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Entrep
27-01-2023, 03:42 PM
I have a newborn and received some money for him. Rather than sticking it in term deposit until he is 16/18, I thought why not give him a Sharesies account (they have them for kids) and buy 1-2 stocks.

I'd also like to get him into investing young, and give him a better start than I got in that regard.

Which stocks would you think in such circumstances? I am thinking as aggressive as possible, so long as it doesn't go to zero. That would be an embarrassing story to tell him when he's old enough.

Maybe SKO (aggressive) and ARV (stop it going to zero). MFT and SUM were other considerations.

epower
27-01-2023, 03:53 PM
I have a newborn and received some money for him. Rather than sticking it in term deposit until he is 16/18, I thought why not give him a Sharesies account (they have them for kids) and buy 1-2 stocks.

I'd also like to get him into investing young, and give him a better start than I got in that regard.

Which stocks would you think in such circumstances? I am thinking as aggressive as possible, so long as it doesn't go to zero. That would be an embarrassing story to tell him when he's old enough.

Maybe SKO (aggressive) and ARV (stop it going to zero). MFT and SUM were other considerations.

Superlife, Juno or Simplicity have got options for funds for kids otherwise for an individual stock pick it really shouldn’t be any different from if you are picking it yourself. If it’s a good company at a reasonable price shouldn’t matter if you are buying it in your name or your sons.

Perhaps to get him interested (my kids are 3 and 2) you could pick a company that is local. Eg if you are in Auckland then the airport, retirement villages, REITs, etc so you can drive past and say “that’s your business look at that cool new runway you are helping build”

Rawz
27-01-2023, 04:01 PM
I have a newborn and received some money for him. Rather than sticking it in term deposit until he is 16/18, I thought why not give him a Sharesies account (they have them for kids) and buy 1-2 stocks.

I'd also like to get him into investing young, and give him a better start than I got in that regard.

Which stocks would you think in such circumstances? I am thinking as aggressive as possible, so long as it doesn't go to zero. That would be an embarrassing story to tell him when he's old enough.

Maybe SKO (aggressive) and ARV (stop it going to zero). MFT and SUM were other considerations.

I have a 6 month old and if I was to do something similar it would have to be S&P500. Boring I know but its proven and a large % of the companies that make up the index earn huge international income so its effectively a global etf.

Over 18 years let the compounding magic work.

The problem with picking any stock even the very best ones is you still need to monitor them. Look at the top companies 20 years ago and they will be completely different from today's top companies.

So as a set and forget with a 18 year timeframe its a boring ETF for me.

Walter
27-01-2023, 04:15 PM
I put $50 a month into fnz for my kids. It was about $30k when they turned 18.

alokdhir
27-01-2023, 04:30 PM
I will suggest KFL with DRP on for any super long term investment ...it does much better then FNZ ...U can check from past records ...

stoploss
27-01-2023, 04:56 PM
Have been down this route. Personally found the best thing to do was have it in a managed fund to spread the risk.

Cottagestyles
27-01-2023, 11:26 PM
Sharesies new fees may be an issue if drip feeding a little amount.
Fully agree with others about a long term set and forget index based approach.
Have set up my kids almost from birth with regular inputs going to InvestNow into "Vanguard International Shares". A low key quiet consistent earner that will be there for them at 18 to make some serious decisions with.
Am now getting into "pocket money" years at 7&9 years old however, so while am contining contributing to their "newborn" fund they're starting to appreciate how money works now.
A bit off-topic but loving introducing to them at the moment how to divide their "allowance" into three pots...
- everyday spending
- saving
- investing
Short personal opinion here is get an index fund of choice started first thing and keep it going. Then later on, when they're old enough to be interested, add on some share/etf/fund investment ideas with their input. Fun times 😊

Rawz
28-01-2023, 11:41 AM
If you want to put a portion into a risky etf with huge upside potential I would go with a Poland etf like EPOL.

I believe Poland will become a global voice and power. Have more influence in the EU and their economy will outperform its peers

Perky
28-01-2023, 02:00 PM
Firstly, good on you for doing this. You probably ahead of 90% of most people.

some good thoughts here by other posters

My personal thoughts would be a very low fee etf . Maybe kernel or simplicity offer are 2 low cost providers.

Looking at the past 20 yrs you’d probably go us500 etf on performance.


Looking forward 20 yrs things may be different. I’d consider some emerging market exposure like India, Africa, South east Asia. These markets will develop much like China today vs China 20 yrs ago so maybe a Total world fund would get some exposure to both usa and emerging.

Someone mentioned thematics. Much like last decade has been tech driven…maybe next 10 will be decarbonisation, AI and automation, cyber security driven but these are quite speculative and you probably getting some exposure through a us 500 or twf anyway..

I’d consider us 500, total world fund or global top 100 as the core etf.
If you had a reasonable amount of money you could bring in a small allocation to the emerging markets or a thematic you believe in.

Good luck deciding and please post what you decide

iceman
28-01-2023, 03:59 PM
I'm with Raws and Perky. I've done this for my grandchildren and put in small equal amounts into S&P500 Vanguard ETF (VOO) & S&P 500 Value Vanguard (VOOV). Not saying they are better than other ETF''s but easy and cheap to invest in through Hatch and Smartshares in my view. Have no view on Sharesies as I've never used them.

Baa_Baa
28-01-2023, 04:59 PM
Try this, for amazement or amusement: https://chat.openai.com/chat

For the question:
"What would the best types of investments be for parents investing on behalf of their very young children?"

Answer:
"The best types of investments for parents investing on behalf of their very young children would depend on several factors, such as the child's age, the investment horizon, and the parents' risk tolerance. However, generally speaking, some good options to consider include:

1. Mutual Funds or Exchange-Traded Funds (ETFs): These types of investments offer diversification and professional management, which can help to minimize risk. They can also provide exposure to a wide range of stocks, bonds, and other securities, which can help to balance the portfolio.

2. Bonds: Bonds are considered less risky than stocks, as they are issued by governments or companies and promise to pay a fixed rate of interest and return the principal upon maturity. They can provide a steady stream of income, which can be useful for long-term goals such as education expenses.

3. Index Funds: Index funds are a type of mutual fund or ETF that tracks a particular stock market index, such as the S&P 500. They can be a low-cost, passive investment option that can provide broad market exposure.

4. U.S Savings Bond: US Savings Bonds are considered low-risk, low-return investments that are backed by the US government. They can be a good option for parents who want to save for their children's future while minimizing risk.

5. Real Estate Investment Trust (REITs): REITs are companies that own and operate real estate properties, such as apartments, office buildings, or shopping centers. They can provide exposure to the real estate market and can be a good option for long-term investment horizon.

It is important to note that the best investment for parents investing on behalf of their very young children would be a diversified portfolio that aligns with their investment horizon and risk tolerance. It's also important to seek professional financial advice, read and understand the prospectus and the management of the fund you're about to invest in."

CD_CHCH
29-01-2023, 09:09 AM
We started a Kiwisaver fund for our boys when they were born and selected an aggressive fund. Theory being that there may be no pension by the time they retire and starting early means time and compounding interest is on their side.

Chose Juno Funds as there were no fees until 18 years of age (since changed and is now no fees until 10 years of age)

peetter
29-01-2023, 12:29 PM
I recently started to do Smartshares US 500 for my newborn through InvestNow. I chose InvestNow under my name. I do not want something I have to hand over to the kid at 18. I will not give him huge ammount of money if I'm not sure he is financialy responsible. I'm planning to give it to him the moment he saves up for home deposit, hoping it'll be enough to at least half his mortgage.

To the ones doing KS... I think it isn't smart decision. There's no advantage compared to ETF or mutual funds and you or your kid can't touch the money, which just doesn't sit well with me.

777
29-01-2023, 12:58 PM
Got this today which may be interest.

https://www.goodreturns.co.nz/article/976521249/how-are-you-treating-your-18-21-year-olds.html?utm_source=GR&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=%5BWeekly+Wrap%5D+A+much+tougher+FMA+ emerges