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11-02-2009, 08:17 AM
Hiow much of what this guy is saying can be believed?



11-02-2009, 07:58 PM
Amero coins excerpt from Wikipedia

In August 2007, rumors and conspiracy theories began circulating across the Internet regarding alleged United States Treasury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Treasury)-issued "amero coins".
The inspiration behind these rumors may have been the posting of images of medallions created by coin designer Daniel Carr.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero#cite_note-TACiht-0) Carr, who designed the New York (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York) and Rhode Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhode_Island) 2001 statehood quarters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statehood_quarters), sells medals and tokens of his own design on his commercial website, "Designs Computed" (also known as "DC Coin").[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero#cite_note-TACiht-0) Among his designs are a series of gold, silver and copper fantasy issues of "amero coins" ranging in denomination from one to one thousand.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero#cite_note-TACiht-0) The medallions have the legend "Union of North America" on the back with his company's logo, a stylized "DC",[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero#cite_note-18) in small type.[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero#cite_note-19) Concerning his "amero" designs, he mentions on his website:
My goal with these coins is not to endorse a Union of North America or a common "Amero" currency. I fully support the United States Constitution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution), and I would not welcome (in any form) a diminishment of its provisions. I expect that these coins will help make more people aware of the issue and the possible ramifications. I leave it up to others to decide if they are in favor of, or against a North American Union. And I encourage citizens to voice their approval or disapproval of government plans that impact them.[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero#cite_note-20)
Unauthorized postings of images taken from his website have been reposted widely across the Internet, often being used as supposed "proof" of the amero coinage. Notably, white nationalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalist) and former Internet radio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_radio) talk show (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_show) host Hal Turner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner) ran a full article on his website about the "amero coin", claiming to have arranged for a United States Government (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Government) minted "amero" to be smuggled out of the United States Department of the Treasury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_the_Treasury) by an employee of that organization.[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero#cite_note-21)
Following Turner's assertions of federal minting of ameros, a web site marketing the curio coins released a statement debunking Turner's claims of a government cover up regarding Daniel Carr's amero products.[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero#cite_note-22) The urban legend (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_legend) investigating Web site Snopes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes) also ran a further counter to Turner's claims, stating "neither the U.S. Mint nor the U.S. Treasury has a hand in creating these 'Ameros'. These coins are merely collectibles offered to the buying public by a private company in the business of manufacturing such curiosities."[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero#cite_note-Snopes-23) Hal Turner claimed that Carr's website had been created in haste in a matter of days expressly to discredit his claim about the coinage. [25] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero#cite_note-24) However, Carr's designs have been available through his website since 2005,[26] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero#cite_note-25) and according to a WHOIS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHOIS) search at Network Solutions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Solutions), the domain "dc-coin.com" was registered by Daniel Carr on 27 September 2005.[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero#cite_note-26) In October 2008, Hal Turner released a video showing an apparent 20 amero coin, with claims that shipments of the currency had been sent to China. [28] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero#cite_note-27) Yet the coin in Hal Turner's video is identical to a medallion on Daniel Carr's "dc-coin" website, listed as "UNA 2007 20 Ameros, Copper, Satin Finish". [29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero#cite_note-28)

Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero)

11-02-2009, 09:09 PM
excellent debunking arco

i watched the video but quite frankly showing me a coin doesnt prove anything even ;) if it has a D for Denver on it lol