Ardern Broken Promises Costing lives

[Balance]

A miserly $21m to extend breast cancer screening to save up to 65 lives a year but Ardern broke her 2017 promise to implement it.

She has plenty of money though to give 'cost of living' payments to overseas recipients (est $30m) and $56m to throw away at the abandoned cycle bridge for Auckland.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/labour-partys-broken-breast-cancer-screening-promise-costing-lives-critics-say/SKU24BPXGB2OFKMUZWXVWCMX2A/

Excerpt :

"Andrea Dorn had been a faithful National Party supporter until 2017 when Labour promised to extend free breast cancer screening for women up to 74 years old.

Her mother, Audrey, was diagnosed with breast cancer later in life so when Jacinda Ardern's party committed to the extension that could save up to 65 lives a year, Andrea turned red and voted Labour.

"In 2016, the Breast Cancer Foundation NZ presented a 10,000-signature petition to Ardern to extend free screening and it was later included as one of five health priorities in the 2017 coalition document agreed by Labour and New Zealand First. Despite its priority status, the extension had not been implemented."

[justakiwi]

There is literally no need for this to be a new thread. Take it to the other two threads you already have for your Jacinda bashing!

[Balance]

There is literally no need for this to be a new thread. Take it to the other two threads you already have for your Jacinda bashing!

To be expected from you, JAK - open your eyes and take on the truth.

But I forget - you cannot handle the truth.

[Balance]

Remember how Ardern & Labour were going to fix the Mental Health 'Crisis'?

Well, they threw money at it with their usual reckless spending with no accountability or transparency and the net result is yet another broken system, costing lives.

Have a look at how bad the situation has become under Ardern - 45% increase in anti-depressants prescribed to 15 - 24 years old and 59% increase for 5 - 14 years old.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/resizer/R0TqRp5gzSjOq5QeqPlJOyUDTOk=/1440x1868/smart/filters:quality(70)/cloudfront-ap-southeast-2.images.arcpublishing.com/nzme/J5D4K36EKOFSTCRT4A2QKINT6A.jpg

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/great-minds-family-leaves-nz-to-get-mental-health-care-for-teen-daughter/NWDAFGGCPXFECBEOYQW26WLWL4/

Excerpt :

"Government documents and data obtained by the Herald reveal there have been significant increases in the past two years in the numbers of young people presenting to EDs after self-harm or suicide attempts and experiencing acute, complex conditions such as anxiety and eating disorders."

"They bounced between an understaffed public system that is overburdened with children even more acutely unwell than Lucy, and a private market that is also desperately short of the expertise needed to help young people with complex conditions."

"They took her to their family doctor, who referred Lucy to a private psychiatrist and psychologist. The waiting list for the psychologist was five weeks. The wait to see the psychiatrist was five months."

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Feel honoured Balance.

JAK stated she put the bad boys on ignore.

You obviously didn't get on the list.

Or maybe you were, but absence made Jak's heart fonder.

[justakiwi]

Correct. He is on ignore. But sadly, that doesn't stop his completely unnecessary new thread, from showing up. All it does it clutter the forum up with multiple threads discussing the same thing. So yes, I replied to his post to express that. Didn't need to take him off ignore to do that.

Welcome to my ignore list.


Feel honoured Balance.

JAK stated she put the bad boys on ignore.

You obviously didn't get on the list.

Or maybe you were, but absence made Jak's heart fonder.

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Any chance of that ignore list being published, so we can add it to our CV's?

[BDL]

Correct. He is on ignore. But sadly, that doesn't stop his completely unnecessary new thread, from showing up. All it does it clutter the forum up with multiple threads discussing the same thing. So yes, I replied to his post to express that. Didn't need to take him off ignore to do that.

Welcome to my ignore list.

If your ignore list is just for people who are sick of the Labour/Jacinda lies then I don't mind going on it as well.......

[justakiwi]

Nah. It doesn't discriminate. People of all political affiliations are welcome. So far, you don't meet the brief sorry.



If your ignore list is just for people who are sick of the Labour/Jacinda lies then I don't mind going on it as well.......

[nztx]

Nah. It doesn't discriminate. People of all political affiliations are welcome. So far, you don't meet the brief sorry.


If the list gets too long, be careful not to break the site programming :)

[Balance]

A heathcare system collapsing due to gross mismanagement by Ardern as well as her broken promises.

21,000 nurses needed and only 12 arrived after 3 months of the immigration reset!

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/10/revealed-just-12-nurses-have-arrived-in-new-zealand-under-government-s-controversial-residency-visa.html

[Blue Skies]

A heathcare system collapsing due to gross mismanagement by Ardern as well as her broken promises.

21,000 nurses needed and only 12 arrived after 3 months of the immigration reset!

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/10/revealed-just-12-nurses-have-arrived-in-new-zealand-under-government-s-controversial-residency-visa.html


Australia are also in a Healthcare crisis as is the UK Healthcare collapsing as well.
"In the 8 years since Health Workforce Australia was decommissioned in 2014, theres been absolutely no reasonable workforce planning" says ANMF Federal secretary Ms Butler.
Australia can't even put a figure on the numbers they're short at the moment its been so badly mismanaged but projections say they will need between 85,000 - 100,000 more nurses by 2025.

Healthcare crisis everywhere might have something to do with a global pandemic which no country prepared for.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-22/nursing-shortage-on-the-cards-due-to-pandemic/101253058

[Balance]

Excuses and more excuses.

Whatever happened to competence and forward planning?

[ynot]

Australia are also in a Healthcare crisis as is the UK Healthcare collapsing as well.
"In the 8 years since Health Workforce Australia was decommissioned in 2014, theres been absolutely no reasonable workforce planning" says ANMF Federal secretary Ms Butler.
Australia can't even put a figure on the numbers they're short at the moment its been so badly mismanaged but projections say they will need between 85,000 - 100,000 more nurses by 2025.

Healthcare crisis everywhere might have something to do with a global pandemic which no country prepared for.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-22/nursing-shortage-on-the-cards-due-to-pandemic/101253058

Our healthcare was stuffed before the pandemic. More facts, less BS BS.

[Blue Skies]

Our healthcare was stuffed before the pandemic. More facts, less BS BS.


I wouldn't have put it that way myself, but you have a point, National's Minister of Health Jonathan Coleman came in for some of the most vicious criticism for the severe underfunding of the health system for the 9 years National were in govt. Left huge problems for the incoming coalition govt.
The Health system is massive, bigger than the dairy industry & you can't fix a system like that overnight & then along came the pandemic.

There are obviously huge discrepancies in the standards of care & health services available in different areas of the country & Labours Health reforms will be attempting to fix this.
They've also made the largest increase ever in funding for PHARMAC allowing patients to access some amazing treatments & drugs which were unfunded under National.

[Balance]

Garbage as usual from BS.

Absolute garbage.

[tim23]

Excuses and more excuses.

Whatever happened to competence and forward planning?
Planning is about the future so no need to frame it as forward planning. That’s corporate gobbligook 😀

[Balance]

Planning is about the future so no need to frame it as forward planning. That’s corporate gobbligook 😀

And that’s now recorded for all to see - how Ardern devotees have no idea of what forward planning is about just like the clueless and useless Ardern.

No wonder Ardern has been creating disasters out of problems.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/forward-planning

[Balance]

Self explanatory :

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/476874/hospital-wait-time-issues-are-systemic-say-healthcare-specialists

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https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/476874/hospital-wait-time-issues-are-systemic-say-healthcare-specialists

What the hell is a Te Tari Rongoaa Ohoroere?

The wrong house of horrors?

Imagine someone trying to look that up in the phone book, just after they've cut their nose off to spite their face?

Tumeke!

[westerly]

[QUOTE=Balance;978682]And that’s now recorded for all to see - how Ardern devotees have no idea of what forward planning is about just like the clueless and useless Ardern.

No wonder Ardern has been creating disasters out of problems.

[I am quite sure the PM has no input into All Black tactics. Perhaps you are the useless clueless one ?

westewrly

[Balance]

[QUOTE=Balance;978682]And that’s now recorded for all to see - how Ardern devotees have no idea of what forward planning is about just like the clueless and useless Ardern.

No wonder Ardern has been creating disasters out of problems.

[I am quite sure the PM has no input into All Black tactics. Perhaps you are the useless clueless one ?

westewrly

Not a joking matter when lives have been lost due to her negligence.

[tim23]

[QUOTE=westerly;979475]

Not a joking matter when lives have been lost due to her negligence.

Ardern followers may plan but no need to forward plan - you are a slow learner on that score but no surprises there.

[Balance]

Ardern & Little too busy playing politics and implementing centralisation (communism) & divisive race policies to properly take care of the day to day needs of hospitals :

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/ldr/477063/te-whatu-ora-criticised-for-lack-of-action-over-middlemore-s-dysfunctional-ed

Disgusting woman = Ardern causing deaths

[tim23]

Ardern & Little too busy playing politics and implementing centralisation (communism) & divisive race policies to properly take care of the day to day needs of hospitals :

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/ldr/477063/te-whatu-ora-criticised-for-lack-of-action-over-middlemore-s-dysfunctional-ed

Disgusting woman = Ardern causing deaths
Why say disgusting woman - her sex has nothing to do with anything you are a pathetic sexist and you know it

[Balance]

Ardern's healthcare reforms :

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/52aca146e4b06d986ca82df3/1665516919908-KOKLDQVIVYJ0BY34KNEQ/waiting+lists.jpg?format=500w

[dobby41]

Suicides down - changes working.

[Balance]

COVID deaths up.

And the silence from the COVID Queen Ardern is deafening - just like her deafening silence over the Iranian women being harassed, brutalised, raped and murdered for refusing to wear the hijab, symbol of oppression of Muslim women.

[Blue Skies]

COVID deaths up.

And the silence from the COVID Queen Ardern is deafening - just like her deafening silence over the Iranian women being harassed, brutalised, raped and murdered for refusing to wear the hijab, symbol of oppression of Muslim women.


Obviously you haven't kept up with the news.

There was a very good reason for the PM's silence, 2 Kiwi idiot self important Social Media Influencers ignored official advice to stay out of Iran, went in & were taken hostage by the authorities.
Foreign Affairs had been trying to secure their release & have only just succeeded.
Another 19 Kiwi's are still in Iran.
When you are dealing with regimes which ignore fundamental human rights & holding hostages, you don't provoke the Ayatollahs if you want to get your people out alive.

It must be irritating for the PM to have to silently suffer completely unfounded criticisms from people ignorant of the situation & not be able to respond without risking the lives of the fools who put themselves in harms way & went there against official advice.

[Balance]

The experience has “terrified” Docherty, who worries her family won’t receive necessary medical attention if they were in need.

“I can see in the news, people are already dying because of these sorts of situations happening. More people will die because of this,” she said.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/christchurch-girl-in-absolute-pain-waits-four-hours-at-hospital-given-panadol-before-leaving/ESUSI5O5UJCSFG4B723YDJXZD4/

[whatsup]

IMHO the red witch will not be interviewed by 1ZB , Mike Hoskins because he asks too many hard questions that require correct/truthful answers which she is not prepared to give and this is from the " most honest, open, truthful govt that N Z has ever had " !!!!

[jonu]

IMHO the red witch will not be interviewed by 1XB , Mike Hoskins because he asks too many hard questions that require correct/truthful answers which she is not prepared to give and this is from the " most honest, open, truthful govt that N Z has ever had " !!!!

I absolutely refute the premise of your assertion!

[whatsup]

I absolutely refute the premise of your assertion!

Check it out , there has been NO interview with her for months of this year, ask Hoskins and he will tell you, they also run a public ann to this effect !!

[blackcap]

Check it out , there has been NO interview with her for months of this year, ask Hoskins and he will tell you, they also run a public ann to this effect !!

If she is not careful and things keep spiraling out of control she may end up getting the Nicolae Ceaușescu treatment. Now we would not want that would we.

[davflaws]

If she is not careful and things keep spiraling out of control she may end up getting the Nicolae Ceaușescu treatment. Now we would not want that would we.

So why bring in Ceausescu? I think your post is a Nudge nudge - wink wink - thinly disguised toying with the idea that the PM is on the road to assassination.

Withdraw, apologise, and acknowledge you have gone too far.

[fizzletop]

The similarities between Ardern and Ceaușescu are striking so therefore relevant. Given a little time the appalling legacy Ardern will leave means that there is no doubt she will end up living abroad.

[westerly]

IMHO the red witch will not be interviewed by 1ZB , Mike Hoskins because he asks too many hard questions that require correct/truthful answers which she is not prepared to give and this is from the " most honest, open, truthful govt that N Z has ever had " !!!!

IMHO good on her. Who would want to talk to Hoskins. Just another radio announcer lacking any credibility.

westerly

[Baa_Baa]

IMHO good on her. Who would want to talk to Hoskins. Just another radio announcer lacking any credibility.

westerly

ZB Breakfast host Mike Hosking won the Sir Paul Holmes Broadcaster of the Year Award (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new-zealand-radio-awards-nzme-dominates-newstalk-zb-wins-station-of-the-year-mike-hosking-and-heather-du-plessis-allan-among-big-winners/OVIBJITYFUXTI6LGCSA255NOWU/) - for the third time in his career

You don't get that if you have no listeners or credibility, so if you're a politician not on the Hosking show, you're forsaking an enormous pool of listeners. He has a knack for making the schmoozers squirm and appear awkward, as for the liars, well they just get a full on ripping.

[Balance]

IMHO good on her. Who would want to talk to Hoskins. Just another radio announcer lacking any credibility.

westerly

Ardern = your one source of truth. We understand that. 🤣

[ynot]

Her TV station TVNZ did her no favours on the six o'clock news tonight. The ice she is standing on is beginning to melt. Come the election next year she will be swimming for her life.

[Blue Skies]

ZB Breakfast host Mike Hosking won the Sir Paul Holmes Broadcaster of the Year Award (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new-zealand-radio-awards-nzme-dominates-newstalk-zb-wins-station-of-the-year-mike-hosking-and-heather-du-plessis-allan-among-big-winners/OVIBJITYFUXTI6LGCSA255NOWU/) - for the third time in his career

You don't get that if you have no listeners or credibility, so if you're a politician not on the Hosking show, you're forsaking an enormous pool of listeners. He has a knack for making the schmoozers squirm and appear awkward, as for the liars, well they just get a full on ripping.


These Radio Awards are just a big w#nkfest, it's just the radio industry people giving themselves awards & many stations/ hosts don't even bother submitting entries (which are time consuming to produce) & they tend to rotate them amongst those who do.
Hoskins is not a journalist, he's a unfortunately a poorly educated but bright right wing shock jock on a commercial Talkback station which has no real competition in that format (now Radio Live has gone).
ZB management demand their hosts to be strongly opinionated because conflict & discontent drives ratings which delivers listeners to the endless advertisements which pay their salaries & comfortable lifestyles.
It doesn't even pretend to be an objective neutral source of informed comment.
It's strongly right wing, look at past hosts like climate denier Leighton Smith who continues to push conspiracy theories on his podcasts.

Popularity has never been a measure of credibility or value, I'm sure KFC & white bread sells far more than salmon & salad, doesn't mean its better for you!

Adern was not going to allow Hoskins to exploit her with his constant provocation to drive his ratings.
He was not interested in a sensible conversation, Talkback radio thrives on conflict & discontent, & there's always an audience for that.
Adern has a couple of million followers on social media & is regularly on other main stream media.

[Baa_Baa]

I'm not all that interested in the Labour apologists as I'd expect from them a put down to everything anyone says that questions their political party's relevance and lack of achievement.

Their blind bias and as it turns out, ill founded faith, undermines their credibility and personal failure to even acknowledge, let alone consider an alternative point of view.

But the fact remains, Adern withered under the Hoskings interviews, she had no come back and got flustered and frustrated, so decided to avoid being questioned at all. She ran away from valid scrutiny.

Perhaps had she put up good arguments, solid reasoning and debate as to why Hosking was wrong with what he was saying, then she could have owned the audience and made Hosking look like the fool.

The opposite happened though, she ran away from criticism and failed to leverage the massive audience of ZB radio.

[ynot]

These Radio Awards are just a big w#nkfest, it's just the radio industry people giving themselves awards & many stations/ hosts don't even bother submitting entries (which are time consuming to produce) & they tend to rotate them amongst those who do.
Hoskins is not a journalist, he's a unfortunately a poorly educated but bright right wing shock jock on a commercial Talkback station which has no real competition in that format (now Radio Live has gone).
ZB management demand their hosts to be strongly opinionated because conflict & discontent drives ratings which delivers listeners to the endless advertisements which pay their salaries & comfortable lifestyles.
It doesn't even pretend to be an objective neutral source of informed comment.
It's strongly right wing, look at past hosts like climate denier Leighton Smith who continues to push conspiracy theories on his podcasts.

Popularity has never been a measure of credibility or value, I'm sure KFC & white bread sells far more than salmon & salad, doesn't mean its better for you!

Adern was not going to allow Hoskins to exploit her with his constant provocation to drive his ratings.
He was not interested in a sensible conversation, Talkback radio thrives on conflict & discontent, & there's always an audience for that.
Adern has a couple of million followers on social media & is regularly on other main stream media.

I agree with you to a point on Hoskings and what drives talkback radio, however the sheep that follow her on social media are no feather in her cap. She avoids hard questions like the plague. That is because she is fundamentally dishonest and is incapable of facing true scrutiny.

[whatsup]

Her TV station TVNZ did her no favours on the six o'clock news tonight. The ice she is standing on is beginning to melt. Come the election next year she will be swimming for her life.

The witch shouldnt be there in the first, if it wasnt for that ma$$ot where should she be ? back in the only job that she had before the political freebe, in the fish and chip shop watching out incase a ram raider comes calling !!

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She would have to upskill

.
One of the TV presenters orders 2 fish and a battered sausage.

Hope that order is not too diverse for 2f 1c Cinders.

[tim23]

ZB Breakfast host Mike Hosking won the Sir Paul Holmes Broadcaster of the Year Award (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/new-zealand-radio-awards-nzme-dominates-newstalk-zb-wins-station-of-the-year-mike-hosking-and-heather-du-plessis-allan-among-big-winners/OVIBJITYFUXTI6LGCSA255NOWU/) - for the third time in his career

You don't get that if you have no listeners or credibility, so if you're a politician not on the Hosking show, you're forsaking an enormous pool of listeners. He has a knack for making the schmoozers squirm and appear awkward, as for the liars, well they just get a full on ripping.
Newstalk ZB the unofficial PR machine for the National Party. And to think Hosking was used as a moderator in political leader’s debate - its farcical.

[Baa_Baa]

Newstalk ZB the unofficial PR machine for the National Party. And to think Hosking was used as a moderator in political leader’s debate - its farcical.

Hosking consistently took the PM apart, she had nothing except the exchanging of Xmas gifts :eek2: Here, you can enjoy them all over again (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mike+hosking+interview+with+j acinda+ardern).

This was after she permanently cancelled her regular interviews:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKRkLrU0S2Y

[FTG]

It's hard to forget the Hosking interview where the PM actually took herself apart.
It was a tad tragic for the PM....

Unfortunately, her understanding of what 'GDP' meant was found to be significantly wanting. Superficial at best. That interview, amongst others, was probably the beginning of the end for her regular appearances on Newstalk ZB.

[ynot]

I agree with you to a point on Hoskings and what drives talkback radio, however the sheep that follow her on social media are no feather in her cap. She avoids hard questions like the plague. That is because she is fundamentally dishonest and is incapable of facing true scrutiny.

Second thoughts here Blue Skies on my Hoskings comment..
If the likes of Hoskings does not ask her the hard questions, Who will ! She is supposedly running the country after all !

[fungus pudding]

Second thoughts here Blue Skies on my Hoskings comment..
If the likes of Hoskings does not ask her the hard questions, Who will ! She is supposedly running the country after all !

I never heard Hosking ask her anything unreasonable - what seemed to irritate her, was he would persist until he got an answer.

[Blue Skies]

Second thoughts here Blue Skies on my Hoskings comment..
If the likes of Hoskings does not ask her the hard questions, Who will ! She is supposedly running the country after all !


Am not sure if this is a serious question but if you're interested, here's a link to the Parliamentary Press Gallery listing all the many journalists representing many different media organisations who get to question the PM.

There's also of course the Opposition MP's & the Leader of the Opposition in Parliament who are supposed to ask the hard questions & I would really recommend you watch some of the Question times, Luxon really struggles & often looks under prepared against Adern who has an extraordinary grasp of detail & policy.

Then there's the many various hosts on Radio & TV, people like Susie Ferguson, Kathryn Ryan, Kim Hill, Jack Tame, Ryan Bridge, Melissa Chan-Green, Mike McRoberts etc



https://www.parliament.nz/en/get-involved/information-for-the-press/press-gallery/

[ynot]

[QUOTE=Blue Skies;984031]Am not sure if this is a serious question but if you're interested, here's a link to the Parliamentary Press Gallery listing all the many journalists representing many different media organisations who get to question the PM.



Then there's the many various hosts on Radio & TV, people like Susie Ferguson, Kathryn Ryan, Kim Hill, Jack Tame, Ryan Bridge, Melissa Chan-Green, Mike McRoberts etc


Ok, but answer me this, If the list of media above ask her the hard difficult questions, why will she not front Hoskings.

[tim23]

[QUOTE=Blue Skies;984031]Am not sure if this is a serious question but if you're interested, here's a link to the Parliamentary Press Gallery listing all the many journalists representing many different media organisations who get to question the PM.



Then there's the many various hosts on Radio & TV, people like Susie Ferguson, Kathryn Ryan, Kim Hill, Jack Tame, Ryan Bridge, Melissa Chan-Green, Mike McRoberts etc


Ok, but answer me this, If the list of media above ask her the hard difficult questions, why will she not front Hoskings.
Maybe she thinks he a goose so she chooses not to.

[ynot]

[QUOTE=ynot;984033]
Maybe she thinks he a goose so she chooses not to.

I was talking to the organ grinder Tim.

[Balance]

Wow!!!

It has finally come to the notice of the spin mistress that burglaries and robberies in NZ are out of control.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/cabinet-to-discuss-burglaries-crime-prevention-after-sandringham-shopkeeper-death-65k-raised-for-grieving-family/CC4FUJQJGJG6TKZMYZEZGFJG6Q/

After a dairy worker is knifed to death after a robbery.

What a proactive perceptive and kind PM
Ardern is!!!!

[Balance]

Bare faced liar = Ardern.

Measures announced today after cabinet meeting to counter ram raids and robberies NOT because of the death of the dairy worker in her electorate - from the self-proclaimed one source of truth, cynical Cindy.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/explained-why-the-sandringham-dairy-where-a-man-was-killed-didnt-qualify-for-a-fog-cannon/WDVU6EBMAJCMRELGMZ5XISQW2U/

Takes deaths and disasters before she does anything, so pre-occupied is Ardern with implementing her racist & divisive policies to get Maori votes.

[tim23]

[QUOTE=tim23;984037]

I was talking to the organ grinder Tim.

Does that make you the monkey?

[Baa_Baa]

Does that make you the monkey?

Figure out how to use the 'quote' function without deleting the important [ ] otherwise as you'll see, you have attributed yourself to a quote when in fact it was someone else's quote.

[Balance]

What a damning indictment of Clueless Ardern & her mob of useless ministers for a top Cop to make such a comment today:

"These people are now out of control. Their violence is escalating,” Waikato Police District Commander Superintendent Bruce Bird said.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/130802195/youth-criminals-out-of-control-says-top-cop-as-police-shot-at-homes-and-shops-invaded