Oh DEAR JOHN Tamihere.

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Todays NZ Herald reports JT is under investigation for using half a million dollars from charities, to finance his election campaigns.

Fiscal responsibility eh John?

Where can we make a donation, to your entitlement?

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The Maori Party website claims; 'Its a known fact that Maori genetic make up is stronger than some others"

Really?

Their bad health stats and life expectancy tell a different story.

JT's involvement with Waipaeira Trust and Maori Party is so incestuous, its no wonder they are acting like they are inbred!

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Can anyone explain why Maoris who have access to money in various organisations, think some of it is theirs for the taking?

Instead of; l must not speak Maori, Will Tame Iti's next production be;
l must not steal money?

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Can anyone explain why Maoris who have access to money in various organisations, think some of it is theirs for the taking?

Instead of; l must not speak Maori, Will Tame Iti's next production be;
l must not steal money?

(1) No they can't.
(2) No it won't.

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Leopards dont change their spots, do they ?

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Can anyone explain why Maoris who have access to money in various organisations, think some of it is theirs for the taking?

Instead of; l must not speak Maori, Will Tame Iti's next production be;
l must not steal money?

must be friendly loan job .. perhaps one of the ones that dont need paying back ? :)

A bit like Grant's grants jobs ? :)


Investigators may need to check whether the required sponsorship addendum was sewed on the specified
grundies to be worn for the required number of events :)

[davflaws]

Can anyone explain why Maoris who have access to money in various organisations, think some of it is theirs for the taking?

Unless you have evidence (corrected for the bias inherent in socio-economic class) that Maori are more likely to steal money than any other group - that is more racist nonsense.

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Unless you have evidence (corrected for the bias inherent in socio-economic class) that Maori are more likely to steal money than any other group - that is more racist nonsense.
I did not make the post flippantly

Disproportionate would be the necessary description.

For the low numbers of Maori who get to a position of control or access to money within an organization, they are disproportionately reported as having their 'hand in the till'.

Your sidestep will be to demand some statistics, knowing full well no one keeps them, apart from numbers in gaol.

[davflaws]

I did not make the post flippantly

Disproportionate would be the necessary description.

For the low numbers of Maori who get to a position of control or access to money within an organization, they are disproportionately reported as having their 'hand in the till'.

Your sidestep will be to demand some statistics, knowing full well no one keeps them, apart from numbers in gaol.

I did not believe you were being flippant, and I understood that your comment was about proportionality.

You acknowledge that there aren't any readily accessible statistics, but nevertheless claim that :-
1. There are low numbers of Maori with opportunity to embezzle organisaional funds
2. They are disproportionately represented among offenders

In the absence of data, these claims are based on your own impressions, and are frankly racist.

Your posts on this and other threads seem to demonstrate a general dislike/contempt for things Maori and a readiness to put the worst possible construction on any "fact" you can find.

All of us have our prejudices and blind spots. I think the world would be a better place if we remained conscious of and sensitive to the damage that parading them can do to our social fabric. In any given instance - not much - but cumulatively huge.

My impressions and prejudices come from my own (obviously different) experiences. More than 25 years ago I was jointly and individually responsible for managing contracts for the delivery of post compulsory educational programs on behalf of the Govt in a provincial area with a high Maori population. Over four years, scores of contracts involving about $60M, with renewal dependent on achieving specified outcomes were entered into with about thirty different organisations, slightly more than half Maori.

I closed (or failed to renew) six programs during my time managing contracts. Five of them were Maori, one Pakeha. All were closed for failure to achieve contracted outcomes. The only suggestion of financial shenanigans involved the Pakeha program.

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I have made my assertion, and stand by it.

Based on a lifetime of reading media reports, for public audiences.

lf you wish to disprove it, you produce your evidence.

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To address racist allegations, I see a whole generation of kids led to believe there is value in twirling a poi, and raising their heckles and blood pressure doing hakas.

In 40 years time or less, when people realise those warrior skills are not in great demand, and those who worked harder to gain more meaningful skills are taxed sh!tless to subsidise the unemployable culture brigade, so leave the country, thereby causing Aotearoa to implode.

Then the wise ones may say why didn't Getty and some others wrongfully deemed to be racist, say something back in 2022?

Something to stop the great leap backwards, while the rest of the world moved forward.

Well I am taking my opportunity now.

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To address racist allegations, I see a whole generation of kids led to believe there is value in twirling a poi, and raising their heckles and blood pressure doing hakas.

In 40 years time or less, when people realise those warrior skills are not in great demand, and those who worked harder to gain more meaningful skills are taxed sh!tless to subsidise the unemployable culture brigade, so leave the country, thereby causing Aotearoa to implode.

Then the wise ones may say why didn't Getty and some others wrongfully deemed to be racist, say something back in 2022?

Something to stop the great leap backwards, while the rest of the world moved forward.

Well I am taking my opportunity now.



One man sent the following similar thoughts to the PM.



Prime Minister,

I was appalled to hear on the 7pm News on TV1 on Tuesday 27 December the most patronising claim being made by TV1 that presenters’ use of Maori phrases on TV is becoming accepted, offering as evidence that fewer complaints are being received. What would you expect when NO COMPLAINT correspondence IS EVER RESPONDED TO by TV1; by YOU - the Prime Minister; by the Deputy Prime Minister or by Kris Faafoi , the Minister of Broadcasting — and NO CHANGES ever made in response to complaints, other than perhaps an intensification of the use of these Maori phrases. “PATRONISING” is perhaps not even a strong enough word !

I think ridiculously absurd comments such as were made are insulting in the extreme to a public who are fed up to the back teeth with having “Maori “ foist on them every evening and rammed down their throats by media presenters who are obviously acting under what are ultimately political instructions. The whole approach is dictatorial and childish.

Prime Minister, Maori is a language without meaningful utility in New Zealand. It is even spoken by VERY FEW Maori. IT IS OF ZERO UTILITY INTERNATIONALLY. Language is about communication. ENGLISH is our language of communication in New Zealand. It is also easily the MAJOR language of communication throughout the world. It is the official international language of law, science and commerce. Maori is NONE of these things — and VERY MUCH LESS.

It is even more absurd to think that YOU and your Government are looking to make the teaching and learning of Maori mandatory in our schools. What on earth is the point of that? It is ludicrous when all it is doing is stopping our children from learning alternative subject options of much, much greater utility in their future lives.

Prime Minister, it is clear that SOLELY for political purposes you are YET AGAIN pandering to a section of Maoridom — in particular the in-caucus/ in-cabinet activists and their elitist-activist colleagues outside of Parliament, who, like you, are bent on the Maorification of New Zealand and the effective destruction of our democratic system and democracy in favour of effective Maori rule.

Prime Minister, it is clear that you NEVER listen to or take any notice of anyone else, other than your activist colleagues. It is also clear that you have the conceit to believe you are the only one in the country with any brains. YOU ARE NOT! You are in fact lacking any sense of the responsibility of duty expected of the incumbent in your office and you are governing solely to satisfy your OWN PERSONAL, obsessively held, idiosyncratic beliefs to do with the Maorification of New Zealand, to the TOTAL DETRIMENT of our country and all other New Zealanders.


Hugh Perrett

027 520 4141

Hugh Perrett is a member of NZ Business Hall Of Fame.

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I have made my assertion, and stand by it.

Based on a lifetime of reading media reports, for public audiences.

lf you wish to disprove it, you produce your evidence. I am interested to how you can discern the ethnicity of the parties referred to in media reports. Joe Bloggs could be any race. Your Getty estimation may be too low. Also there is the possibility of bias-confirmation. A Maori sounding name stays registered in your memory as bias-confirmation. Perhaps your assertion relies just on those reports with a photo? They are Just a couple of possible disclaimers to append to your empirical claim.

Also interesting but jut about impossible to know would be whether or not fraud cases involving Maori are more likely to be reported and to make it to court, compared with fraud cases involving non-Maori.

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Great letter by Hugh Perrett.

Thanks for sharing fp.

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I am interested to how you can discern the ethnicity of the parties referred to in media reports. Joe Bloggs could be any race. Your Getty estimation may be too low. Also there is the possibility of bias-confirmation. A Maori sounding name stays registered in your memory as bias-confirmation. Perhaps your assertion relies just on those reports with a photo? They are Just a couple of possible disclaimers to append to your empirical claim.


Also interesting but jut about impossible to know would be whether or not fraud cases involving Maori are more likely to be reported and to make it to court, compared with fraud cases involving non-Maori.

To use fictitious names;

Joe Moananui Bloggs most likely is Maori.
Tame Potae Iti is Maori.
William Jones is presumed non Maori, unless l know him.

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Did anyone, including davflaws, see The Hui, TV3 today?

Any comments?

Particularly on what the lady with scarlet red hair said.

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This from Audrey Young’s weekly Political Briefing:

“Brickbat: Jointly awarded this week to the Māori Party's Rawiri Waititi and NZ First's Winston Peters. On a visit to Britain, Waititi described the Commonwealth as a terrorist organisation; “

I wonder if that idiot Waititi was on a taxpayer funded trip
He’s a disgrace to NZ