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craic
29-11-2013, 10:16 AM
Any information that does not involve God(s), blasphemy,overly green rubbish or drunken ravings will be gratefully received - please wear a tie.

BIRMANBOY
29-11-2013, 01:51 PM
I'm afraid your rather stringent requirements have removed any chances of postings....apart from Belgarion who doesn't count.
Any information that does not involve God(s), blasphemy,overly green rubbish or drunken ravings will be gratefully received - please wear a tie.

janner
03-12-2013, 06:14 PM
Full marks to craic :-))

Full marks to BIRMANBOY :-))

craic
11-12-2013, 07:26 AM
(A) Does anybody know the man? (B) Does anyone have a precise summary of the party policy?

GTM 3442
11-12-2013, 06:35 PM
(A) Does anybody know the man? (B) Does anyone have a precise summary of the party policy?

A) No

B) Somewhat early for "policy", I should have thought.

Policy is difficult.

Policy is hard.

Policy requires thought and analysis.

Fortunately though, the website has plenty of "Values" which can be applied to plenty of "Issues".

janner
13-12-2013, 10:28 PM
A) No

B) Somewhat early for "policy", I should have thought.

Policy is difficult.

Policy is hard.

Policy requires thought and analysis.

Fortunately though, the website has plenty of "Values" which can be applied to plenty of "Issues".

Are you saying that no thought has been given to Policy ..

It is in the to hard basket !!..

If no policy... Why start a New Party ??

GTM 3442
14-12-2013, 12:37 AM
Are you saying that no thought has been given to Policy ..

It is in the to hard basket !!.. If no policy... Why start a New Party ??

Hi Janner,


A Value:
A belief that it is the responsibility of individuals to provide for themselves, their families and their dependents, while recognizing that government must respond to those who require assistance and compassion;

Leads to an Issue:
Welfare based on needs not wants and the unemployed work for the benefit

Which is addressed by a Policy:
<<insert detailed proposals on how the Issue will be addressed according to the Value>>

Working out a blueprint on how to make "...the unemployed work for the benefit." is a whole different ball game to simply asserting that they should.

So Values are the "why", Issues are the "what", and Policy is the "how".

The Conservative website is high on "why", and has a lotta "what", but no "how".

craic
23-12-2013, 03:23 PM
Received the Conservative number 8 in the mail today. Quite an impressive document in that there is no attempt to attack other political parties. there is some attempt to counter the excesses of the media and a fairly clear policy policy on referenda. Maybe they will rise in the polls before the next election.

craic
03-02-2014, 11:51 AM
Suspect that the Conservatives gained a few points from the decision by Act to pass over Boscowan. Surely they had canvassed the electorate and found that Boscowan was the known quantity? Or maybe this is just another Brownout in the Auckland political scene.

Bobcat.
03-02-2014, 01:09 PM
From the Conservative Party's website:

"During the five year police review period eight parents have been prosecuted for smacking their children. Smacking is defined by this review as a slap with the open hand on the buttock or leg that doesn’t result in any injury. These are eight parents that are now criminals, because they smacked their children."

In 2008, John Key said: "If I see good parents getting criminalised for lightly smacking their children for the purposes of discipline, I’m going to change the law if I’m in a position to do so. It’s as simple as that. It doesn’t matter if there’s a referendum or not. I want the law to work properly.”

“The law is not working properly,” says Mr Craig, “and I look forward to the Prime Minister keeping his promise, by changing the law after the election this year”

The so-called anti-smacking law is (ask any lawyer who's read it) actually more of an anti-correction law. It outlaws parents who correct their own child unless he or she is about to self-harm or break the law. It positions the State as the ultimate authority and degrades parental authority. Applying a sharp smack to the seat of learning is sometimes the best course for the child - not always but sometimes, and if the people who love the child most of all cannot be trusted to discern the difference then who can - politicians who often have dysfunctional families themselves? career bureaucrats? I for one support the Conservative Party's stance on reversing this mistake. Both parents and children deserve better.

Harvey Specter
03-02-2014, 01:20 PM
Give every left wing person thinks ACT policies are a bit loopy, and everyone under 65 thinks NZ First policies are loopy, I am sure the Conservatives can carve out a niche. A big call to get over 5% so winning (being gifted) a seat becomes important, or else people will be fearful of wasting their list vote.

Cuzzie
03-02-2014, 07:21 PM
Like Social Credit ... Act will become an interesting historical political study and not much more. Sadly, I think you could be right belg about Social Credit and unless the two ACT philosophers get their act together they might depart by the end of the year. The Conservative Party will now poll better at this election without Boscowan in the frame. ACT might of just made a fatal blow removing J.B from their ranks and there will be fall-out. Of interest, I wonder if the Conservatives will run in Epsom? I for one hope not.


I will now state that I will support the Conservative Party over ACT and they will get my nationwide party vote.

Cuzzie
03-02-2014, 08:32 PM
All good cuzzie. Please spread this view. ... ;)
Alrighty, not a problem:


The Conservative Party or The Green Party - The Conservative Party - The Green Party.

It's The Conservative Party.

You belg?:D

craic
23-02-2014, 09:44 PM
So now the Green man wants the public to pay his legal fees? Maybe some will - my donations will still be to the SPCA.

stones
24-02-2014, 07:29 AM
And the only wilderness is between Greenies ears

craic
30-06-2014, 08:45 AM
Looking good for the Conservative Party - they may not make it this time but who knows?

stones
30-06-2014, 08:58 AM
Who knows craic but I think their impact will be more noticeable this time towards the positive.

craic
07-08-2014, 03:45 PM
And now they have Garth McVicar joining the ranks. That will be a big plus for the party as Garth and the Sensible Sentencing Trust he formed are country wide. I know Garth very well as a hard working individual who will put his heart and sole into any task, physical or mental. And he takes others with him. Apart from his farm and adventure park up on the Mohaka river, he had a house moving business. When I was looking at options to put a house on the top of a very steep hill my barber suggested buying a house that was being movedto make way for a car park. "who could move that house up onto that hill?" - Garth Mc Vicar. Three days of frantic work on my part - getting him to agree, planning to cut a six metre wide track and getting my bid for the house accepted and we were in business. It took a large Kenworth moving truck that could raise the building ten feet in the air which was dragged bya huge International WW2 tank recovery vehicle ten hours just to make the few hundred yards to the site. When it finally made it the very experienced supervisor of the whole operation turned to me and asked "Who the ..........hell told you you could get a house up here"? - Garth Mc Vicar - "I ........well thought so" as he shook his head in disbelief at what he had done. Twenty years later I am still here and we have friends who will not visit because they will not drive up the track.

neopoleII
07-08-2014, 07:41 PM
question here is belg.........
do you support punishment for crime committed?
or more benefits to subdue desperate folks from committing crime?
or reeducation?

crime is committed for a reason...... generally its.......
hate, jealousy, addiction, greed, desperation.


NZ has been down both tracks of "fixing" this issue with different political party "reforms"

and neither works overly well.......

this topic will be a very big can of worms in the next generation to populate NZ, and as it is now in todays world.........
its growing into a major issue.
what is the answer to this?

INHO... it starts with family and the structure of the family and the value of the family.
also IMHO.... a family starts with two people and those two people plan a family in a way that they can support and
nurture that family.
This is something that sadly is being lost in our current society of governments supporting more and more
non family units, one parent units, "wanna be" family units and very sadly "income via babies" family units.....
and worst of all....... no responsibility to what happens to the younger family units as they grow up.

end result...... a generation of "" hate, jealousy, addiction, greed, desperation.""

I might be wrong on a national scale..... but I see this, and deal with this everyday in my current career in a regional district.

P.S.
If other posters think this is an issue and want to discuss it, I would be happy for a new thread,
as this is a pan political issue...... the smart folks on this website could express views and defiantly make a difference for our future society
on a non political level........ even though it will take a political action to make things good again.

thoughts?

Cuzzie
10-08-2014, 05:58 PM
FFS Here we go, another, "I got caught and he bashed me sir". Smack your laughing gear around this and tell me what's wrong. Burglar gets a tickle up and is now complaining. (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11306628) This is where the Cons are making waves, waves against the crimes. I've now decided to split my vote 50/50 for National and Conservative. Too right, I have a relative and a friend of my sister standing for the Cons, and both of them are Christians & I am not, but tell me where I am wrong. If the message is good, I'm good. BTW, my sisters friend was going to be the Cons Epsom candidate, but C.R got Epsom instead. Pity, wait till you see who she is & where she will be a Cons candidate. Garth McVicar will be very pleased as I am.
I know a guy that lives locale to me that caught somebody breaking into his car & when he came out and rushed the guy, he promptly got whacked over the head with a wheel brace. Half knocked out the guy got the better of the mongrel and KO him. That guy[the car owner] got sent to prison for four months because he not only stopped the car thief but in defending himself he won after getting whacked. The car thief got let off. What does that tell you. Vote left and support the suppressed? It was H.C Govt. at the time.
With his stand against weak socialist Judges, Garth McVicar makes a lot of sense. It is a tick against the very weak Left that is committed to helping criminals and a tick for the right to put these creeps away where they belong. I like that, I like that a lot. :cool::cool::cool:

fungus pudding
10-08-2014, 06:43 PM
FFS Here we go, another, "I got caught and he bashed me sir". Smack your laughing gear around this and tell me what's wrong. Burglar gets a tickle up and is now complaining. (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11306628) This is where the Cons are making waves, waves against the crimes. I've now decided to split my vote 50/50 for National and Conservative. Too right, I have a relative and a friend of my sister standing for the Cons, and both of them are Christians & I am not, but tell me where I am wrong. If the message is good, I'm good. BTW, my sisters friend was going to be the Cons Epsom candidate, but C.R got Epsom instead. Pity, wait till you see who she is & where she will be a Cons candidate. Garth McVicar will be very pleased as I am.
I know a guy that lives locale to me that caught somebody breaking into his car & when he came out and rushed the guy, he promptly got whacked over the head with a wheel brace. Half knocked out the guy got the better of the mongrel and KO him. That guy[the car owner] got sent to prison for four months because he not only stopped the car thief but in defending himself he won after getting whacked. The car thief got let off. What does that tell you. Vote left and support the suppressed? It was H.C Govt. at the time.
With his stand against weak socialist Judges, Garth McVicar makes a lot of sense. It is a tick against the very weak Left that is committed to helping criminals and a tick for the right to put these creeps away where they belong. I like that, I like that a lot. :cool::cool::cool:

They're a naïve bunch. If they do not want Labour/Greens to win, as they previously claimed, why stand anyone in Epsom? They'd look pretty silly if National wins that seat.

winner69
10-08-2014, 06:51 PM
They're a naïve bunch. If they do not want Labour/Greens to win, as they previously claimed, why stand anyone in Epsom? They'd look pretty silly if National wins that seat.

If the Lab/Green people vote for the Nat guy in Epsom the Nat guy could win. That'll piss both Nats ans Act off eh

If that happened Christine could sneak in ahead of the Nat guy as he has told his followers not to vote for him

Cuzzie
11-08-2014, 08:23 AM
ACT are history in my books and many more in Epsom will feel the same way. If C.R gets enough votes the Cons could replace ACT there. One feels that they would of been better off targeting another electorate with C.R though. David Seymour, Jamie Whyte & Richard Prebble will not make too many waves, but D.S could possibly win Epsom. Probably odds on to win in fact.

I like Garth McVicar and what he stands for. The recent murder case against the 18 year old and his younger brother who bashed to death his 15 year old team mate and got let off is why we need the Garth McVicars of this world in power. We need somebody to judge the Judges. I reckon Garth McVicar would make sure Judges stopped failing with their slap over the wrist with a wet bus ticket penalties. The bonus for National is Labour voters sent to prison would spend more time behind bars. Not to many National voters in prison, is there? Win, win.

see weed
24-08-2014, 08:23 AM
Do as the Australia govt. did. Export all crims back to their country of birth. Make prisoners work for their keep. Contract out our prisoners to China's prisons who work for their keep, which is cheaper than $100,000 per prisoner per year in NZ.

craic
24-08-2014, 08:55 AM
Australia does not export all prisoners back to their country of origin - like here and most places, they repatriate unestablished foreigners. So does NZ and most western countries. "Making" prisoners work for their keep is in contravention of the international laws to which we are signatories. Make work schemes are common but the unions dance a merry jig if there is the slightest suggestion that the "work" might be anything that should be done by paid employees so its usually pretty unproductive. The China contract is just not an option and the $100,000 per prisoner is not really an accurate assessment of anything. We have to have the prisons and dividing The overall cost by the number of inmates gives the figure but release 10 inmates and you will save $1,000,000 is nonsense. l

Cuzzie
28-08-2014, 09:20 PM
The Cons are starting to make waves as ACT are waving bye bye. I think a last minute deal by Key with Colin Craig to get Epsom voters to vote for Christine Rankin is quite on the cards. It would be a very smart deal now the Cons are riding close to the 5% threshold and who knows, Garth McVicar might very well get in. Much better talking about the likes of Garth McVicar and what he could achieve in Parliament as opposed to the lows of professional protester John Minto.
Getting back to the Cons taking over from ACT, at the end of the day the ACT party was started by failed Labour MP Roger Douglas and is now in control of an even more incapable ex Labour MP Richard Prebble, what did we expect. In saying that though, both Douglas and Prebble are 10 times the politician David Cunliffe will ever hope to be.

Cuzzie
29-08-2014, 09:09 AM
Who remembers the way Helen Clark dealt with Christine Rankin. It was the wicked witch at her worst. I think C.R has a lot to offer and hope she gets a chance to do so.

GTM 3442
31-08-2014, 05:41 PM
The anti-smacking law is to blame for youth suicide, youth prostitution and even sexually-transmitted infections, a leading Conservative party candidate claims. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10443905/Smacking-bans-suicide-link)

Doesn't seem that logical to me either ... What am I missing? ;)

Nothing. It's not that logical.

Cuzzie
01-09-2014, 10:53 AM
If the Cons get over 5% they would be a much better match than NZ First. You never know what you are going to get from power mad Peters.

see weed
02-09-2014, 12:49 PM
Go the Cons, they have one of my votes.

see weed
03-09-2014, 09:13 PM
Do you mind if I ask why?

I voted for them three years ago. Like their referendums binding, first $20,000 tax free, tougher penalties, one law for all. In the last 3 weeks I have talked to Winston Peters, Colin Craig, Barry Coats (greens), Phill Goff, Christine Rankin, Paul Davie (Conservatives) about a local issue that will effect a lot of people in our area. Paul Davie has given me the most positive result on this issue, and I am now backing the Conservative Party, and could possibly bring in a lot more votes for them. Went to Colin Craig meeting last night, it was quite refreshing, with lots of clapping and cheering. So go the Cons.:t_up:

Banksie
04-09-2014, 08:22 AM
Here's a test for you belg http://www.conservativeparty.org.nz/index.php?page=Test, to see how conservative you are.

craic
04-09-2014, 08:33 AM
I made up my mind this morning over breakfast to vote early, on Saturday For Garth McVicar in the Napier electorate and also my party vote to the Conservatives. I told my wife of my decision and she announced that she had reached the same decision. After fifty years of marriage, this is the first time she has ever told me whom she was voting for in an election. We had personal dealings with Garth years ago and he is well known locally. National hold this seat and have an improved chance with boundary changes but Labour will win this seat hands down because they have a fairly active and popular candidate and the popularity of Garth McVicar will split the right vote in two. I am more and more convinced that the Conservatives will get the 5% this time with Mc Vicar and Rankin leading the charge and a wise National Leader would hand them an electorate seat NOW and promote the incumbent up the party list. If they do this they will be back with a roar and the fat man and all the other dross at the bottom of the ladder will have to find a new park to play in.

winner69
04-09-2014, 08:45 AM
Here's a test for you belg http://www.conservativeparty.org.nz/index.php?page=Test, to see how conservative you are.

Is a score of 12 out of 15 good or bad?

craic
04-09-2014, 09:18 AM
Its exactly whatI got
Is a score of 12 out of 15 good or bad?

iceman
04-09-2014, 09:47 AM
Its exactly whatI got

And me. Not sure what it means though :confused:

couta1
04-09-2014, 09:57 AM
I got 15 out of 15 so I guess that makes me a conservative thinker :cool:

neopoleII
04-09-2014, 10:18 AM
OH MAN!!!..... I took test, and as belg said..... seriously loaded questions.
So I looked at the questions and voted on them at face value.
I got 14 of 15 yes's I voted no on the 67% threshold on the referendum............
This was the one big issue that I agreed with the conservative party with.........
But 67% of the vote is not high enough...... it too easy to get "wrong" things voted in.
I would make a referendum a compulsory vote and then at least 75%.
This way, this tool is used sparingly and needs a lot of prior input from commentators.

67% of those who feel like voting is a bit scary.........
drats........ who to vote for now?
Is Winston still a smoker? if he cut the tax, I'd vote for him.......... ;-)

craic
05-09-2014, 09:53 AM
quite an increase in paper from the Cons.through the letterbox in the last week or so. Some of it quite informative. All it needs is for Winston to be caught with his foot in his mouth to move enough votes to get them through. The chance of JK conceding a seat looks remote with the latest polls

see weed
15-09-2014, 04:09 PM
Don't be surprised if you see the Cons. get over 5% and into to parli. next sat. Have been to a few of their meetings recently and all have been full and lively. Delivered lots of flyers for them last week, must have walked at least 25 to 30 kms around about 30 blocks. Good exercise.

blackcap
15-09-2014, 04:15 PM
Don't be surprised if you see the Cons. get over 5% and into to parli. next sat. Have been to a few of their meetings recently and all have been full and lively. Delivered lots of flyers for them last week, must have walked at least 25 to 30 kms around about 30 blocks. Good exercise.
Good on you see weed... I am not a natural cons voter but have voted for them this election because I just hope they can give JK and National the partnership they need. A Nats/Winston coalition just fills me with dread.

craic
15-09-2014, 04:20 PM
In Napier, Labour are leading National by 6 points in one unofficial poll but Garth Mc Vicar came in at 22% so, as expected, Labour will get this seat but Garth McVicar has a good future in politics here. Labour has run the whole show on two policies over a couple of years and they are unlikely to deliver either. "No to Amalgamation" has been up on every corner since the last election in bright red with a Labour logo. Rebuild the Gisborne/Napier rail link has now been added. And that won't happen 'till hell freezes over.

JBmurc
15-09-2014, 05:32 PM
Good on you see weed... I am not a natural cons voter but have voted for them this election because I just hope they can give JK and National the partnership they need. A Nats/Winston coalition just fills me with dread.

I agree ...and I'm sure there is many kiwi's doing the same

see weed
15-09-2014, 10:46 PM
Thanks See Weed.

I'd be okay with:
- binding referendums,
- first $20,000 tax free,
- one law for all - Would that include more free/subsidised legal representation?

No so keen on:
- tougher penalties - its most often a soundbite and when each case is thoughly understood, Judges generally do okay. And I think we have enough people in the prison systems. But if "tougher penalties" were to include more dug & behaviour counselling, enforced job training, forced removal of impressionable individuals from environments that are likely to lead to poor outcomes, etc. then maybe. Got a link to what the Conservatives define "tougher penalties" as ?

Do away with parole. 10 years means 10 years, no less. I talked to Colin Craig last week and told him to go and watch Nigel latta's last doco on crims. at Spring Hill Prison where they have a high security and a medium security wing, then in their last few years of prison they are put into an open plan type units where they live in a flatmate type situation , do their own budgeting shoping and cooking to get them used to after prison life. Another Cons policy is to have prisoners working just like we do, 8 hours a day. With a small wage. I think Spring Hill is a good example of things to come. If you want to know more go to a Cons. meeting or email CC on his questions site on their web page.

couta1
16-09-2014, 07:11 AM
My wife and I are voting conservative also because we don't want to see Winston playing any more games and flattering his own ego and we like most of their policies.

see weed
16-09-2014, 07:56 PM
Just got an email from the Cons. party saying that one of the polls has them on 6%.

craic
16-09-2014, 08:46 PM
My gut feeling is closer to 7 to 8 % on the night. Mind you I have had two or thee rums and I am now sipping on some Glenfiddish
Just got an email from the Cons. party saying that one of the polls has them on 6%.

see weed
16-09-2014, 09:17 PM
My gut feeling is closer to 7 to 8 % on the night. Mind you I have had two or thee rums and I am now sipping on some Glenfiddish

A mate of mine was a barman back in the 80's and he used to practice his cocktails on me and whiskies, and Glenfiddics etc and I thought yeah, here's a mate for life. It would be good if Cons. get 7 or 8%. But I will be content with 5 or more. I would'nt mind a Kahlua ice and a bit of a2.

nextbigthing
16-09-2014, 09:30 PM
So it very much looks like Conservatives are going to do it. So what do National do, go with them and put the nail in Winnies coffin?

stones
17-09-2014, 07:50 AM
So it very much looks like Conservatives are going to do it. So what do National do, go with them and put the nail in Winnies coffin?

Of Course!!!

winner69
18-09-2014, 09:49 AM
So the PR lady having a day off

She grumpy as apparently

Oh well that's 4% odd of wasted votes

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11326951

minimoke
21-09-2014, 09:56 AM
So United Future scored 0.2% of the vote (less than the Legalise Cannabis Party and the same as Ban1080), ACT 0.7 and Maori 1.3% for a total of 2.2% of the vote and 4 seats. Contrast with Conservatives 4.2%

So what will National do next Election. My pick is that Peter Dunne will retire forcing National to look for alternatives. ACT will stay as it suits National to have an "extreme" right partner but they still may need more seats. I reckon Conservatives will moderate their "Christian" appeal, broaden theri economic policy and National will gift them a seat.

National will continue to support Maaori (Given Labour said "No Deal" this time around) to retain a seat or two. Ron Mark will take over NZ First and be a softer alternative who can work with National.

National will see a fourth term as a genuinely viable opportunity and will start stitching deals to ensure that happens so look for more action from the Conservatives.

nextbigthing
21-09-2014, 10:22 AM
While that last statement is kind of true, perhaps Hone got what he deserved as the people he represents didn't want him in bed with a millionaire German fraudster

jonu
21-09-2014, 10:55 AM
An "electric seat deal" Snapiti? I thought you had to be on death row to get one of those.

minimoke
21-09-2014, 11:00 AM
While that last statement is kind of true, perhaps Hone got what he deserved as the people he represents didn't want him in bed with a millionaire German fraudster
You are probably right. I'm thinking there might even be a god since some of us didn't want him getting into bed with Laila Harre and god forbid Annette Sykes and John Minto. I can see why Trevor Mallard is keen on using DNA technology to resurrect Moa cos it seems some parties have got nothing else to fall back on than some old dinosaurs relics form bygone era's.

cyclist
21-09-2014, 01:09 PM
So United Future scored 0.2% of the vote (less than the Legalise Cannabis Party and the same as Ban1080), ACT 0.7 and Maori 1.3% for a total of 2.2% of the vote and 4 seats. Contrast with Conservatives 4.2%

Although I didn't vote for the conservatives this time round, I do believe they have something to offer, and it really does show that 5% is too big a hurdle for any fledgling party to meet. A young party will make mistakes, putting some potential voters off. It is not until they are in parliament that they truly get the opportunity to learn and improve.

That aside, overall very happy with the outcome.

Jay
21-09-2014, 09:26 PM
My take on it is the conservatives could take a fair chunk of NZ first vote next time round as I think WP will retire at the end of this term and will depend on who takes over the reins as to whether they (NZ1st) keep traction.
Actually I think WP would have to surrender the leadership well beforehand if he is to retire in 3 years.
They seem to fall away after elections, then rise again from memory, especially as they have no power as such
Agree National may drop ACT next time with 0.07 of the vote, they are never going to get more than the 1 seat. I think they have had their day, what there was of it!

Agree that with 4.1% of the vote and No MP's does not quite seem fair when a total 2.2% gets 4 seats. Always said the coat tails side of MMP should be changed, along with if you leave the party/thrown out, for whatever reason, you are out and the next list MP of that party comes in.

nextbigthing
21-09-2014, 09:40 PM
My take on it is the conservatives could take a fair chunk of NZ first vote next time round as I think WP will retire at the end of this term and will depend on who takes over the reins as to whether they (NZ1st) keep traction.
Actually I think WP would have to surrender the leadership well beforehand if he is to retire in 3 years.
They seem to fall away after elections, then rise again from memory, especially as they have no power as such
Agree National may drop ACT next time with 0.07 of the vote, they are never going to get more than the 1 seat. I think they have had their day, what there was of it!

Agree that with 4.1% of the vote and No MP's does not quite seem fair when a total 2.2% gets 4 seats. Always said the coat tails side of MMP should be changed, along with if you leave the party/thrown out, for whatever reason, you are out and the next list MP of that party comes in.

ACT will pickup when National finally start faltering and the left gain more traction as center right voters look to pull it back to the right again.

Ron Mark seems to be the name bantered around to replace Winnie the pooh. He is a very competent and likeable guy however whether he will be able to wow 9% of punters like Winnie can will have to remain to be seen.