ELECTION POLL: 1 week till the election!

[justakiwi]

Final poll - please add your vote for the last time.

[Baa_Baa]

Results to the beginning of the final week before election.

14775







5weeks
4weeks
5->4 +/-
3weeks
5->3 +/-
2weeks
5->2 +/-


National

21.43%


25.64%


4.21%


20.00%


-1.43%


19.51%


-1.92%



Labour

4.76%


2.56%


-2.20%


5.77%


1.01%


4.88%


0.12%



ACT

40.48%


35.90%


-4.58%


42.86%


2.38%


43.90%


3.42%



Greens

2.30%


7.69%


5.39%


0.00%


-2.30%


0.00%


-2.30%



Maori

9.52%


2.56%


-6.96%


2.86%


-6.66%


2.44%


-7.08%



NZF

0.00%


2.56%


2.56%


11.43%


11.43%


12.20%


12.20%



TOP

11.90%


15.38%


3.48%


14.29%


2.39%


14.63%


2.73%



Other

0.00%


0.00%


0.00%


0.00%


0.00%


0.00%


0.00%



Undecided

4.76%


5.13%


0.37%


0.00%


-4.76%


0.00%


-4.76%



Not voting

4.76%


2.56%


-2.20%


2.86%


-1.90%


1.00%


-3.76%



Voters

42


39






35






41

[justakiwi]

Interesting to see a higher vote for NZF than I anticipated (percentage wise). But also, no "undecided" votes so far.

[justakiwi]

And now TOP has overtaken NZF. Yes, I know this is a “meaningless” poll which is not representative of the general population, but who knows - maybe it will be.

[BlackPeter]

Results to the beginning of the final week before election.

14775







5weeks
4weeks
5->4 +/-
3weeks
5->3 +/-
2weeks
5->2 +/-


National

21.43%


25.64%


4.21%


20.00%


-1.43%


19.51%


-1.92%



Labour

4.76%


2.56%


-2.20%


5.77%


1.01%


4.88%


0.12%



ACT

40.48%


35.90%


-4.58%


42.86%


2.38%


43.90%


3.42%



Greens

2.30%


7.69%


5.39%


0.00%


-2.30%


0.00%


-2.30%



Maori

9.52%


2.56%


-6.96%


2.86%


-6.66%


2.44%


-7.08%



NZF

0.00%


2.56%


2.56%


11.43%


11.43%


12.20%


12.20%



TOP

11.90%


15.38%


3.48%


14.29%


2.39%


14.63%


2.73%



Other

0.00%


0.00%


0.00%


0.00%


0.00%


0.00%


0.00%



Undecided

4.76%


5.13%


0.37%


0.00%


-4.76%


0.00%


-4.76%



Not voting

4.76%


2.56%


-2.20%


2.86%


-1.90%


1.00%


-3.76%



Voters

42


39






35






41








TOP the third strongest party after ACT and National! I can live with that :t_up:;

[winner69]

Seems that ACT guy standing in Port Waikato dying will result in a bye-election after the election is call over

And we’ll end up with 121 MPs after that bye-election

[BlackPeter]

Seems that ACT guy standing in Port Waikato dying will result in a bye-election after the election is call over

And we’ll end up with 121 MPs after that bye-election

I assume its a by-election, not a bye-elections, but nevertheless - quite funny rules.

But obviously - first my condolences to his family, it sounds like he was a good guy.

It sounds however funny to have a by election for a candidate who anyway wouldn't have made it. As a minimum they should count the electorate votes - and only have a by-election if the winner of the FPP election died.

Otherwise it appears to be an unfair advantage for whoever supplies the winning candidate in an electorate - they get two MP's instead of one. How can this be right?

[moka]

https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates/09-10-2023/how-the-voting-tally-looks-after-a-week-of-advance-voting
(https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates/09-10-2023/how-the-voting-tally-looks-after-a-week-of-advance-voting)
After a week of advance voting and less than a week left until election day, 607,255 people have cast their ballots.
82,524 people voted on Sunday.
Advance voting numbers for this election are still trailing 2020 numbers. After nine days of advance voting in 2020, 1,157,209 votes had been cast as of October 8, 2020.
The orange line shows how early voting compares with recent elections.

[Baa_Baa]

https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates/09-10-2023/how-the-voting-tally-looks-after-a-week-of-advance-voting
(https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates/09-10-2023/how-the-voting-tally-looks-after-a-week-of-advance-voting)
After a week of advance voting and less than a week left until election day, 607,255 people have cast their ballots.
82,524 people voted on Sunday.
Advance voting numbers for this election are still trailing 2020 numbers. After nine days of advance voting in 2020, 1,157,209 votes had been cast as of October 8, 2020.
The orange line shows how early voting compares with recent elections.

I wonder if it is because Labour had a landslide, first time in the history of MMP, majority win in 2020, so stands to reason a lot of people voted early. This time we're back to the uncertainty of a fine balance and possibly another king maker election (who's over that?, MMP sucks), people are less certain so not voting early, or maybe we might have the lowest election turnout, early or on the day, ever for an election as people are just over this. Still, early voting is ahead of 2017.

[Balance]

2020 early voting numbers were boosted by voters concerned that there would be more lockdowns so people voted early to get their votes in.

[Daytr]

Lots of people I know think this is the most uninspiring election they can remember. I wouldn't be surprised to see voter turnout lower than usual.
Be great to see a strong youth turnout

[justakiwi]

Yep, and you can bet your bottom dollar they won't be voting for National or Labour. If enough students, for example, turn out to vote for real change, this election could turn up a surprise or two.


Lots of people I know think this is the most uninspiring election they can remember. I wouldn't be surprised to see voter turnout lower than usual.
Be great to see a string youth turnout

[kiwical]

A good piece here on youth vote. Older poll though. August. Not surprisingly they don't really identify with any of the contenders for PM (unlike Arden) with over 54% saying they don't like any candidate for PM. According to this poll there is also a swing to the right for the youth vote. I'd agree that it seems to be a lack of interest in general. No real topic to fire up the youth. My nephew reckons he isn't going to bother voting. Parents will probably make him though. I personally think it's going to be the weakest youth vote turnout yet. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/12/youthquake-rumbles-to-a-stop-support-for-the-left-falls-among-new-zealands-young-voters

[justakiwi]

You might be surprised. A work friend was telling me last night that her daughter, who is a uni student in ChCh, is voting for TOP, and from what I could tell, it seems a number of students have become actively involved with the party. Given that Canterbury Uni is in Ilam, there is huge potential for Raf if he can engage with students in a meaningful way, which it seems he is doing.


A good piece here on youth vote. Older poll though. August. Not surprisingly they don't really identify with any of the contenders for PM (unlike Arden) with over 54% saying they don't like any candidate for PM. According to this poll there is also a swing to the right for the youth vote. I'd agree that it seems to be a lack of interest in general. No real topic to fire up the youth. My nephew reckons he isn't going to bother voting. Parents will probably make him though. I personally think it's going to be the weakest youth vote turnout yet. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/12/youthquake-rumbles-to-a-stop-support-for-the-left-falls-among-new-zealands-young-voters

[iceman]

You might be surprised. A work friend was telling me last night that her daughter, who is a uni student in ChCh, is voting for TOP, and from what I could tell, it seems a number of students have become actively involved with the party. Given that Canterbury Uni is in Ilam, there is huge potential for Raf if he can engage with students in a meaningful way, which it seems he is doing.

But probably not many of the students at Canterbury Uni are registered to vote in the Ilam electorate.

[BlackPeter]

But probably not many of the students at Canterbury Uni are registered to vote in the Ilam electorate.

You realize that the UoC campus is in Ilam - and so are all the university halls?

Actually - any student living in Ilam (and that's not just the locals, but especially most of the non local students, who live e.g. in one of the many halls or in rented flats) has to register as voter in Ilam. You need to vote where you live (for more than one month).

from the 1993 electoral act:

Qualification of electors
(1)
Subject to the provisions of this Act, every adult person is qualified to be registered as an elector of an electoral district if—
(a)
that person is—
(i)
a New Zealand citizen; or
(ii)
a permanent resident of New Zealand; and
(b)
that person has at some time resided continuously in New Zealand for a period of not less than 1 year; and
(c)
that electoral district—
(i)
is the last in which that person has continuously resided for a period equalling or exceeding 1 month; or
(ii)
where that person has never resided continuously in any one electoral district for a period equalling or exceeding 1 month, is the electoral district in which that person resides or has last resided.

While I don't know which percentage of students are enrolled at all (from memory something like 60%, but these are old numbers) and how many of them do live in Ilam - I would assume the number goes well into the thousands (of a total of 22.700 uni students in Christchurch). Might well make the difference.

[iceman]

You realize that the UoC campus is in Ilam - and so are all the university halls?

Actually - any student living in Ilam (and that's not just the locals, but especially most of the non local students, who live e.g. in one of the many halls or in rented flats) has to register as voter in Ilam. You need to vote where you live (for more than one month).

from the 1993 electoral act:


While I don't know which percentage of students are enrolled at all (from memory something like 60%, but these are old numbers) and how many of them do live in Ilam - I would assume the number goes well into the thousands (of a total of 22.700 uni students in Christchurch). Might well make the difference.

How many students do you think change and register their address in a student flat ? None of my 4 children did during their uni days nor did many of their friends as I know they were voting in their "home" electorates. But if you think the Chch uni students all registered as voters in Ilam and will vote mainly for TOP, then you can believe that. I don't.

[justakiwi]

I think it depends on where they are in their study (just starting out or almost finished), and what their plans are for when they graduate. If students intend to find a job in ChCh once they graduate, they may well consider registering for and voting in their local electorate, rather than Mum and Dad’s.

I am not saying it is a given, but I think it is very interesting to hear that at least some students are looking at alternatives to the status quo parties. We often underestimate our young people, and we should not. Even if you are right and students vote in Mum and Dad’s electorate, they can still give their party vote to TOP or whichever other minor party they choose to. So while Raf may not get their electorate vote, TOP may do.

Gotta start somewhere if we want genuine change, not just the BS “change” current parties are touting.


How many students do you think change and register their address in a student flat ? None of my 4 children did during their uni days nor did many of their friends as I know they were voting in their "home" electorates. But if you think the Chch uni students all registered as voters in Ilam and will vote mainly for TOP, then you can believe that. I don't.

[BlackPeter]

How many students do you think change and register their address in a student flat ? None of my 4 children did during their uni days nor did many of their friends as I know they were voting in their "home" electorates. But if you think the Chch uni students all registered as voters in Ilam and will vote mainly for TOP, then you can believe that. I don't.

I was just trying to provide some facts to answer your question. Sorry, if you don't like them :) .

Not sure as well I understand the tension in your post- While nobody knows whether it will work out for TOP this time to get into parliament - what are you afraid of if it works out for them?

TOP is a democratic and liberal party. No populists, no conspiracy theories, no ideological bias - and Raf Manji comes across as problem solver with common sense. No matter which camp you would like to see in government - I am sure he would improve the lot - or alternatively he would provide an outstanding opposition.

That's what matters - put good people into parliament, isn't it?

And of course - it might work out this time or it might not, but I am sure they will do this time much better than the last time (and it is not just my vote they gained since the last election). I am believing nothing - I am just saying that they do have a realistic chance. That's all.

What's wrong with that?

[Bjauck]

But probably not many of the students at Canterbury Uni are registered to vote in the Ilam electorate.
The student effect in Auckland City may have helped turn it green. Ilam definitely has more than average percent of people in the 15-25 age group, according to the 2018 census. Some may be politically aware. Younger people are probably not so wedded to a particular party.

Electorate profile.
https://www.parliament.nz/mi/mps-and-electorates/electorate-profiles/ilam-electorate-profile/

[iceman]

I was just trying to provide some facts to answer your question. Sorry, if you don't like them :) .

Not sure as well I understand the tension in your post- While nobody knows whether it will work out for TOP this time to get into parliament - what are you afraid of if it works out for them?

TOP is a democratic and liberal party. No populists, no conspiracy theories, no ideological bias - and Raf Manji comes across as problem solver with common sense. No matter which camp you would like to see in government - I am sure he would improve the lot - or alternatively he would provide an outstanding opposition.

That's what matters - put good people into parliament, isn't it?

And of course - it might work out this time or it might not, but I am sure they will do this time much better than the last time (and it is not just my vote they gained since the last election). I am believing nothing - I am just saying that they do have a realistic chance. That's all.

What's wrong with that?

That's a bit weird from you BP. First of all I didn't ask a question in the post you refer to and wanted to answer for me !! Second, there's no tension in my post at all and I am not afraid of anything to do with TOP. I just don't agree with you regarding TOP.
As you say, "what's wrong with that" ?

[justakiwi]

National and TOP neck and neck - now that's funny :laugh:

[BlackPeter]

That's a bit weird from you BP. First of all I didn't ask a question in the post you refer to and wanted to answer for me !! Second, there's no tension in my post at all and I am not afraid of anything to do with TOP. I just don't agree with you regarding TOP.
As you say, "what's wrong with that" ?


But probably not many of the students at Canterbury Uni are registered to vote in the Ilam electorate.

Fair enough - you made a statement of probability (see above) - which was wrong, and I choose to provide some facts which helped to correct this statement

... and the tension I talked about - ok - this is reading between the lines and might be wrong. All good.

And yes - nothing wrong if people don't agree with my views on TOP, this is democracy :). Remember - in any standard population are roughly 1/3rds right, 1/3rds left and 1/3rds liberal. Actually - most of that is already in our genes. There is absolutely nothing wrong if everybody gets their fair representation in parliament, actually - this is the way it should be! It only gets concerning if some groups try to suppress the representation of the other groups.

[moka]

Election unlikely to end New Zealanders' restlessness

https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Election-unlikely-to-end-New-Zealanders-restlessness
(https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Election-unlikely-to-end-New-Zealanders-restlessness)
"Both sides predict the other will have trouble piecing together a coalition to govern. Especially if New Zealand First and its mercurial leader, Winston Peters, have roles, uncertainty may prevail as parties jostle for places in the next government.
It is worth noting that uncertainty almost entirely concerns domestic economic, environmental and social policies. Differences between the main blocs on foreign policy and alliance matters are minimal; much the same can be said for immigration and trade policy.

New Zealand is facing big issues in terms of social, environmental and economic equity, which a change of government would escalate. These have largely been set aside as the main parties court centrist voters, as if the main change that counts will be that within Parliament. Whoever gets elected will quickly find out that is the easy part."

[nztx]

Election unlikely to end New Zealanders' restlessness

https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Election-unlikely-to-end-New-Zealanders-restlessness
(https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Election-unlikely-to-end-New-Zealanders-restlessness)
"Both sides predict the other will have trouble piecing together a coalition to govern. Especially if New Zealand First and its mercurial leader, Winston Peters, have roles, uncertainty may prevail as parties jostle for places in the next government.
It is worth noting that uncertainty almost entirely concerns domestic economic, environmental and social policies. Differences between the main blocs on foreign policy and alliance matters are minimal; much the same can be said for immigration and trade policy.

New Zealand is facing big issues in terms of social, environmental and economic equity, which a change of government would escalate. These have largely been set aside as the main parties court centrist voters, as if the main change that counts will be that within Parliament. Whoever gets elected will quickly find out that is the easy part."


Looks like the cat's out of the bag .. when will they wake up to another who ran away stalking around US cities spinning fuzzies ? ;)

[Panda-NZ-]

It will be somewhat interesting to see how much Freedoms NZ get on election day (Brian Tamaki's party). :)

[Blue Skies]

Thought this might be interesting comparison in view of latest Newshub-Reid poll,

Final 2020 Election result, share of vote,

Labour. 50%
National 25.6%
Greens. 7.9%
ACT. 7.6%
Māori 1.2%
NZF. 2.6%
TOP. 1.5%

[Patrick11]

Next election should include a question do you want to change the parliamentary term to four years.

[justakiwi]

Maybe. I also really want to see the 5% threshold reduced to 3%.


Next election should include a question do you want to change the parliamentary term to four years.

[Balance]

Maybe. I also really want to see the 5% threshold reduced to 3%.

And have not only the tail but the fleas on the tail wagging the dog as well?

No, thank you!

[Blue Skies]

Interested to hear some big donors to ACT unhappy the party's support crumbling just before the election. 8.8% on yesterday's Newshub-Reid poll.
For all the money donated, 4 X as much as Labour, on current polling ACT would gain 1 seat.

Here's Party donations received from start of 2021 - 23 August 2023.

National $8,206,101. NAT/ACT over $12 million
ACT. $4,236,393

Greens. $1,364,276
Labour. $1,085,563

NZF. $1,005,718
TPM. $1,005,718

National's banked 7.5 X as much as Labour from it's wealthy donors.


https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/496383/national-banks-7-point-5-times-more-in-donations-than-labour

[iceman]

Next election should include a question do you want to change the parliamentary term to four years.

Agree but leave the threshold at 5% or an electorate seat

[justakiwi]

…. Deleted……


And have not only the tail but the fleas on the tail wagging the dog as well?

No, thank you!

[Balance]

Interested to hear some big donors to ACT unhappy the party's support crumbling just before the election. 8.8% on yesterday's Newshub-Reid poll.
For all the money donated, 4 X as much as Labour, they may only get a couple of extra seats

Here's Party donations received from start of 2021 - 23 August 2023.

National $8,206,101. NAT/ACT over $12 million
ACT. $4,236,393

Greens. $1,364,276
Labour. $1,085,563

NZF. $1,005,718
TPM. $1,005,718

National's banked 7.5 X as much as Labour from it's wealthy donors.


https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/496383/national-banks-7-point-5-times-more-in-donations-than-labour

Resident Labour shill Blue Skies not mentioning the COVID media slush fund of $55m used by Ardern & Labour to buy media loyalty and publicity for Labour & its divisive & racist policies.

[Panda-NZ-]

Interested to hear some big donors to ACT unhappy the party's support crumbling just before the election. 8.8% on yesterday's Newshub-Reid poll.
For all the money donated, 4 X as much as Labour, they may only get a couple of extra seats

Poor investment.. low bang for the buck.

& On a party which will always back national so has no leverage and probably won't get a minister.

[Blue Skies]

Poor investment.. low bang for the buck.

& On a party which will always back national so has no leverage and probably won't get a minister.


Last election ACT had 10 seats.
On current polling, after over $4 million banked from wealthy donors, ACT would gain just 1 more seat, 11 seats.
$4 million spent for 1 extra seat !

[Balance]

Last election ACT had 10 seats.
On current polling, after over $4 million banked from wealthy donors, ACT would gain just 1 more seat, 11 seats.
$4 million spent for 1 extra seat !

And Labour will lose seats after using $55m of taxpayers' monies to bribe the media.

[Balance]

How the Labour Party used the $55m Taxpayer funded COVID media fund to corrupt the media & pushed its racist & divisive hidden agenda:

https://commonroomnz.com/graham-adam...ed-journalism/

Perhaps the biggest blow to the fund’s credibility was the publication of a report in March last year that expanded the criteria stated in the funding application documents. Titled the “Te Tiriti Framework for News Media”, it was commissioned by NZ on Air — at a cost of $33,350 (plus GST).

While NZ on Air advised that the “framework” was offered only as “guidance”, any media organisation hoping to tap into the fund’s millions would have been under no illusions about the stance they should take towards the Treaty.

Indeed, the report begins with a firm instruction: “Mass news media organisations need to consider, explore, build on and implement this framework in ways that show commitment to Te Tiriti o Waitangi.”

Examples of the “guidance” include:

“Māori have never ceded sovereignty to Britain or any other state.”
“…our society has a foundation of institutional racism.”
“For news media, it is not simply a matter of reporting ‘fairly’, but of constructively contributing to Te Tiriti relations and social justice.”
“Repeated references by the government to the English version [of the Treaty], in which Māori supposedly ceded sovereignty, have created systematic disinformation that protects the government’s assumption of sole parliamentary sovereignty.”

[iceman]

And Labour will lose seats after using $55m of taxpayers' monies to bribe the media.

Don't forget CTU running a media campaign that is based solely on straight out lies and misinformation. Much of it regurgitated on here. Of course the media doesn't seriously report any of it.


But where is the "Disinformation Project" https://thedisinfoproject.org/ & why don't we hear from them about these blatant lies and disinformation ?
Oh that's right, they are only there to slag of anyone that disagrees with the woke brigade

[Daytr]

And Labour will lose seats after using $55m of taxpayers' monies to bribe the media.


Don't forget CTU running a media campaign that is based solely on straight out lies and misinformation. Much of it regurgitated on here. Of course the media doesn't seriously report any of it.


But where is the "Disinformation Project" https://thedisinfoproject.org/ & why don't we hear from them about these blatant lies and disinformation ?
Oh that's right, they are only there to slag of anyone that disagrees with the woke brigade

Sounds like some people are getting nervous and resorting to highly dubious conspiracy theory nut job claims.
No wonder ACT polls so well on here.

Didn't you hear David Seymour said all the nutbars candidates have been drop kicked.

[iceman]

Sounds like some people are getting nervous and resorting to highly dubious conspiracy theory nut job claims.
No wonder ACT polls so well on here.

Didn't you hear David Seymour said all the nutbars candidates have been drop kicked.

Are you referring to what I said about the CTU ? After all they are just a division of the Labour Party which picked up the ball (of lies) from CTU and ran with it

[moka]

https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates/12-10-2023/advance-voting-latest-with-two-days-to-go
(https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates/12-10-2023/advance-voting-latest-with-two-days-to-go)
Advance voting latest with two days to go.
The latest update from the Electoral Commission records that 127,774 people cast advance votes yesterday.
That means, as of close of play Wednesday there had been a total of 970,818 advance voters. Depending on final turnout, that’s likely to be about a third of all voters.
With two days of advance voting to go in 2017, the advance vote tally was 806,380; at the same point in 2020 (after a longer advance period and with Covid in the air) it was more than 1.5 million.

[Balance]

Picked up my te Maori Parti beanie today. :p

[Getty]

Last election ACT had 10 seats.
On current polling, after over $4 million banked from wealthy donors, ACT would gain just 1 more seat, 11 seats.
$4 million spent for 1 extra seat !

If it keeps the coalition of klutzes, Labour Green Te Pati out of Government, it will be the best $4M spent in the history of mankind!

[nztx]

Picked up my te Maori Parti beanie today. :p


Did you get it personalised with your own version of Customary Rock Drawings ? ;)

[moka]

https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates/13-10-2023/advance-voting-latest-2
(https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates/13-10-2023/advance-voting-latest-2)
Advance voting continues to track a little above the levels of 2017, but down on 2020. Yesterday, 151,280 votes were cast, bringing the advance total, with one day (today) left to over a million: 1,122,098, to be precise.
It’s difficult to draw too many conclusions about what this does or doesn’t presage as far as the overall turnout is concerned. Yes, it’s half a million below the same point in 2020, but that was an unusual time: with Covid social distancing a constant worry and, accordingly, extra days and voting places, that was always going to be a tough act to follow.

[moka]

https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates/13-10-2023/election-eve-poll-points-to-closing-gap
(https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates/13-10-2023/election-eve-poll-points-to-closing-gap)
Election-eve poll points to closing gap
A Roy Morgan poll published this evening reinforces other recent surveys in showing a closing gap between right and left.
Conducted between September 4 and October 8, the poll puts National down half a point to 30.5%, with Act falling from the unlikely height of 18% in the last Roy Morgan poll to 11.5%. It’s the lowest combined result in the poll for the two parties for two years. As other polls have indicated, National would additionally require the support of NZ First, up two points to 7.5% to govern, its best Roy Morgan result since December 2017. A three-party governing deal would hold 64 seats.

Labour is up two points to 26%, with the Greens up 2.5 points to 15%. Te Pāti Māori is down a point to 3% and Top jumps 1.5 points to 3.5%. (If Raf Manji were to pull off an upset in Ilam, Top would take four seats; combined with Labour, the Greens and TPM they’d together have 59 seats.)

[moka]

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/13-10-2023/election-2023-how-were-covering-the-big-night
What about during the day on Saturday?
In 2020, we showcased all kinds of dogs exercising their democratic right to accompany you as you exercise yours and we’d be barking mad not to do it all over again. On October 14 (or before if you’re voting early), please send us your photos of dogs at voting places around the motu (no humans please) to info@thespinoff.co.nz


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The top left photo is most relevant as it's the only one that shows the fluffy tail that will wag the dog.

The one below looks very feral, so no prize for guessing which party it represents.

Third from the Top left is begging, l wonder which that represents?

[Baa_Baa]

Better stick to our day jobs, no-one will be looking to employ the Sharetrader pollsters for the next elections. Lol.
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[Ricky-bobby]

I can’t believe the greens got so many votes! I thought ACT would of least beaten them… looks like it was the city folk who voted for them?

[moka]

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/te-pati-maori-rolls-labour
(https://www.newsroom.co.nz/te-pati-maori-rolls-labour)
Te Pāti Māori president John Tamihere said the polls were proven wrong again but he said a lot of that was due to younger voters.
"I think a number of the polls have come up shy. If you look at our seats, the only seat polled and our favour was Waiariki. Takuta was 11 percentage points behind Tirikatene on those Maori TV polls. We are unsurprised because of the energy on the ground. We struggle in the over 50s, the DNA is sort of bonded. But 18 to 25s are out the gate, 25 to 35s are there and we just have to split the other cohorts."

He said this generational shift is also evident in the Pākehā voters.
"The biggest voter cohort in the country is 900,000 Pakeha over the age of 50. Their children and their grandchildren see a different society to the parents and grandparents. They aren't as deeply wanting us to all be one, and what one means is that we're gonna be like Pākehā. They have a totally different appreciation."
He said the offshore votes could still shift the results in the close seats.

[moka]

I can’t believe the greens got so many votes! I thought ACT would of least beaten them… looks like it was the city folk who voted for them?Could have been Maori too. Three new Green Maori women MPs this election. Young people vote for the Greens too. Nine MPs last time, Jan Logie & Eugenie Sage have gone.
https://www.greens.org.nz/our_people

https://www.electionresults.govt.nz/successful-candidates.html
2023 General Election - Preliminary Count
Green Party
ABEL, Steve
COLLINS, Fa'anānā Efeso - Samoan
DAVIDSON, Marama Mere-Ana - Maori
GENTER, Julie Anne
GHAHRAMAN, Golriz
LYNDON, Hūhana - Maori
MENENDEZ MARCH, Ricardo
PAUL, Tamatha - Maori
PHAM, Lan
SHAW, James
SWARBRICK, Chlöe
TANA, Darleen - Maori
TUIONO, Teanau – Maori & Cook Islands 2nd term
WILLIS, Scott

[moka]

Huge turnout at the polling booths by dogs exercising their right to be photographed.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/14-10-2023/election-2023-dogs-at-polling-booths
It’s election day, and we’re bringing you nothing but live pupdates until 7pm. We’ve been absolutely swamped with delightful dogs so if you’re wondering whether to send in yours, maybe hold off.

[winner69]

Huge turnout at the polling booths by dogs exercising their right to be photographed.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/14-10-2023/election-2023-dogs-at-polling-booths
It’s election day, and we’re bringing you nothing but live pupdates until 7pm. We’ve been absolutely swamped with delightful dogs so if you’re wondering whether to send in yours, maybe hold off.

Speedy Az didn’t go to voting both ……but he’s worried racing might get banned but pleased Labour won’t be making the decision.

[moka]

Hey Balance, looks like you and Liz Gunn are on the same page, maybe even soulmates.

"We are being ruled by a criminal cabal and at the very least, utter bullies," said Gunn at a New Zealand Loyal event held on election night, a video of which was posted on the party's Facebook page.

'Gutless Kiwis!': How Liz Gunn and Brian Tamaki reacted to election losses (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/gutless-kiwis-how-liz-gunn-and-brian-tamaki-reacted-to-election-losses/ar-AA1ie2m9?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=dea99c7b123f4fe2eb5737b4d29af0d5&ei=15)

[moka]

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/10/election-2023-the-big-winners-and-the-even-bigger-losers-of-election-night.html
Big night for our young female candidates

New Zealand's young females were the real winners of the evening, with several candidates from our major and minor parties winning seats.
Te Pāti Māori's Hana-Rāwhiti Maipi-Clarke, aged 21, became New Zealand's youngest MP in 170 years, unseating Labour's Nanaia Mahuta with more than 1000 votes.
Meanwhile, Green MP Tamatha Paul, 26, won Wellington Central, stepping up above Labour's Ibrahim Omer and National's Scott Sheeran.

With more success for the Greens, Chloe Swarbrick, 29, retained the Auckland Central electorate, making history as the first in her party to ever do so. Green MP Chloe Swarbrick was 23 when she first made it into parliament on the Green list in 2017, and up until now has remained the youngest MP.

For Labour, Arena Williams, born in 1990, roped in the success after managing to retain her Manurewa electorate.
On the other end of the political spectrum, the ACT Party's Brooke van Velden, 31, won her electorate seat in Tamaki, kicking out National MP Simon O'Connor.

[moka]

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/election-2023-live-updates-on-the-whangarei-northland-and-tai-tokerau-electorates/
(https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/election-2023-live-updates-on-the-whangarei-northland-and-tai-tokerau-electorates/)
Long-time Labour MP Dover Samuels (at the NZFirst party headquarters), anticipating the result this evening, said it spoke to New Zealanders response to the campaign waged by the two major parties, Labour and National.

”I’ve seen crap thrown around in my years of politics but I’ve never seen it like this. I think what we will see tonight is a reflection of ordinary New Zealanders who can see through all this sewage that has come out - unprecedented in my view.”

Samuels said it was the first true MMP election in which New Zealanders had turned their back on the major parties with a slew of political offerings from the minor parties.
”They (Labour and National) have to acknowledge not all New Zealanders politics are the same.”

[moka]

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/16-10-2023/election-2023-dogs-at-polling-booths
Election 2023: Dogs at polling booths.
All the (hundreds of) dog photos you sent us on election day. Thank you for sharing your dogs with us