What Sir Ron Brierley is up to these days

[steve fleming]

Now that he is retired, i thought it might be interesting to see what RB is investing in personally – as he is currently seems to be on a real buying spree.

So far, in the last couple of weeks, he has popped up as a SSH in the following:

CSE (takeover arbitrage opportunity) - 7% stake
Holder of 9,872,118 shares at 15c

India Equities Limited (Cash up shell) – 15% stake
Holder of 18 m shares at around 5.5c

These are both classic Brierley low risk corporate asset plays - and being small/micro-caps are a lot better suited to asset plays than some of the larger deals he was forced to take on, purely because of the size that BIL and then GPG had become.


Will see if he has still got it!

[drillfix]

Hi Stevo,

Mate, not sure who Sir Ron is, but is he somebody that you follow or buy if he buys?

Also, what is the code for India Equities Ltd? or is it not listed?

Last, what do you believe will happen, as in similar to those other shells that are back door plays?

Cheers~!

[axion]

India Equities = INE on the ASX

[macduffy]

Mate, not sure who Sir Ron is, but is he somebody that you follow or buy if he buys?


You're kidding, of course, drilly!

Ron B was certainly worth following about 40 or 50 years ago in the BIL heyday but unfortunately his, or at least GPG's picks havn't been doing the business in recent years. Of course, with RB's money one can afford a few extravagant punts!

[Skol]

Brierley destroyed companies. Look no further than Air NZ, the biggest corporate loss in NZ history. They got sycophants and yes men to do their dirty work.

[percy]

Hi Stevo,

Mate, not sure who Sir Ron is, but is he somebody that you follow or buy if he buys?

Also, what is the code for India Equities Ltd? or is it not listed?

Last, what do you believe will happen, as in similar to those other shells that are back door plays?

Cheers~!

Sir Ron was a brilliant analysis who brought under-valued asset rich companies. He made target companies sell under performing assets.He altered NZ and Australian sharemarkets,driving out "old" under performing directors/companies.
If companies were asleep Brierly Investments,and later IEL [Australian based] woke them up with a takeover offer.The company grew too large and floundered with the takeover of UK hotel chain Mt Charlotte.It was only quick thinking by MD Bruce Hancock who saved BIL from going bellyup.Sir Ron then brought GPG from Brrierly Investments, and set about repeating his errors by ending up the owner of "past due date' Coats treads.GPG is now in "the wreckers yard "being dismanteled.He would be worth watching/following if he is investing on his own account.Should he be looking to takeover INE as his next vehicle I would leave it well alone.He knew which people to get rid of in target companies,but employed over paid underachievers ,who put their own interests before shareholders,in both Brrierly and GPG..His choices of Bruce Judge,Russell Goward,Gary Weiss was suspect.!His fellow directors left a lot to answer to,with all over loading themselves with options at sharehoders expense.

[777]

Ron was nothing to do with BIL when they got involved with AirNZ. It was Cushing and Collins running the show then. They were able to destroy BIL as well. Clever b........s.

[drillfix]

You're kidding, of course, drilly!


Nope Macduff, not kidding as I am not natively from Aus and dont really know every glory story ...lol.

[macduffy]

Nope Macduff, not kidding as I am not natively from Aus and dont really know every glory story ...lol.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, drilly.

As percy has posted, Sir Ron, then just Ron Brierley, commenced his activities in the 1960's publishing a share tip sheet and taking positions in under-valued companies, often with valuable real estate on their books at unrealistically low valuations. NZ's original company raider/rationaliser, initially persona non gratia with the business establishment and stock exchange which wouldn't list his company for many years. Grew to be NZ's biggest company by market cap at one stage but that was then this is now!

A fascinating story if you have the time to read it but I wouldn't be following his personal investment punts these days.

[steve fleming]

but I wouldn't be following his personal investment punts these days.

So you don't think CSE at 15c and INE at 5c is good buying?

They look like reasonably astute low downside / high upside plays to me!

I don't hold either, but I will follow them to see how they go.

[macduffy]

So you don't think CSE at 15c and INE at 5c is good buying?

They look like reasonably astute low downside / high upside plays to me!

I don't hold either, but I will follow them to see how they go.

They may well turn out to be good picks and judging from recent increased turnover, particularly in CSE, it seems some are prepared to follow Sir Ron's lead. But they are only small bets in the scale of his worth and losses wouldn't be much of a concern.

I made good profits in the early years following Sir Ron's picks but that was in an entirely different investing environment.

[pluto]

I think Sir Ronald is looking for a company to take over, and use it as a tax credit base, to start another buy up campaign ? bet plenty willing to jump aboard .. what on earth did GPG achieved by getting him out and then selling shares on a compulsory basis for current price ? if u want to do this sell yourself..where is benefit to shareholder in this forced sell ? what have I missed ?

[STRAT]

Just noticed this thread thanks to Pluto.

Just skimmed through the ASX releases for CSE. Steve.

Looks like part of a script for a movie called "Wall Street 3". perhaps?:lol:

I must confess to being a bit interested :scared:

[shasta]

Just noticed this thread thanks to Pluto.

Just skimmed through the ASX releases for CSE. Steve.

Looks like part of a script for a movie called "Wall Street 3". perhaps?:lol:

I must confess to being a bit interested :scared:

CSE has sold a copper project to KZL for $16m cash & cancellation of KZL's 17.5% stake in them.

CSE has already said they will return cash back to shareholders around $15m or 14cps

http://stocknessmonster.com/news-item?S=CSE&E=ASX&N=359176

CSE last traded at 16c

[pluto]

GPG :scared: ?? that is why force sell at current value's ?

[shasta]

GPG :scared: ??

Why?

Maybe selling the projects will leaveit as a fairly clean shell, may be his intention who knows, worth watching this space though

[soulman]

Maybe there is more to CSE balance sheet than meets the eye.

Shasta, you are an accountant, maybe CSE has plenty of tax losses for Sir Ron to use.

I am only saying that since CSE made no relevation of any capital gains tax on the disposal of the copper project.

[shasta]

Maybe there is more to CSE balance sheet than meets the eye.

Shasta, you are an accountant, maybe CSE has plenty of tax losses for Sir Ron to use.

I am only saying that since CSE made no relevation of any capital gains tax on the disposal of the copper project.

Ill have a look into that, good point - they would have spent money on the project, & have no income so yeah i'd expect there to be some losses

[p0ssy]

Hmmm - let me get this right - last sale of CSE was 15.5c.
Buy these now and in 6 weeks or more get 14c refund (for the sale to Kagara Limited (“Kagara”) of CSE’s Einasleigh Project in North Queensland for a cash sum of A$16 million, plus the cancellation of the 22.6 million CSE shares held by Kagara (“the Kagara Offer”).

Comsec say there are 116m shares listed CSE so cancelling 22.6 million will increase value of existing shares (in theory).

So net outlay is going to be 1.5c and less if the SP dips any more. It will be interesting to see what the SP does after this "dividend" is paid out - could be an interesting play if you could sell quick enough.

[steve fleming]

Maybe there is more to CSE balance sheet than meets the eye.

Shasta, you are an accountant, maybe CSE has plenty of tax losses for Sir Ron to use.

I am only saying that since CSE made no relevation of any capital gains tax on the disposal of the copper project.


CSE has $18mil of capatilised exploration expenditure - so it may be that they sell the project for a capital loss.

[steve fleming]

Now that he is retired, i thought it might be interesting to see what RB is investing in personally – as he is currently seems to be on a real buying spree.

So far, in the last couple of weeks, he has popped up as a SSH in the following:


India Equities Limited (Cash up shell) – 15% stake
Holder of 18 m shares at around 5.5c


http://www.smh.com.au/business/retirement-cancelled-sir-ron-is-back-20111116-1ni2l.html

"Sir Ron Brierley is back. The 74-year old corporate raider last night finalised a deal to take a controlling stake and the chairmanship of listed investment vehicle India Equities Fund..."

[percy]

NBR,25/11/11
Sir Ron's nominee was listed as holder of 10mil units [2.3%] of ILF:.ING Real Estate Community Group.

[percy]

Hi Karen1 and KW,knew I had read it somewhere,forgot I had posted above.

[karen1]

He's popped up again - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10780052

[karen1]

Regular jack in the box:

http://http://www.sharechat.co.nz/article/88696f37/brierley-reconvenes-some-of-the-old-gang-in-a-2m-placement-for-mercantile-investment.html

[drillfix]

Regular jack in the box:

http://http://www.sharechat.co.nz/article/88696f37/brierley-reconvenes-some-of-the-old-gang-in-a-2m-placement-for-mercantile-investment.html

LOL, Jack in the box.

Karen, that link you posted is a dud unfortunately.

Its a shortened version by use of dots in the link as in ie: /....dots....theOtherPartOfLink.html

Best to right click the link and choose Copy Link Location or link in IE, right click the link and Copy Shortcut, or even just copy the address from the address bar in the browser.

Sorry for all the technicals :P

[CJ]

Regular jack in the box:

http://http://www.sharechat.co.nz/article/88696f37/brierley-reconvenes-some-of-the-old-gang-in-a-2m-placement-for-mercantile-investment.htmllink...... (http://www.sharechat.co.nz/article/88696f37/brierley-reconvenes-some-of-the-old-gang-in-a-2m-placement-for-mercantile-investment.html)

[drillfix]

link...... (http://www.sharechat.co.nz/article/88696f37/brierley-reconvenes-some-of-the-old-gang-in-a-2m-placement-for-mercantile-investment.html)

Cheers CJ.

[karen1]

Thanks CJ, and DF, ta for the lesson! My links usually work, so don't know what I did different to day. Hope all is well over there.

[Balance]

Sir Ron was a brilliant analysis who brought under-valued asset rich companies. He made target companies sell under performing assets.He altered NZ and Australian sharemarkets,driving out "old" under performing directors/companies.
If companies were asleep Brierly Investments,and later IEL [Australian based] woke them up with a takeover offer.The company grew too large and floundered with the takeover of UK hotel chain Mt Charlotte.It was only quick thinking by MD Bruce Hancock who saved BIL from going bellyup.Sir Ron then brought GPG from Brrierly Investments, and set about repeating his errors by ending up the owner of "past due date' Coats treads.GPG is now in "the wreckers yard "being dismanteled.He would be worth watching/following if he is investing on his own account.Should he be looking to takeover INE as his next vehicle I would leave it well alone.He knew which people to get rid of in target companies,but employed over paid underachievers ,who put their own interests before shareholders,in both Brrierly and GPG..His choices of Bruce Judge,Russell Goward,Gary Weiss was suspect.!His fellow directors left a lot to answer to,with all over loading themselves with options at sharehoders expense.


Best summary of the senile old fool and his follies.

[Skol]

Brierly's and Sir 'Sellout' Cushing sent Air NZ broke, the biggest corporate loss in NZ history at the time. Just want them to stay away from the aviation industry, one implosion is enough.

[percy]

Best summary of the senile old fool and his follies.

Follies?!! Can't say if it is true or not,but the story goes Sir Robert Jones got a Wellington radio station on April's fools day to announce the engagement of Sir Ron to Carmen [the local drag queen].The joke was that Bruce Judge, then Brierley Investments MD thought it was for real,ran around like a flee in a fit, and tried to hush it up, threatened to sue the radio station.Sir Ron didn't seem to care,while Sir Robert laughed his head off.

[steve fleming]

I missed this one, but Sir Ron also recently became a substantial holder in Cellnet Group - CLT

http://stocknessmonster.com/news-item?S=CLT&E=ASX&N=242052

[percy]

I missed this one, but Sir Ron also recently became a substantial holder in Cellnet Group - CLT

http://stocknessmonster.com/news-item?S=CLT&E=ASX&N=242052

With last trade at 16cents compared with Sir Ron's over 23.6cents entry price he is down over 32% which would put him 102nd in our competition.

[PLYNCH]

Cellnet has just paid a 10 cent dividend so Sir Ron may be doing OK on this one.

[ratkin]

Is Sir Ron is becoming a bit like Michael Henchard from Thomas Hardy's The The Mayor of Casterbridge ... ???

I suspect they are very similar, just like Henchard , Sir Ron appears to be taking ever riskier decisions

[soulman]

Cellnet has just paid a 10 cent dividend so Sir Ron may be doing OK on this one.

Don't forget the 9 cents they paid out in early FEB 2012 as well. How did I miss this one.

[macduffy]

From today's SMH.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/raider-brierley-takes-aim-at-murchison-20121120-29no7.html

[Joshuatree]

Sir Ron Brierley Exits GIB 1 page 199.9KB (https://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/displayAnnouncement.do?display=pdf&idsId=02185945)

Gibb River Diamonds (the ‘Company’ or 'GIB') is pleased to announce that Sir Ron Brierley and his related entities are no longer a presence on the GIB share register, following the sale of his remaining shares on-market, the last of which cleared today.This is an extremely welcome development for the Seller. The involvement of Sir Ron Brierley in the Company goes back to March 2015 when he launched a hostile takeover bid for GIB. This attempted takeover was spectacularly unsuccessful, with Sir Ron failing to purchase even a single share in GIB.
Since that failed takeover attempt, a combined total of 14,485,373 shares in GIB held by Sir Ron (through his previously ASX listed vehicle Mercantile Investment Company and related entities) have been sold on-market. The Board of the Company believes this has seriously impacted our ability to finance the Blina Diamond Project.
With the final exit of Sir Ron Brierley, the Board of GIB believe the ability for the Company to promote and finance the Blina Diamond Project is greatly enhanced.

[whatsup]

IMHO one of gods more useless individuals !!

[Dlownz]

Did someone know thing when they restarted this thread

[Dlownz]

Did someone know thing when they restarted this thread

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/118289367/reports-businessman-sir-ron-brierley-arrested-over-possession-of-child-porn?cid=app-android

[silu]

Wow what a despicable crime.

[winner69]

Wikipedia already updated

[couta1]

Wow what a despicable crime. Why child porn, I dont understand.

[winner69]

Why child porn, I dont understand.

Obviously one never really knows what 82 year old rich guys are up to these days eh

[Joshuatree]

Did someone know thing when they restarted this thread

No , came across his name when trawling through all the ASX announcements.One of my first investing lessons , losing on Brierley shares away back in the late 70's. One just wonders how long this creep has been doing this.

[whatsup]

Wow what a despicable crime.

In the mid 80's there were always rumours, but I said to myself that's B S, but now ----- . !!

[whatsup]

IMHO one of gods more useless individuals !!

and a knighthood to boot !!

[couta1]

Obviously one never really knows what 82 year old rich guys are up to these days eh You never know who full stop, remember the Athlete and Official from Wellington a few years ago(Peter Wrigley) highly respected in that community and someone I knew and traveled away with as a rep athlete over a number of years, complete shock at the time and still hard to believe.

[winner69]

Probably many pavilions, grandstands, foundations etc etc in process of being renamed as we speak

[percy]

Follies?!! Can't say if it is true or not,but the story goes Sir Robert Jones got a Wellington radio station on April's fools day to announce the engagement of Sir Ron to Carmen [the local drag queen].The joke was that Bruce Judge, then Brierley Investments MD thought it was for real,ran around like a flee in a fit, and tried to hush it up, threatened to sue the radio station.Sir Ron didn't seem to care,while Sir Robert laughed his head off.
Above posted 28-06-2012
Now we can understand Bruce Judge's concern.?

[Joshuatree]

No I wouldn't think so. Heres another one!!

Arthur Allan Thomas charged with historical sex offending (https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/405842/arthur-allan-thomas-charged-with-historical-sex-offending)

[macduffy]

Contributor "steve fleming" must have had a flash of inspiration when he named this thread in 2011!

;)

[peat]

He is raiding ass(ets)

same as always.

[Bjauck]

He is raiding ass(ets)

same as always. Has he been found guilty already?

I have no idea. A few questions which may be easily answered.
Someone dobbed him in. So - has he been in any situations where there could be an aggrieved party? Who had access to his tech? Was there any opportunity for evidence to be planted or stored there by another?

[Joshuatree]

Did i read ,he'd been pretty open with his biographer.Maybe he has a terminal tissue.

[percy]

Did i read ,he'd been pretty open with his biographer.Maybe he has a terminal tissue.

Brierley;The Man Behind the Corporate Legend,by Yvonne van Dongen was published in 1990.
Perhaps he was happy Ynonne got the sex of the underage prosititutes wrong.?

[Bjauck]

Brierley;The Man Behind the Corporate Legend,by Yvonne van Dongen was published in 1990.
Perhaps he was happy Ynonne got the sex of the underage prosititutes wrong.? They were teenage. Were they also underage?

[percy]

They were teenage, were they underage?

As it was in Thailand I doubt he bothered to check their ages.?

[Bjauck]

As it was in Thailand I doubt he bothered to check their ages.?
So you do not know if they were under-age?

[percy]

So you do not know if they were under-age?

Do you know they weren't.?
Think it through,keeping in mind what we are finding out about his sexual preference,is confirming what was already suspected,since 1990.
It is now up to the courts to judge him.

[Bjauck]

Do you know they weren't.?
Think it through,keeping in mind what we are finding out about his sexual preference,is confirming what was already suspected,since 1990.
It is now up to the courts to judge him.
You made the statement about the under-age prostitutes. I thought You had read something, which I had not.

[percy]

You made the statement about the under-age prostitutes. I thought You had read something, which I had not.

Neither of us were there.
Neither of us know their age.
Neither of us know whether they were male or female.
What we do know, he has been arrested over possession of child [not teenage] exploitation images.200,000 images,512 videos.
We also know a great number of "teenage" Thai prostitutes are "under age".
The courts will decide.
Like most I wish it was not true,but I a very sure it is.

[stoploss]

So you do not know if they were under-age?


Individuals aged 14 or younger in Thailand are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape or the equivalent local law. Thailand statutory rape law is violated when an individual has consensual sexual intercourse with a person under age 15.

[Bjauck]

"Perhaps he was happy Ynonne got the sex of the underage prosititutes wrong.?"

The prostitutes being underage was actually your supposition.

What is the relevance of the sex of the prostitutes?

[Bjauck]

Individuals aged 14 or younger in Thailand are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape or the equivalent local law. Thailand statutory rape law is violated when an individual has consensual sexual intercourse with a person under age 15.

So teenagers aged 15-19 can consent.

[stoploss]

So teenagers aged 15-19 can consent.
But it doesn't mean its legal to be a prostitute .......
Section 8 penalizes customers who engage in sexual intercourse with sex workers under the age of 15 years with a prison term of two to six years and a fine of up to 120,000 baht. For sex workers between the ages of 15 and 18 years, the prison term is one to three years, and the fine is up to 60,000 baht.

[Bjauck]

But it doesn't mean its legal to be a prostitute .......
Section 8 penalizes customers who engage in sexual intercourse with sex workers under the age of 15 years with a prison term of two to six years and a fine of up to 120,000 baht. For sex workers between the ages of 15 and 18 years, the prison term is one to three years, and the fine is up to 60,000 baht.
Thanks.
So basically he would have not committed a crime if the teenage prostitutes were aged 19....

[percy]

Thanks.
So basically he would have not committed a crime if the teenage prostitutes were aged 19....

If they were aged 19 he had no reason to travel to Thailand.Plenty in Sydney/Auckland/Wellington.
Google Prostitution in Thailand and note "Child sex tourism is a serious problem in the country"
200,000 images and 512 videos . None teenagers.!..
No wonder he was content for people to think it was teenage prostitutes.Just a smoke screen.Fake news.!l

[Bjauck]

If they were aged 19 he had no reason to travel to Thailand.Plenty in Sydney/Auckland/Wellington.
Google Prostitution in Thailand and note "Child sex tourism is a serious problem in the country"
200,000 images and 512 videos . None teenagers.!..
No wonder he was content for people to think it was teenage prostitutes.Just a smoke screen.Fake news.!l Thailand has an awful situation with which it has to grapple.

When were the current Thai laws introduced? To what period do Brierley's candid biographical admissions relate?

[couta1]

Guys like this should be surgically turned into Eunuchs as a starter, actually apply that to all convicted rapists as well.

[whatsup]

A maggot is always a maggot !!

[bottomfeeder]

I just hope he didn't have a bank account with Westpac. Another drop of 5 billion in market cap.

[Balance]

https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showthread.php?10302-Mercantile-Investments-MVT-(BIL-revisited)/page3

There are still those who still think the sun shines out of Ron's ass.

[wizAlvin]

only 30 + hours to get your 2020 picks in .... about ONE DAY

[Balance]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12307358

https://theinnersane.com/2020/02/10/multimillionaire-ron-brierley-possessed-chid-abusive-content-now-under-scanner/

One seriously sick dude.

Excerpt : "Court documents show Brierley is facing six charges relating to possession of child abuse material, including photographs, videos and written documents in the form of stories that featured children being raped. The detail of the charges alleged the photographs and video included those in which girls aged between two and 15 years of age were portrayed in sexually suggestive poses."

[winner69]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12307358

https://theinnersane.com/2020/02/10/multimillionaire-ron-brierley-possessed-chid-abusive-content-now-under-scanner/

One seriously sick dude.

Excerpt : "Court documents show Brierley is facing six charges relating to possession of child abuse material, including photographs, videos and written documents in the form of stories that featured children being raped. The detail of the charges alleged the photographs and video included those in which girls aged between two and 15 years of age were portrayed in sexually suggestive poses."

As article says One cannot judge a person by his wealth.

[Balance]

As article says One cannot judge a person by his wealth.

Not just wealth but standing in society too.

He is a 'Sir' and a patron of all manners of sports and arts.

[winner69]

Not just wealth but standing in society too.

He is a 'Sir' and a patron of all manners of sports and arts.

So true ........

[dobby41]

It will be interesting to see what the defence is.
They weren't my pictures?

[Balance]

It will be interesting to see what the defence is.
They weren't my pictures?

If you believe Lola of Lalaland, somebody could have hacked into his whole computer system (laptops, desktops, tablets and mobiles) and put in the 20,000 photos, pictures and videos of child abuse and exploitation.

Never mind the fact that the Oz police placed him under surveillance for over 6 months before they nabbed him.

[bottomfeeder]

I thought he was a smart guy. Why would he have such incriminating evidence on his devices, for anyone to see. Dumm

[dobby41]

I thought he was a smart guy. Why would he have such incriminating evidence on his devices, for anyone to see. Dumm

Why would he have such evidence full stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Crypto Crude]

I thought he was a smart guy. Why would he have such incriminating evidence on his devices, for anyone to see. Dumm

Because the sick pup wants to use it regurlary...
:cool:
.^sc

[whatsup]

Because the sick pup wants to use it regurlary...
:cool:
.^sc

MAGGOT ! Maggot MAGGOT !@

[Balance]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12354432

Additional child porn images found.

Police allege in court documents Brierley possessed photographs and videos of young girls aged between around 2 to 15 along with word documents of typed stories that spoke of the rape of children.

[Balance]

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/12/sir-ron-brierley-enters-no-plea-on-child-abuse-material-charges.html

No plea.

Negotiations taking place in the background to reduced charges & home detention?

[jonu]

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/12/sir-ron-brierley-enters-no-plea-on-child-abuse-material-charges.html

No plea.

Negotiations taking place in the background to reduced charges & home detention?

Could be a bunch of reasons around disclosure of evidence, agreed facts or the defense needing time to go through the evidence as it relates to the charges.

Could be as simple as
1. Was it his computer?

2. Who had access to it or his internet?

[whatsup]

Could be a bunch of reasons around disclosure of evidence, agreed facts or the defense needing time to go through the evidence as it relates to the charges.

Could be as simple as
1. Was it his computer?

2. Who had access to it or his internet?


Yeh, IMHO Needs time to go through the hundreds of thousands of images , MAGGOT !!

[Balance]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/sir-ron-brierleys-latest-court-hearing-delayed-as-child-abuse-image-charges-grow-to-17/4VNNMAI3OXIFGITBUHATHETH4E/

More charges laid against the fat cat breeder.

[Balance]

Sicko dirty scumbag - Sir Ron, world reknown breeder of fat cats and now, sponsor of child abuse.

‘Those eight charges carry the number of images police allege were found to 27,401.

The age of the children captured in the images ranged from 2 years through to 15 years, according to the charging documents.’

[Balance]

Could be a bunch of reasons around disclosure of evidence, agreed facts or the defense needing time to go through the evidence as it relates to the charges.

Could be as simple as
1. Was it his computer?

2. Who had access to it or his internet?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/sir-ron-brierley-pleads-guilty-to-possessing-child-sexual-abuse-material/L2UQFZ3YVHZ4KGRWPMFPUV3HS4/

Pleaded guilty - and he admits he had images of 2 years old, the sicko fat cat breeder.

[silu]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/sir-ron-brierley-pleads-guilty-to-possessing-child-sexual-abuse-material/L2UQFZ3YVHZ4KGRWPMFPUV3HS4/

Pleaded guilty - and he admits he had images of 2 years old, the sicko fat cat breeder.

What's the procedure of stripping this maggot of his knighthood?

[winner69]

Ron probably become a 501

[Balance]

Ron probably become a 501

Distinct possibility as his Pt Piper’s neighbours will not want his stench around the area once he gets out of jail, or if he manages to get home detention.

Maybe Snoopy & Lola would like him to move in with them?

[Balance]

What's the procedure of stripping this maggot of his knighthood?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/124725740/pm-calls-for-process-to-strip-sir-ron-brierley-of-his-knighthood-to-start

Cynical Cindy has started the process. If she is half smart, she will cancel his NZ citizenship as well.

[Snoopy]

Sicko dirty scumbag - Sir Ron, world reknown breeder of fat cats and now, sponsor of child abuse.

‘Those eight charges carry the number of images police allege were found to 27,401.

The age of the children captured in the images ranged from 2 years through to 15 years, according to the charging documents.’


Ron probably become a 501

Well that was a turn up for the books after months of plotting his defence!

https://www.odt.co.nz/business/sir-ron-brierley-pleads-guilty-possessing-child-sex-abuse-material

The bit that most stood out for me was this:

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My client admits he is in possession of some of the images," his lawyer told the Downing Centre Local Court, saying there was dispute over the actual number of images on Brierley's devices.

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Lacking the ability to count could be fatal for his accounting practice. Could even his membership of the New Zealand Society of Accountants be suspended?

SNOOPY

[troyvdh]

Bottomfeeder...your post actually sent chills up my spine.....were you serious.
I could go on....
have you got children...

[dobby41]

Ron probably become a 501

Maybe not - he's an Aussie citizen and would need citizenship revoked first. Easy if you are a supposed terrorist but maybe not for this.

[Balance]

One seriously sick-in-the-head dude :

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/ron-brierley-child-sex-abuse-images-case-what-brierley-told-police-about-images-revealed/V6V5HWDCJ45QIPMBQV764FJTP4/

Ron Brierley told police officers quizzing him over a cache of images of naked children he had saved to several devices that the pictures were "all perfectly okay" and he had downloaded them because he thought they "looked interesting".

[Panda-NZ-]

Lots of disgusting people in the aussie govt but they have News corporation cover it up.

Christian porter.. serious allegations by a deceased woman and provided with only two days coverage.

[nztx]

Meanwhile the Former BIL Empire has a Swipe & Attempts to Bite PWC:


https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/125617853/pwc-sued-for-15b-for-allegedly-providing-wrong-advice-to-brierley-companies

PWC sued for $1.5b for allegedly providing wrong advice to Brierley companies



Accounting business PWC is being sued for more than $1.5 billion in a New Zealand court for allegedly providing wrong advice to companies in the Brierley group, but denies liability.

A judgment by Associate Judge Kenneth Johnston at the High Court in Wellington says BIL NZ Treasury, GL Management PTE, GL and Brierley Holdings say they acted on advice received from PWC between 1998 and 2018 as to how they could use substantial historical losses.

There was no evidence of formal contract for services, but there was a letter written to the companies by PWC in relation to an original engagement dated May 28, 1998, the judge said.

BIL NZ Treasury and Brierley Holdings are New Zealand registered companies, owned by GL, which is based in Bermuda, Companies Office records show. GL Management PTE is not registered in New Zealand.



The Brierley companies said they accumulated losses of $1.58b and were seeking to recover them, the judge said.



“It was in relation to this issue, how these losses could be carried forward, that the plaintiffs say they sought advice from PWC. ”

They said PWC provided initial advice and ongoing advice in relation to this over the years, the judge said.

The companies said that during the 2019 financial year it became apparent that the advice that PWC had provided was wrong, and that as a result the opportunity to use the tax losses was lost.

They sued PWC claiming the potential value of the tax losses but PWC denied liability, the judge said.

Okay - it looks like the indirect Singaporean Owners are trying to recover some Dead Losses from the PWC Bean Counters .. ;)

If the Losses are deceased and there is nothing in way of material business surplus to have offset them against - has there really
been any real Loss for a few resident BIL Companies left here in NZ, when the rest are mostly offshore ? ;)

Could be interesting watching this spin out .. ;)

Might be some more un-Dead Losses created after this completes the cycle or a wad of the Bean Counters Ca$h
to syphon off back up to Singapore depending on how things go .. ;)

More at Link

[winner69]

Ron 14 months in jail .... 7 months non-parole

[dobby41]

Ron 14 months in jail .... 7 months non-parole

Doesn't seem a lot but he is no longer Sir and his reputation is in tatters.
He will be remembered for this rather than anything else he has done in his life.

[nztx]

So just three charges Stuck (probably just possession ones) & all the rest were withdrawn ? ;)

Did someone finally wake up that he didn't know how to operate some of the devices after all ? ;)

It may have looked beyond ridiculous for an elderly guy, stooped over, moving very slowly with aid of a cane
to be done on some of the more outlandish ones ;)

Poor b*gg*r was probably just wishing he was younger again & made the grave mistake of collecting
a vast library of unsavory stuff .. possibly not knowing how to get rid of it all .. ;)

[Balance]

So just three charges Stuck (probably just possession ones) & all the rest were withdrawn ? ;)

Did someone finally wake up that he didn't know how to operate some of the devices after all ? ;)

It may have looked beyond ridiculous for an elderly guy, stooped over, moving very slowly with aid of a cane
to be done on some of the more outlandish ones ;)

Does it sound like he did not know how to operate the devices?

‘Judge Huggett said he was stopped at an airport and had images on his devices. He told officials he thought some of the children were as young as 8 and the oldest about 20. He also had documents about a subscription service of girls.

He told them he found the images interesting, and he had looked at them the night before he was caught.

More images were found on his dining room table, on a device in a hallway table and in his bedroom at his home.

He denied there was a sexual element to them.’

The judge said there were 46,794 images in all. Some were sexualised poses, with girls as young as 4 wearing underwear and swimwear.

There was also a story about the sexual abuse of an 11-year-old.

Brierley had admitted he had a lifelong attraction to pre-pubescent girls.

A doctors’ report before the court said he had a pedophilic disorder and a hoarding disorder.

[nztx]

Does it sound like he did not know how to operate the devices?

‘Judge Huggett said he was stopped at an airport and had images on his devices. He told officials he thought some of the children were as young as 8 and the oldest about 20. He also had documents about a subscription service of girls.

He told them he found the images interesting, and he had looked at them the night before he was caught.

More images were found on his dining room table, on a device in a hallway table and in his bedroom at his home.

He denied there was a sexual element to them.’

The judge said there were 46,794 images in all. Some were sexualised poses, with girls as young as 4 wearing underwear and swimwear.

There was also a story about the sexual abuse of an 11-year-old.

Brierley had admitted he had a lifelong attraction to pre-pubescent girls.

A doctors’ report before the court said he had a pedophilic disorder and a hoarding disorder.



I know - Not defending his 'offending' at all, but probably quite a bit of Media Beat Up on this one, while the
worst of Drug Kingpins & other Criminal elements out there receive next to very little exposure despite the
damage they do to Society..

[dobby41]

I know - Not defending his 'offending' at all, but probably quite a bit of Media Beat Up on this one, while the
worst of Drug Kingpins & other Criminal elements out there receive next to very little exposure despite the
damage they do to Society..

The price you pay when you are (were) a Sir for a start.
The jury of public opinion is never based on fair or logic - a beat-up on Ron will sell more clicks than one on someone unknown.

[Balance]

The price you pay when you are (were) a Sir for a start.
The jury of public opinion is never based on fair or logic - a beat-up on Ron will sell more clicks than one on someone unknown.

What he has done is just as bad if not worse than any other criminal activity - contributing directly to the exploitation & harm of innocent children as young as 4 years old for his depraved satisfaction.

There is absolutely no excuse for his behavior - may he feel the rot in jail, the disgusting sicko.

[greater fool]

So, once he's served his jail time, does he go straight into immigration detention pending 501 deportation?

[dobby41]

So, once he's served his jail time, does he go straight into immigration detention pending 501 deportation?

I believe he has Aussie citizenship so that's probably a no.

[Bjauck]

What he has done is just as bad if not worse than any other criminal activity - contributing directly to the exploitation & harm of innocent children as young as 4 years old for his depraved satisfaction.

There is absolutely no excuse for his behavior - may he feel the rot in jail, the disgusting sicko. I wonder for how many years and how much he has paid in payments and subscriptions to these child exploitation sites. He has stoked and encouraged this abuse industry.

Dementia can affect character and cognitive functioning. If his "interest" in paedophile photos preceded his dementia, then dementia is not a reason.

[Bjauck]

I believe he has Aussie citizenship so that's probably a no. Australia has no qualms in abrogating Australian citizenship.

[dobby41]

Australia has no qualms in abrogating Australian citizenship.

While that is true most, if not all, 501's sent here only have the special visa.
I know they have some Act that allows them to strip citizenship for some things, I have no idea if it would allow it in this case.
We will have to wait and see.

[herbert240]

Ron's out!!

[fungus pudding]

Ron's out!!

Thanks for your helpful and informative post:

https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/02/13/disgraced-nz-businessman-ron-brierley-released-from-sydney-jail/

[nztx]

No 501 Free Travel once he's mended up ? ;)

Ozzie Govt must just reserve the treatment for Gang members & other rotten
worthless scum with criminal aspirations as what they deem they want gone ; )

Old wealthy walking stick bearing past offenders limping along on their last legs
may not be candidates that qualify for the treatment :)

It may be cunning old Ron's lucky day to be granted a Kangaroo exemption
not that there would be much for him left standing here either after our Govt's
recent bad habits of dumping on and wrecking almost everything in sight
at maximum speed ;)

[herbert240]

[QUOTE=fungus pudding;941432]Thanks for your helpful and informative post:

Quite alright. Actually I was hoping to spur Balance into overdrive!! Lol!

[fungus pudding]

[QUOTE=fungus pudding;941432]Thanks for your helpful and informative post:

Quite alright. Actually I was hoping to spur Balance into overdrive!! Lol!

I felt so privileged to be able to complete it for you.:D