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James108
14-08-2017, 10:58 AM
The offer is not a done deal yet, read the conditions.

Scrunch
14-08-2017, 05:29 PM
if the offer price is at $1.78 then why the SP is stagnant at $1.60?
It crept up another 10c to close at $1.70

Scrunch
14-08-2017, 05:32 PM
Also while the offer price is $1.78 OIC can declare a div of up to 7c without changing the offer price. This would have to be a near certainty so the effective price is $1.85

bullfrog
14-08-2017, 07:58 PM
Undervalued stock, a growing company at least in NZ judging by the amount of recruitment they're doing. Been topping up with longer term in mind, but this is certainly an early Christmas present, steak for tea!

peat
14-08-2017, 08:04 PM
Even the SPCA hang on to dogs for longer than they should - in the hope a nice generous person tuns up and gives it s loving home

harsh ! :p

Under Surveillance
14-08-2017, 08:47 PM
Also while the offer price is $1.78 OIC can declare a div of up to 7c without changing the offer price. This would have to be a near certainty so the effective price is $1.85
Depending on the tax positions of recipients, and whether or not the full 7c is paid and imputation credited, the effective price will be somewhat lower than 185. No brokerage to be paid, however.
I doubt there will be many holders who will hesitate before accepting. The Malaysians seem to have done a good job in getting the offer price where it is (minor compensation for Kiwi owners for the hapless overseas acquisitions and the forlorn middle Eastern squandering the Malaysians promoted).
I feel a little sorry for recent sellers, and for the bidders who sat at 99 on Friday when they could have made a killing by spending an extra cent to meet offers at 100. This seems a rare case where full secrecy has been observed by insiders.

Scrunch
14-08-2017, 09:39 PM
Depending on the tax positions of recipients, and whether or not the full 7c is paid and imputation credited, the effective price will be somewhat lower than 185. No brokerage to be paid, however.

Good point - They have a heap of imputation credits ($34.684m in the 2016 Annual report) so I'd expect any dividend declared to be fully imputed. For NZ shareholders on a 33% marginal tax rate RWT takes 7% of the stated cash value of any dividend. If they do declare a 7c fully imputed dividend it would be worth 6.5c after tax for $1.845 not $1.85 of net value.

Under Surveillance
14-08-2017, 09:53 PM
Good point - They have a heap of imputation credits ($34.684m in the 2016 Annual report) so I'd expect any dividend declared to be fully imputed. For NZ shareholders on a 33% marginal tax rate RWT takes 7% of the stated cash value of any dividend. If they do declare a 7c fully imputed dividend it would be worth 6.5c after tax for $1.845 not $1.85 of net value.

33%-28% = 5%RWT. So 6.65, and 184.65

Scrunch
14-08-2017, 10:18 PM
33%-28% = 5%RWT. So 6.65, and 184.65

My understanding was that imputation credits are attached at a rate of 0.388889 [0.28/(1-0.28)]. RWT is on the gross dividend not net div @ 5% being the difference between 28% and 33%. Assuming a 10,000 shareholding and 7c dividend it would be:
Gross dividend $972.22, Imputation CR $272.22 [$700 * 0.388889], RWT $48.61 [$972.22 * 5%]. Net div = $651.39 or with rounding 6.5c. $1.84514

tobo
27-08-2017, 06:52 PM
If the T/O proceeds, what is the likelyhood the 7c divi (discussed above) would proceed?
Is there any reason or circumstance why it might not?

percy
30-08-2017, 10:01 AM
Game on.
We are well positioned.

Scrunch
13-09-2017, 10:22 AM
Game on.
We are well positioned.

And there is now a bonus 7c dividend. 14c fully imputed with a 28 Sep record date and 6 Oct payment date. Takeover price remains $1.78 plus this div.

percy
13-09-2017, 11:01 AM
And there is now a bonus 7c dividend. 14c fully imputed with a 28 Sep record date and 6 Oct payment date. Takeover price remains $1.78 plus this div.

Whoopee do.
Total $1,92....

bullfrog
13-09-2017, 08:56 PM
Happy days, now where shall I put all that hard earned loot, decisions, decisions :)

tobo
18-09-2017, 08:38 AM
How does one accept this offer?
I have received an Acceptance Form that accepts the offer dated 30 August. No mention of the revised offer.
Would we expect a replacement form?

percy
18-09-2017, 11:55 AM
How does one accept this offer?
I have received an Acceptance Form that accepts the offer dated 30 August. No mention of the revised offer.
Would we expect a replacement form?
I doubt it.
The offer price remains the same,we are just receiving an extra,or double divie.

percy
28-09-2017, 11:41 AM
I held on to receive the fully imputed divies.
Seems everyone did the same.
Had in mind to sell today on market, had TIL come out with a positive upgrade.
That did not happen, so it looks as though it will be worth hanging onto OIC ,and accepting the $1.78 offer price.Means I will not have to pay brokerage either.
Will not do anything until mid November the offer closes on 27th November.

tobo
01-12-2017, 01:34 PM
Well, it's done, and staff already have new logo on their emails!

Scrunch
01-12-2017, 04:01 PM
There's been a particularly strange trade in them today. Someone buying 7000 shares at 180 then 181. They are in the process of compulsory acquisition at 178. Guaranteed loss. Any ideas why someone would toss away money?

stoploss
01-12-2017, 04:26 PM
Potentially someone has left an offer in there , but accepted the T/O offer.
Therefore could be left short , might have to pay a premium to get em back...