern

Balance
28-10-2022, 08:00 AM
So who do you choose to believe - healthcare workers at the coal-face or Ardern & Little?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/the-front-page-absolute-failure-the-big-concern-facing-the-health-sector-right-now/XOC2AY6UWMQ344EKJ2IMXWWRLU/

https://otaihangasecondopinion.files.wordpress.com/2022/07/jeff-bell-cartoon-health-minister-stuff-7-august-2022.jpg?w=1024

Balance
28-10-2022, 08:07 AM
Remember Kris Faafoi?

This is one of the consequences of Ardern retaining him as Immigration Minister when it was clear to all that he was completely out of his depth :

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/477542/new-plymouth-medical-centres-turning-new-patients-away

And now, he has set himself up as a lobbyist to perpetuate the ongoing misery & harm Ardern & he inflicted on NZers.

https://rnz-ressh.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--r2RNzhFA--/ar_16:10,c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,q_auto,w_576/4LJV9AA_FAAFOI_lobbyist_jpg

dobby41
28-10-2022, 05:26 PM
Q: Have you heard about McDonald's new Ardern Value Meal?

A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it.

And Luxon will serve it!
Making himself useful for once.

Balance
28-10-2022, 06:41 PM
And Luxon will serve it!
Making himself useful for once.

Luxon leveraged his experience in Macca to become a very successful executive and leader in the corporate world.

Ardern moved from fish & chips to Mistress of spin! Hell of a let down! What a disaster. A talking head with no substance.

Balance
28-10-2022, 06:46 PM
So who do you choose to believe - healthcare workers at the coal-face or Ardern & Little?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/the-front-page-absolute-failure-the-big-concern-facing-the-health-sector-right-now/XOC2AY6UWMQ344EKJ2IMXWWRLU/

https://otaihangasecondopinion.files.wordpress.com/2022/07/jeff-bell-cartoon-health-minister-stuff-7-august-2022.jpg?w=1024

The emergency department at one of New Zealand's biggest hospitals has been slammed as unsafe for patients and staff in a damning new report.

An independent inquiry into the death of a patient in June - after they left Middlemore's emergency department (ED) upon being told it would take hours for them to be seen - has delivered a brutal assessment of the hospital's ED.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/local-democracy-reporting/300714269/middlemore-emergency-department-slammed-as-unsafe-for-patients-and-staff

Balance
28-10-2022, 06:53 PM
NZ worse off after 5 years of the Mistress of Spin :

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/after-five-years-under-jacinda-ardern-nz-is-now-worse-off-than-ever/news-story/ca7aede6b66336793f9d1cbb2864c65a

Utterly useless and clueless woman = Ardern

She should have stuck to serving fish & chips - NZ would be a much much better country for it.

But would anyone dare buy fish & chips with oddles of her spin from her these days?

https://www.marieclaire.com.au/media/51978/jacinda-ardern-fish-n-chip-joke.jpg?width=909&height=0&mode=crop&center=0.5,0.5

tim23
28-10-2022, 07:45 PM
Q: Have you heard about McDonald's new Ardern Value Meal?

A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it.
Is that supposed to be funny 😄? I’ve got bad news for you - it ain’t funny - it’s lame at best

tim23
28-10-2022, 07:46 PM
Luxon leveraged his experience in Macca to become a very successful executive and leader in the corporate world.

Ardern moved from fish & chips to Mistress of spin! Hell of a let down! What a disaster. A talking head with no substance.

Luxon would be an ideal cult leader and you could be one of his sycophants 😀

westerly
28-10-2022, 07:51 PM
[QUOTE=Balance;980636]She should have stuck to serving fish & chips - NZ would be a much much better country for it.

But would anyone dare buy fish & chips with oddles of her spin from her these days? Quote


6 posts today and counting. All on the same theme. Get a life

westerly

tim23
28-10-2022, 08:37 PM
[QUOTE=Balance;980636]She should have stuck to serving fish & chips - NZ would be a much much better country for it.

But would anyone dare buy fish & chips with oddles of her spin from her these days? Quote


6 posts today and counting. All on the same theme. Get a life

westerly
Good call but I suspect this is Balances life

Blue Skies
28-10-2022, 11:59 PM
For months the govt was working behind the scenes to get attention seekers, Richwhite & Thackwray out of Iran (who went in against Foreign Affairs advice ) & not a word of gratitude from them to the govt.
Thanked all their followers on Instagram.
A few words of thanks to this govt who worked tirelessly to get them released would have been the decent thing to do.

And what about David Seymour blocking a motion from the whole of Parliament condemning Iran's repression of women until he receives an apology because another MP interrupted him!
Hard to believe a grown man could be so petty.
While over 300 Iranian women have been killed, hundreds detained & history is being made by these courageous women, he's appears worried about his wounded pride!
Who knew he had such a fragile ego.

Imagine if a women MP behaved like that, there would be hell to pay.
Such a double standard.

dobby41
29-10-2022, 10:22 AM
6 posts today and counting. All on the same theme. Get a life

westerly

It is a bit sad to see someone so affected by misguided hate as Balance.
I hope he gets therapy so that he can have a balanced life.

jonu
29-10-2022, 11:26 AM
For months the govt was working behind the scenes to get attention seekers, Richwhite & Thackwray out of Iran (who went in against Foreign Affairs advice ) & not a word of gratitude from them to the govt.
Thanked all their followers on Instagram.
A few words of thanks to this govt who worked tirelessly to get them released would have been the decent thing to do.

And what about David Seymour blocking a motion from the whole of Parliament condemning Iran's repression of women until he receives an apology because another MP interrupted him!
Hard to believe a grown man could be so petty.
While over 300 Iranian women have been killed, hundreds detained & history is being made by these courageous women, he's appears worried about his wounded pride!
Who knew he had such a fragile ego.

Imagine if a women MP behaved like that, there would be hell to pay.
Such a double standard.

This has been a nightmare scenario for Ardern. The "influencers" hampering an effective response to the atrocities happening in Iran without her being able to say so at the time. Let's hope Daddy Richwhite comes forward with a donation to Women's Refuge 10x the amount of Baksheesh he will have paid to get his idiot son out.

This though, also ignores the squirming Ardern will feel over her own virtue signalling wearing of the hijab. Actions have consequences, even for "influencers" and PMs.

dobby41
29-10-2022, 01:39 PM
For months the govt was working behind the scenes to get attention seekers, Richwhite & Thackwray out of Iran (who went in against Foreign Affairs advice ) & not a word of gratitude from them to the govt.
Thanked all their followers on Instagram.
A few words of thanks to this govt who worked tirelessly to get them released would have been the decent thing to do.

And what about David Seymour blocking a motion from the whole of Parliament condemning Iran's repression of women until he receives an apology because another MP interrupted him!
Hard to believe a grown man could be so petty.
While over 300 Iranian women have been killed, hundreds detained & history is being made by these courageous women, he's appears worried about his wounded pride!
Who knew he had such a fragile ego.

Imagine if a women MP behaved like that, there would be hell to pay.
Such a double standard.

Seymour's ego was there for all to see.

Balance
29-10-2022, 04:00 PM
This has been a nightmare scenario for Ardern. The "influencers" hampering an effective response to the atrocities happening in Iran without her being able to say so at the time. Let's hope Daddy Richwhite comes forward with a donation to Women's Refuge 10x the amount of Baksheesh he will have paid to get his idiot son out.

This though, also ignores the squirming Ardern will feel over her own virtue signalling wearing of the hijab. Actions have consequences, even for "influencers" and PMs.

The silence from the hijab wearing Ardern continues to be deafening indeed.

She obviously cannot bring herself to condemn the wearing of the hijab as oppression of females in Iran.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/477608/nothing-stopping-new-zealand-s-condemnation-of-iran-green-party-says

FTG
29-10-2022, 05:40 PM
Seymour's ego was there for all to see.

After taking the click-bait, most would agree that it doesn't appear to be Seymour's 'finest moment'. Or as said in political/media circles...."not good optics".

However, dig a little deeper, and reveal the entire narrative (& hence context) of the House 'discussion'/debate at the time, and one potentially sees quite a different picture. ;)

Again, it just goes to show how carefully curated 'soundbites' & reporting by the media, (and of course political foe) can have a significant bearing on how the populace view a particular individual.

westerly
30-10-2022, 11:51 AM
After taking the click-bait, most would agree that it doesn't appear to be Seymour's 'finest moment'. Or as said in political/media circles...."not good optics".

However, dig a little deeper, and reveal the entire narrative (& hence context) of the House 'discussion'/debate at the time, and one potentially sees quite a different picture. ;)

Again, it just goes to show how carefully curated 'soundbites' & reporting by the media, (and of course political foe) can have a significant bearing on how the populace view a particular individual.

PoliticsOctober 28, 2022
Leaked: The real reason David Seymour blocked Golriz Ghahraman’s Iran statement

An explosive political exclusive from The Spinoff.

Act was set to block a unified parliamentary message condemning Iranian authorities for their brutal response to women’s rights protests, with party leader David Seymour saying on Wednesday that he wouldn’t vote for the motion unless Green MP Golriz Ghahraman apologised for interrupting him during a speech in the House.

On Thursday, minister of foreign affairs Nanaia Mahuta took over the motion after Seymour indicated he would support it under any other MP’s name but Ghahraman. Act MPs have recently criticised the government’s silence in condemning the actions of Iranian authorities. Seymour said it was a great outcome and hoped it would teach Ghahraman to “treat the people next door with a bit of dignity”.

Today, The Spinoff has come across exclusive information explaining the reasoning behind Seymour’s stand. It is listed in full below:

Wah.

Waaaaahhhhhhhhh.

The lady was rude to me.

Wah wah wah, wah wah.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Waaaaa.

Wah wah wah wah? Wah?

Wah wah wah.

westerly

FTG
30-10-2022, 02:15 PM
An explosive political exclusive from The Spinoff.





LOL! Something pushed your buttons Westerly? Don't be lazy now.....dig deeper.

However, yes you are right. The Spinoff are yet another great example of exactly what I was highlighting. All more the reason why we should maintain a healthy level of skepticism when consuming 'cleverly' curated click-bait, soundbites, from media.

Oh yes.....lest not forget, The Spinoff is certainly no exception when it comes to sometimes falling down the "Sensationalising News" rabbit hole.

July 2022....The NZ Media Council has upheld a complaint against The Spinoff for inaccuracies in a story...

tim23
30-10-2022, 05:03 PM
For months the govt was working behind the scenes to get attention seekers, Richwhite & Thackwray out of Iran (who went in against Foreign Affairs advice ) & not a word of gratitude from them to the govt.
Thanked all their followers on Instagram.
A few words of thanks to this govt who worked tirelessly to get them released would have been the decent thing to do.

And what about David Seymour blocking a motion from the whole of Parliament condemning Iran's repression of women until he receives an apology because another MP interrupted him!
Hard to believe a grown man could be so petty.
While over 300 Iranian women have been killed, hundreds detained & history is being made by these courageous women, he's appears worried about his wounded pride!
Who knew he had such a fragile ego.

Imagine if a women MP behaved like that, there would be hell to pay.
Such a double standard.
Hardly likely to get an apology from two privileged show ponies spending Daddy’s $

Balance
30-10-2022, 05:37 PM
Deafening silence from the hijab wearing Ardern continues.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/10/kiwi-iranians-demand-stronger-action-against-iran-accuse-jacinda-ardern-of-failing-to-lead.html

777
30-10-2022, 07:02 PM
Hardly likely to get an apology from two privileged show ponies spending Daddy’s $

Just because you entitled lefties haven't been personally advised they may have been in contact with those that assisted and thanked them.

tim23
30-10-2022, 08:13 PM
Just because you entitled lefties haven't been personally advised they may have been in contact with those that assisted and thanked them.
Don’t try defending these entitled brats

777
30-10-2022, 09:01 PM
Don’t try defending these entitled brats

I agree they are simply idiots but you are just speculating on what has happened when you in fact don't know.

Balance
31-10-2022, 12:34 PM
5 years in power and what have Ardern & her mob delivered of the huge promises they made to get into government?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/130276066/by-the-numbers-has-labour-achieved-its-promises-during-five-years-in-power

Conclusion : all spin & bugger all delivery = Ardern

tim23
31-10-2022, 05:34 PM
I agree they are simply idiots but you are just speculating on what has happened when you in fact don't know.

We do know they were told not to go - they did end of story. Who called Christopher calls themselves Topher - give me a break!

777
31-10-2022, 06:00 PM
We do know they were told not to go - they did end of story. Who called Christopher calls themselves Topher - give me a break!


That wasn't the argument. But I give up.

tim23
31-10-2022, 06:15 PM
That wasn't the argument. But I give up.
I would have thought that pretty simple - don’t play with fire you might get burnt

777
31-10-2022, 06:38 PM
You need help.

Blue Skies
31-10-2022, 06:39 PM
I agree they are simply idiots but you are just speculating on what has happened when you in fact don't know.


Hey we do know, because when they gave interviews on TV, they effusively thanked all their followers on Instagram & their families for their support.
But there was a glaring omission, they never mentioned their rescuers. Ouch!

It would have been a decent thing to use the opportunity to publicly thank their rescuers - those in govt who worked for months to safely get them out (& if you listen to the PM's post cabinet briefing today, it was a very delicate & complex diplomatic operation involving talking to other countries & looking at specific examples of strategies which had worked & what had failed in extracting people from these situations).
Just wasn't a good look, may not be intended but just looks a bit entitled.
Bureaucrats are people too & deserve some respect.

Balance
31-10-2022, 06:51 PM
Hey we do know, because when they gave interviews on TV, they effusively thanked all their followers on Instagram & their families for their support.
But there was a glaring omission, they never mentioned their rescuers. Ouch!

It would have been a decent thing to use the opportunity to publicly thank their rescuers - those in govt who worked for months to safely get them out (& if you listen to the PM's post cabinet briefing today, it was a very delicate & complex diplomatic operation involving talking to other countries & looking at specific examples of strategies which had worked & what had failed in extracting people from these situations).
Just wasn't a good look, may not be intended but just looks a bit entitled.
Bureaucrats are people too & deserve some respect.


Delicate & complex?

Garbage from the mistress of spin - only idiots fall for her spin.

Ardern = no credibility.

777
31-10-2022, 07:09 PM
Hey we do know, because when they gave interviews on TV, they effusively thanked all their followers on Instagram & their families for their support.
But there was a glaring omission, they never mentioned their rescuers. Ouch!

It would have been a decent thing to use the opportunity to publicly thank their rescuers - those in govt who worked for months to safely get them out (& if you listen to the PM's post cabinet briefing today, it was a very delicate & complex diplomatic operation involving talking to other countries & looking at specific examples of strategies which had worked & what had failed in extracting people from these situations).
Just wasn't a good look, may not be intended but just looks a bit entitled.
Bureaucrats are people too & deserve some respect.

Here we go again. So they didn't publicly thank those involved but how do you know they did not do it personally. But I have been over this before. If you want to be like tim23 then carry on by yourself.

tim23
31-10-2022, 07:57 PM
Here we go again. So they didn't publicly thank those involved but how do you know they did not do it personally. But I have been over this before. If you want to be like tim23 then carry on by yourself.

WE are both correct - you are defending these brats you may be one yourself because you are carrying on like one.

Getty
31-10-2022, 08:03 PM
That notorious Bay of Plenty city Wrote a ruer is back in the news.

Absentee motel owner reads newspaper to find that Cinders has jammed 100 homeless into her motel, without her knowledge.

No job too big or small for Sardine Cinders!
2F 1C

tim23
31-10-2022, 08:10 PM
That notorious Bay of Plenty city Wrote a ruer is back in the news.

Absentee motel owner reads newspaper to find that Cinders has jammed 100 homeless into her motel, without her knowledge.

No job too big or small for Sardine Cinders!
2F 1C

Alpin Motel freehold owner should stop complaining, the tenant is probably paying the rent and operating within terms of their lease agreement.

Balance
31-10-2022, 09:09 PM
That notorious Bay of Plenty city Wrote a ruer is back in the news.

Absentee motel owner reads newspaper to find that Cinders has jammed 100 homeless into her motel, without her knowledge.

No job too big or small for Sardine Cinders!
2F 1C

Most transparent government ever!

Arden = BS artist

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rotorua-daily-post/news/rotorua-contracted-emergency-housing-motel-owner-unaware-homeless-were-living-at-her-property-resource-consent-hearing-told/SYOI2GFB77426KXFN2FOEFOPSQ/

Excerpt : “He said the Ministry of Social Development's study into where the homeless had come from, released earlier this year - showed two-thirds of those in emergency housing at the time were from Rotorua - revealed a "corrupted methodology" because it "reclassified people as locals" based on where they had lived in the past 30 days.

He described it as "devious trickery".

He said locals wanted to see the "homeless industry" dismantled.”

Balance
01-11-2022, 09:56 AM
The great immigration reset disaster by Ardern & her clueless mob.

No wonder only 12 nurses have joined from overseas when 21,000 are required.

And Ardern & Michael Wood would have us believe that NZ is such a shxt hot country that there are queues begging to come to NZ to work.

Queuing for what?

Lower pay, lower standard of living, expensive housing and more crime compared to other countries like Australia & Canada.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/130159484/governments-approach-to-immigration-is-an-imaginary-can-opener

But the broad policy is that New Zealand won’t return to pre-pandemic settings and a dependence on 'low-skilled and low-paid migrants', as the former minister, Kris Faafoi, put it (before heading seamlessly into a new lobbying job with barely a change in suit).

Keeping the border semi-closed to the low-skilled is how we ended up with 12 nurses crossing the border. We need 21,000.

Delivering less than a thousandth of the number needed is failure on a scale that makes KiwiBuild look like a raging success. Is Waka Kotahi now running immigration?

iceman
01-11-2022, 11:59 AM
The great immigration reset disaster by Ardern & her clueless mob.

No wonder only 12 nurses have joined from overseas when 21,000 are required.

And Ardern & Michael Wood would have us believe that NZ is such a shxt hot country that there are queues begging to come to NZ to work.

Queuing for what?

Lower pay, lower standard of living, expensive housing and more crime compared to other countries like Australia & Canada.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/130159484/governments-approach-to-immigration-is-an-imaginary-can-opener

But the broad policy is that New Zealand won’t return to pre-pandemic settings and a dependence on 'low-skilled and low-paid migrants', as the former minister, Kris Faafoi, put it (before heading seamlessly into a new lobbying job with barely a change in suit).

Keeping the border semi-closed to the low-skilled is how we ended up with 12 nurses crossing the border. We need 21,000.

Delivering less than a thousandth of the number needed is failure on a scale that makes KiwiBuild look like a raging success. Is Waka Kotahi now running immigration?

Don't forget they've also had 1 applicant under their changed (from successful to useless) investor visa category. So slowly adding up !!

Getty
01-11-2022, 12:39 PM
Georgie Dansey is Labours candidate for Hamilton West.

I'm glad they told us she is Ngati Tuwharetoa, cos she looks more Euro, and thats just not diverse enough is it Labour?


https://youtu.be/wsIbfYEizLk

BlackPeter
01-11-2022, 12:58 PM
Don't forget they've also had 1 applicant under their changed (from successful to useless) investor visa category. So slowly adding up !!

Doubt though that this one investor will strengthen our nursing workforce ... I understand they need to bring tens of millions of dollars. Or maybe is this the way we motivate foreign nurses to come to us? Pay for your own hospital in NZ and we might grant you a work visa to work there as a nurse?

Hey - if this works, than they are geniuses ... but I suppose, they might not find enough wealthy enough healthcare workers;

iceman
01-11-2022, 01:00 PM
Doubt though that this one investor will strengthen our nursing workforce ... I understand they need to bring tens of millions of dollars. Or maybe is this the way we motivate foreign nurses to come to us? Pay for your own hospital in NZ and we might grant you a work visa to work there as a nurse?

Hey - if this works, than they are geniuses ... but I suppose, they might not find enough wealthy enough healthcare workers;

I didn't realise our people shortages all over NZ were limited to nurses

BlackPeter
01-11-2022, 01:04 PM
I didn't realise our people shortages all over NZ were limited to nurses

no, but balance talked about nurses ...

dobby41
01-11-2022, 01:40 PM
Alpin Motel freehold owner should stop complaining, the tenant is probably paying the rent and operating within terms of their lease agreement.

And if it wasn't within the terms of the lease they should go the leasee.

iceman
01-11-2022, 03:12 PM
Our kind, honest & transparent PM telling new Twitter Owner Elon Musk to "stick strongly to the principle of transparency".
Too funny, coming from her, the master of spin herself

jonu
01-11-2022, 03:55 PM
Our kind, honest & transparent PM telling new Twitter Owner Elon Musk to "stick strongly to the principle of transparency".
Too funny, coming from her, the master of spin herself

It's exactly her type and the cabal she's working with to strip us off democracy that Musk has in his sights. Twitter had become a leftie paradise shutting down any dissenting view.

westerly
01-11-2022, 04:03 PM
The great immigration reset disaster by Ardern & her clueless mob.

No wonder only 12 nurses have joined from overseas when 21,000 are required.

And Ardern & Michael Wood would have us believe that NZ is such a shxt hot country that there are queues begging to come to NZ to work.

Queuing for what?

Lower pay, lower standard of living, expensive housing and more crime compared to other countries like Australia & Canada.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/130159484/governments-approach-to-immigration-is-an-imaginary-can-opener

But the broad policy is that New Zealand won’t return to pre-pandemic settings and a dependence on 'low-skilled and low-paid migrants', as the former minister, Kris Faafoi, put it (before heading seamlessly into a new lobbying job with barely a change in suit).

Keeping the border semi-closed to the low-skilled is how we ended up with 12 nurses crossing the border. We need 21,000.

Delivering less than a thousandth of the number needed is failure on a scale that makes KiwiBuild look like a raging success. Is Waka Kotahi now running immigration?

Bring in one nurse, she is married, they want to bring in 4 parents who have spent thier working life in another country. What have we gained?

westerly

Blue Skies
01-11-2022, 04:48 PM
Some posters on here regularly state we have more crime than Australia.
In fact that's incorrect.

While both countries have similar crime rates NZ is one of the safest countries in the world.
However, you are significantly more likely to be murdered with a firearm, raped, or be a victim of violent crime in Australia rather than NZ.
Also although pay is higher in Australia, rents & property tend to be more expensive.
Now I know someone will immediately jump on some individual city or town comparison & expect the usual BS nonsense, but this is country V country overall.

NZ is a wonderful country to live & its a shame to see some people so eager to trash it at every opportunity.
Perhaps life has not worked out as they expected & they've found it hard to adjust.



https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Australia/New-Zealand/Crime

jonu
01-11-2022, 04:53 PM
Some posters on here regularly state we have more crime than Australia.
In fact that's incorrect.

While both countries have similar crime rates NZ is one of the safest countries in the world.
However, you are significantly more likely to be murdered with a firearm, raped, or be a victim of violent crime in Australia rather than NZ.
Also although pay is higher in Australia, rents & property tend to be more expensive.
Now I know someone will immediately jump on some individual city or town comparison & expect the usual BS nonsense, but this is country V country overall.

NZ is a wonderful country to live & its a shame to see some people so eager to trash it at every opportunity.
Perhaps life has not worked out as they expected & they've found it hard to adjust.



https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Australia/New-Zealand/Crime

I think most people would be comparing NZ to what they have known living here all their lives. I have witnessed a disintegration of the fabric of society brought about by Ardern's policies of divide and rule. Aspects of it have been caused by multiple failures across different governments, but none have accelerated it like Ardern. And she's only just getting started. Wait until her apartheid policies begin to bear fruit.

Balance
01-11-2022, 06:28 PM
Bring in one nurse, she is married, they want to bring in 4 parents who have spent thier working life in another country. What have we gained?

westerly

Garbage.

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/options/join-family/all-family-visas

Balance
01-11-2022, 06:44 PM
Such a shxt hot country is NZ according to Ardern & Michael Woods - so hot that nobody wants to come here, resulting in disastrous shortages in healthcare, education and even shortage of bus drivers!

Meanwhile, Kris Faafoi is busy lobbying to make matters worse after screwing up immigration in the last 3 years.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/nz-out-of-favour-recruiter-at-uk-job-market-says-no-one-wanted-to-move-here/IPE2QWUDPV74ZRWCO5DAVXMDYE/

paywalled

Crime, the rising cost of living and housing affordability are just some reasons migrants are choosing to work in Australia or Canada, instead of New Zealand, a recruitment boss says.

He made the comments after attending a job fair in the United Kingdom and was unable to find one person interested in moving to New Zealand for work.

Business leaders told NZME that our country's immigration policies were cumbersome and there was an exodus of young people as they went on their OE or sought higher-paying opportunities.

westerly
01-11-2022, 06:47 PM
Garbage.

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/options/join-family/all-family-visas

Not really. https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-a-visa/about-visa/parent-resident-visa

westerly

Balance
01-11-2022, 07:09 PM
Not really. https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-a-visa/about-visa/parent-resident-visa

westerly

Limited to 2,500 a year - oh wow!!!

And ….’You can apply to live in New Zealand permanently if you have a child who is a New Zealand citizen or resident. They must earn enough money and agree to sponsor you.’

And how many NZers are perennially & stubbornly on the jobseeker benefit?

In excess of 100,000!

And how many beneficiaries are born to sole parents who stay at home to breed in NZ each year?

Balance
01-11-2022, 08:19 PM
The kindness of Ardern & her useless mob does not extend to students whose school is next to the motels for homeless in Rotorua.

And the Ministry of Education does not give a stuff.

Criminal & anti-social behaviour - engineered, arranged, encouraged & cheered on by this government. Law abiding citizens - get stuffed.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rotorua-daily-post/news/rotorua-seventh-day-adventist-school-students-fearful-after-incidents-with-homeless-hearing-told/ARGBT2EJW6LL7PF33YPVV5IBEM/

“A used tampon, knives, booze bottles, condoms and human faeces have all been dumped in a Christian school's grounds by people in Rotorua emergency housing motels, school leaders say.

The Seventh-day Adventist School students and staff have been threatened and had sexually explicit verbal abuse hurled at them. Children have been called a racial slur and challenged for fights simply because their school uniform is blue.”

"Take care of our children, take care of what they hear, take care of what they see, take care of what they feel, for how they grow will be the shape of Aotearoa."

Balance
01-11-2022, 08:39 PM
And Ardern & her mob are spending $1m a DAY to inflict the homeless misery on law abiding citizens.

You cannot make this stuff up even if you try.

jonu
01-11-2022, 08:39 PM
The kindness of Ardern & her useless mob does not extend to students whose school is next to the motels for homeless in Rotorua.

And the Ministry of Education does not give a stuff.

Criminal & anti-social behaviour - engineered, arranged, encouraged & cheered on by this government. Law abiding citizens - get stuffed.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rotorua-daily-post/news/rotorua-seventh-day-adventist-school-students-fearful-after-incidents-with-homeless-hearing-told/ARGBT2EJW6LL7PF33YPVV5IBEM/

“A used tampon, knives, booze bottles, condoms and human faeces have all been dumped in a Christian school's grounds by people in Rotorua emergency housing motels, school leaders say.

The Seventh-day Adventist School students and staff have been threatened and had sexually explicit verbal abuse hurled at them. Children have been called a racial slur and challenged for fights simply because their school uniform is blue.”

"Take care of our children, take care of what they hear, take care of what they see, take care of what they feel, for how they grow will be the shape of Aotearoa."

Hmmm....Christians....pillars of society. Not really Cindy's support base, so she won't give a toss.

dobby41
01-11-2022, 09:17 PM
Some posters on here regularly state we have more crime than Australia.
In fact that's incorrect.

Some people here only believe what they want to believe - no balance!

BlackPeter
02-11-2022, 07:50 AM
I think most people would be comparing NZ to what they have known living here all their lives. I have witnessed a disintegration of the fabric of society brought about by Ardern's policies of divide and rule. Aspects of it have been caused by multiple failures across different governments, but none have accelerated it like Ardern. And she's only just getting started. Wait until her apartheid policies begin to bear fruit.

Ever wondered whether its maybe not Ardern's policies but the increasing hate messages coming from the far right which are dividing our country?

While I agree that the Labour government made a lot of mistakes (as all humans do) and while I agree that the race based policies are not helpful .... the excessive and over the top rants coming from the political far-right are neither.

Comparing Labours attempts to introduce Co-governance in New Zealand with apartheit is frankly B/S.

Anything you personally could do to improve the political climate and debate?

BlackPeter
02-11-2022, 07:58 AM
Some people here only believe what they want to believe - no balance!

I guess that's why its called "to believe" and not "to know". A famous German philosopher (Nietzsche) said once:" 'belief' means that you don't want to know what is true" ('Glaube' heißt Nicht-wissen-wollen, was wahr ist.).

A highly appropriate citation.

ynot
02-11-2022, 08:22 AM
I think most people would be comparing NZ to what they have known living here all their lives. I have witnessed a disintegration of the fabric of society brought about by Ardern's policies of divide and rule. Aspects of it have been caused by multiple failures across different governments, but none have accelerated it like Ardern. And she's only just getting started. Wait until her apartheid policies begin to bear fruit.

Sean Plunket makes some good points regards the divisiveness of this govt in his latest article on the govt propaganda documentary "web of chaos"
https://youtu.be/3HsZLfxXUvg

Balance
02-11-2022, 08:39 AM
And how many NZers are perennially & stubbornly on the jobseeker benefit?

In excess of 100,000!

And how many beneficiaries are born to sole parents who stay at home to breed in NZ each year?

The housing & homeless disaster unfolding under Ardern & her useless mob is surfacing how desperate things are out there because of the broken & unfulfilled promises and policies of this government.

As an aside, what hope is there for these children when the mother feels so very entitled to produce 12 beneficiaries from 5 years old to 22 years old - while on state support and benefits?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/forgot-about-us-family-of-13-placed-into-one-bedroom-motel-units-after-fire-highlights-dire-emergency-housing-crisis/QUWHHFM7SVDIVC3XS3BKWP3CKU/

“The public wait list at the end of September was also more than 26,500, which has increased by nearly 21,000 during the past five years.

More than $1 billion has also been spent since Labour took office in 2017 to pay the moteliers being used.”

iceman
03-11-2022, 07:12 AM
The housing & homeless disaster unfolding under Ardern & her useless mob is surfacing how desperate things are out there because of the broken & unfulfilled promises and policies of this government.

As an aside, what hope is there for these children when the mother feels so very entitled to produce 12 beneficiaries from 5 years old to 22 years old - while on state support and benefits?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/forgot-about-us-family-of-13-placed-into-one-bedroom-motel-units-after-fire-highlights-dire-emergency-housing-crisis/QUWHHFM7SVDIVC3XS3BKWP3CKU/

“The public wait list at the end of September was also more than 26,500, which has increased by nearly 21,000 during the past five years.

More than $1 billion has also been spent since Labour took office in 2017 to pay the moteliers being used.”

My thoughts exactly when I read this. Her situation, possibly apart from the fire, is entirely of her own making and she appears not to have taken much personal responsibility in her lifetime. There are many people no less worthy of emergency housing, despite not having this many children. Where is her whanau and iwi ? Not much kindness there ?

Balance
03-11-2022, 08:50 AM
My thoughts exactly when I read this. Her situation, possibly apart from the fire, is entirely of her own making and she appears not to have taken much personal responsibility in her lifetime. There are many people no less worthy of emergency housing, despite not having this many children. Where is her whanau and iwi ? Not much kindness there ?

As is often said, you need a license to have a puppy but in Aotearoa, any solo mum can breed as many children with as many fathers as she likes - with expectations and a sense of full entitlement that the government will provide.

Especially with Ardern & her woke mob because that’s where they breed increases in votes.

Balance
03-11-2022, 08:57 AM
Meanwhile, in the real world where the chickens are coming home to roost, next year is going to be devastating for a lot of young NZ families as ever higher interest rates and inflation wreck havoc on their well being.

And they better not fall sick as the heathcare system is chronically broken (description by workers on the coalface)

or

become homeless due to the crippling servicing costs of high mortgages due to ridiculous house prices as they will join the record waiting list for housing

so

Do they get their children to ram raid to make ends meet as the police are incapable of making any headway in reducing crime.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/130353910/no-money-in-negative-equity-and-facing-double-interest-costs-a-year-after-buying-first-home

Pidwerbesky, who is a single father, said for the last four months he had been budgeting for a 6% home loan interest rate in preparation for renewal.

“Even with that budgeting in, I am about a week out from when I get paid, and I’ve literally got no money. You look at the accounts, and it’s all zeros, and that’s without any kind of additional expenses.

“I have fees from the kids’ activities and stuff that they are chasing me up for, I’m missing payments, I’m in a pretty bad place basically.”

jonu
03-11-2022, 12:32 PM
The gift that keeps on giving.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/former-speaker-trevor-mallards-final-sting-in-55k-bill-over-winston-peters-trespass-case/62C6TXCMUNFRVKWSLDOEAPYOPI/

Is there no end to the damage Mallard has inflicted on taxpayers? Now he is on the gravy train in Ireland. Thanks Trevor. Thanks Cindy. We are forever in your debt....literally.

blackcap
03-11-2022, 12:53 PM
Mallard really is a despicable creature isn't he.

Getty
03-11-2022, 01:22 PM
Mallard knows how to feather his nest and give NZ the bill.

tim23
03-11-2022, 07:41 PM
Meanwhile, in the real world where the chickens are coming home to roost, next year is going to be devastating for a lot of young NZ families as ever higher interest rates and inflation wreck havoc on their well being.

And they better not fall sick as the heathcare system is chronically broken (description by workers on the coalface)

or

become homeless due to the crippling servicing costs of high mortgages due to ridiculous house prices as they will join the record waiting list for housing

so

Do they get their children to ram raid to make ends meet as the police are incapable of making any headway in reducing crime.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/130353910/no-money-in-negative-equity-and-facing-double-interest-costs-a-year-after-buying-first-home

Pidwerbesky, who is a single father, said for the last four months he had been budgeting for a 6% home loan interest rate in preparation for renewal.

“Even with that budgeting in, I am about a week out from when I get paid, and I’ve literally got no money. You look at the accounts, and it’s all zeros, and that’s without any kind of additional expenses.

“I have fees from the kids’ activities and stuff that they are chasing me up for, I’m missing payments, I’m in a pretty bad place basically.”

Just because there was cheap $ no one made you buy a house apart from FOMO - I have zero sympathy for these idiots who seem to believe house prices only go north

tim23
03-11-2022, 07:42 PM
Mallard really is a despicable creature isn't he.

No he’s a person

fungus pudding
03-11-2022, 07:47 PM
No he’s a person

He's a person who happens to be a despicable creature.

Balance
03-11-2022, 07:49 PM
He's a person who happens to be a despicable creature.

Birds of a feather flock together - Ardern & Mallard

tim23
03-11-2022, 07:52 PM
He's a person who happens to be a despicable creature.
Thanks Mr Clever

Getty
03-11-2022, 08:02 PM
Birds of a feather flock together - Ardern & Mallard

They're both paltry.

ynot
03-11-2022, 08:42 PM
They're both paltry.

And prime candidates for the chopping block in 12 months time.

Getty
03-11-2022, 08:55 PM
And prime candidates for the chopping block in 12 months time.

They put themselves in hot water, for the plucking.

Not sure who will dress them though.

jonu
03-11-2022, 09:06 PM
Anyone else noticed how only Grant Robertson and Andrew Little seem interested in appearing with Ardern lately? Where's Hipkins? Where's Megan Woods? Where's Michael Woods? Arm's length being kept? Fear of being tainted by association? Time was they were queuing up to get airtime with Cindy. Now....not so much.

Balance
03-11-2022, 09:11 PM
Anyone else noticed how only Grant Robertson and Andrew Little seem interested in appearing with Ardern lately? Where's Hipkins? Where's Megan Woods? Where's Michael Woods? Arm's length being kept? Fear of being tainted by association? Time was they were queuing up to get airtime with Cindy. Now....not so much.

Just go, Ardern.

Just bugger off.

https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/

ynot
03-11-2022, 10:18 PM
Just go, Ardern.

Just bugger off.

https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/jacinda-just-go/

"This is what happens when you put socialists in charge. They smile. They play-act at ‘kindness’. They suffocate democracy with their mothering until there’s nothing left but orders barked from loudspeakers"

Love this quote.

Labour really showed their hand last night in their latest propaganda show "Web of Chaos" on tvnz. In it Kate Hanna, head of the dissinformation project, exposed more of Labour's inner thoughts when she went off on a raving tangent about how ashamed she was for being white.

Bjauck
04-11-2022, 07:11 AM
"This is what happens when you put socialists in charge. They smile. They play-act at ‘kindness’. They suffocate democracy with their mothering until there’s nothing left but orders barked from loudspeakers"
.... Whereas the right wing Boris Johnson uses snappy, but ultimately meaningless, sound bites in the Mother Country and just plain suffocates democratic dissent by illegally suspending parliament.

jonu
04-11-2022, 07:27 AM
"This is what happens when you put socialists in charge. They smile. They play-act at ‘kindness’. They suffocate democracy with their mothering until there’s nothing left but orders barked from loudspeakers"

Love this quote.

Labour really showed their hand last night in their latest propaganda show "Web of Chaos" on tvnz. In it Kate Hanna, head of the dissinformation project, exposed more of Labour's inner thoughts when she went off on a raving tangent about how ashamed she was for being white.

Who funds Kate Hannah? I'm sure Blue Skies with all their inside Labour knowledge will know!

Balance
04-11-2022, 07:28 AM
Love this quote.

Labour really showed their hand last night in their latest propaganda show "Web of Chaos" on tvnz. In it Kate Hanna, head of the dissinformation project, exposed more of Labour's inner thoughts when she went off on a raving tangent about how ashamed she was for being white.

Same as David Cunliffe's 'I am sorry to be a male'.

Watch the backlash from white middle class hard working NZers fed up to the backteeth with this woke BS from Ardern & her mob.

Bring on 2023!

Panda-NZ-
04-11-2022, 07:30 AM
Watch the backlash from white middle class hard working NZers fed up to the backteeth with this woke BS from Ardern & her mob.


Mike Hosking is fed up, though I'm not sure that counts.

BlackPeter
04-11-2022, 08:13 AM
"This is what happens when you put socialists in charge. They smile. They play-act at ‘kindness’. They suffocate democracy with their mothering until there’s nothing left but orders barked from loudspeakers"

Love this quote.

Labour really showed their hand last night in their latest propaganda show "Web of Chaos" on tvnz. In it Kate Hanna, head of the dissinformation project, exposed more of Labour's inner thoughts when she went off on a raving tangent about how ashamed she was for being white.

I guess given that the Tories in Britain just used the last 11 years to thoroughly destroy the British economy and currently finishing it off ... not sure whether fairytales about "Labours inner thoughts" will pull a lot voters onto the political right. Never realised that parties can have inner thoughts anyway.

Plenty of real mistakes made by Labour, why do you not talk about them instead of making stuff up?

Why don't you make real implementable suggestions what politics could do better instead of talking about some made up wishi-washi nobody cares about?

Why would the projection of your thoughts on the Labour party be the concerns of any voter?

Lets stay real and keep the political discussion out the domain of fairytales and the mud, shall we?

Balance
04-11-2022, 08:42 AM
I guess given that the Tories in Britain just used the last 11 years to thoroughly destroy the British economy and currently finishing it off ... not sure whether fairytales about "Labours inner thoughts" will pull a lot voters onto the political right. Never realised that parties can have inner thoughts anyway.

Plenty of real mistakes made by Labour, why do you not talk about them instead of making stuff up?



Real mistakes?

Try failures & disasters.

As they say, once could be a mistake.

Twice is definitely a failure.

Thrice is deliberate.

With Ardern, we have had :

1. Kainga Ora - looking after crims, law-breakers & low lives rather than law abiding citizens with its 'noo-eviction' policy.

2. Homeless - spending $1m a day & $1 billion so far to turn Rotorua into a crime ridden no-go area.

3. Kiwibuild - total disaster. Less than 3,000 houses built out of a promise of 100,000!

Incompetent is too kind a word to describe Arden & her useless mob.

BlackPeter
04-11-2022, 09:00 AM
Real mistakes?

Try failures & disasters.

As they say, once could be a mistake.

Twice is definitely a failure.

Thrice is deliberate.

With Ardern, we have had :

1. Kainga Ora - looking after crims, law-breakers & low lives rather than law abiding citizens with its 'noo-eviction' policy.

2. Homeless - spending $1m a day & $1 billion so far to turn Rotorua into a crime ridden no-go area.

3. Kiwibuild - total disaster. Less than 3,000 houses built out of a promise of 100,000!

Incompetent is too kind a word to describe Arden & her useless mob.

I knew I could rely on you to bring out the real stuff ;) - cheers !

Though you forgot them killing off immigration for pure ideological reasons (and with that strangling our companies who can't get workers), you forgot them destroying our health system as well as finishing off our education system. Tax payer gets less and less bang for their buck.

Thinking about that - the Left (in NZ) seems to be as disastrous in government as the right (in England) ... maybe we need next time a government of the political center instead? Any liberal political parties left in NZ?

Getty
04-11-2022, 09:11 AM
". They suffocate democracy with their mothering until there’s nothing left but orders barked from loudspeakers"
.

Well said.
I spent time in most Iron Curtain countries in the late 1980's, and the towns and cities were reticulated with loudspeakers in the streets.

It was a constant source of embarrassment to the locals whenever I asked their purpose.

I wonder if Comrade Cinders will install any here?

Can we look forward to her harangueing us, "I utterly reject that your freedoms and liberty are at risk"

Panda-NZ-
04-11-2022, 09:11 AM
Though you forgot them killing off immigration for pure ideological reasons (and with that strangling our companies who can't get workers), you forgot them destroying our health system as well as finishing off our education system. Tax payer gets less and less bang for their buck.

Less people is great.

Auckland is already an overcrowded shambles we don't need it to trickle down into other city centres.

Getty
04-11-2022, 09:42 AM
I see on Comrade Cinders other propaganda tool, TV1 news, commentator Pagani says Labour needs to reframe it's message before next year's election.

This weekends Labour conference may put another furrow in Cinders brow.

Any chance of a motion to topple her?
Or are the sycophants loyal for now?

ynot
04-11-2022, 09:45 AM
I guess given that the Tories in Britain just used the last 11 years to thoroughly destroy the British economy and currently finishing it off ... not sure whether fairytales about "Labours inner thoughts" will pull a lot voters onto the political right. Never realised that parties can have inner thoughts anyway.

Plenty of real mistakes made by Labour, why do you not talk about them instead of making stuff up?

Why don't you make real implementable suggestions what politics could do better instead of talking about some made up wishi-washi nobody cares about?

Why would the projection of your thoughts on the Labour party be the concerns of any voter?

Lets stay real and keep the political discussion out the domain of fairytales and the mud, shall we?


If you don't believe Labour have a hidden agenda you are living in cloud cuckoo land. Hanna's comments expose that, not to mention the raft of other sneaky agenda that they have pulled out of nowhere since they have been in power.

Also I am not saying National will do any better, Wokeism is rife in the left and right of today's politics. What we need here is more of the Wayne Brown style no nonsense thinking. Aucklanders demonstrated their preference for this in the recent mayoral election.

fungus pudding
04-11-2022, 10:01 AM
I see on Comrade Cinders other propaganda tool, TV1 news, commentator Pagani says Labour needs to reframe it's message before next year's election.

This weekends Labour conference may put another furrow in Cinders brow.

Any chance of a motion to topple her?
Or are the sycophants loyal for now?

They don't need to topple her. They're history anyway in a few short months.

Balance
04-11-2022, 10:07 AM
I knew I could rely on you to bring out the real stuff ;) - cheers !

Though you forgot them killing off immigration for pure ideological reasons (and with that strangling our companies who can't get workers), you forgot them destroying our health system as well as finishing off our education system. Tax payer gets less and less bang for their buck.

Thinking about that - the Left (in NZ) seems to be as disastrous in government as the right (in England) ... maybe we need next time a government of the political center instead? Any liberal political parties left in NZ?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/matthew-hooton-bureaucracy-needs-shaking-into-action/MRMP6KKQPJG5HAWV54OSHSCJFE/
Paywalled

The Ardern regime’s inability to deliver has become a national joke, with KiwiBuild the punchline.

But the endless failures, especially in sensitive areas of social policy, including mental health, have real-world consequences.

iceman
04-11-2022, 11:18 AM
Deputy Leader has become too embarrassing to be allowed to speak publicly https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/labour-s-deputy-leader-put-behind-closed-doors/ar-AA13G4Va?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=469e08388cac42f3bb36f11e9054f1d3

Balance
04-11-2022, 12:04 PM
Deputy Leader has become too embarrassing to be allowed to speak publicly https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/labour-s-deputy-leader-put-behind-closed-doors/ar-AA13G4Va?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=469e08388cac42f3bb36f11e9054f1d3

He is only there because he is part of the Maori cabal.

Useless and totally incompetent - a disgrace & insult to his race.

BlackPeter
04-11-2022, 04:41 PM
Less people is great.

Auckland is already an overcrowded shambles we don't need it to trickle down into other city centres.

Depends on what people we are talking about.

Our idiot immigrations service made sure that qualified GP's and nurses had to leave the country during the pandemics because immigration service suspended the work to residency visa these people had. What a bunch of xenophobe inepts (for clarity ... I am talking about the people running the immigration service, not about the health care workers we got rid of)!

Anyway - in case you have too many health care workers in Auckland, just stop complaining and send them to us. Canterbury needs them urgently;

dobby41
04-11-2022, 05:43 PM
Also I am not saying National will do any better, Wokeism is rife in the left and right of today's politics. What we need here is more of the Wayne Brown style no nonsense thinking. Aucklanders demonstrated their preference for this in the recent mayoral election.

Wayne Brown is just full of sh!t.
He'll make POA pay $200mil rates and $200m dividend - he'll just tell them to.
Now he's worked out that that will never happen - can't happen.
Yip, that's what we need - not!

Balance
04-11-2022, 06:11 PM
Wayne Brown is just full of sh!t.
He'll make POA pay $200mil rates and $200m dividend - he'll just tell them to.
Now he's worked out that that will never happen - can't happen.
Yip, that's what we need - not!

100,000 Kiwibuild homes - nothing beats Ardern’s promise of the century.

So what is she full of?

Getty
04-11-2022, 06:13 PM
Comrade Ardern has just delivered the shortest ever political speech at today's Labour conference.

Labour's accomplishments this term...

westerly
04-11-2022, 07:16 PM
He is only there because he is part of the Maori cabal.

Useless and totally incompetent - a disgrace & insult to his race.

Which race are you talking about?

westerly

ynot
04-11-2022, 07:32 PM
Wayne Brown is just full of sh!t.

Not according to the majority of Auckland voters. Wokeism is out mate.

tim23
04-11-2022, 09:29 PM
They don't need to topple her. They're history anyway in a few short months.
Is that right? Please enlighten us - how many short months (what are they anyway) ?

fungus pudding
05-11-2022, 07:51 AM
Is that right? Please enlighten us - how many short months (what are they anyway) ?

Good point. I was simply parroting an oft heard phrase, admittedly of questionable logic, which in this case means 'in a short while'; which, to pinpoint it, will be on or before the next scheduled election.

Balance
05-11-2022, 08:23 AM
Remember how ashamed Ardern said she was that NZ had children living on cars in 2017?

Fast forward to today and she has increased their numbers by 300%!

The mistress pf spin knows no shame - this is the PM of Aotearoa.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/478079/labour-leader-jacinda-ardern-opens-labour-party-s-annual-conference-in-auckland

Before Ardern officially opened the conference, the audience was shown a video of policies Labour has implemented during its five years in government.

fungus pudding
05-11-2022, 09:13 AM
Remember how ashamed Ardern said she was that NZ had children living on cars in 2017?

Fast forward to today and she has increased their numbers by 300%!
.......


But they're possibly later model cars.

jonu
05-11-2022, 09:22 AM
Who funds Kate Hannah? I'm sure Blue Skies with all their inside Labour knowledge will know!

Is no one interested in this?

jonu
05-11-2022, 10:30 AM
Another Mahuta toadie put in place for 3 Waters.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/300731108/tuku-morgan-to-head-three-waters-iwi-body-for-auckland-and-northland

I can only imagine what Ngapuhi will make of Tainui taking charge in their rohe. Go Cindy. Go Nanaia. Let's see you do this. Let's see you make another gigantic cock-up.

iceman
05-11-2022, 11:04 AM
Depends on what people we are talking about.

Our idiot immigrations service made sure that qualified GP's and nurses had to leave the country during the pandemics because immigration service suspended the work to residency visa these people had. What a bunch of xenophobe inepts (for clarity ... I am talking about the people running the immigration service, not about the health care workers we got rid of)!

Anyway - in case you have too many health care workers in Auckland, just stop complaining and send them to us. Canterbury needs them urgently;

Well said. A ridiculous comment from Panda, as usual.

winner69
05-11-2022, 11:21 AM
Robertson at the big Labour rah rah session today

“I can understand that the world looks like a scary place. I wake up every day thinking about the challenging times”

“As we face these challenging economic times, we know that we have a better starting point than most other countries.”

Blue Skies
05-11-2022, 12:04 PM
Is no one interested in this?


You are so deeply down a rabbit hole.
I just had to Google Kate Hannah to find out who she is & just watched 'Web of Chaos' because you brought it to our attention.

Scary how violent extremists & fringe groups both foreign & here in NZ have weaponise disinformation, the targeting of those in society who feel disenfranchised, isolated, resentful & are often poorly educated & so throughly indoctrinated them with beliefs which are patently absurd, completely bonkers, dangerous & represent the greatest threat to our democracy.

Getty
05-11-2022, 12:05 PM
Ah, but wasn't Cinders glorious on Newshub Nation.

More gush than Pohutu geyser.

She couldn't control her body language though.

More defensive than the Army.

jonu
05-11-2022, 12:31 PM
You are so deeply down a rabbit hole.
I just had to Google Kate Hannah to find out who she is & just watched 'Web of Chaos' because you brought it to our attention.

Scary how violent extremists & fringe groups both foreign & here in NZ have weaponise disinformation, the targeting of those in society who feel disenfranchised, isolated, resentful & are often poorly educated & so throughly indoctrinated them with beliefs which are patently absurd, completely bonkers, dangerous & represent the greatest threat to our democracy.

But who funds her Blue Skies?

Isn't it Kate who is down the rabbit hole?

FTG
05-11-2022, 12:34 PM
Mmmm, a rather 'dramatic' rant by BS there?

Lest not forget.......As often is the case, 'follow the money' and (lots) more can be revealed; including hidden agendas.

So the question still remains. 'Who' is really funding Kate Hannah?

Peel that onion by a few layers, and perhaps you will start having tears well-up in your eyes. You may well also discover genuine reason for being concerned about the clear and present threats, from 'State sanctioned' individuals/organisations, to our individual liberties,

Blue Skies
05-11-2022, 01:15 PM
But who funds her Blue Skies?

Isn't it Kate who is down the rabbit hole?


Now you've got me researching this subject!

As far as I can see, Hannah's employer is Te Pūnaha Matatini, the National Centre for Research Excellence, hosted by the University of Auckland.

It is a transdisciplinary centre involving scientists, researchers, post grads etc "was founded to apply complexity science to the critical issues of our time, with a focus on communication & connection to government and the Private sector, and launched in 2015."

Personally I can't see the University of Auckland being part of a propaganda or conspiracy group.
The university is funded by the taxpayer, student fees & private benefactors.
And Te Pūnaha Matatini was founded in 2015 under the National govt.

And apologies, I shouldn't disrespect your beliefs saying you were down a rabbit hole, but assure you I wasn't aware of her until you raised her name & the doco.


https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/news/2020/10/28/covid19-modelling-efforts-by-TPM-help-NZ.html

jonu
05-11-2022, 01:23 PM
Now you've got me researching this subject!

As far as I can see, Hannah's employer is Te Pūnaha Matatini, the National Centre for Research Excellence, hosted by the University of Auckland.

It is a transdisciplinary centre involving scientists, researchers, post grads etc "was founded to apply complexity science to the critical issues of our time, with a focus on communication & connection to government and the Private sector, and launched in 2015."

Personally I can't see the University of Auckland being part of a propaganda or conspiracy group.
The university is funded by the taxpayer, student fees & private benefactors.
And Te Pūnaha Matatini was founded in 2015 under the National govt.

And apologies, I shouldn't disrespect your beliefs saying you were down a rabbit hole, but assure you I wasn't aware of her until you raised her name & the doco.


https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/news/2020/10/28/covid19-modelling-efforts-by-TPM-help-NZ.html

Bit of disinformation there Blue Skies. The Disinformation Project is strangely opaque about their origins or funding sources on their website.

https://thedisinfoproject.org/about-us/

The truth will out.

ynot
05-11-2022, 03:24 PM
Bit of disinformation there Blue Skies. The Disinformation Project is strangely opaque about their origins or funding sources on their website.

https://thedisinfoproject.org/about-us/

The truth will out.

Strangely opaque indeed.

Balance
05-11-2022, 06:12 PM
Desperate times for Ardern & her useless mob - Robertson resorting to name-calling as Labour sinks lower and ever lower in the polls.

Now we await the howls of outrage from the Ardern devotees here about name calling?

Clueless Cindy, the mistress of spin, will surely have to reprimand Robertson? :t_up:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/labours-grant-robertson-defends-sledging-of-national-luxon-as-close-election-shapes-up/I6FD3UPG7JE57LENMCLYVMRGDM/

Getty
05-11-2022, 06:22 PM
Lux has got Robbo in a froth!

iceman
05-11-2022, 06:55 PM
Desperate times for Ardern & her useless mob - Robertson resorting to name-calling as Labour sinks lower and ever lower in the polls.

Now we await the howls of outrage from the Ardern devotees here about name calling?

Clueless Cindy, the mistress of spin, will surely have to reprimand Robertson? :t_up:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/labours-grant-robertson-defends-sledging-of-national-luxon-as-close-election-shapes-up/I6FD3UPG7JE57LENMCLYVMRGDM/

They are running scared as they know what's coming their way :t_up:

Getty
06-11-2022, 09:24 AM
Cinders on Q & A now, only half interview shown so far, but her facade has crumbled.

Questions on housing were very painful.

Getty
06-11-2022, 09:40 AM
Cinders interview will be used in future as a basis for Black Chicken deodorant and moments like these you need Minties Ads.

No Cool Charm at all, but she does need her Mum.

ynot
06-11-2022, 10:58 AM
Cinders on Q & A now, only half interview shown so far, but her facade has crumbled.

Questions on housing were very painful.

I don't see any crumbling or the of the Ardern facade. She will always be in denial of her failings as her nature never allows her to be wrong, period.

What I did see on Q & A was a polished performance from Shane Reti. He had improved his media presentation remarkably. That guy has some political substance.

Sir Ten
06-11-2022, 12:51 PM
I don't see any crumbling or the of the Ardern facade. She will always be in denial of her failings as her nature never allows her to be wrong, period.

What I did see on Q & A was a polished performance from Shane Reti. He had improved his media presentation remarkably. That guy has some political substance.

Campbell was a disgrace. So much softer with Ardern than Reti.

ynot
06-11-2022, 01:29 PM
Campbell was a disgrace. So much softer with Ardern than Reti.

Nothing new there. He's as woke as they come.He knows where his bread is buttered.

BlackPeter
06-11-2022, 03:18 PM
Nothing new there. He's as woke as they come.He knows where his bread is buttered.

Well, it is good if he is awake, isn't it? Quite the difference to posters like you who are so lazy and sleepy that the only thing they seem to be able to do is labelling people they disagree with instead of trying to analyse the message.

Anything he said was wrong? No, you wouldn't know, would you? - but given you didn't like the message you just label it as "woke" and add a little smear.

Your post tells us so much about you - and it isn't pretty. What a sad statement ...

Panda-NZ-
06-11-2022, 03:20 PM
How many here will be watching the labour conference?

No evangelical themes and talking about some real issues rather than a few jobseekers.

dobby41
06-11-2022, 03:49 PM
Cinders on Q & A now, only half interview shown so far, but her facade has crumbled.

Questions on housing were very painful.

Interesting that you see that - says more about what you want to see than what is real.

ynot
06-11-2022, 04:11 PM
Well, it is good if he is awake, isn't it? Quite the difference to posters like you who are so lazy and sleepy that the only thing they seem to be able to do is labelling people they disagree with instead of trying to analyse the message.

Anything he said was wrong? No, you wouldn't know, would you? - but given you didn't like the message you just label it as "woke" and add a little smear.

Your post tells us so much about you - and it isn't pretty. What a sad statement ...

If you read my post I was responding in regards to Campbells soft treatment with Ardern as compared with his hard line on Reti. Campbell is notoriously biased, at least to anyone with their eyes open.

Not that Reti had any problem dealing with Campbell, best Reti interview I have seen to date.

Getty
06-11-2022, 04:16 PM
Interesting that you see that - says more about what you want to see than what is real.

What I see is that she can't hold her spin face as well as before.

Look through the gush, and see what her face reverts to when unguarded.

The pooh who farted look, has deepened to who has just dropped doo doo on me from a great height?

Damn seagulls!

Getty
06-11-2022, 04:31 PM
I was amused to hear Cinders try to make political capital by commenting on her perception of Lux's inexperience.

Really?

How much experience did she have when Mr Little was desperate to drop his baton?

Prior to that fish and chips vs Maccas, business and running an airline.

Mind you, in her world International Uncouth Socialist Youth would count for something.

She must have got some ideas to inflict on fellow Kiwi's there.

dobby41
06-11-2022, 04:46 PM
I was amused to hear Cinders try to make political capital by commenting on her perception of Lux's inexperience.

Really?

How much experience did she have when Mr Little was desperate to drop his baton?

Prior to that fish and chips vs Maccas, business and running an airline.

Mind you, in her world International Uncouth Socialist Youth would count for something.

She must have got some ideas to inflict on fellow Kiwi's there.

Luxon's inexperience shows through in Parliament and when he talks nonsense to the media - like using the ocean to muff our carbon outputs.

Getty
06-11-2022, 04:55 PM
Luxon's inexperience shows through in Parliament and when he talks nonsense to the media - like using the ocean to muff our carbon outputs.

Point taken, he needs to sharpen up.

So who will we vote for dobby, David Seymour or Winston?

Or shall we wait for Dr Sharma to release his policy?

Balance
06-11-2022, 05:28 PM
Arden looked like she was swallowing many dead rats and rotten smelly fishes this morning as she was interviewed on Q&A :

She grimaced

She made funny faces

She wrinkled her nose

She gestured wildly with her hands

She spun and spun

But the game is up and the majority of NZers have wised up that she is clueless and useless.

tim23
06-11-2022, 05:53 PM
Good point. I was simply parroting an oft heard phrase, admittedly of questionable logic, which in this case means 'in a short while'; which, to pinpoint it, will be on or before the next scheduled election.
I happen to agree with you though😀

tim23
06-11-2022, 05:54 PM
I was amused to hear Cinders try to make political capital by commenting on her perception of Lux's inexperience.

Really?

How much experience did she have when Mr Little was desperate to drop his baton?

Prior to that fish and chips vs Maccas, business and running an airline.

Mind you, in her world International Uncouth Socialist Youth would count for something.

She must have got some ideas to inflict on fellow Kiwi's there.
Plenty of political experience as it turned out.

Balance
06-11-2022, 06:03 PM
Arden looked like she was swallowing many dead rats and rotten smelly fishes this morning as she was interviewed on Q&A :

She grimaced

She made funny faces

She wrinkled her nose

She gestured wildly with her hands

She spun and spun

But the game is up and the majority of NZers have wised up that she is clueless and useless.

Latest Newshub poll on TV3 :

National 40.7%

ACT 10%

Labour. 32.3%

Greens 9.5%

Goodbye Ardern & her useless mob. :t_up:

BlackPeter
06-11-2022, 06:54 PM
Latest Newshub poll on TV3 :

National 40.7%

ACT 10%

Labour. 32.3%

Greens 9.5%

Goodbye Ardern & her useless mob. :t_up:

Even if I agree that Labour would deserve to lose ...

Bit risky to rely on one poll taken 12 months prior to the elections. And lets face it - so far we have no evidence that National would be less inept. No new policies, little experience ... We might come from bad to worse ...

Balance
06-11-2022, 07:26 PM
Even if I agree that Labour would deserve to lose ...

Bit risky to rely on one poll taken 12 months prior to the elections. And lets face it - so far we have no evidence that National would be less inept. No new policies, little experience ... We might come from bad to worse ...

Impossible to imagine how any other government can be as useless as Ardern & her clueless mob.

Driven by ideological pursuits with no heed of the damage they are exacting on NZ with their divisive policies. If they are competent and delivered on some of their promises on housing, poverty, law & order, healthcare, infrastructure, education and social harmony, they would be tolerable to some extent.

But they have showed themselves to be singularly hopeless at delivering on anything except in racial & social divisiveness in their pursuit of votes.

Getty
06-11-2022, 07:31 PM
Even if I agree that Labour would deserve to lose ...

Bit risky to rely on one poll taken 12 months prior to the elections. And lets face it - so far we have no evidence that National would be less inept. No new policies, little experience ... We might come from bad to worse ...

Could not be worse.

Labour purports diversity, which obviously does not mean inclusion to them, hence all their separatist divisive policies.

Time they split the scene.

tim23
06-11-2022, 07:33 PM
Latest Newshub poll on TV3 :

National 40.7%

ACT 10%

Labour. 32.3%

Greens 9.5%

Goodbye Ardern & her useless mob. :t_up:
A weeks a long time in politics and a year even longer so counting your chickens may not be wise.

Balance
06-11-2022, 07:36 PM
A weeks a long time in politics and a year even longer so counting your chickens may not be wise.

The trend is clear.

Looks like Ardern will bail before she gets kicked out.

Hear the knives being sharpened in the background by her ‘loyal’ comrades?

blackcap
06-11-2022, 07:38 PM
The trend is clear.

Looks like Ardern will bail before she gets kicked out.

Hear the knives being sharpened in the background by her ‘loyal’ comrades?

O she who loves to be adored, will be rocked by her popularity polling in the 20's. Not even Trump polled that low. I think she might give up before Christmas. That would be a great present.

Getty
06-11-2022, 07:41 PM
Arden looked like she was swallowing many dead rats and rotten smelly fishes this morning as she was interviewed on Q&A :
.

So she will be the one farting after that diet.

Sharma on her!

Balance
06-11-2022, 07:46 PM
O she who loves to be adored, will be rocked by her popularity polling in the 20's. Not even Trump polled that low. I think she might give up before Christmas. That would be a great present.

She is still so very adored overseas according to her devotees here.

She will know she needs to bail before that turns against her too. Goodbye to the UN posting!

Logen Ninefingers
07-11-2022, 08:10 AM
NZ looking to change the deckchairs on the Titanic next year. No discussion at all in the property threads. "Save us Chris!"

BlackPeter
07-11-2022, 09:03 AM
Impossible to imagine how any other government can be as useless as Ardern & her clueless mob.

Driven by ideological pursuits with no heed of the damage they are exacting on NZ with their divisive policies. If they are competent and delivered on some of their promises on housing, poverty, law & order, healthcare, infrastructure, education and social harmony, they would be tolerable to some extent.

But they have showed themselves to be singularly hopeless at delivering on anything except in racial & social divisiveness in their pursuit of votes.

Difficult to imagine? - Maybe. Impossible? Never say never.

Just have a look at how the right wing tories trashed what once used to be a great Britain. They thoroughly destroyed the British economy and I expect England to drop in the coming years even out of the top 7 countries according to their GDP. They dropped already from place 5 to place 6 last year.

Lets face it - ineptness and ideological blindness are not reserved for only one side of the political spectrum.

I suppose the elections next year might end up again as a decision between bad and worse.

Panda-NZ-
07-11-2022, 09:38 AM
Hmm luxons spiritual views and his tenure at Air NZ haven't been properly vetted yet.

Too early to make such calls, esp when we know Nationals selection criteria is no good.

jonu
07-11-2022, 09:45 AM
Hmm luxons spiritual views and his tenure at Air NZ haven't been properly vetted yet.

Too early to make such calls, esp when we know Nationals selection criteria is no good.

Properly vetted yet? Are we to see a kangaroo court as Labour's next desperate measure?

While Luxon is inexperienced politically, I'd rather his "spiritual view" to a Mormon raised Marxist. When you throw in Ardern's apartheid promoting cohort it becomes a scary witches brew doesn't it?

Panda-NZ-
07-11-2022, 09:52 AM
Properly vetted yet? Are we to see a kangaroo court as Labour's next desperate measure?

Wouldn't that be nice, an expose on the tvnz Sunday program.

Which covers his inexperience and courting Brian Tamaki for votes etc.

777
07-11-2022, 09:59 AM
Wouldn't that be nice, an expose on the tvnz Sunday program.

Which covers his inexperience and courting Brian Tamaki for votes etc.

That was a quick amendment to your post Panda. Simply shows you continually make up stuff to post.

iceman
07-11-2022, 10:05 AM
Wouldn't that be nice, an expose on the tvnz Sunday program.

Which covers his inexperience and courting Brian Tamaki for votes etc.

You really are getting even more desperate.

Agree with the posters that have said it is far too early to say what will happen next year. A year is a very long time in politics and much will happen before then. National can not celebrate anything with Luxon only scoring in the 20s as preferred PM !

BlackPeter
07-11-2022, 10:06 AM
O she who loves to be adored, will be rocked by her popularity polling in the 20's. Not even Trump polled that low. I think she might give up before Christmas. That would be a great present.

Not really anybody around in Labour who could replace her ...

Balance
07-11-2022, 11:56 AM
Ardern said she was proud to stand by her record on housing, child poverty and homelessness on TV3 this morning.

Remember she was going to get rid of the homeless problem with $100m in 2018? 5 years later, she has spent $1 billion and made the problem into a disaster.

The mistress of spin is in a state of total denial - that’s how totally clueless and out of touch she & her useless mob are about the damages they are inflicting on NZers.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/130375471/more-and-more-i-dont-recognise-every-day-christchurchs-rising-homelessness-problem

Panda-NZ-
07-11-2022, 01:20 PM
Not really anybody around in Labour who could replace her ...

Stuart Nash or another personable and qualified woman such as Dr Lizz Craig.

BlackPeter
07-11-2022, 01:32 PM
Stuart Nash or another personable and qualified woman such as Dr Lizz Craig.

No idea whether they have what it takes, but if you think they do, than they probably should slowly start to increase their name recognition.

I realise that Stuart Nash is minister for tourism (which probably didn't challenge him too much over the last 3 years) and something I can't recall, while I never heard about Lizz Craig before. How come none of them has any important ministerial responsibilities?

Is this a case of Ms Ardern suppressing the most capable people in the party (if they would be the best to replace her)?

Panda-NZ-
07-11-2022, 02:28 PM
I realise that Stuart Nash is minister for tourism (which probably didn't challenge him too much over the last 3 years) and something I can't recall, while I never heard about Lizz Craig before. How come none of them has any important ministerial responsibilities?

Minister of police (pre-2020 before the ram raids) and economic development.


Is this a case of Ms Ardern suppressing the most capable people in the party (if they would be the best to replace her)?

Maybe, it seems NZ has learned the lesson from Australia to put someone with no charisma in as minister of finance (see Australia).

Ie, Howard, Keating, Scomo.

Panda-NZ-
07-11-2022, 02:29 PM
Though, nicola willis is far more personable than lux with more political experience.

Which is a recipe for instability.

fungus pudding
07-11-2022, 02:40 PM
Not really anybody around in Labour who could replace her ...

There is one.

777
07-11-2022, 03:16 PM
Nash. He proudly believes the buy back of guns was a success. Another dreamer.

Marilyn Munroe
07-11-2022, 05:15 PM
The Government is trying to sell a nothing to worry about vibe about 3 waters to a skeptical public , then it appoints Tuku Morgan a person with a mixed reputation to one of the controlling bodies. Politically inept.

Boop boop de do
Marilyn

jonu
07-11-2022, 05:22 PM
The Government is trying to sell a nothing to worry about vibe about 3 waters to a skeptical public , then it appoints Tuku Morgan a person with a mixed reputation to one of the controlling bodies. Politically inept.

Boop boop de do
Marilyn

He's a Mahuta toadie. Will go down like a lead balloon with Ngapuhi and even more so with Ngati Hine in Tai Tokerau. But that's the point to Nanaia. Rub their noses in it. Cindy has no idea what she is unleashing. There is an awful lot of tribal scores to settle that she has no comprehension of.

Send her back to the fish and chip shop (Cindy). It's about her level of capability.

Baa_Baa
07-11-2022, 05:42 PM
Hmm luxons spiritual views and his tenure at Air NZ haven't been properly vetted yet.

Too early to make such calls, esp when we know Nationals selection criteria is no good.

:eek2: The PM appointed Luxon as Chair of her Business Advisory Council (https://www.beehive.govt.nz/sites/default/files/2018-10/1810%20Terms%20of%20Reference%20PM%27s%20Business% 20Advisory%20Council.pdf), how ironic to cite Nationals "selection criteria".

"The Prime Minister and the Chair, working together, will identify potential members to participate. Members are appointed for their ability to think strategically about the economic and business environment, and as such are expected to take a broad view beyond their specific sector interests."

Blue Skies
07-11-2022, 06:33 PM
Interesting !
Some high praise indeed for the success of Labour's housing policy from none other than the National's Hamilton West candidate Tama Pokata.

"You either love them or hate them and right now love them. Awesome. Especially those guys at the Ministry of Housing & Urban Development."
He also praised current & past Ministers of Housing, Megan Woods & Nick Smith.

Seems a bit off message for the opposition supposed to be attacking the govt on housing. Chris Bishop & Nicola Willis will be furious.




https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/130396496/awesome-nationals-byelection-candidate-on-the-governments-housing-policies

jonu
07-11-2022, 06:43 PM
Interesting !
Some high praise indeed for the success of Labour's housing policy from none other than the National's Hamilton West candidate Tama Pokata.

"You either love them or hate them and right now love them. Awesome. Especially those guys at the Ministry of Housing & Urban Development."
He also praised current & past Ministers of Housing, Megan Woods & Nick Smith.

Seems a bit off message for the opposition supposed to be attacking the govt on housing. Chris Bishop & Nicola Willis will be furious.




https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/130396496/awesome-nationals-byelection-candidate-on-the-governments-housing-policies

It just demonstrates the lollies being thrown by the Housing Ministry to get a foothold in the housing market. I know this well from personal experience. Unfortunately, i didn't realise how desperate they were at the time!

Blue Skies
07-11-2022, 06:49 PM
It just demonstrates the lollies being thrown by the Housing Ministry to get a foothold in the housing market. I know this well from personal experience. Unfortunately, i didn't realise how desperate they were at the time!

I wouldn't know, but wouldn't it be a bit strange for the Ministry of Housing, not to have a foothold in the housing market?
If the housing market & getting more houses built isn't their focus, what is ?

jonu
07-11-2022, 07:11 PM
I wouldn't know, but wouldn't it be a bit strange for the Ministry of Housing, not to have a foothold in the housing market?
If the housing market & getting more houses built isn't their focus, what is ?

A distortion of the housing market is the entry point.
I had three calls within a week from people in the same office, who were so desperate to give figures to the Minister, that they didn't know what the person in the desk to them was doing.

They then lied to the public around the figures of new housing, as the figures I had were already permitted, not new housing stock at all.

Cindy is all about the optics and nothing to do with the truth. I can only hope she is toast with the UN as the damage she would do there is hard to limit. Helen Clark might just be smart enough to cut her loose.

Blue Skies
07-11-2022, 08:57 PM
Interesting, Newhub's political editor, Jenna Lynch is married to ACT's David Seymour's Chief of Staff.
You can see a very clear & strong bias with her choice of words in her pieces (anti Jacinda Adern ) & frothiness over things like the latest poll results.

Not good for a big media organisation or at least one that tries to present itself as objective to have a political editor with such a heavy bias against the current government & the Greens.

ynot
07-11-2022, 09:13 PM
Interesting, Newhub's political editor, Jenna Lynch is married to ACT's David Seymour's Chief of Staff.
You can see a very clear & strong bias with her choice of words in her pieces (anti Jacinda Adern ) & frothiness over things like the latest poll results.

Not good for a big media organisation or at least one that tries to present itself as objective to have a political editor with such a heavy bias against the current government & the Greens.

Do you mean like the TVNZ bias or is a current government exempt.

jonu
07-11-2022, 09:15 PM
Interesting, Newhub's political editor, Jenna Lynch is married to ACT's David Seymour's Chief of Staff.
You can see a very clear & strong bias with her choice of words in her pieces (anti Jacinda Adern ) & frothiness over things like the latest poll results.

Not good for a big media organisation or at least one that tries to present itself as objective to have a political editor with such a heavy bias against the current government & the Greens.

The money is running out Blue Skies. 105 million always had its limits. A review of your last few posts resemble the flailings of a drowning man. Everyone more desperate than the last. How quickly the worm has turned.

Panda-NZ-
08-11-2022, 03:17 AM
The alternative though is relatively easy to run against:

Take away one public holiday.
100 bucks for a minimum wage earner and NZ pensioner but $18k for Lux.
Health increase less than the CPI "for some years".

Hmmm, no thanks.

Balance
08-11-2022, 08:21 AM
Remember what Ardern & her useless mob are about as Election 2023 looms :

"Study hard, work hard, save hard and be frugal.

Labour will tax the hell out of you and give to those who don't.

Breed more beneficiaries & losers - vote Labour & Ardern."

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/52aca146e4b06d986ca82df3/1667847641367-TJYB4ZAGZHWJO7AFT9V0/Abstracts.jpg?format=500w

Balance
08-11-2022, 04:35 PM
Yet another example of just how pro-criminal & completely hopeless Ardern & her useless mob are:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/11/government-victim-support-scheme-helps-more-alleged-perpetrators-than-victims-no-sexual-violence-champions-appointed.html

Excerpt : "Newshub can reveal a $20 million fund set up by the Government to support victims of non-fatal strangulation has actually helped more alleged perpetrators than it has victims.

It can also be revealed that despite promising to have specific staff in our country's courts trained to recognise the signs of family or sexual violence, the Government's failed to introduce a single one."

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/11/christopher-luxon-slams-prime-minister-after-revelations-support-scheme-helping-more-alleged-perpetrators-than-victims.html

Allan didn't provide an explanation for why more defendants are accessing experts in non-fatal strangulation cases than victims.

jonu
08-11-2022, 04:56 PM
Leftie academic Chris Trotter spelling out how dangerous and scary Labour has become. His referencing of the Stasi and, if it wasn't so serious, comically stupid actions and collusion between Kitteridge and the Disinformation Project, coming from someone of his stature on the Left is telling. Trotter goes as far as saying Ardern's regime has a totalitarian mindset and also slams their buying off of the media and the strings attached to media outlets taking funding. Says he won't be voting Labour...and can't even use the Greens a backup position.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEeRH3TbrqY

No wonder the Labour party conference was such a confused mess of panic.

Balance
08-11-2022, 05:15 PM
Leftie academic Chris Trotter spelling out how dangerous and scary Labour has become. His referencing of the Stasi and, if it wasn't so serious, comically stupid actions and collusion between Kitteridge and the Disinformation Project, coming from someone of his stature on the Left is telling. Trotter goes as far as saying Ardern's regime has a totalitarian mindset and also slams their buying off of the media and the strings attached to media outlets taking funding. Says he won't be voting Labour...and can't even use the Greens a backup position.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEeRH3TbrqY

No wonder the Labour party conference was such a confused mess of panic.

Chris Trotter is certainly not holding back - any love he felt for Labour is long gone and it is clear he has nothing but contempt and disgust for the Mistress of Spin.

A good read indeed of just how rotten and useless Ardern & her mob are :

https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/11/08/much-worse-than-it-looks/

"Virtually every claim made by the Prime Minister in the passage quoted above is either historically contestable, or just plain, flat-out, wrong. For that very reason, it is a powerful illustration of the deeply flawed thinking that has led the Ardern Government to the brink of electoral ruin.

At its heart is a cynical contempt for the truth, and a smug conviction that the falsehoods scattered through it will not be noticed by anybody whose opinion matters. Labour’s leaders have been able to get away with this sort of rhetorical flim-flam since 2017 because the intervention of the unpredictable – Christchurch, Covid – helpfully distracted the country from its government’s moral vacuity. The longer the electorate has had to take stock of its government’s ethics, however, the less it has found to like."

Balance
08-11-2022, 06:18 PM
In other words, Chris Trotter is calling Ardern a lying hypocrite.

jonu
08-11-2022, 06:28 PM
In other words, Chris Trotter is calling Ardern a lying hypocrite.

How long before Helen Clark cuts her loose? Clark could always read the room. She won't want her career tainted by Ardern's incompetence on the world stage.

ynot
08-11-2022, 07:32 PM
How long before Helen Clark cuts her loose? Clark could always read the room. She won't want her career tainted by Ardern's incompetence on the world stage.
We can only hope. Imagine if Helen did a Trotter on her.

Bjauck
09-11-2022, 08:25 AM
Less people is great.

Auckland is already an overcrowded shambles we don't need it to trickle down into other city centres. Immigration policy needs to work in with other aspects of government, including provision of infrastructure and housing. So failure in infrastructure planning does not necessarily mean fewer people is great. Fewer people can expose failures in other areas of government services, especially where inadequacies were hidden by the arrival of willing immigrants.

Maybe economic growth off the back of an increasing population was needed to provide the funds for funding the adequate infrastructure for a smaller population. A type pf Ponzi system based on an ever increasing population...It was easier politically than increasing the productivity of working age people already here.

Balance
09-11-2022, 08:58 AM
In other words, Chris Trotter is calling Ardern a lying hypocrite.

And according to TV3 poll of perception yesterday, Ardern is now associated with fake, useless, incompetent, arrogant, disappointing, unreliable, annoying and of course, liar.

Hardly surprising but NZ is paying a very heavy price for falling under the spell of the mistress of spin in the last 5 years.

Bjauck
09-11-2022, 09:24 AM
Difficult to imagine? - Maybe. Impossible? Never say never.

Just have a look at how the right wing tories trashed what once used to be a great Britain. They thoroughly destroyed the British economy and I expect England to drop in the coming years even out of the top 7 countries according to their GDP. They dropped already from place 5 to place 6 last year.

Lets face it - ineptness and ideological blindness are not reserved for only one side of the political spectrum.

I suppose the elections next year might end up again as a decision between bad and worse. The Right Wing in the UK (eg Johnson,Truss) and perhaps the USA Republicans too - seem to be affected by the “have your cake and eat it too “ epidemic. They wanted tax cuts but (I am being generous here, I could say dishonestly) didn’t prepare for how they were going to paid for - similar to their Brexit ideology. So the markets made the decision.

They didn’t tackle the difficult part, unlike the right wing Thatcher whose reforms back in the day were clear as to who would pay (the beneficiaries, unions, old industry, Northern rust belt etc)

Similarly to an extent with Reagan versus Trump et al. in The US.

Balance
09-11-2022, 12:19 PM
And according to TV3 poll of perception yesterday, Ardern is now associated with fake, useless, incompetent, arrogant, disappointing, unreliable, annoying and of course, liar.

Hardly surprising but NZ is paying a very heavy price for falling under the spell of the mistress of spin in the last 5 years.

And Ardern & her clueless mob want NZers to trust them to implement co-governance for the greater benefit of all NZers - when the Maoris cannot agree amongst themselves how to govern their obligations!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/130421014/high-court-shuts-down-hut-burning-across-te-urewera

The interim judgement notes the special relationship Tuna has with Te Urewera “that transcends the physical contemporary world, a relationship that is founded in past, present and future generational connection with Te Urewera”.

“[Tuna] has used the huts, which are the subject of this proceeding, for recreation and the gathering of food since he was a child.”

Tuna also told the High Court that the destruction of the huts, which he said commenced in or about early October this year, “has caused great distress and loss of wairua for the applicant and affects his Tūhoetana”.

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/52aca146e4b06d986ca82df3/1661889283086-24K1VLVJTIGWPCUQJBR6/Jacinda.jpg?format=500w

Bill Smith
09-11-2022, 01:20 PM
In other words, Chris Trotter is calling Ardern a lying hypocrite.

He also correctly identified that ardern suffers from a "moral vacuity".

Talk about daggers to the heart!

iceman
09-11-2022, 02:32 PM
And Ardern & her clueless mob want NZers to trust them to implement co-governance for the greater benefit of all NZers

Co-governance on immigration policy next
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/moves-to-consult-maori-on-new-immigration-policies/MLXOYDQ53BBPNPIGWHB4S3LTGI

Getty
09-11-2022, 02:44 PM
Co-governance on immigration policy next
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/moves-to-consult-maori-on-new-immigration-policies/MLXOYDQ53BBPNPIGWHB4S3LTGI

How much longer before that bastion of indignant, oops, indigenous rights, the UN, censures New Zimbabwe for adopting aparthied & racist policies?

BlackPeter
09-11-2022, 05:25 PM
He also correctly identified that ardern suffers from a "moral vacuity".

Talk about daggers to the heart!

Does this mean she would be an ideal match for "the hollow man" ?

Panda-NZ-
09-11-2022, 05:41 PM
How much longer before that bastion of indignant, oops, indigenous rights, the UN, censures New Zimbabwe for adopting aparthied & racist policies?

Should have done it under National when they implemented the marine coastal bill 2011 and signed the UN declaration on indigeneous rights.

tim23
09-11-2022, 10:11 PM
And according to TV3 poll of perception yesterday, Ardern is now associated with fake, useless, incompetent, arrogant, disappointing, unreliable, annoying and of course, liar.

Hardly surprising but NZ is paying a very heavy price for falling under the spell of the mistress of spin in the last 5 years.

Gee it could have been a poll result reflecting you - especially annoying 😀

nztx
10-11-2022, 02:07 AM
Gee it could have been a poll result reflecting you - especially annoying ��


Would yours have been any the less better or worse ? :)

Balance
10-11-2022, 09:48 AM
Remember how Ardern spun that NZ is such a shxt hot country that hordes of skilled migrants are lining up at the border, beating at the doors to be let in?

Well, 4 months after making that assertion, here's conclusive proof that she is a hypocritical liar as Chris Trotter has boldly proclaimed - average of 1 nurse a month has migrated to NZ.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/11/jacinda-ardern-grant-robertson-react-to-pictures-of-them-in-80s-as-aged-sector-calls-for-more-funding.html

Newshub can reveal since July, the Government has signed off on employers to recruit 1097 aged care nurses from overseas, while 95 nurses have applied and 69 have been approved.

But only five have arrived in the country.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/11/jacinda-ardern-grant-robertson-react-to-pictures-of-them-in-80s-as-aged-sector-calls-for-more-funding/_jcr_content/par/image.dynimg.full.q75.jpg/v1667968320228/576x396px+-+Jacinda.jpg

BlackPeter
10-11-2022, 10:00 AM
Remember how Ardern spun that NZ is such a shxt hot country that hordes of skilled migrants are lining up at the border, beating at the doors to be let in?

Well, 4 months after making that assertion, here's conclusive proof that she is a hypocritical liar as Chris Trotter has boldly proclaimed - average of 1 nurse a month has migrated to NZ.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/11/jacinda-ardern-grant-robertson-react-to-pictures-of-them-in-80s-as-aged-sector-calls-for-more-funding.html

Newshub can reveal since July, the Government has signed off on employers to recruit 1097 aged care nurses from overseas, while 95 nurses have applied and 69 have been approved.

But only five have arrived in the country.

It is all part of the plan.


Less people is great.

Auckland is already an overcrowded shambles we don't need it to trickle down into other city centres.

Don't forget - Jacinda is working for people like Panda (doesn't Panda stand for the CCP?). Anyway - Panda wants less people in NZ and increasing the nursing shortage will reduce the life span of ordinary New Zealanders. Well this is what people like Panda want and no doubt Jacinda will oblige.

Maybe she is more effective than we thought ...

Balance
10-11-2022, 10:27 AM
It is all part of the plan.



Don't forget - Jacinda is working for people like Panda (doesn't Panda stand for the CCP?). Anyway - Panda wants less people in NZ and increasing the nursing shortage will reduce the life span of ordinary New Zealanders. Well this is what people like Panda want and no doubt Jacinda will oblige.

Maybe she is more effective than we thought ...

Tragically for those in need of healthcare & aged care, you are most probably right.

Compulsory euthanasia by stealth?

Panda-NZ-
10-11-2022, 04:33 PM
More people means more nurses.. and construction workers.. and everyone else.

Balance
10-11-2022, 06:12 PM
Data from Ministry of Education shows that only 40% of students are attending school regularly now.

And the regions with the highest truancy rates (Auckland, Waikato & BOP) suffer from the highest ram raids.

Ardern & her useless mob - facilitators of lowering standards and encouraging criminal activities.

What have they been doing?

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/52aca146e4b06d986ca82df3/1645995942210-EJQKXRINW56QNLJ81A0O/Chowder.jpg?format=500w

westerly
10-11-2022, 08:36 PM
It is all part of the plan.



Don't forget - Jacinda is working for people like Panda (doesn't Panda stand for the CCP?). Anyway - Panda wants less people in NZ and increasing the nursing shortage will reduce the life span of ordinary New Zealanders. Well this is what people like Panda want and no doubt Jacinda will oblige.

Maybe she is more effective than we thought ...

The major problem the world has is over population in many countries. Something that seems to be ignored by the media.

westerly

Balance
10-11-2022, 09:30 PM
Ardern & Little & their clueless mob have hundreds of millions of dollars to throw away at their failed reforms in healthcare, education, housing etc but they have bugger all to support those who actually are at the coal face taking care of the business of caring :

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018866343/student-nurses-at-breaking-point-with-unpaid-placements

Disgusting woman = Ardern

Disgusting man = Little

iceman
11-11-2022, 08:43 AM
The Labour Party "kindness" on full display in this article on Newshub:

In our latest Newshub-Reid Research poll, we asked, Did the Prime Minister handle the Gaurav Sharma situation well? Just 26.2 percent said yes, while 44.5 percent said no. There are also 29.4 percent who didn't know - possibly a sign the scandal hasn't landed on top of voters' minds.

The ultimate judgement will come from the by-election result.

Billboards of Dr Sharma are everywhere in Hamilton but Georgie Dansey's are yet to be hung.

"We're early on in a by-election here," said Ardern. "It's not been particularly long since Georgie's been selected."

But Labour's already begun kicking out Dr Sharma supporters.

Newshub understands a Labour Party volunteer's membership has been terminated as they've been spotted wearing a pink Sharma "Momentum" tee around town.

Newshub's also heard a handful more may have their memberships terminated for helping the rebel MP too.

Panda-NZ-
11-11-2022, 08:52 AM
But Labour's already begun kicking out Dr Sharma supporters.


It shows they effectively deal with bullies esp ones with more power in the employment relationship.

Balance
11-11-2022, 09:11 AM
What is Ardern hiding?

Why is she so shxt scared of an independent inquiry requested by Dr Sharma to investigate bullying in her government?

Sharma on her!

NZers are not fooled anymore by the mistress of spin - as Chris Trotter wrote, she is a pathological hypocritical liar.

iceman
11-11-2022, 09:11 AM
It shows they effectively deal with bullies esp ones with more power in the employment relationship.

Ah ok. So all Sharma's supporters and helpers are now bullies are they ?
Why haven't you been out there yet to hang up the signs for your candidate ? Or is she persona non grata now, after joining the union protests last week ?

BlackPeter
11-11-2022, 09:29 AM
The major problem the world has is over population in many countries. Something that seems to be ignored by the media.

westerly

That's right. Reduce human population by say 90% and most of todays problems are solved.

Problem is just - so little volunteers for the 90% bucket ... :p though people like Putin try hard to find them ...

Panda-NZ-
11-11-2022, 09:32 AM
That's right. Reduce human population by say 90% and most of todays problems are solved.

Problem is just - so little volunteers for the 90% bucket ... :p though people like Putin try hard to find them ...

Population attrition through aging.

Asia is worse off than nz/aus and europe... china, japan and south koreas population pyramids are legendary.

You do need to pay for it though.. and that's what a soverign wealth fund and sensible retirement policies is for.

Getty
11-11-2022, 09:48 AM
https://youtu.be/9Wgh31wRNeo

Balance
11-11-2022, 10:57 AM
Ah ok. So all Sharma's supporters and helpers are now bullies are they ?
Why haven't you been out there yet to hang up the signs for your candidate ? Or is she persona non grata now, after joining the union protests last week ?

Nobody wants to be associated with the loser and losing side - Ardern showing her true colours.

Balance
12-11-2022, 09:18 AM
Nobody wants to be associated with the loser and losing side - Ardern showing her true colours.

The touch of electoral death - who dares to be endorsed now by the COVID QUEEN of electoral death?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/resizer/20rkRFCY8rtXbTJZk85Ex3OkBVA=/1440x977/smart/filters:quality(70)/cloudfront-ap-southeast-2.images.arcpublishing.com/nzme/DZXHY42QFKVGO7B5IGBCG6PGWY.jpg

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/resizer/yvfK30o7hWbbXMUbk7Mgnt3Mka4=/1440x810/smart/filters:quality(70)/cloudfront-ap-southeast-2.images.arcpublishing.com/nzme/KND2INHUXUMW6IDH3ZCPWVCACE.jpg

Balance
12-11-2022, 10:41 AM
This is how Ardern & her clueless mob squander the $10 billion more of tax take from hard working NZers - increasing bureaucracy while delivering bugger all :

“Management positions at government housing agency Kāinga Ora have ballooned by more than 86 per cent in two years, and the annual cost of base salaries for managers now tops $100 million.

The Crown agency employed 319 managers in June 2020 at an annualised cost of $58m.

In June 2022 the agency employed 594 managers, at an annualised cost of $103m.“

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/ballooning-manager-class-at-public-housing-agency-costs-103m-per-year/ZQI4RSCXDRH2RLTNXA7SUATFOU/
Paywalled

The rapid rise in the number of managers coincides with criticism that the large agency is contravening the Commerce Act by prioritising its own projects for favourable regulatory treatment over those of other developers.

Last month private sector land developer Winton filed a lawsuit in the High Court alleging the agency was using its powers unfairly to assess and award “specified development project” designation (SDP), which many see as a fast-track consenting process.

Kāinga Ora’s many hats mean that it is both the arbiter of which projects are recommended for SDP designation and a landowner (or pursuing land purchase) in the only two projects approved for consideration to date.'

Murky waters! From the Government who promised transparency and to govern for all.

jonu
12-11-2022, 11:14 AM
This is how Ardern & her clueless mob squander the $10 billion more of tax take from hard working NZers - increasing bureaucracy while delivering bugger all :

“Management positions at government housing agency Kāinga Ora have ballooned by more than 86 per cent in two years, and the annual cost of base salaries for managers now tops $100 million.

The Crown agency employed 319 managers in June 2020 at an annualised cost of $58m.

In June 2022 the agency employed 594 managers, at an annualised cost of $103m.“

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/ballooning-manager-class-at-public-housing-agency-costs-103m-per-year/ZQI4RSCXDRH2RLTNXA7SUATFOU/
Paywalled

The rapid rise in the number of managers coincides with criticism that the large agency is contravening the Commerce Act by prioritising its own projects for favourable regulatory treatment over those of other developers.

Last month private sector land developer Winton filed a lawsuit in the High Court alleging the agency was using its powers unfairly to assess and award “specified development project” designation (SDP), which many see as a fast-track consenting process.

Kāinga Ora’s many hats mean that it is both the arbiter of which projects are recommended for SDP designation and a landowner (or pursuing land purchase) in the only two projects approved for consideration to date.'

Murky waters! From the Government who promised transparency and to govern for all.

But Balance....it's excellent value for money. They have averaged down the salary by 8k to 173k per manager. Bargain! Oh, but it did cost an extra 45 million to do it. What was I thinking?!

Getty
12-11-2022, 11:20 AM
Kāinga Ora’s many hats mean that it is both the arbiter of which projects are recommended for SDP designation and a landowner (or pursuing land purchase) in the only two projects approved for consideration to date.'
.

Ah well, as long as the projects get Iwi sign off, and Mahuta Ormsby Builders (MOB) do the construction, it will all be tidy.

Getty
12-11-2022, 01:13 PM
Cinders has had enough of swallowing dead rats in NZ, so she has gone to Asia for 8 days, to try some Pho.

Should go down well, she's pretty faux.

peetter
12-11-2022, 07:36 PM
This is how Ardern & her clueless mob squander the $10 billion more of tax take from hard working NZers - increasing bureaucracy while delivering bugger all :

“Management positions at government housing agency Kāinga Ora have ballooned by more than 86 per cent in two years, and the annual cost of base salaries for managers now tops $100 million.

The Crown agency employed 319 managers in June 2020 at an annualised cost of $58m.

In June 2022 the agency employed 594 managers, at an annualised cost of $103m.“

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/ballooning-manager-class-at-public-housing-agency-costs-103m-per-year/ZQI4RSCXDRH2RLTNXA7SUATFOU/
Paywalled

The rapid rise in the number of managers coincides with criticism that the large agency is contravening the Commerce Act by prioritising its own projects for favourable regulatory treatment over those of other developers.

Last month private sector land developer Winton filed a lawsuit in the High Court alleging the agency was using its powers unfairly to assess and award “specified development project” designation (SDP), which many see as a fast-track consenting process.

Kāinga Ora’s many hats mean that it is both the arbiter of which projects are recommended for SDP designation and a landowner (or pursuing land purchase) in the only two projects approved for consideration to date.'

Murky waters! From the Government who promised transparency and to govern for all.

Don't forget

Other staff totalled 1656 in June 2020, and that headcount had risen to 2578 by the end of June 2022. A rate of increase of 55 per cent.

Those are bureaucrats we will never get rid of.

Balance
13-11-2022, 11:02 AM
Don't forget

Other staff totalled 1656 in June 2020, and that headcount had risen to 2578 by the end of June 2022. A rate of increase of 55 per cent.

Those are bureaucrats we will never get rid of.

And all paid generously for doing bugger all by Ardern & her clueless mob - some of the increase in numbers no doubt to ensure woke ethnic diversity, nothing to do with ensuring efficiency and delivery of services & solutions.

Getty
13-11-2022, 11:03 AM
The Hui Tv3 today worth a watch for those who wonder Wai their water supply will be affected by co governance.

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13-11-2022, 11:16 AM
The Hui Tv3 today worth a watch for those who wonder Wai their water supply will be affected by co governance.

Factionalism is alive, but not well.

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13-11-2022, 06:26 PM
Comrade Cinders is in the big league now.
Seated as the US Presidents right hand woman at the dinner table, well she would have been if some other old codger didn't get in the way.

Poor old Joey didn't quite look with it though

Let's hope he doesn't push his nuke the world button by mistake.

jonu
14-11-2022, 07:31 AM
Lest we forget what our own government did to its citizens that they are meant to serve.

First, a government minister lies to the public and hangs two women out to dry due to a government error, Northland as a result is locked down. To top it off in the most sinister way possible, police then report the women's car as stolen so they can access surveillance data, then remove the stolen car report, as it was never stolen. The police abused their powers to target innocent NZers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liW-4G0RZhk

Thanks Chris Hipkins. Thanks Cindy.

Bjauck
14-11-2022, 07:56 AM
This is how Ardern & her clueless mob squander the $10 billion more of tax take from hard working NZers - increasing bureaucracy while delivering bugger all :

“Management positions at government housing agency Kāinga Ora have ballooned by more than 86 per cent in two years, and the annual cost of base salaries for managers now tops $100 million...
How do seperate tax taken from hard working kiwis from those who are not or are retired?
The whole housing sector is broken. This government has made it worse, on many levels.

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14-11-2022, 09:00 AM
Debbie Packer, Maori party says ram raids are due to Covid.
But they will stop if all government land including conservation and local government land is given to Maori.

I'm sure they will Debbie.

What will Cinders say?

Balance
14-11-2022, 09:03 AM
The touch of electoral death - who dares to be endorsed now by the COVID QUEEN of electoral death?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/resizer/20rkRFCY8rtXbTJZk85Ex3OkBVA=/1440x977/smart/filters:quality(70)/cloudfront-ap-southeast-2.images.arcpublishing.com/nzme/DZXHY42QFKVGO7B5IGBCG6PGWY.jpg

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Cringe - worthy!!!!

Poor Cindy - nobody wants her touch of electoral death these days so she is left with her hanger ons :

https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/4/z/1/q/j/m/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.1420x800 .25nxjg.png/1668141338373.jpg?format=pjpg&optimize=medium

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14-11-2022, 09:24 AM
Comrade Cinders is in the big league now.
Seated as the US Presidents right hand woman at the dinner table, well she would have been if some other old codger didn't get in the way.

Poor old Joey didn't quite look with it though

Let's hope he doesn't push his nuke the world button by mistake.

Hopefully the FA dept told Cinders the correct order to use the flash silver cutlery.

Makes a change from the plastic stuff IUSY used, and the best outing Clarke would have given her is a bit of cockle on the beach.

Hope she doesn't let rip with some flatulence fron all the dead rats she swallowed, or poor old Joey will think he's been nuked!

nztx
14-11-2022, 03:52 PM
Debbie Packer, Maori party says ram raids are due to Covid.
But they will stop if all government land including conservation and local government land is given to Maori.

I'm sure they will Debbie.

What will Cinders say?


Poor Debbie - has she caught some unidentified Covid variation for such brilliant observations :)

Perhaps she might be better helping the poor wayward rammers with more poor excuses for their situations
than an army of flees on their new found Covid tendencies instead of aiming to be anywhere near Politiks ;)

It doesn't take too much fathoming out a most successful fix for this sort of conduct and on how to keep them occupied for a very long time ;)

nztx
14-11-2022, 03:55 PM
Hopefully the FA dept told Cinders the correct order to use the flash silver cutlery.

Makes a change from the plastic stuff IUSY used, and the best outing Clarke would have given her is a bit of cockle on the beach.

Hope she doesn't let rip with some flatulence fron all the dead rats she swallowed, or poor old Joey will think he's been nuked!


Something might have Rushed in from Downunder .. best rush it back out again fast Joey

Just look at the shambles presided over where it hails from :)

nztx
14-11-2022, 03:56 PM
The Hui Tv3 today worth a watch for those who wonder Wai their water supply will be affected by co governance.


Hui or more blindwashing phoey ? ;)

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14-11-2022, 05:42 PM
Hui or more blindwashing phoey ? ;)

Put it this way.

The next heavy weight title fight in NZ won't be between Joseph Parker and ???, but between Ngarimu Blair and Tuk Morgan.

The water boys will be kept busy...

Balance
15-11-2022, 09:00 AM
Lettuces ploughed back into the ground because of lack of seasonal workers and the completely useless NZ unemployables with MSD.

The clueless immigration policies of Ardern & her useless mob coming home to bite the cost of living crisis for NZers.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/130409703/no-workers-to-harvest-so-farmer-sacrifices-300000-heads-of-lettuce

A farmer has been forced to plough more than 300,000 heads of fresh lettuce into the ground because he cannot find enough workers to manually harvest them.

Fong said he had given up on local labour. He had advertised for a number of years but never had any replies.

Workers supplied by the Ministry for Social Development often did not last more than a week, he said.

BlackPeter
15-11-2022, 09:11 AM
Lettuces ploughed back into the ground because of lack of seasonal workers and the completely useless NZ unemployables with MSD.

The clueless immigration policies of Ardern & her useless mob coming home to bite the cost of living crisis for NZers.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/130409703/no-workers-to-harvest-so-farmer-sacrifices-300000-heads-of-lettuce

A farmer has been forced to plough more than 300,000 heads of fresh lettuce into the ground because he cannot find enough workers to manually harvest them.

Fong said he had given up on local labour. He had advertised for a number of years but never had any replies.

Workers supplied by the Ministry for Social Development often did not last more than a week, he said.


Less people is great.

Auckland is already an overcrowded shambles we don't need it to trickle down into other city centres.


Never worry. Just remember - posters like Panda and an obliging Labour Party tell us there are already too many people in NZ. Aparantly less people is good. Who cares whether our farmers are still able to produce food? Neither xenophobes nor Labour will help. Must be somebody else's fault.

jonu
15-11-2022, 01:17 PM
Chris Trotter dropping Truth Bombs again.

https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/11/15/the-facts-dont-always-tell-the-truth/

Who would have thought Ardern would become so loathed by the Left as well as the Right? That's a very particular set of skills!

jonu
15-11-2022, 01:22 PM
So Cindy last week announced a 20 million dollar contribution to a damages fund for Climate change affected countries. This gave her the photo-op and brownie points without attending the COP27 talk fest in Egypt. Outstanding. Ardern PR 101. Superb.

Trouble is....a couple of days later NZ announced at the talkfest

“Establishing a fund without certainty around what that means would require high levels of confidence that we have a shared understanding of what we are working on, and how. Listening to the interventions, it doesn’t seem like we have this.

Oh dear, dear dear. Cindy giveth and she taketh away. Still got her photo-op though....so that'll fix the planet. I reckon she'll feel really warm and good inside having achieved something.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...4cc9c8e7dffa2d

BlackPeter
15-11-2022, 02:10 PM
Chris Trotter dropping Truth Bombs again.

https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/11/15/the-facts-dont-always-tell-the-truth/

Who would have thought Ardern would become so loathed by the Left as well as the Right? That's a very particular set of skills!

Hmm - no matter what one thinks of Jacinda Ardern - given that Chris Trotter seems to be so worried about assessing "the truth" in context am I a bit surprised about his Adolf Hitler example.

But you are right - he is bombing the truth. While I hardly watch or read from him - this drivel clearly won't do his reputation any good.

Panda-NZ-
15-11-2022, 03:27 PM
Never worry. Just remember - posters like Panda and an obliging Labour Party tell us there are already too many people in NZ. Aparantly less people is good. Who cares whether our farmers are still able to produce food? Neither xenophobes nor Labour will help. Must be somebody else's fault.

Temporary labourers in regional areas are obviously different than permanent migration.

BlackPeter
15-11-2022, 04:18 PM
Temporary labourers in regional areas are obviously different than permanent migration.

You mean hiring some working slaves and kicking them out again when we don't need them anymore is ok?

What a relief ...