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arco
30-04-2004, 10:24 AM
Break of recent resistance and DT line.


http://www.reefcap.com/ubb/uploads/042904.gif

arco
10-05-2005, 09:52 AM
Well that last little run north gave circa
450 pips for medium term holders with nerves of steel.

Now the current chart is creating a near picture
perfect Gartley with the final leg recently reversing
off the old uptrend line.

Of course Gartleys have the ability to continue forming further
into Butterflies, catching out early participants on the wrong foot.

However, a modest entry approach using a 1,2,3, Ross Hook, or
similar technique can often prove to be fruitful.

You can read much more about it here with descriptive charts.

http://forum.tacticaltrader.com/viewtopic.php?t=1587&postdays=0&postorder=desc&start=25

arco

arco
18-05-2005, 02:43 PM
EUR.GBP has just almost kissed the
Gann Level at 6897 the area of which
may repel the advance in the short term.

It could give a risky short against
the main trend but one would need to
see definate reversal signals on multiple
time frames.

slam
23-05-2005, 05:18 PM
Looks like this has confirmed the reversal imo
any other thoughts?

arco
23-05-2005, 05:43 PM
Yes Slam

Took a small short term swing trade
position at 6881 (currently + 15)
........fighting the main trend tho.

Possible support circa 6836 IMO

arco

arco
31-05-2005, 10:01 AM
quote:23/5 possible support circa 6836

o/n low 6835 - closed at 6838........+46

......... trailing stop

arco
31-05-2005, 09:27 PM
That was a powerful move through what
should have been a substantial Gann hurdle.

Next support levels 6775, 6744

Current position short from 6881 = + 106

Tight trailing stop.

arco
02-06-2005, 09:51 AM
Closed at 6728 which is just below
the Gann Level I mentioned yesterday.

IMO there could be some major hesitation at 6714.

Still hanging in.......+153 with tight stop.

slam
02-06-2005, 09:59 AM
I'm still in this one too arco
+136 which is nice on this pair
wouldn't be supprised if the resistance/support at 6714 gets taken out with the way things are atm.
If so, next stop 6650's[:0]

Cheers
slam

arco
07-06-2005, 10:28 AM
Low printed at 6717 which is pretty close to my
figure 6714......so care needed here.

+157 at close.

arco
08-06-2005, 12:01 PM
Action printing within the Gartley possible
reversal zone target......so therefore needs
carefully watching.

Sitting pretty +190

slam
13-06-2005, 07:25 AM
Hi All
On a daily chart, now coming to the end of the wave 5 (of an extended 1st formation), and touched on support line of channel. May correct from around here and if so, should see .6770 (ish):)
OSC may lead the way;)
Look for a double bottom off .6675
Take all this with a grain of salt until confirmation from a more reliable source:D
Cheers
Slam

arco
13-06-2005, 11:58 AM
Hi Slam

EUR.GBP plot has broken the old uptrend
line so we need to see what a test of that
may bring IMO.

Action is still printing within the Gartley possible
reversal zone target......so therefore needs carefully
watching.

Sitting pretty +195

slam
13-06-2005, 12:23 PM
Hi arco

I will look again.
do you have an updated chart you can post so I can get my head aroung it?
No probs if you don't

Cheers
Slam

slam
15-06-2005, 08:03 AM
Hi arco
good call. (again)
It is now significantly below the downward channel on the daily, and the long term upward on the weekly. Weekly is displaying a nice 5 that started in Jan so if I have this right, we should see a reversal next to a corrective a,b,c wave soon that could ultimately target .6933.
Just a matter of when it turns I guess
Make any sense to anyone?

cheers
slam

arco
15-06-2005, 09:13 AM
Morning Slam

Action is still just within the Gartley possible
reversal zone and minor Butterfly target....so there
can always be the chance of a reversal at such points.

Can't figure out your EW count [:I]...can you supply a
chart with it numbered?

Still hanging in +221

slam
15-06-2005, 09:37 AM
will give it a go[:I]
http://nzwebservice.co.nz/4xcharts/EER-GPG weekly.gif
maybe a bit simplistic
cheers slam

arco
15-06-2005, 10:17 AM
Slam

Good to see the chart, and interesting to discuss EW.

I am not a brilliant E-waver so bear with me

..... your wave 4 appears to have exceeded the
start of wave 1, so I presume you think this
could be a Diagonal with a 5th wave throw-over?
making perhaps 'C' of an ABC Flat correction?
......(correction started May 2003)

Rules of Wave Labeling

Wave 3 can never be the shortest impulse wave.
Wave 2 can never exceed the start of Wave 1.
Wave 4 can never overlap Wave 1
(i.e., cross into the same price area).

Diagonal triangles are part of ending sequences in
a wave pattern, and therefore can occur within a
wave 5 or a wave C. According to Elliott, diagonal
triangles form when market action has moved "too far,
too fast" and represent exhaustion of the trend. The
5th wave of the diagonal will frequently spike sharply
above the upper (lower) trendline of the triangle in what
Elliott called a "throw-over."

slam
15-06-2005, 10:22 AM
arco
cheers for the comments
I will have another look at it

slam

arco
15-06-2005, 10:34 AM
Slam

Here's my weekly count....see what you think.
(I could be wrong. [B)])

arco

http://forum.tacticaltrader.com/attachments/eur.gbpewweek.gif

slam
16-06-2005, 08:42 AM
cheers arco

more work to be done on the old EW, [:I]
still, keeps me thinking

slam

arco
16-06-2005, 09:47 AM
Looks very over done now and possible
Gann support at 6622

Current position short from 6881 = +236

Time to tighten the stop me thinks ;)

slam
20-06-2005, 02:15 PM
quote:Originally posted by arco


Looks very over done now and possible
Gann support at 6622
...........




And the bottom was .6628
arco 6 pips out, what's going on:D
good call

Cheers
slam

arco
20-06-2005, 02:46 PM
Hi Slam

6625 was the low on my EOD charts from Reuters -
anyway, my apologies for the slight discrepancy :D

I promise to try harder next time....[B)] LOL

slam
04-07-2005, 09:00 AM
Printed a nice 5 on the hourly chart and looks like b just completling on the corective.
Looking for a long entry after c
anyone else agree?

Cheers
Slam

Xerof
04-07-2005, 09:13 AM
Hmmm, looking at daily, I'd personally be a seller at 6800, being 61.8 retracement level of move down from 6900 area to low 66's, but with a tight stop.

Still think we have a lagging effect in sell-off in EURO.

But I don't profess to be an expert on this cross (or any others for that matter!)

slam
04-07-2005, 09:25 AM
See what you mean on the daily Xerof
The 5 I mentioned on the Hourly would be A on the Daily
The 3 would be B and if C stays in the channel .6850 would be the top.
So a long at C on Daily would be a quick one, and in Hindsight probably best to wait for the next 5 down to start

Thanks Xerof, good to have someone make you look at the bigger picture.:)
I have a habit of getting the charts down to a small time frame and forget the main objective.

Cheers
Slam

arco
04-07-2005, 11:11 AM
Major Gann at 6836. (Minor 6805).

Xerof
04-07-2005, 11:37 AM
I salute you Colonel

slam
04-07-2005, 02:15 PM
This might be what we're looking for;)
Hourly chart

http://www.nzwebservice.co.nz/4xcharts/EUR-GBP%20Hour.gif

arco
04-07-2005, 03:42 PM
Slam

The action is currently on the Gartley
symmetry target zone, so a reversal signal
is possibly on the cards near term. This
would be a natural place to take some
profits off the table if still long.

A point to remember...

Symmetrical triangles are thought of as
continuation patterns. Nine times out
of ten, the breakout will occur in the
direction of the existing trend (even
if only in the short term).

arco

slam
04-07-2005, 03:58 PM
Hi arco
agree, the break north being leg C (daily) with a target circa .6850
(not far from your gann at .6836) being the top of the channel before a break south again

Xerof
07-07-2005, 10:19 AM
Hi gang,

I don't usually trade this cross, but looks like its heading into a nice zone for selling a unit or two

Hate to bring fundamentals into it, but I did hear of very large buyside volumes at London 'fix' over the past week or two, related to an equity flow. Once this demand is completed, may fall quite quickly

Anyone have a precise entry level to target? Gann still 6836 Arco, Slam you mentioned 6850, and I threw 6800 in as a wild stab

6835 sounds like a good number to me

Xerof

miner
07-07-2005, 10:29 AM
Double top it at 6812 maybe?.

slam
07-07-2005, 10:30 AM
Hi Xerof
I went short on the top of todays 6811
Will take another if it goes to 6840 but I get the felling it won't. (just gut feeling)
cable bouncing now;)
will take another on the way down

Cheers
Slam

Xerof
07-07-2005, 10:45 AM
Thanks guys

Might just leave a flyer higher up - no dramas if not hit

arco
07-07-2005, 11:15 AM
Xerof

Gann still 6836 Arco YES

Recent high 6813.....so not far off,
and looking for possible reversal signal.

Leonardo Pisano's band of 50 stationed at 6853

There is also a small divergence on Osc.


arco

Xerof
07-07-2005, 11:41 AM
Cheers Arco

You should really treat Leonardo with the respect he deserves and address him as Mr Fibonacci[:I][:I]

miner
11-07-2005, 10:54 AM
Double top on the 9am hourly and daily?.

slam
11-07-2005, 11:11 AM
saw that one miner;)
could have another go at it though
tight stops
cheers
slam

miner
11-07-2005, 11:19 AM
Thought you would have hehe,yep may test it again,thinking about short at 903 as quick burst through 891 nailed on 903,on the daily.

15min and 5min yuck at the mo,so no direction from them,hourly 881 supp?.

slam
11-07-2005, 11:28 AM
most in a tight range so far today, so not alot of pips either way yet.
hourly support 6881:)

miner
11-07-2005, 11:35 AM
Yep mate all the one's I watch are doing the crab thing,may be worth setting a short at 903,and if goes into it too stong can always pull it,sit on hands day so far though.

miner
11-07-2005, 11:37 AM
O-yeah did that stop at even thing today,keep in mind when a messy day.

miner
13-07-2005, 07:44 PM
Strong last few hours slam.

slam
13-07-2005, 09:01 PM
EUR holding better than GBP miner
think I got your flew[xx(]

miner
13-07-2005, 09:09 PM
One of those days mate made a few pips from trade entered yesterday and just got stopped on eur/usd to the pip[xx(],which no doubt will now be the turn for tonight(Murphy)[}:)] so been breaking my rules and therefore making cr*p calls all day so might be goodnight kiwi time for me.

When you cant trade your way out of a wet paper bag:( time to call it a day,always tomorrow.

Cheers
Miner

peat
09-09-2005, 07:31 PM
Norwegians are recommending this aat .6750

arco
09-09-2005, 08:21 PM
But in their usual efficient way did they say short or long?

peat
09-09-2005, 08:26 PM
A relatively
simple model composed of the difference in interest rates (3
mth.), EUR/USD and the comparative development in the two
stock markets currently suggests that EUR/GBP is oversold.
Fair price according to this model is 68.60, which is exactly 1.5%
higher than the current spot price. Looking at technical analysis
there is also several signals pointing towards a correction
higher. The level around 67.55 should be very good support
given the fact that this exact level represents 61.8% of the move
from 66.10 to 69.90. All in all both economics and technical
analysis point to a move higher in EUR/GBP. Therefore we
have this morning established a new 100% bought tactical
position in EUR/GBP, and our target for this move up will be
the level just below 69. A close below 67.00 will tell us that this
call was premature, and we will close our position.

arco
09-09-2005, 08:39 PM
Hi Peat

Yes I closed a short off last night for 61 pips
because I felt there were a number of factors that
may indicate a reversal could be close at hand.

.......Plus of course I enjoy taking a profit :D

arco

NB. Major Gann below at 6714

arco
09-09-2005, 09:01 PM
Peat

According to my calcs based on yesterdays EOD
figures a reversal would project
to 6892-6933 with a Major Gann at 6958.

Some of these figures would change slightly if
the recent lows are taken out.

arco

arco
12-09-2005, 02:29 PM
Mentioned on the 9th Sept "Major Gann below at 6714"

6711 has just been touched so time
to dip in a tentative toe with a
tight stop

I will need to recalculate the targets
tomorrow.

arco

arco
13-09-2005, 09:41 AM
I entered yesterday at 6721 just shortly after my post
so a wee increase overnight and showing +27 at the moment.

peat
13-09-2005, 10:04 AM
never one to underpay when on the long side, :(
I am still in on this at entry of .6762

arco
16-09-2005, 10:13 AM
Major Gann holding well, and a nice long green
candle forming a 'Rising 3 Methods' derivative
- classed a bullish sign. Plus a line break on
the oscillator looks good. Also 2 Garts working
in tandem at the moment, so see how we go.

+50 with stop just below Gann.
Resistance possible 6836

peat
16-09-2005, 10:17 AM
yes it started going up after i closed out arco..... lol

peat
17-02-2006, 11:56 AM
on the larger timeframes this is definitely forming a triangle thats getting closer and closer to the apex...

peat
06-04-2006, 08:35 PM
looking at the daily theres a definite breakout on the upside of this 6 month long flag. could be massive.

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6897/eurgbpdaily060420067ze.jpg]

peat
07-04-2006, 04:39 AM
and could have a correction too heheh

peat
09-05-2006, 10:32 AM
things have certainly changed since my last post....
but am trying a long here from .6838 - will give this only 20 pips stop at this level --- 1 pip = 1.8 USD and must not forget the PPC rule. Preserve precious capital (even in demo)

peat
10-05-2006, 09:05 PM
the tight stop hasnt been hit....
the first sign now of the turn beginning to happen , a 20 pip uptick

peat
11-05-2006, 08:34 PM
nope maybe not

peat
06-11-2006, 09:19 PM
long at 92.
looking for a bounce.

arco
07-11-2006, 08:34 AM
Morning Peat

I sink you haf been reading my mind again ;)

I was checking this one out yesterday, and put it on the short
list for a possible reversal signal appearing in the near future.

It looks like the EOD may provide a Bullish Engulfing, so once I have the download from Rooters @ 11 am I will be checking all factors and considering a position.

Wish you good luck with this trade..... and you are currently in the green

regards - arco

peat
07-11-2006, 08:45 AM
if I'm going to read anyones mind yours seems like a good one heheh

from a technical perspective I think what I've seen on the daily is a descending triangle with 5 (or more) waves that hopefully has completed.

arco
07-11-2006, 09:26 AM
Hi Peat

I'm looking at it as a Falling Wedge Pattern...........

Example.


http://www.thestockbandit.com/images/Chart%20Patterns/Falling-wedge-pattern.gif


regards - arco

peat
09-11-2006, 09:21 PM
i've added at 6701
MPPP support at about 6692

peat
10-11-2006, 05:09 AM
wasnt very ambitious with my 2nd position so had a tp set at 6718 , thats done now. Am still holding the other , up 40. twas a good night then , perhaps that course didnt do me any harm, one of the phrases he used was borrowed from Tony Robbins "If you cant , you must"

peat
14-11-2006, 09:52 PM
Closed one of the three contracts I now had open on this at 6754, the original contract + 64 now. Its good to bank some tho - even with Eur Jpy taking a hit today this pair is making up for it and more :)

peat
15-11-2006, 09:59 PM
next take profit has now been hit at 6774. one contract still open.

peat
23-11-2006, 09:19 PM
long again from 6760.

peat
25-11-2006, 11:25 AM
added at 6768 and now at 6777, slow steady pips without high volatility are okay by me. i can pyramid into this

peat
27-11-2006, 10:48 AM
heh
who says no volatility !
but I can handle 25 pips easier that I can over 100 like on the AUD/NZD (which is now booming of course [8])

trend tested but not broken so far.....

peat
01-12-2006, 12:24 PM
late update just to close the matter : I was stopped and reversed at 6760 and took 20 pips at 6740 yesterday just to help . SO overall was worth playing , tho my bullish predictions havent played out.

arco
08-12-2006, 01:18 PM
Might be a possibility

I coloured the area yellow where a possible reversal south might take place. If/Once Chikou breaks through the price action, Tenkan may also cross Kijun. This could give us a Kumo surfing opportunity, and maybe more.

I am looking closely at the blue area as a long term target, but obviously this can change as short term world events unfold. (Look at that blue area as a price target not a time target).

GTA - arco

http://www.khalsaspad.com/files/12042006_eur.gbp.gif

peat
13-12-2006, 05:59 AM
strong inflation figures in the UK have assisted with £ strength taking this cross down overnite. chikou and tenkan has crossed on the 3 hourly (some time ago in fact) but only chikou has clearly crossed on the daily. price has now entered the cloud tho, and in fact has already bounced off the lower edge.

arco
13-12-2006, 07:51 AM
Morning Peat

I got taken in on that spike up @ 6776 (8 Dec) which is within the yellow marked area.

Action has been as high at +43, but currently +33 (thats eq to approx +63 pips based on a USD.EUR trade.

Action is through the cloud on all timeframes except daily.

regards - arco

peat
13-12-2006, 08:01 AM
i knew you would get a better price than me arco .... I was there watching it spike to 84 but didnt have the courage lol , but did get in at 59 when I saw a bit more downwards confirmation ....
btw your CAD call came true overnite too.... you really do drink a special kind of tea.

arco
13-12-2006, 10:47 AM
Hi Peat


quote:Peat......btw your CAD call came true overnite too.... you really do drink a special kind of tea.

Only Dilmah Extra strong......but obviously it was strong enough for 250+ pips ;)

arco

arco
13-12-2006, 12:32 PM
http://www.khalsaspad.com/files/12132006_eur.gbp.gif

arco

arco
14-12-2006, 07:28 AM
Hello All

Its always very nice to wake up and find your position has continued to move in the right direction overnight.

Currently showing +57 pips (Equivalent to +108 in EURO pip profit terms).

There is Chikou support around 6723 and I also calculated a strong Gann support/resistance point around the same area, so as the action has just broken through it may cause some testing from the south side.

regards - arco

peat
14-12-2006, 08:58 AM
you're on fire Arco
:D
and yay I finish up work tomorrow for a few weeks...

arco
15-12-2006, 12:19 PM
Hello All

We got the break and test I mentioned yesterday and the action
eventually continued lower with an EOD close printing at 6702.

Currently giving +70 pips (Equivalent to +134 in EURO pip profit terms).

I dont see any reason why the action cannot eventually go down further to test the Sept/Oct supports.

Trailing stop to protect profits.

GTA - arco

peat
16-12-2006, 09:01 AM
taken out during the volatility from data , +50 for me. perfectly happy even tho it wasnt fully maximised.

arco
16-12-2006, 02:03 PM
Hi Peat

Not bad - and also remembering thats about +95
in Euro terms.

My stop was way higher and I'm still in at +71
(or about +135 in Euro terms).

Good weekend all - arco

peat
12-01-2007, 12:11 PM
WOW on the overnight red candle
seems like arco's blue target did get hit eventually....

arco
12-01-2007, 01:57 PM
Ahhh Mr Dilmah, you've done it again.

A nice plunge into the blue box as suspected.

peat
12-01-2007, 02:12 PM
it did go back up to my entry point during the gestation phase, so that would've freaked me out a bit, but yes - very well done arco.

peat
12-01-2007, 04:14 PM
arco, what was the indicator you used at the bottom of the picture you posted on the 8/12/2006
its kind of like MACD but not exactly.... so I am curious.

arco
13-01-2007, 07:20 AM
Hi Peat

The lower pane indicator is a MacD (Dinapoli version). I have access to the MS code - let me know if you need it, (and I also think its available on MT4).

regards - arco

Bede
13-01-2007, 10:34 PM
Hi ARCO..finally made it here !
My butterfly well and truly broke at the 0.6600 level.Monthly charts suggests a potential 1:1 low at 0.6539 or a AB=CD on monthly for the current wave formation a low to 0.6510..have tried to post the monthly, daily and hourly charts but cant upload.

arco
14-01-2007, 09:05 AM
Welcome Bede
Good to see you here. :D

Re Images.
You can use Imageshack (free), or similar, to host your image and post the url using the yellow buttton 'Insert Image'.

regards - arco

peat
27-04-2007, 08:50 PM
a small time frame play here
my rationale behind shorting the Eur/Gbp at .6836 was that there was a confluence of 2 fib extns. the 161% extension of .6751 to .6804 and the 261% exension of 6774 to 6799. these both approximated 6838. theres a obvious 5 wave pattern ending there. this gives a min target of 6814 with traiing stop there for 6804 possible. stop now at b/e
yes its a small target due to the size of the original swing being only 90 pips (playing the 38% retracment of that swing)

peat
27-04-2007, 09:07 PM
as described above ....
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6485/eurgbp270420071hralargefg2.jpg

peat
28-04-2007, 06:03 AM
target .6814 was met 22 pips banked.

miner
28-04-2007, 07:52 PM
[8D]

peat
11-10-2007, 02:04 PM
bother missed this one by a smidgen.....
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6947/eurgbp15min11102007dh4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

arco
18-12-2007, 03:27 PM
Hard to say if the 5th wave is complete but when it is and at some point in the not too distant future this BF should produce 400 pips+/-

Watching in the wings.................

peat
18-12-2007, 10:20 PM
duly noted arco
in the meantime I will bank 20 from the first long in the gartley/bf thread and hold the 2nd that I got lower in pursuit of more.

Craig3215
08-01-2008, 09:40 PM
Looking a bit toppy here what do you think Arco

arco
09-01-2008, 09:20 AM
Hello Craig

Current action is in blue sky so difficult to say when exactly, but
with Euro looking strong and Cable looking weak, we should soon
see a move following the recent chart posted.

Weekly is printing an mid-candle Harami as of today. Slightly bearish
if it remains that way.

The butterfly may be about ready spread its wings.

arco

peat
10-01-2008, 06:54 AM
i didnt quite follow what you said arco in that if Eur is strong and Gbp is weak why would this cross start to turn down?
However, there is divergence on the Daily this morning, with a new high having been hit last night and yet RSI not (reaching a new high).

arco
10-01-2008, 08:06 AM
Morning Peat

Sorry for the confusion, I should have done a preview before posting.

I worded that the wrong way around.......Euro is looking weak in the short term, and with Cable potentially completing a BF in the next few days it could turn up for a spell in the near future.

I think this may only a short term positioning, but it could increase the chances of Eur.Gbp dipping in the near future to around the .7200 to test old resistance.

Eur.Gbp could then try to venture a little further north. Its into blue sky and the BF is overstretched so nothing much to go on.

No position at the moment

arco

arco
10-01-2008, 12:07 PM
Heres the short term bearish potential I was seeing yesterday re the Euro (its basically the same scenario that I mentioned on The Eur.Usd thread on 1st Jan), and the imminent BF completion on Cable.

http://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showpost.php?p=178770&postcount=555

peat
17-01-2008, 07:43 AM
the C wave gave 100

Craig3215
22-01-2008, 09:03 PM
There's a head and shoulder formation on the 2 hour chart with .7415 as the neakline waiting for a close below

peat
23-01-2008, 12:15 AM
yes thats right craig. well spotted

I'm in ,as per diagram

peat
23-01-2008, 07:07 AM
those tight stops got hit tho....:(

Craig3215
23-01-2008, 06:30 PM
yeah it never quite closed below the neckline so i've stayed away

dumbass
07-03-2008, 06:15 PM
bit of a side show before the main event (usd rally)

potential top forming , candlesticks suggestive too , butterfly printing

divergence on indicators

good short around 77.20

peat
26-02-2009, 09:26 AM
bullish gartley suggesting a buy at 86 (with a target of 92) on the daily - currently 89.45

my pic shows the 3 hourly - we've had an ab = cd down this year and now a bullish gartley buy at 87.50 and tho that only targeted 89.10 (already done) maybe the bigger pattern above (not shown) will play out.

peat
10-03-2009, 06:56 AM
huge big green candle and got to within a whisker of 92 overnite. progressively got closed out with preset take profits so I'm mostly off the table now but I'm going to hold the remainder for target of 9350 currently +280

arco
10-03-2009, 08:11 AM
Nice trading Peat (and on Loonie).

Wish I could have the patience to hang on for the longer runs.

peat
12-03-2009, 06:45 PM
I see a waning in momentum so couldnt wait any longer closed out at 9250 for +340ish

peat
18-09-2009, 06:32 PM
something big happening here? A bullish butterfly has activated . i'm in from .8930 current price .9003 target .92 and maybe .95

arco
18-09-2009, 08:51 PM
Which in turn would print a bearish BF perhaps

The end of the road.

http://i32.tinypic.com/2ql7ryp.gif

arco
19-09-2009, 08:59 AM
I decided to jump on the 'D' leg to keep you company Peat :)

http://i37.tinypic.com/4t6ffd.gif

peat
20-09-2009, 01:59 PM
the weekly ichi also shows a clear break through the cloud , although theres no actual crossover yet. currently +107 at .9037